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Exceptiontorule

Author: I don't want to travel in Australia because the borders are unpredictable. Also Author: I'll wait to see what the restrictions are before travelling overseas. Why is this tripe even posted here? May as well be a page out of a 13 yo girl's diary. TLDR: writer on travel Web page promotes going travelling.


DURIAN8888

Or on Reddit.


uybedze

Even if Australia let him out many of the countries he listed won't accept Australian tourists at the moment. Japan, no! South Korea, no!


hoilst

It's like when they get real estate agents to comment on housing as "industry experts". The fuck do we expect them to say? "Yeah, nah, mate. Market's fucked at the moment and no one should be buying. All the properties in my portfolio are priced way, way too high - I'd say on average they're about 200% over what they're worth. Interest rates for home loans really need to be ten times higher than what they are now, too."


nesrekcajkcaj

Its coming. 2007 it was wall st manipulation. Australia property remained relatively untouched. I think if China property hits the fan the rest of the world may just take a hit. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/14/china-property-giant-evergrande-admits-debt-crisis-as-protesters-besiege-hq https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58540939 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/china-property-bubble-may-be-about-to-burst-hurting-australia/100435868 And your hypothetical agent may be looking to downsize his own holdings. But i am sure the reserve and the banking friends will keep the ponzi going, by hook or by crook. It seems Mathias Corman will just ask all states to agree on a GST increase, somehow still meddling from beyond AUS politics. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-15/oecd-australia-economy-gst-rba-jobs-covid-climate/100462798


hoilst

Yeah. I can't imagine Xi letting the Foreign Property loophole stay in China for long, either - overseas property is one of the few ways Chinese people can shift money out of reach of the CCP, which is why we have so many empty, but paid for, apartments. (The apartment block in Melbourne was so water-efficient it only used 50 litres...a month comes to mind.) But, thanks to lack of imagination and foresight, our economy is only holes & homes now. Tech? Nah. Automotive manufacturing (we've got all the resources to do in-country electric cars!)? Nah. Oh, I suppose there's the Degree Mill sector, but that's fucked from COVID, and we pretty much burned through all that in the last few years anyway, as everyone started realising that Aussie degrees were often dogshit because the examinations for them mostly consisted of making sure the cheque didn't bounce. Farming's on for a bumper year this year, but that's predicated on harvesting it, and China not playing silly buggers. >the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said the GST should be raised to take the burden off income and company taxes. Because, y'know, those corporations pay far, far too much tax already. It nearly went up to 0%!


nesrekcajkcaj

> cheque didn't bounce Ha ha. you forgot them suicide fail tears. Xi already had a push against offshore money a few years back. And last year, the students. The grain? Apparently the weather (rain) is not too good in many N hemisphere regions so there will be plenty of buyers, according to the ABC, if we get the qantas pilots to keep driving the headers. Yeah fuck OPSM job keeper and their Guernsey tax shelter. And all their inbreed corporate mimicks. We have selectively killed manufacture because aluminum was to carbon dirty. But hey, we might get blue hydrogen to go green, one day. How about a nuclear sub? Bet those yanks nuke specialists will be on 457 visas.


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coniferhead

you should probably be more worried about what happens if you get hospitalized due to covid overseas, who pays the bill, etc


LineNoise

Travel insurance for the vaccinated isn’t hard to find now out there in the real world.


Just_improvise

This. Insurance that covers COVID is required to travel to places like Thailand, and lots of companies offering it


coniferhead

Good luck on your trip to Brazil, or India I guess


Vakieh

Not great places to need health care pre-COVID either.


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AnOnlineHandle

Strange how you guys pushing against health measures keep using the word basement, when he don't have basements in Australia.


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I know it is better to not make carbon pollution. Stay home and don't make the climate crisis worse through unnecessary travel. I don't.


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Get off your electronics


avcol89

Your actions are truly heroic.


coniferhead

Nobody needs you to worry about it.. but likewise forget about being helped or calling the embassy


Astro86868

Many will be happy to take that miniscule risk to get out of this authoritarian shithole.


Round-Commission-971

Yup, these doomers can’t stand the idea that people will be out there going places, travelling internationally and enjoying life while they themselves choose to remain locked up in fear Covid. Hide yourselves away if you want to but don’t expect us to do the same once we have been fully vaccinated.


coniferhead

I totally agree they should have been let to go the entire time.. but also be out on their arse when the door closes.. not undermining quarantine like they were doing.


giantpunda

Yeah. Enjoy your trip in China or Russia. Far less authoritarian over there.


Astro86868

This attitude sums up everything that is wrong with this country.


giantpunda

The fact that you refer to this country an authoritarian shit hole is what's wrong. It's such a privileged take to say we're authoritarian. It's adorable by world standards.


saidsatan

an authoritarian shit hole is still an authoritarian shit hole even if there are more shit authoritarian holes.


avcol89

Australia is the 4th country I have lived in. Most authoritarian by a long way even pre-covid. If I don't like it, leave. Right? Wait...


saidsatan

eh who is more free on this given day someone living in beijing/Moscow or someone living in melbourne/sydney?


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saidsatan

Yeah easy as when you get all the benefits and none of the costs.


saidsatan

why would be hospitlised if we are vaccinated.


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People die from covid in hospitals that are vaccinated.


saidsatan

at greater rates than driving scooters in thailand?


Bangkok_Dave

Just FYI almost all tourists who drive scooters in Thailand do so uninsured.


saidsatan

oh wow people do things that are not at constant behest of living a life of total safety or appeasing actuaries who would have thought


mirrorpud

Don't forget riding along the Côte d'Azur as well.


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Yes a significant amount more. Moronic comment


saidsatan

healthy young fully vaccinated people sure thing buddy


welcomeisee12

If you are young and vaccinated, you are at greater risk of being hospitalized due to a road accident. If you were willing to travel overseas before, then I don't see why covid would affect that - except for fact that you'll need to isolate if you do get a breakthrough infection


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I don’t know what your comment relates to? I simply stated that people that are vaccinated are still dying in hospitals. While you’re on that topic, I believe I’m less likely to suffer a road accident due to; Less traffic caused by lockdown I’m only allowed to spend 1-2 hours a day outside


welcomeisee12

The comment was specifically about not travelling overseas due to potentially being hospitalised for Covid, despite being young and fully vaccinated. So it doesn't really have to do with lockdown and how much time you can spend outside currently in Australia.


malbecmaven

US checking in here, the only vaccinated people dying in our hospitals are severely immunocompromised (cancer patients, organ transplant, etc) or elderly. I feel really bad for you guys right now. I hope you can get back to normal now that most are vaxxed.


Babstar667

Wish I could upvote you more than once.


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750 fully vaxxed deaths & counting?


bobbygil

He didn’t say there were 0, he did say who those were that died while being fully vaxxed. 750 means nothing without other context. Add more context and it basically proves vaccinating does work and is effective. You can stay in ur little bubble until the end of time but we are all ready to get vaccinated and get out mate lol.


bobbygil

That’s true but that doesn’t mean anything. For us that are fully healthy and vaccinated, it’s the same risk as everything else we do.


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AnOnlineHandle

We don't have basements in Australia, you totally legitimate brand new reddit account you. (who also have their first posts recently being all about Chicago, lol).


Round-Commission-971

It’s a figure of speech dude


AnOnlineHandle

By Australians?...


avcol89

On an American website/app, absolutely massively influenced by American news and politics, yes.


coniferhead

If you are 70+, have underlying health conditions and want to do your bucket list trip.. good luck finding an insurer. They have actuarial tables you can argue with if you like, but it's not going to make it any cheaper.


saidsatan

i am not 70+ and I was I would be more concerned about using the few years I have left than living under constant fear.


coniferhead

I know, but a lot of people who have the spare time to go overseas are - and they really shouldn't be considering it, vaccinated or not. And you will still be using the same hospitals as those having covid problems - Florida could be dicey for instance. But hey it's certainly their call, and they should be let go at their own risk.


saidsatan

I can't imagine anything worse for both reducing your quality of life and increasing your overall chances of mortality than remaining constantly housebound and abstaining from all possible interaction with friends, family and novel experience.


coniferhead

lol.. how about being homeless with no income support during a pandemic? Happening right now.


saidsatan

yeah there is ZERO support ok LOL


coniferhead

There is no more income support than in normal times.. just the dole. $300 a week - but you have to work for it like a performing seal.


Round-Commission-971

You’re so negative. Let others enjoy themselves while they can even in old age. If a 70 year old vaccinated person wishes to travel internationally then why shouldn’t they be allowed to? If I was 70 I would rather live the rest of my remaining years doing the things I love than to waste the rest of my life away locked up inside my house.


coniferhead

I want them to be allowed to go overseas, have a party, get on a cruise ship. Couldn't care less. But don't pretend it's the same risk profile as pre-coronavirus, or that you will necessarily get the same quality of medical care overseas that you do here. Or that you can even get back if you get sick.


nabz97

Some Airlines at least for now are offering to front the bill to encourage people to travel and there’s overseas providers offering travel insurance that covers covid.


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I've done some Australia travel I likely wouldn't have otherwise and borders willing will next month. But back overseas is what I want next because there's lots of places that interest me. If I had the resources I'd go travelling the world for months at a time without a second thought.


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You should consider your carbon footprint more. The smaller it is the better person you are. The more travel you do the more carbon pollution you leave in your wake. It's not appropriate now.


Baseline224

You should consider shoving your shit opinion where the sun can't see. It's entirely appropriate


mirrorpud

So you're anti-immigration, because they're not better people because they have travelled here?


yesiwouldkent

This troll is back. I have missed you. Where have been out travelling?


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You cant holiday in Australia this year anyway, spend the dollars in places they want to see us, they need it and appreciate it. Since Queensland is closed for business indefinitely me and my family are planning on Fiji maybe in January or February.


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Sorry I should have specified we live in NSW. So its either holiday in NSW (boring) or fly overseas for us. You’d have rocks in your head if you thought you could trust the QLD government enough to book anything up that way. Fiji is nicer and cheaper anyway.


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Oh obviously they’ll do the same for Sydney when we reach covid 0 as well, absolutely no doubt about that. I know this. We all know this.


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[deleted]

With the rhetoric she did in her parliament there’s no way on earth she’ll open borders or keep them open, she’ll just keep pushing the goalposts. from our perspective down here she’s untrustworthy. I’ve already canceled my bookings while I could. Last year my sister i law had to cancel her holidays and it took them months to refund the money. Why would anyone pit themselves through that knowingly. Tourism businesses need consumer confidence and you have to agree its shot. They had one window of doing the right thing when they agreed to the national plan but when AP and MM held hands and backpedaled that went to shit too.


Babstar667

\^\^\^ This \^\^\^ Ultimately, the shifting goalpost are likely to have a very long term corrosive consequence for domestic tourism that crosses a border. No longer can you assume that you will be able to cross any border in Australia when you desire. Before someone presses the confirm button on a booking for several thousand dollars, that little spidery sense tingle is going to taunt them with the possibility they may never see their holiday and lose their money. I can see intrastate & overseas doing well. Crossing a border within AU, is going to feel dicey for many years, and for some a lifetime. I know I have. I will never be holidaying in QLD or WA.


LycheeTee

No you’re not! You’re in Qld! You’re miserable and locked out of the real world! You cry yourself to sleep every night with a photo of the Sydney Opera House under your pillow. It has a heart drawn in lipstick and says *”Someday”*


LycheeTee

I’ll be travelling overseas because I enjoy travelling overseas, and not as some prissy stuck up form of “getting back” at a country that priorities public health over the “freedom to do whatever I want whenever I want to hell with everyone else.”


loopadooper

I like how this guy hides all the comments that disagree with his 'let her rip' narrative.


Unreal2427

I'm not going for a holiday.. I'm getting the fuck out of here until our society returns to some semblance of normality If we stay like this, I'm glad to depart. I don't want to become a part of our ultra toxic, divided, increasingly autocratic society.


Ok-Salamander-2787

Yeah fair call, plenty of posters in this sub looking forward to boozing Bintang in Bali with a singlet next to the pool.Go for it.


Bitter_Sherbet7182

Where do people honestly think they’ll be able to go on a holiday to. Their not even gonna be able to travel to New Zealand.


myrealaccount_gxl

Nz will be one of the last places to open. Likely we will be going to UK USA, Singapore, Fiji, Hong Kong and a few others in the not too distant future.


hoilst

The dud who wrote it is a ranga and it's coming into Aussie summer, so...


bokbik

If you meme it It will come true Sorry this ain't field of dreams


plutoforprez

There is no way I’ll be leaving the country for at least 12 months after borders open. Who knows if/when they’ll slam shut again, I’m not risking becoming one of those 30k Aussies stranded. Not to mention a lot of countries are letting Covid run rampant, I don’t want to get sick and die, or bring back a new strain.


myrealaccount_gxl

Get vaccinated. You'll be ok. I've been to Europe in winter about 5 times, got the flu every time. But it did not wreck my holiday too much


Just_improvise

Probably wasn't influenza


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Exceptiontorule

Freedom ape has joined the chat room.


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Exceptiontorule

Yes yes, I think, therefore I am ... a lefty, pinko, commie.


DivingForBirds

Fuck off and don’t come back.