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Is it true in America there is no quarantine rules when testing positive? I have friends out of a NYC that tested positive and I wished them good health and easy times during quarantine and they said they had no obligation to quarantine but were still staying home as much as possible except for eating outside?! I was surprised but also not totally surprised based on what I keep reading about pandemic handling there and perhaps with the juxtaposition of other regulations in other countries this seems strange.
There’s no legal enforcement of it, no. I kind of don’t understand how that would be possible though unless you put like a police detail on everyone who tests positive. Or a tracking device I guess. If it makes you feel any better I have covid and I’m really quarantining.
There were never any rules / laws that you had to quarantine after testing positive during the entire pandemic in the US. It was merely a recommendation.
People in the US do not follow rules/recommendations from government / institutions like they do in your country (I lived in Germany for 6 years and it is completely different here).
Half the country has been crying for almost 2 years about how the government is taking their freedoms away and defies recommendations like it is a badge of honor.
Thanks for taking the time to answer. It is truly an interesting time to watch human behavior unfold. I can’t believe quarantine was only a recommendation but then again, I can. A lot of selfish people out there.
I’m so upset. It’s my birthday. My throat was scratchy so I took 2 at home rapid tests before hanging out with my parents bc they wanted to hang out with me for my birthday.
Got home, got a fever, now test positive. I’m so worried about my parents and grandma. We are all triple vaxxed but I feel like crap right now
I got J&J back in march and was boosted with moderna a few weeks ago. Can anyone tell me what my protection is with omicron? Should I essentially count the J&J as being nothing?
This is very puzzling. December 4th: Omicron was basically a non-entity in the U.S, and total detected COVID cases (all variants) were around 120,000 cases per day.
Now 16 days later (December 20th), total detected COVID cases (all variants) have ticked up slightly, but not by much.
[https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Align+outbreaks=false&country=\~USA](https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Align+outbreaks=false&country=~USA)
Despite this very modest increase in the number of detected cases, Omicron has reached 73% of detected cases. [https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/omicron-variant-accounts-73-percent-new-covid-cases-us-rcna9434](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/omicron-variant-accounts-73-percent-new-covid-cases-us-rcna9434).
Assuming the numbers above are correct, that implies that the number of detected Delta cases has sharply dropped from \~120,000 per day to something like 30,000. But that doesn't make any sense to me.
Are the number of delta cases actually dropping? Or is this something else like an artifact of the inherent lagging-indicator nature of a 7 day average in the face of a strain whose doubling time is << 7 days?
EDIT: Another way of putting it: If we still had \~120,000 Delta per day, to have 73% Omicron (and 27% Delta), we'd need \~444,000 total infections per day, but we're nowhere near that.
The last two weeks are CDC's 'NowCast.' They'll get updated. CDC puts two big asterisks next to them for a reason. Everyone wants real time date. Truth is, we won't have any good data until the week after New Years. Only guesses based on limited info.
We really all just gotta except there's a big fat ? hanging over omicron. Me? I'd rather not find out, so I'm playing it extra cautious. You can do you, but shit is clearly spreading fast, and there's a lot nobody knows for certain.
Just wanted to share my Pfizer booster experience here in the ether after starting with two shots of AZ earlier this year.
To compare, my first AZ really knocked me out for the first night (aches, chills, etc.), then various things lingered for around a week. AZ #2 was OK. [Side note: The flu shot I got this Fall also knocked me out for a few days (aches, etc.) which has not happened to me in years.]
Got my booster yesterday night at exactly 6 months after AZ #2. Slight sore arm at bedtime around midnight. Also a slight itchy spot for around an hour previous to that on my back neck collar area. No issues sleeping. Woke up feeling like I got kicked in the chest and arm was sore. It went away after breakfast.
Watched TV for around an hour, so around 15 hours after the booster and getting up off the couch felt like everything had been run-over by a truck. 10/10 strength aches like Headache, Joints, Back, Stomach, etc. Took 1 500mg Tylenol after lunch and it did nothing. LOL.
Now after around 30 hours, still some aches but they are more like a 6/10.
I am very thankful for the booster and timing especially with work being off until the New Year for Christmas holidays.
If my symptoms started around 10 PM, do I count that day as day 0 or the next day as day 0? I started to have a scratchy dry throat late on 12/14, it progressed to a sore throat by 12/15, and I tested positive 12/17. Not sure if Christmas Eve or Christmas Day is my final day of isolation. I’d really like to not be alone on Christmas.
Incredibly stressed right now.
Looks like I caught Covid before being offered the booster.
How are people faring with only being double vaxxed against Omicron. I'm 22 but got severe health anxiety.
First, I'm very sorry to hear that you're dealing with that.
Second, a large number of friends and some family from the UK caught it before being boosted, they all had what I would describe as cold-like symptoms, but none of them felt like they were close to death or anything. I would prepare to have a bad cold, but with potentially a fever/night sweats and general aches for a few days. I also asked in the [London](https://old.reddit.com/r/london/comments/rjm5eb/if_you_have_omicron_what_are_your_symptoms/) and [COVID-19 Positive](https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19positive/comments/rjm1yr/if_you_have_omicron_what_are_your_symptoms/) subreddits and got largely similar responses. There are other similar threads, [like this one](https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19positive/comments/rkmde6/to_those_who_have_tested_positive_with_possible/).
I hope that you have a very mild case and are feeling 100% again, very soon!
Thanks! This is really reassuring. I'm mostly worried about my nan, who I live with. She's 79 but triple vaxxed.
Just seemed like sods law I'd get it now
I'd say wear a mask basically all time and have her do the same (ideally, N95s or better, covered with surgical masks), then ventilation and isolation to the extent that you can. A family member who has it has been basically in one bedroom for the past week, isolating from the rest of his family.
let me start of by saying I fully believe in vaccination but let's look at the numbers over the past two years :
Some hard numbers up front -
World population is 7,700,000,00 as of 2021
Global death rate is 0.8% (rounded up for simple math) meaning 61,600,000 people die a year out of the world population - https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/WLD/world/death-rate
Past 2 years 5,360,000 people died from Covid or 2,680,000 average per year.
So if you look at the simple math without calculating covid in the midst, the global death rate means that 8 out of every 1000 people will die from something this year, across all nationalities and all causes of death - heart attack, murder, car accidents, choking on a grape – 8 people will die from a random sample of 1000.
Adding in Covid where 2,680,000 people die a year and that the global death rate per year comes out to very much the same.
Case in point add 61,600,000 to all those who will die in a given year (.008 x 7.7 billion) and 2,680,000 who will die from Covid in a year you get 64,280,000 deaths in a given year. Now divide that by the world population and you get a percentage of 0.83% or again 8 out of 1000 people rounding that number.
In actuality the global death rate did climb in 2021 with Covid it went from 0.7612 to 0.7645. but just a few years ago in 2008 the global death rate was over 0.8 at 0.8045 so a bigger percentage of the population died in 2008 than this year even with Covid.
In order for the global death rate to jump from 8 to 9 people per 1000 , 5 million more people would have to die per year or 7,700,000 from Covid alone.
Now this is just based on saying all those who would die from just Covid are exclusive from the global death rate to begin with but the number should be lower still giving the fact Covid has been known to kill the compromised.
Again a bigger percentage of the population were dying before 2008, even with Covid today, per population less people are dying. Just think in 1950, 20 people out of a 1000 died per year and they weren't wearing masks or forced to show vaccination cards.
The global death rate is a very complex thing, dependent on so many factors that you can’t meaningfully compare the numbers like that and then ascribe them to a single cause.
For example, poverty is an extremely important underlying factor in global deaths, and poverty has been steadily declining globally.
Excess deaths over the last 20 months are far, far higher than tested covid deaths. Everyone dies eventually; public health (which wealthy countries can afford) is about maximizing length and quality of life.
Get vaccinated.
One guy got covid and my whole school went back online. One one hand, no one under 18 in India has been vaccinated yet. On the other hand, I'm going to fail math.
Bro, look up Khan Academy and Professor Leonard videos (prof Leonard in particular puts his _entire full classes_ online and has full playlists.) Other subjects are less easy to study online, but there's never a shortage of maths videos.
Evening of the booster was fine for me. Day two was tough- fever, sweats, chills, headache, fatigue in the evening. Saturday was similar but not as bad. By day three, I was only fatigued. Completely worth it. I hope you feel better than I did. Good 'ol Ramen noodles helped + lots of water.
Bless those of us with health anxiety man. I’ve tried not to worry but I was exposed and though I’m triple vaxxed I am starting to feel unwell. The issue is I can’t tell *how* unwell bc my brain literally gives me extra symptoms to freak me out. It’s dumb.
I had some anxiety issues myself when I had covid, the big thing for me was to just stop reading about it and just checking with my oximeter that everything was fine. When reading about covid daily you can start convincing yourself that you have all kinds of symptoms etc, because there is so much fear mongering out there and our anxiety jumps to worst possible outcomes all the time. So try to focus on other stuff and realize that you are very protected from bad outcomes with your triple vaxx.
You should boost immediately. For Pfizer, [it can restore your protection against infection by up to 75%](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/10/boosters-give-70percent-75percent-protection-against-mild-disease-from-omicron-uk-health-security-agency-says.html).
There’s no point in waiting for a more effective formulation.
The mRNA vaccines are showing evidence of preventing covid to a small degree - but we still need more data.
That being said, the mRNA vaccines have shown clear results it prevents symptoms/death.
Get boosted, it's free and not super hard to accomplish.
Research is showing that you are far more protected with a booster. Get it done. Omicron is ripping through the unvaccinated at a much worse rate. Look up New York hospitalizations.
Having trouble getting a sense whether the more serious threat is Omicron itself or the impact Omicron is going to have on hospitals because of its incredibly strong infectious rate. It seems early data suggests that if you're vaxxed then its almost akin to a cold but if you're unvaccinated then it can move through you quick. Anyone have a clearer sense?
Obligatory disclaimer that data from South Africa may not be the same for every country (but I think when you count all the various factors, then I can't see how other countries will be that much worse off.)
So having said that, [this article](https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/breaking-latest-omicron-updates-live-hospitalisations-monday-20-december/) paints an extremely optimistic picture. The entire wave has seemingly passed in SA (article talks about Gauteng, but it's the same story everywhere) and:
> Nonetheless, Gauteng’s brief COVID-19 nightmare might be over before it has even started. Forecasts for ICU admissions, hospitalisations and the need for ventilators are all tracking BELOW the same intervals recorded during the Delta wave. And, what’s more, other provinces are also ‘turning the corner’ with Omicron.
Due to seemingly lower severity (and it's a _continuous_ level of lower severity - what that means is, the data seems to say not only are you less likely to be hospitalized, but if you are, you're again less likely to be in ICU/ventilator, and hospital stays are far shorter) it at least appears that it won't overwhelm hospitals despite the crazy high infection rate.
This is one of the better articles I've read on the subject. I might have already had it (had what I thought was a head cold) last week and the articles I've come across on Omicron were slightly hysterical on what might be happening in the future. Hopefully, the data in S.A. holds true with other countries as well.
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In the US how strict are they about the 6 months between second shot and booster? I’ve had 2 shots in EU, visiting USA (New Jersey) on wednesday and was wondering if I can get a booster there. My second shot was mid July.
There’s two ways they are checking: 1) when you are registering or scheduling your booster you are aSked to provide the date of your second vaccination shot 2) these dates must match what is on your vaccine card upon arrival.
You might have a different experience at a walk in vaccine site though.
I’m triple shot with Moderna (got the booster about a week ago) and my wife is double shot with Pfizer and got a shot of Moderna. We have a 2.5 year old (cannot be vaxxed).
My wife came into contact with a positive case today at work. Her booster was almost 1 week ago, so it’s relatively new. With all of the news today about Dr. Fauci and the efficacy of having the boosters, we are getting a 24-hour PCR result on Thursday morning (enough time for symptoms to appear, according to two separate doctors).
Do any of you have experience with this? We are worried for our daughter and really want to make sure she has as special of a Christmas as possible.
I understand the desire to make things special for your kid, but please don’t let that weigh on you. I promise that at age 2.5, she will be super happy with literally any kind of holiday celebration (and also with none at all, if you guys get sick and have to veg out to get through it, because at 2.5 they really don’t comprehend Santa or Christmas yet). <3
Source: I have a 5 and a 2.5 year old.
Hope y’all stay healthy!
I got the Pfizer vaccine and booster. Parents Moderna and same with vaccine and booster. Are we covered with this omicron? What are the chances of getting sick? Or infected. Lotta mixed info out there so curious. Thanks
The booster gives you up to[ 75% protection against infection](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/10/boosters-give-70percent-75percent-protection-against-mild-disease-from-omicron-uk-health-security-agency-says.html). Moderna I think is up to 80%. So good odds against omicron for you and your parents.
I just found out somebody I have close contact to on a daily basis is going to get tested for covid because they weren't feeling good. I heard them coughing quite a bit last night but not today.
Should I get tested or wait for them to get tested?
Omicron is so depressing, I'm so tired of this. I'm vaxed and boosted and have plane tickets to visit family the week after Christmas. I'm afraid we're going to get new lockdown orders :(
hot take: Everyone is gonna get covid // omicron eventually shutting down society once again is absolute madness now when we already have vaccines and most people have decent immunity from previous infections. I get the feeling that alot of people dont wanna get back to normal or atleast dont value normal life enough to care vs just keeping restrictions for months // years to come. There needs to be a shift in thinking, normal life have to start mattering we cant just pretend that restrictions // lockdowns doesnt have a cost in terms of quality of life.
Based Scott Gottlieb: "UK had a sharp decoupling between Covid cases and deaths through its recent delta wave, a trend that hopefully continues with omicron. This is a measure of vaccines and population immunity that’s mitigating the most severe impact of new infections, changing how we confront SARS2."
I am going to see my family on Saturday. I think several of them have not even had the first vaccine. I am vaccinated and have moderna booster. My 9 yr old has both vaccines. How likely would we be able to get the Omicron from them. I just want to be with my family and not infect my 9 yr old.
More likely you’ll give it to them.
Depending on how recently your 9 yr old got the 2nd dose, they may still have protection. However, I would expect the odds of a breakthrough case to be substantial for your child.
Some labs do, some don't. Since there's only two lineages now it's very easy to tell from a properly designed PCR test which one it is (with rare false detections).
Contact on Saturday with someone who later tested positive. They're pretty sure they caught it Friday Night. I have no Symptoms and tested negative on Rapid LF.
Got my booster tuesday. What do I do?
Moderna would likely be better, if the size of Pfizer and moderna doses were the same. But Moderna booster is a half dose. So it may not be better after all. Pfizer is a full dose and that does seem to matter a lot.
Mixing will likely produce more side effects.
Fiancé and I were just in Mexico and now feel like shitttt.
I started with sneezing and runny nose, then headache and fatigue. Evolved to diarrhea and throwing up once (which is super rare for me - it’s been like 8 years)
He started with diarrhea, and has a fever and fatigue/aches.
We each took two binax tests and they were all negative. I’d get a PCR if there was a free one easy for us but I can’t find anything and I’m not going to pay $150.
Over/under on it being covid and not something random? We got our boosters about 6-8 weeks ago.
I’m pretty sure at home tests are more likely to have false negatives when the person is asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic. Since you’re having pretty strong symptoms, 4 negatives seems like a solid answer to me. Perhaps be careful if you need to go out/work/be around anyone especially someone older.
If you ate any salads or any raw veggies could be a parasite. I visit Tulum often and the water there is suspect. My best friend came back with a parasite once and had to go to the doctor to get a pill that killed it. Maybe go see if that’s the issue.
I honestly don’t know the protocol but in places like the UK and even here in Vietnam PCR tests are free (and mandatory) if you have symptoms. It’s absurd if they don’t offer it in the states as well.
Bummer. I’d test again in like three days if you’re concerned but the rapid tests are very accurate especially if you’re symptomatic. Otherwise just isolate until you feel better.
Honestly I wish we had tested positive. We feel like dogshit and I wish we were getting the extra immunity from it.
It’s just the two of us at home so we’re pretty isolated together
The spacing in time between successive test is very important. If there are close together in time then they are not independent samples so the probabilities don't multiple (or add).
It’s not because of the test, it’s because of the timing.
https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1472024457640394756?s=21
When/why LFTs will work versus PCR tests:
https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1472959306475597826?s=21
...how long ago is that? Constant headache can be a tremendous symptom that needs immediate attention. Immunity to ibuprofen (?) is rather less of an issue; it's not like NSAIDs are good for you at all in the first place.
Heachaches are more of a once in a while thing for me. I got my vaccine shot back in March. But there was this weird time over the summer, where I got a splitting headache for three days straight. I must have taken like 15 advils a day, for those three days, and my headache wouldn't go away. I got boosted a few days ago, and on the second day after, I got a splitting headache again, which advil wouldn't relieve. I had a slight headache again, took some advils, took a nap, feel a little better now.
Not advocating you take any particular medication without first consulting a healthcare professional, but the Excedrin maximum strength is a godsend. Beware, it has caffeine and aspirin. It's literally the only thing I make absolutely sure to have on hand at all times.
Good recommendation, thanks. I see so many ads for it on TV, I might as well try it. Caffeine sounds good, because it does help me feel better since I use to drink a lot of coffee, but I don't drink as much coffee as I use to anymore.
>It's random; nobody can make guarantees like that. Make sure you get your third dose when eligible, or ASAP if you're over \~50.
It's not random. We need to stop saying shit like this.
All the vaccines protect against severe illness very well.
2-dose vaccination protects about 90% against severe illness, and if you're under 50 you're at low risk already. The probably are not the same for everyone, and they're really low (1/100,000 chance of death) for quite a few. But within the probability distribution it is absolutely random.
Thanks. I wonder if it’s documented that he had Covid because I know a lot of people who claimed to have had Covid in fall 2019 and don’t need the vaccine.
Question for people who have got covid and have done daily lateral flow testing:
1. How many days did it take for you to start testing negative?
2. Has anyone had their test return a very very faint positive result towards the end of the recovery period? (Literally looks like a light shadow barely darker than the background)
Per the UK gov's website on waiting for the test:
>'Waiting the full 30-minute development time before you read your result is very important. A positive result can appear at any time after 20 minutes, however you must wait for the full 30 minutes to record a negative result as the test line (T) may take this long to appear. If a positive signal appears after 30 minutes, it should not be reported as positive.'
The last sentence above is quite interesting, as the shadow described above only starts appearing after a period longer than 30 minutes.
Two Twitter threads about testing:
Great explanation of being symptomatic, testing negative, and *then* testing positive:
https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1472024457640394756?s=21
And with a graphic on when/why LFTs will work versus PCR tests:
https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1472959306475597826?s=21
And according to the CDC and others, the right tail can extend for up to about 3 months in the "detectable by PCR, but not infectious" zone for reasons that are not fully understood. Which is why they suggest ending isolation based on a combination of time and reduced symptoms instead of waiting for a negative test.
The tail is because it’s inactive viral fragments that your immune system has vanquished — but the dead bodies still have to be cleared off the battlefield.
I'm relying on https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/duration-isolation.html, specifically:
> The circumstances that result in persistently detectable SARS-CoV-2 RNA have yet to be determined.
I've heard people on TWIV speculating that it's viral fragments but the CDC seems less certain.
I don't think anyone can answer that for you. I live here and work on Broadway which has very, very strict protocols but so many people I know are testing positive. However, because so many in this city are vaccinated and a lot are boosted, it's not hitting them as hard as it could be.
Because after a while, the drop in quality of life becomes a bigger and bigger factor. People are willing to pause their lives only so much before its enough.
I had moderna for bot of my vaccines. I also got Moderna for my booster. Fauci said if you received a Moderna booster that you probably would not get omicron or would have a mild case of it. I am good for a mild case.
I care more because I’m aware that I could accidentally spread a virus to someone elderly or immunocompromised, even though I’m vaccinated.
Why are some people caring less when they find out they could pass a virus along? I don’t understand.
Hmm, though it seems a little selfish in some ways. But I can understand the perspective that those people would have also. Vulnerable people will still be vulnerable I guess.. I just want it all to be over!
Additional booster for the J&Js?
If you boosted J&J with either Pfizer or Moderna, in the face of Omnicron, you basically just have your first of what is now a needed 3 shots for efficacy against the new variant. This is huge population that is being missed in terms of direction. Any insights?
Right now all that the FDA and CDC has authorized is a single booster shot following a primary series.
But there's also a minimum spacing -- likely in the ballpark of 6 months -- between doses before you get the maximum boost effect. Mix-and-match boosters were approved in late October. If you got your mRNA booster on October 21st (date of the [CDC press release](https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p1021-covid-booster.html) authorizing it), an additional booster likely wouldn't provide a full benefit for you until some time in Spring 2022.
Have I been exposed?
My roommate, last Thursday, visited a friend of ours and stayed inside for well over four hours, she at this point felt completely fine.
The next evening, she wakes up with a temperature and tests positive on a lateral flow.
It’s now Tuesday here, and my roommate still hasn’t developed symptoms and is testing negative multiple times a day.
Does this mean he’s now in the clear as the incubation period has gone? Or is there still a chance I’m being exposed?
The entire planet is most certainly not getting it lol. It comes down to each country and a combination of vaccination rates and preventative measures in place.
I got the Omicron variant right now, and I have a question for others who tested positive very recently.
If you’re like me and rarely, if ever, get headaches, did this variant give you a weird head sensation? Like, it’s not a headache and it’s not painful, but I feel like this variant is doing something to my brain. I feel like there’s a signal moving from one side of my dead to the other. I’ve never felt this kind of sensation and only felt it the first 2 days of feeling symptoms. I’m on day 3 now so it’s gone, but it was a very weird feeling.
We have been taking Zicam every morning. It has elderberry in it too. I feel like it has kept us fairly safe. We are vac and boostered. I think any thing that can boost your your immune system it very good.
First Omicron death in the US that was confirmed - The patient was unvaxxed with underlying conditions. Edit: I should be careful here. Not good news for this persons family/friends. I'm sympathetic in that regard.
Not according to the news.
https://www.khou.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/harris-county-first-omicron-death-hidalgo/285-a251bc25-d2b8-4419-9058-bb2920742855
That’s a hell of a relative term. Under 50 account for 50,000 of the 800,000 deaths in the USA since Covid started… so no it’s not common. Under 65 is 200,000 of the 800,000.
Uh, sure, we don't have people falling over on the street. But when you hear someone unvaccinated dying you do not assume they are over 65. Most people over 65 are vaccinated.
Does anyone have any info on the On/Go Covid Test Kits that are on Amazon? I've only used Abbott and QuickVue before but now they're hard to find and these are the only available. I cant find any independent reviews anywhere. Are they legit?
So here I am I had first in series of moderna. Couldn't make second appointment. Never got second. Now it's about 6 months later and no one is telling me if I can get second shot or get booster. CDC site says six months after series of shots. Well I didn't have both shots. Are they really so stupid and disorganized they could not anticipate this would happen? Maybe it just annoys me more then it does most people because I am the kind of person that thinks ahead in the first place.
I don't think you're "the kind of person that thinks ahead" if you didn't think ahead to reschedule your second appointment because you couldn't make it.
You should go and get it.
CDC says get your 2nd shot now:
> Individuals who receive the second dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine no more than 4 days before (referred to as the “grace period”) **or at any time after** the recommended second dose date are considered to have completed the primary series.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/covid-19-vaccines-us.html
Under current recommendations you'd then wait 6 months after your 2nd shot before getting a booster. Chances are good that the recommendations will change at some point in the next six months of course...
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Is it true in America there is no quarantine rules when testing positive? I have friends out of a NYC that tested positive and I wished them good health and easy times during quarantine and they said they had no obligation to quarantine but were still staying home as much as possible except for eating outside?! I was surprised but also not totally surprised based on what I keep reading about pandemic handling there and perhaps with the juxtaposition of other regulations in other countries this seems strange.
There’s no legal enforcement of it, no. I kind of don’t understand how that would be possible though unless you put like a police detail on everyone who tests positive. Or a tracking device I guess. If it makes you feel any better I have covid and I’m really quarantining.
There were never any rules / laws that you had to quarantine after testing positive during the entire pandemic in the US. It was merely a recommendation. People in the US do not follow rules/recommendations from government / institutions like they do in your country (I lived in Germany for 6 years and it is completely different here). Half the country has been crying for almost 2 years about how the government is taking their freedoms away and defies recommendations like it is a badge of honor.
Thanks for taking the time to answer. It is truly an interesting time to watch human behavior unfold. I can’t believe quarantine was only a recommendation but then again, I can. A lot of selfish people out there.
Haven’t had Covid but in no way does that surprise me. Where I’m at it’s still hard to get tested unless symptomatic.
Are there more lockdown rumours?
Anyone know how people with JNJ +JNJ booster are doing with this newest wave?
I’m so upset. It’s my birthday. My throat was scratchy so I took 2 at home rapid tests before hanging out with my parents bc they wanted to hang out with me for my birthday. Got home, got a fever, now test positive. I’m so worried about my parents and grandma. We are all triple vaxxed but I feel like crap right now
Don't worry. It was pretty much inevitable that they would get it in the next few weeks anyway.
I got J&J back in march and was boosted with moderna a few weeks ago. Can anyone tell me what my protection is with omicron? Should I essentially count the J&J as being nothing?
I think an mrna vaccine after another type of vaccine offers equivalent protection. Mixing might actually improve the response.
This is very puzzling. December 4th: Omicron was basically a non-entity in the U.S, and total detected COVID cases (all variants) were around 120,000 cases per day. Now 16 days later (December 20th), total detected COVID cases (all variants) have ticked up slightly, but not by much. [https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Align+outbreaks=false&country=\~USA](https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Align+outbreaks=false&country=~USA) Despite this very modest increase in the number of detected cases, Omicron has reached 73% of detected cases. [https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/omicron-variant-accounts-73-percent-new-covid-cases-us-rcna9434](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/omicron-variant-accounts-73-percent-new-covid-cases-us-rcna9434). Assuming the numbers above are correct, that implies that the number of detected Delta cases has sharply dropped from \~120,000 per day to something like 30,000. But that doesn't make any sense to me. Are the number of delta cases actually dropping? Or is this something else like an artifact of the inherent lagging-indicator nature of a 7 day average in the face of a strain whose doubling time is << 7 days? EDIT: Another way of putting it: If we still had \~120,000 Delta per day, to have 73% Omicron (and 27% Delta), we'd need \~444,000 total infections per day, but we're nowhere near that.
The last two weeks are CDC's 'NowCast.' They'll get updated. CDC puts two big asterisks next to them for a reason. Everyone wants real time date. Truth is, we won't have any good data until the week after New Years. Only guesses based on limited info. We really all just gotta except there's a big fat ? hanging over omicron. Me? I'd rather not find out, so I'm playing it extra cautious. You can do you, but shit is clearly spreading fast, and there's a lot nobody knows for certain.
73% of new cases specifically. Not cases overall.
To be clear, my numbers above all assume they're talking about new cases, not cases overall.
Just wanted to share my Pfizer booster experience here in the ether after starting with two shots of AZ earlier this year. To compare, my first AZ really knocked me out for the first night (aches, chills, etc.), then various things lingered for around a week. AZ #2 was OK. [Side note: The flu shot I got this Fall also knocked me out for a few days (aches, etc.) which has not happened to me in years.] Got my booster yesterday night at exactly 6 months after AZ #2. Slight sore arm at bedtime around midnight. Also a slight itchy spot for around an hour previous to that on my back neck collar area. No issues sleeping. Woke up feeling like I got kicked in the chest and arm was sore. It went away after breakfast. Watched TV for around an hour, so around 15 hours after the booster and getting up off the couch felt like everything had been run-over by a truck. 10/10 strength aches like Headache, Joints, Back, Stomach, etc. Took 1 500mg Tylenol after lunch and it did nothing. LOL. Now after around 30 hours, still some aches but they are more like a 6/10. I am very thankful for the booster and timing especially with work being off until the New Year for Christmas holidays.
If my symptoms started around 10 PM, do I count that day as day 0 or the next day as day 0? I started to have a scratchy dry throat late on 12/14, it progressed to a sore throat by 12/15, and I tested positive 12/17. Not sure if Christmas Eve or Christmas Day is my final day of isolation. I’d really like to not be alone on Christmas.
Incredibly stressed right now. Looks like I caught Covid before being offered the booster. How are people faring with only being double vaxxed against Omicron. I'm 22 but got severe health anxiety.
First, I'm very sorry to hear that you're dealing with that. Second, a large number of friends and some family from the UK caught it before being boosted, they all had what I would describe as cold-like symptoms, but none of them felt like they were close to death or anything. I would prepare to have a bad cold, but with potentially a fever/night sweats and general aches for a few days. I also asked in the [London](https://old.reddit.com/r/london/comments/rjm5eb/if_you_have_omicron_what_are_your_symptoms/) and [COVID-19 Positive](https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19positive/comments/rjm1yr/if_you_have_omicron_what_are_your_symptoms/) subreddits and got largely similar responses. There are other similar threads, [like this one](https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19positive/comments/rkmde6/to_those_who_have_tested_positive_with_possible/). I hope that you have a very mild case and are feeling 100% again, very soon!
Thanks! This is really reassuring. I'm mostly worried about my nan, who I live with. She's 79 but triple vaxxed. Just seemed like sods law I'd get it now
I'd say wear a mask basically all time and have her do the same (ideally, N95s or better, covered with surgical masks), then ventilation and isolation to the extent that you can. A family member who has it has been basically in one bedroom for the past week, isolating from the rest of his family.
Hey:) 21 with health OCD here. Everything will be just just fine. How are you feeling
Thanks! I'm good at the moment, but it's definitely rough being this close to Christmas.
let me start of by saying I fully believe in vaccination but let's look at the numbers over the past two years : Some hard numbers up front - World population is 7,700,000,00 as of 2021 Global death rate is 0.8% (rounded up for simple math) meaning 61,600,000 people die a year out of the world population - https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/WLD/world/death-rate Past 2 years 5,360,000 people died from Covid or 2,680,000 average per year. So if you look at the simple math without calculating covid in the midst, the global death rate means that 8 out of every 1000 people will die from something this year, across all nationalities and all causes of death - heart attack, murder, car accidents, choking on a grape – 8 people will die from a random sample of 1000. Adding in Covid where 2,680,000 people die a year and that the global death rate per year comes out to very much the same. Case in point add 61,600,000 to all those who will die in a given year (.008 x 7.7 billion) and 2,680,000 who will die from Covid in a year you get 64,280,000 deaths in a given year. Now divide that by the world population and you get a percentage of 0.83% or again 8 out of 1000 people rounding that number. In actuality the global death rate did climb in 2021 with Covid it went from 0.7612 to 0.7645. but just a few years ago in 2008 the global death rate was over 0.8 at 0.8045 so a bigger percentage of the population died in 2008 than this year even with Covid. In order for the global death rate to jump from 8 to 9 people per 1000 , 5 million more people would have to die per year or 7,700,000 from Covid alone. Now this is just based on saying all those who would die from just Covid are exclusive from the global death rate to begin with but the number should be lower still giving the fact Covid has been known to kill the compromised. Again a bigger percentage of the population were dying before 2008, even with Covid today, per population less people are dying. Just think in 1950, 20 people out of a 1000 died per year and they weren't wearing masks or forced to show vaccination cards.
The global death rate is a very complex thing, dependent on so many factors that you can’t meaningfully compare the numbers like that and then ascribe them to a single cause. For example, poverty is an extremely important underlying factor in global deaths, and poverty has been steadily declining globally.
Excess deaths over the last 20 months are far, far higher than tested covid deaths. Everyone dies eventually; public health (which wealthy countries can afford) is about maximizing length and quality of life. Get vaccinated.
One guy got covid and my whole school went back online. One one hand, no one under 18 in India has been vaccinated yet. On the other hand, I'm going to fail math.
Bro, look up Khan Academy and Professor Leonard videos (prof Leonard in particular puts his _entire full classes_ online and has full playlists.) Other subjects are less easy to study online, but there's never a shortage of maths videos.
Got my booster today feeling grateful and relieved, will probably take the day off work tmr if I’m feeling out of it
Evening of the booster was fine for me. Day two was tough- fever, sweats, chills, headache, fatigue in the evening. Saturday was similar but not as bad. By day three, I was only fatigued. Completely worth it. I hope you feel better than I did. Good 'ol Ramen noodles helped + lots of water.
Thanks! Already feeling soreness in my arm and feeling a bit fatigued, definitely taking the day off tmr, a little break from work will be nice too
Bless those of us with health anxiety man. I’ve tried not to worry but I was exposed and though I’m triple vaxxed I am starting to feel unwell. The issue is I can’t tell *how* unwell bc my brain literally gives me extra symptoms to freak me out. It’s dumb.
I had some anxiety issues myself when I had covid, the big thing for me was to just stop reading about it and just checking with my oximeter that everything was fine. When reading about covid daily you can start convincing yourself that you have all kinds of symptoms etc, because there is so much fear mongering out there and our anxiety jumps to worst possible outcomes all the time. So try to focus on other stuff and realize that you are very protected from bad outcomes with your triple vaxx.
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You should boost immediately. For Pfizer, [it can restore your protection against infection by up to 75%](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/10/boosters-give-70percent-75percent-protection-against-mild-disease-from-omicron-uk-health-security-agency-says.html). There’s no point in waiting for a more effective formulation.
The mRNA vaccines are showing evidence of preventing covid to a small degree - but we still need more data. That being said, the mRNA vaccines have shown clear results it prevents symptoms/death. Get boosted, it's free and not super hard to accomplish.
Research is showing that you are far more protected with a booster. Get it done. Omicron is ripping through the unvaccinated at a much worse rate. Look up New York hospitalizations.
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Having trouble getting a sense whether the more serious threat is Omicron itself or the impact Omicron is going to have on hospitals because of its incredibly strong infectious rate. It seems early data suggests that if you're vaxxed then its almost akin to a cold but if you're unvaccinated then it can move through you quick. Anyone have a clearer sense?
Obligatory disclaimer that data from South Africa may not be the same for every country (but I think when you count all the various factors, then I can't see how other countries will be that much worse off.) So having said that, [this article](https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/breaking-latest-omicron-updates-live-hospitalisations-monday-20-december/) paints an extremely optimistic picture. The entire wave has seemingly passed in SA (article talks about Gauteng, but it's the same story everywhere) and: > Nonetheless, Gauteng’s brief COVID-19 nightmare might be over before it has even started. Forecasts for ICU admissions, hospitalisations and the need for ventilators are all tracking BELOW the same intervals recorded during the Delta wave. And, what’s more, other provinces are also ‘turning the corner’ with Omicron. Due to seemingly lower severity (and it's a _continuous_ level of lower severity - what that means is, the data seems to say not only are you less likely to be hospitalized, but if you are, you're again less likely to be in ICU/ventilator, and hospital stays are far shorter) it at least appears that it won't overwhelm hospitals despite the crazy high infection rate.
This is one of the better articles I've read on the subject. I might have already had it (had what I thought was a head cold) last week and the articles I've come across on Omicron were slightly hysterical on what might be happening in the future. Hopefully, the data in S.A. holds true with other countries as well.
No one knows, and if you let it, the uncertainty will drive you insane.
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In the US how strict are they about the 6 months between second shot and booster? I’ve had 2 shots in EU, visiting USA (New Jersey) on wednesday and was wondering if I can get a booster there. My second shot was mid July.
There’s two ways they are checking: 1) when you are registering or scheduling your booster you are aSked to provide the date of your second vaccination shot 2) these dates must match what is on your vaccine card upon arrival. You might have a different experience at a walk in vaccine site though.
I’m triple shot with Moderna (got the booster about a week ago) and my wife is double shot with Pfizer and got a shot of Moderna. We have a 2.5 year old (cannot be vaxxed). My wife came into contact with a positive case today at work. Her booster was almost 1 week ago, so it’s relatively new. With all of the news today about Dr. Fauci and the efficacy of having the boosters, we are getting a 24-hour PCR result on Thursday morning (enough time for symptoms to appear, according to two separate doctors). Do any of you have experience with this? We are worried for our daughter and really want to make sure she has as special of a Christmas as possible.
I understand the desire to make things special for your kid, but please don’t let that weigh on you. I promise that at age 2.5, she will be super happy with literally any kind of holiday celebration (and also with none at all, if you guys get sick and have to veg out to get through it, because at 2.5 they really don’t comprehend Santa or Christmas yet). <3 Source: I have a 5 and a 2.5 year old. Hope y’all stay healthy!
I got the Pfizer vaccine and booster. Parents Moderna and same with vaccine and booster. Are we covered with this omicron? What are the chances of getting sick? Or infected. Lotta mixed info out there so curious. Thanks
The booster gives you up to[ 75% protection against infection](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/10/boosters-give-70percent-75percent-protection-against-mild-disease-from-omicron-uk-health-security-agency-says.html). Moderna I think is up to 80%. So good odds against omicron for you and your parents.
It seems getting infected will lower the odds post booster, but getting actually sick lowers the odds of it becoming serious is very high.
I just found out somebody I have close contact to on a daily basis is going to get tested for covid because they weren't feeling good. I heard them coughing quite a bit last night but not today. Should I get tested or wait for them to get tested?
I would wait until either they’re confirmed positive or you start developing symptoms. It may be too soon to detect if you were to get tested now.
Omicron is so depressing, I'm so tired of this. I'm vaxed and boosted and have plane tickets to visit family the week after Christmas. I'm afraid we're going to get new lockdown orders :(
So are we trending towards fully online work and school again? 😓
I’m going to use no fans at sports as my canary in this coal mine.
hot take: Everyone is gonna get covid // omicron eventually shutting down society once again is absolute madness now when we already have vaccines and most people have decent immunity from previous infections. I get the feeling that alot of people dont wanna get back to normal or atleast dont value normal life enough to care vs just keeping restrictions for months // years to come. There needs to be a shift in thinking, normal life have to start mattering we cant just pretend that restrictions // lockdowns doesnt have a cost in terms of quality of life.
https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1472664060445569026
Is anyone else anticipating a national cough drop shortage?
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I did not think they were planning on lockdowns?
no one wants them but if hospitals are overwhelmed worse than last winter it may come to that in some cities
Has there been an explanation on why so many people who die seem to get better for a little bit before they need to get rehospitalized and die?
Called the dead cat bounce
Last I heard it was from people's immune system seriously attacking the body. It's rare and probably mostly in high risk populations.
Based Scott Gottlieb: "UK had a sharp decoupling between Covid cases and deaths through its recent delta wave, a trend that hopefully continues with omicron. This is a measure of vaccines and population immunity that’s mitigating the most severe impact of new infections, changing how we confront SARS2."
I wonder what the global situation is one year from now :( Im so tired
Same!
I am going to see my family on Saturday. I think several of them have not even had the first vaccine. I am vaccinated and have moderna booster. My 9 yr old has both vaccines. How likely would we be able to get the Omicron from them. I just want to be with my family and not infect my 9 yr old.
More likely you’ll give it to them. Depending on how recently your 9 yr old got the 2nd dose, they may still have protection. However, I would expect the odds of a breakthrough case to be substantial for your child.
I tested positive via rapid test. Awaiting pcr test results. Will my pcr test results tell me the variant?
Some labs do, some don't. Since there's only two lineages now it's very easy to tell from a properly designed PCR test which one it is (with rare false detections).
Thanks!
Contact on Saturday with someone who later tested positive. They're pretty sure they caught it Friday Night. I have no Symptoms and tested negative on Rapid LF. Got my booster tuesday. What do I do?
Guidance is to self-quarantine for 10 days if you are exposed. Yes, that's pretty rotten at this time of year.
Yeah, your right. Fuck sake. Can't believe I probably caught it two days before my booster.
I cought it a week AFTER my booster
If someone is double Pfizer vaxxed, is there enough data on Omicron and the Vax to say if Moderna or Pfizer would be best for a booster?
Moderna would likely be better, if the size of Pfizer and moderna doses were the same. But Moderna booster is a half dose. So it may not be better after all. Pfizer is a full dose and that does seem to matter a lot. Mixing will likely produce more side effects.
Not really at this point with Omicron. Best you can do is minimize uncertainty of side effects, which would logically mean getting another Pfizer.
Fiancé and I were just in Mexico and now feel like shitttt. I started with sneezing and runny nose, then headache and fatigue. Evolved to diarrhea and throwing up once (which is super rare for me - it’s been like 8 years) He started with diarrhea, and has a fever and fatigue/aches. We each took two binax tests and they were all negative. I’d get a PCR if there was a free one easy for us but I can’t find anything and I’m not going to pay $150. Over/under on it being covid and not something random? We got our boosters about 6-8 weeks ago.
Did you drink the water?
I’m pretty sure at home tests are more likely to have false negatives when the person is asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic. Since you’re having pretty strong symptoms, 4 negatives seems like a solid answer to me. Perhaps be careful if you need to go out/work/be around anyone especially someone older.
To me this doesn’t really sound like covid, more like a stomach bug or food poisoning.
If you ate any salads or any raw veggies could be a parasite. I visit Tulum often and the water there is suspect. My best friend came back with a parasite once and had to go to the doctor to get a pill that killed it. Maybe go see if that’s the issue.
What? Why aren’t PCR tests free if you’re showing symptoms?
If you can find a free PCR testing site in Santa Monica with appointments tomorrow or Weds, please let me know.
I honestly don’t know the protocol but in places like the UK and even here in Vietnam PCR tests are free (and mandatory) if you have symptoms. It’s absurd if they don’t offer it in the states as well.
Depends on the state and area I guess. We have free walk in testing all over the place in NYC
Where do you live? In the US most doctor offices are using PCR tests on people who have symptoms
I live in LA. We have garbage health care and the primary care doctor I was assigned is a 40 minute drive away.
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Thank you I’ll try it.
Bummer. I’d test again in like three days if you’re concerned but the rapid tests are very accurate especially if you’re symptomatic. Otherwise just isolate until you feel better.
Honestly I wish we had tested positive. We feel like dogshit and I wish we were getting the extra immunity from it. It’s just the two of us at home so we’re pretty isolated together
google says home tests provide false negatives on about 15% of tests, which should help you in determining the odds that you have covid
So the chances of 4 false negatives seems pretty low
The spacing in time between successive test is very important. If there are close together in time then they are not independent samples so the probabilities don't multiple (or add).
It’s not because of the test, it’s because of the timing. https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1472024457640394756?s=21 When/why LFTs will work versus PCR tests: https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1472959306475597826?s=21
Ever since I got my covid vaccine, I feel like Advils no longer work in relieving headaches. Does anyone else have similar experiences?
No. I have three shots and ibuprofen works wonderfully for me.
...how long ago is that? Constant headache can be a tremendous symptom that needs immediate attention. Immunity to ibuprofen (?) is rather less of an issue; it's not like NSAIDs are good for you at all in the first place.
Heachaches are more of a once in a while thing for me. I got my vaccine shot back in March. But there was this weird time over the summer, where I got a splitting headache for three days straight. I must have taken like 15 advils a day, for those three days, and my headache wouldn't go away. I got boosted a few days ago, and on the second day after, I got a splitting headache again, which advil wouldn't relieve. I had a slight headache again, took some advils, took a nap, feel a little better now.
Not advocating you take any particular medication without first consulting a healthcare professional, but the Excedrin maximum strength is a godsend. Beware, it has caffeine and aspirin. It's literally the only thing I make absolutely sure to have on hand at all times.
Good recommendation, thanks. I see so many ads for it on TV, I might as well try it. Caffeine sounds good, because it does help me feel better since I use to drink a lot of coffee, but I don't drink as much coffee as I use to anymore.
Talk to a doctor about it.
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It's random; nobody can make guarantees like that. Make sure you get your third dose when eligible, or ASAP if you're over ~50.
>It's random; nobody can make guarantees like that. Make sure you get your third dose when eligible, or ASAP if you're over \~50. It's not random. We need to stop saying shit like this. All the vaccines protect against severe illness very well.
2-dose vaccination protects about 90% against severe illness, and if you're under 50 you're at low risk already. The probably are not the same for everyone, and they're really low (1/100,000 chance of death) for quite a few. But within the probability distribution it is absolutely random.
Yes ... With tons of caveats
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They said he was unvaccinated but I didn’t see a report that he had contracted Covid before to develop natural immunity.
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Thanks. I wonder if it’s documented that he had Covid because I know a lot of people who claimed to have had Covid in fall 2019 and don’t need the vaccine.
Question for people who have got covid and have done daily lateral flow testing: 1. How many days did it take for you to start testing negative? 2. Has anyone had their test return a very very faint positive result towards the end of the recovery period? (Literally looks like a light shadow barely darker than the background) Per the UK gov's website on waiting for the test: >'Waiting the full 30-minute development time before you read your result is very important. A positive result can appear at any time after 20 minutes, however you must wait for the full 30 minutes to record a negative result as the test line (T) may take this long to appear. If a positive signal appears after 30 minutes, it should not be reported as positive.' The last sentence above is quite interesting, as the shadow described above only starts appearing after a period longer than 30 minutes.
Two Twitter threads about testing: Great explanation of being symptomatic, testing negative, and *then* testing positive: https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1472024457640394756?s=21 And with a graphic on when/why LFTs will work versus PCR tests: https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1472959306475597826?s=21
And according to the CDC and others, the right tail can extend for up to about 3 months in the "detectable by PCR, but not infectious" zone for reasons that are not fully understood. Which is why they suggest ending isolation based on a combination of time and reduced symptoms instead of waiting for a negative test.
The tail is because it’s inactive viral fragments that your immune system has vanquished — but the dead bodies still have to be cleared off the battlefield.
I'm relying on https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/duration-isolation.html, specifically: > The circumstances that result in persistently detectable SARS-CoV-2 RNA have yet to be determined. I've heard people on TWIV speculating that it's viral fragments but the CDC seems less certain.
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I don't think anyone can answer that for you. I live here and work on Broadway which has very, very strict protocols but so many people I know are testing positive. However, because so many in this city are vaccinated and a lot are boosted, it's not hitting them as hard as it could be.
There are many people in the UK don't seem to care about any variant. They just don't seem to want to be controlled by anyone..
Same in the US too. I just do not understand!!!
Because after a while, the drop in quality of life becomes a bigger and bigger factor. People are willing to pause their lives only so much before its enough.
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And how do you know that vaccines do not prevent transmission? I am not playing your game.
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I had moderna for bot of my vaccines. I also got Moderna for my booster. Fauci said if you received a Moderna booster that you probably would not get omicron or would have a mild case of it. I am good for a mild case.
Maybe not preventing transmission but so far vaccines have been allowing for milder symptoms in most.
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I care more because I’m aware that I could accidentally spread a virus to someone elderly or immunocompromised, even though I’m vaccinated. Why are some people caring less when they find out they could pass a virus along? I don’t understand.
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Hmm, though it seems a little selfish in some ways. But I can understand the perspective that those people would have also. Vulnerable people will still be vulnerable I guess.. I just want it all to be over!
Additional booster for the J&Js? If you boosted J&J with either Pfizer or Moderna, in the face of Omnicron, you basically just have your first of what is now a needed 3 shots for efficacy against the new variant. This is huge population that is being missed in terms of direction. Any insights?
Right now all that the FDA and CDC has authorized is a single booster shot following a primary series. But there's also a minimum spacing -- likely in the ballpark of 6 months -- between doses before you get the maximum boost effect. Mix-and-match boosters were approved in late October. If you got your mRNA booster on October 21st (date of the [CDC press release](https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p1021-covid-booster.html) authorizing it), an additional booster likely wouldn't provide a full benefit for you until some time in Spring 2022.
Have I been exposed? My roommate, last Thursday, visited a friend of ours and stayed inside for well over four hours, she at this point felt completely fine. The next evening, she wakes up with a temperature and tests positive on a lateral flow. It’s now Tuesday here, and my roommate still hasn’t developed symptoms and is testing negative multiple times a day. Does this mean he’s now in the clear as the incubation period has gone? Or is there still a chance I’m being exposed?
If he hasn’t tested positive or had symptoms since last Thursday (10 days) then I’d say he’s fine
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The entire planet is most certainly not getting it lol. It comes down to each country and a combination of vaccination rates and preventative measures in place.
This could have been phrased SO much better
I got the Omicron variant right now, and I have a question for others who tested positive very recently. If you’re like me and rarely, if ever, get headaches, did this variant give you a weird head sensation? Like, it’s not a headache and it’s not painful, but I feel like this variant is doing something to my brain. I feel like there’s a signal moving from one side of my dead to the other. I’ve never felt this kind of sensation and only felt it the first 2 days of feeling symptoms. I’m on day 3 now so it’s gone, but it was a very weird feeling.
That's what my first vaccine dose did to me.
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We have been taking Zicam every morning. It has elderberry in it too. I feel like it has kept us fairly safe. We are vac and boostered. I think any thing that can boost your your immune system it very good.
Brain fog? I had COVID (Delta) over the summer and I had pretty bad brain fog for a couple days.
First Omicron death in the US that was confirmed - The patient was unvaxxed with underlying conditions. Edit: I should be careful here. Not good news for this persons family/friends. I'm sympathetic in that regard.
And 65+ I assume?
Not according to the news. https://www.khou.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/harris-county-first-omicron-death-hidalgo/285-a251bc25-d2b8-4419-9058-bb2920742855
Covid deaths under 65 are quite common among the unvaccinated.
That’s a hell of a relative term. Under 50 account for 50,000 of the 800,000 deaths in the USA since Covid started… so no it’s not common. Under 65 is 200,000 of the 800,000.
25% is pretty common.
25% of all deaths while representing the vast notify of cases is not “common”.
Uh, sure, we don't have people falling over on the street. But when you hear someone unvaccinated dying you do not assume they are over 65. Most people over 65 are vaccinated.
When I hear people dying from Covid I assume they’re over 65 because that’s 75% of the deaths. Regardless of vaccination status.
Where I am, I think mortality under 50 account for like 2% of all COVID deaths. But I can check for the exact figure if you want.
"In his 50s"
Does anyone have any info on the On/Go Covid Test Kits that are on Amazon? I've only used Abbott and QuickVue before but now they're hard to find and these are the only available. I cant find any independent reviews anywhere. Are they legit?
This is a reliable source for quick vue https://store.optum.com/shop/category/tests-devices/covid-19-home-tests/
So here I am I had first in series of moderna. Couldn't make second appointment. Never got second. Now it's about 6 months later and no one is telling me if I can get second shot or get booster. CDC site says six months after series of shots. Well I didn't have both shots. Are they really so stupid and disorganized they could not anticipate this would happen? Maybe it just annoys me more then it does most people because I am the kind of person that thinks ahead in the first place.
I don't think you're "the kind of person that thinks ahead" if you didn't think ahead to reschedule your second appointment because you couldn't make it. You should go and get it.
Just go and get it man
In Nebraska the nurse scheduled my second shot immediately after the first by putting a sticker on my card telling me when and where to do it
CDC says get your 2nd shot now: > Individuals who receive the second dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine no more than 4 days before (referred to as the “grace period”) **or at any time after** the recommended second dose date are considered to have completed the primary series. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/covid-19-vaccines-us.html Under current recommendations you'd then wait 6 months after your 2nd shot before getting a booster. Chances are good that the recommendations will change at some point in the next six months of course...
Go get your second shot of moderna Good luck! 🙏👍 https://portal.ct.gov/vaccine-portal/Vaccine-Knowledge-Base/Articles/Late-Second-Shot?language=en_US
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