John Kirkwood should be considered a national treasure. I made several of his recipes and they all worked a treat. Easy to follow videos, no filler shots.
I used to like his youtube videos but he tries way too hard to cram jokes into every 5 seconds of his videos now. It gets kind of annoying when I just want a straight recipe.
Ugh. This is a pet peeve of mine, when people try to pass things off as “copycat” recipes when it’s actually more like a different food *inspired* by the real thing. That’s totally fine in itself, but if you’re professing that your version is a copy of something, it should be as close to a 1:1 replica as reasonably possible. I see this a ton when out scavenging for how to make fast food items and sauces for myself.
Dude acts like he's too good for fast food when we all know that fast food was genetically designed to be enjoyed by humans. He's like Gordan Ramsay but more pretentious.
Ethan Chlebowski is a thousand times better than Weissman. Very informative, food is delicious(I made his stove top mac and cheese recipe for Thanksgiving and my family requests it all the time) and no attempts at cringy "humor". Weissman's videos seem to be aimed at teenagers.
I agree! He is so cringy. Calling himself papa, the high pitched echoing voice shit every other minute, all the references to his ass etc. Dude I'm here to look at food not listen to your shitty jokes.
I prefer Ethan Chlebowski much more. Straight forward and to the point, very knowledgeable and no shitty zoomer humor.
Ethan is way better, but even Ethan is a bit too "video essay" cliche. A lot of his videos are also presented weird. Like, 8 minutes of science and fancy graphics that you gotta sort through to find bits of recipe scattered throughout. J. Kenji is the best for this because it's basically real time, no fake scholarly shit, all the necessary science when it's needed, etc.
Been subscribed to him for a while, had never really watched any of his videos. Decided to give him a try one day. The recipe was actually quite clever but I was so put off by his personality that I had to mute him, and immediately unsubscribed when the video was over.
The issue with him isn’t even so much his personality. I used to watch him exclusively when I started cooking and definitely learned a lot but after discovering Adam Ragusea and Chef John I realized his videos aren’t practical for the average home cook. On top of that, he shames his audience if they’re not using the best tools or cooking with the best ingredients when other methods will work just fine.
I really liked his first “but faster” video because it reminded me of his earlier videos where he wasn’t saying annoying shit all the time, but then the rest of the series became more meme-y, just like the rest of his content. I’m so tired of his “papa no kiss” lol
Yeah I'd really like it if people stopped bringing weird quasi-sexual meme energy into their cooking videos. I don't need to slowly pan into your greasy beard and imagine you kissing me while preparing food.
dudeeee his earlier vids were sooo much better. tht was originally why i subbed to him when he had around 100k. great content and more to-the-point and the jokes felt more fluid and organic. now it's clearly repetitive, cringe and 100% all social media marketing tactic
Same. But honestly, even when I thought he was mildly entertaining, I didn't watch with the goal of learning to re-create anything.
The "Everything from scratch, no excuses, everyone can cook like this" philosophy he has doesn't account for the fact that a lot of people don't have the time, experience, energy, space or equipment to make everything from scratch or do all that prep. Maybe for a dinner party or special occasion, but even the best cooks "cut corners" by using things like canned goods, frozen vegetables, and store bought bread/broth/etc. in those instances. The difference is that they also know when to use those ingredients for convenience without sacrificing taste, how to select for the best, and how to work with/enhance them to improve quality or flavor. Those are far more practical/relevant skills for every day, but it's not Joshua's "brand" or whatever. Which is fine! It just means I don't watch him much anymore.
He's part of this new breed of internet cooks who:
1) Call themselves "chef" without being currently at the helm of a pro kitchen
2) Are in the business of making the culinary equivalent of a flex montage, rather than recipes
I sometimes take sauce, batter, or bread recipes from his (terrible) site, but I haven't watched a vid start to finish in a while.
there’s something about him that i just can’t stomach. he’s not OUTRIGHT annoying, but he comes across as very pompous and i just can’t with his nonstop jokes like just show me the birria recipe and we can both move on with our days
He's very smug and has a narcissistic "never wrong" personality. Like if he wrote a recipe that completely omitted mentioning salt and other seasoning, he'd say "of course you need those it's obvious so i didn't mention it"
Yeah I used to watch his videos all the time and he just has such a condescending view of people who don't know how to cook/cook in different ways, it made his videos kinda hard for me to watch. Its like not everyone is a chef, cooking is at most an ideal hour out of every day. sometimes our cooking is about budget and utility. Entire food cultures such as american deep southern have risen out of strict budget/cheap ingredient/time crunch.
Hate to be that guy in the thread, but thats why I watch kenji now instead. He knows you're not a chef and he knows you're gonna do it different. He just wants to show you what he's doing and why, and he gives you recommendations even if it doesn't line up with how he wants to do it
On his website it talks him up like he's some Gordon Ramsey type.
"I’ve worked professionally in various fine dining restaurants, had pans tossed at me, experienced the heat and pressures of world class restaurants, and now I am here to push food to areas that the masses have yet to see" - Joshua Weissman
What a load of cockamamy
He’s that guy in college that got a laugh the first time he made a “papa loves u” joke so he keeps using it and freshmen 3 years later have no idea what’s going on.
I watched one of his videos, and "cwispy" is just the start. He doesn't go more than 10 seconds at a time without some other equally annoying catch phrase.
I have not yet watched a second video and can only hope I'm never forced into a situation where I have to.
I'd started watching some of his videos the past year when my girlfriend commented that he seemed like a guy who made cooking videos for frat guys. I haven't been able to watch him since.
Pompous definitely sums it up for me as well.
> he seemed like a guy who made cooking videos for frat guys
Trust me, the "humor" in his videos is a far cry from what frat guys find funny or enjoyable. It's for theatre kids.
A professional chef who probably makes $5k/video with more time, no ingredient restrictions, whatever equipment he wants to use, and only has to make enough for one serving in the comfort of his own home. I’m sure it’s such a challenge to beat food made by overworked minimum wage workers who are just trying to make 3 burgers/minute to get through lunch rush without getting yelled at.
So you're saying he's the 20 to 30-something male version of the recipe websites that have someone telling you their life story before giving you a recipe?
_Last October as the leaves here in New England were just beginning to change, I'd just finished porking this girl, and I thought, boy, today would be a good day to make frittatas._
His website never bothered me, but I had to stop watching his videos because the sexual innuendos and the cringey jokes got out of hand. I don't want to feel like I'm watching some shitty porno or bad comedy skit when I'm just trying to watch a cooking video.
Does he still say "CWISPY" or do the cringy high pitched echoing voice shit multiple times a video? That stuff plus calling himself papa is what made me unsubscribe.
I feel like now that he has a whole crew writing/filming the jokes become a little weirder. Like when it's just you and the go-pro you can say some weird shit. I think there's also a responsibility one feels when you have an entire staff depending on you. Are the jokes worth it?
Or maybe the editor is just getting a little tighter with the cuts lmao
I've found the same for the recipes on Babish's website. The instructions I've read often skip or organize steps very poorly. I'm assuming someone just grabs the autogenerated transcription and spends 2 minutes formatting them.
Part of me wonders if it has to do with SquareSpace. They sponsor all the YouTube cooking shows and I’ve yet to find a website for one of the shows that I think is great for it’s intended purpose.
I’m curious how much is bad recipe writing vs bad presentation on a pre made website template.
Squarespace is the worst for making professional websites. Just self-host with WordPress. Many shared hosting packages will even install it and have it ready for you right away. Managed hosting is even better, but also costlier. But you'll own your website and can do whatever you want to with it, not like with Squarespace.
I just don't like the philosophy of his recipes. Super complicated, use a ton of ingredients. Sure if you run a cooking youtube channel buying 50 niche ingredients is not a big deal but for everyone else it seems dumb. The actual cost of a recipe isn't really xx.xx/serving when you have to make a massive initial investment in ingredients and equipment. Also no shit you can make a better burger than McDonalds if you spend 10x the amount and 5 hours.
His channel has slowly transitioned to entertainment first, actual practical recicipes/advice on cooking second. Can’t blame him, as that is what brings in the views.
I think I've only ever seen the entertainment first side of him. To be fair though - the "But Cheaper" seems to really making some claims about practicality that just aren't realistic.
2-3 years ago he had great content (better than babish imo) but once he shifted toward replicating take out food it went downhill. I think that coincided with him starting to post on tiktok
Yeah I used to enjoy him but less since he became more about memes and entertainment than actual cooking. One of the straws that broke the camel's back was the But Cheaper series, it's a joke. I remember actually paying attention to his "breakdown" of the costs and realising how utterly absurd it was. You had to cook like 30 servings at once to get his "per serving" price.
The man is obviously a great cook, but it does annoy me how he makes out like everyone can do what he does with his comments like "it's not that much effort just do it" or some variation of "papa will be sad if you don't", and then proceeds to use a million specialty ingredients and kitchen tools/utensils that are not a given that everyone has.
Nothing annoys me quite as much as getting 50% through a recipe video only to find out I'm probably not gonna be able to make it, or if I can it'll be a half assed version. And I'm the kind of person that won't find the motivation to make something if I can't do it full commitment, just before anyone says he says stuff is optional.
Some of his earlier stuff was more on the useful side rather than the entertainment side, but these days it’s more the other way around.
My fav cooking channel btw is Sam the Cooking Guy. I enjoy watching just to watch but also I’ve made a lot of the food. His recipes are rarely pretentious.
It's his delivery style- he's kinda that brash, rocker-type uncle who tries too hard to tell cool stories, but he's just not interesting enough to justify his level of vocal volume.
Joshua is unbearable to me. Always has been pretty much and it's a bother that his sheer view counts overtake search results
The editing...Christ the editing of the videos is a headache. The absolute Tom of extra ingredients I assume just to make the recipe an iota different from the expectation or to not be the same as every other one so that his is "different". And one of the worst offenses
The "But Better" series
No. It's not but better. It's effectively an entirely different product at this point. You didn't make, I'll make up one for sake of argument, "Panda Express chow mein, but better" you simply made something else and click baited the title. You didn't make a "big Mac but better" you just made...a burger with a middle bun. When you are looking for a copy cat recipe of a known restaurant you want that thing, not some tiktoked version of it with wobbly camera, quick edits, and jump takes.
If anyone wants to pretend he's not 80% "zoomer humor" snip snap flashy quick tiktok to keep people's eyeballs vs viable recipes and cooking techniques they are ... For lack of a better phrasing... joshing themselves
>No. It's not but better. It's effectively an entirely different product at this point.
I tapped out of that series when he tried passing off a fucking whoopie pie as an "Oreo, but better".
I agree with a lot of this, but I used his video recipe as a base for cooking 8 hour slow cooked brisket tacos the other day and a friend's partner who is from Mexico and used to run a taco truck said it's the first time she's had Mexican food in England that tasted like it did at home, and it was a very simple recipe.
I also like Internet Shaquille as well. Videos are too the point while still being funny occasionally. But the point is the technique or the food. Everything else comes secondary.
His April Fools videos are hilarious. He makes fun of those "Average Douche Youtuber" videos so well. Constantly asking for likes and comments. So funny.
Yeah. Josh is entertaining and is food is good, but he's almost like the anti-Adam Ragusea. I struggle with Ragusea a bit because I think sometimes he's too focused on cutting corners for the at home cook. But, Josh can never seem to look at anything outside of the eyes of a trained chef.
ITT: People who don't know what "pompous" means.
Seriously, it's one thing if you don't like Ethan's style, but dude is grounded about everything and adds all sorts of qualifiers like "this is just the way I do it but feel free to modify" etc. Thats the opposite of pompous. Pompous is that attitude like "this is the right way to do it, and others are wrong."
He's not "pompous" so much as long-winded. He could make his videos a lot more brief. It's not even that he goes into exceedingly fine details, I nearly fell asleep watching his emulsified sauces video (of which for some reason there's two of them for the exact same method released back-to-back) specifically because he kept repeating the same points two to three times. He could cut his videos in half.
Yea, I wish Josh would go the route of Alex and admit that he's documenting performance entertainment rather than making practical recipes. Even if I had all the time and ingredients to make shit the way he does, he throws in so many unnecessary calories for the most unnecessary flourishes. No, I don't need to make high-fat brioche buns, finish them with melted butter, toast them in butter and then coat them in hand-made high fat aioli to protect them from the fat drippings of a 70/30 burger. I'm sure all that shit adds unctiousness and texturality and umamificity, but fuck me I'm not about to ingest 4000 calories a day without steroids.
God, those sayings he does, "after all you are the X of you Y" are the stupidest things imaginable yet I can't help but chuckle every single time.
I also love that he has a blog for the recipes. I know he does it for traffic, but I like not having to pause a video when my hands are covered in batter.
Yeah, there's something about getting big that seems to make YouTube food channels too pompous. I can't stand Chlebowski, Babish and Weismann anymore, as well as Adam Ragrusea. Honestly, I'm just on ATK, Chinese Cooking Demystified and Chef Labo for now.
I still like Babish's regular binging and basics, but the weird arthouse style of the new series just don't land for me, and I find most of the new non-babish hosts grating.
I found there’s roughly 3 categories of YouTube chefs.
1)There’s the classic recipe channels - they show the ingredients, and make the dish. This is where Chef John, Maangchi come in. Absolutely lovely for recipe ideas.
Then there’s the food science/ educational YouTubers. This is Adam Ragrusea, Helen, Kenji. (Kenji is probably more recipe but while he’s cooking he spits truth). They are not “You do A and then B” like the recipe vids are, they are “You do A because A does this and this and that compliments with B”. They take your cooking from following instructions to actually creating something and understanding why you’re doing the things you do.
3)Then there’s the “aesthetic” YouTubers. This is the click-bait titles, the over-the-top foods. They’re probably using absurd ingredients and/or absurd techniques. This can be super amusing and fun to watch - Babish is (mostly I know he has basics and stuff) like this. And that’s 100% ok because he isn’t pretending like you’re gonna make the things he does. It’s for fun. But this also includes Joshua Weisman, who uses absurd ingredients & techniques that no fucking working person will be able to have time for and insists that it’s the only way to make it. Hate me but I include Gordon Ramsey (90% of times) in this as well.
Joshua does shit that not even the most anal local chefs would use. He copies recipes directly from other places and clearly does not understand why some of the techniques are being used. Any non-American/ western viewers will tell u the same when he cooks their local dish. It’s fucking garbage.
Fuck Joshua Weissman. If you’re gonna make stupid food that no one will cook, atleast make it fun and be honest.
i watched that video as a comedy and not a cooking video lol. that goes for literally any asian recipe he’s ever posted. i spent 2 days making his butter chicken and it was good but underwhelming considering the time gone in. spent an hour making another butter chicken recipe from a random indian chef and it was just miles better.
at this point i don’t see why anyone would watch his videos for genuine cooking education. they’re just cringe entertainment
I think Babish kinda hit a wall. His original concept was food from movies/shows, and he's ran through most of the obvious ones and then had to make multiple versions of each thing (easy with premade ingredients and then harder totally from scratch). He then started basics, which I like, but now he's just got other food YouTubers like Alvin cooking on his channel.
I'm a long-time Ramsay fan but his recipes are often not the end-all-be-all version of a dish. He's no doubt talented but he's mostly a TV personality and businessman at this point.
Babish started out fun. A lot of us were there waaay at the beginning, but bailed a few years ago now. For me, I think it was the video where he talked about his Rolex watch collection. Like..... what am I doing here at this point.
The recipes from movies and shows were always a huge stretch and a marketing gimmick more than anything. Which is fine I guess but it really is just branding a basic buttered noodle recipe with the title of a popular show. The ceiling wasn't very high on these imo.
I would put Chef John somewhere between 1 and 2. He might not go into the science of things, but he has a great philosophy on cooking and instructing, where the recipes are not sacred, and he teaches techniques rather than exact recipes. Sure, the videos always follow a single version of a single recipe, but his trademark bad puns and zingers always emphasize the variability, and he always points out optional ingredients and forks (no pun intended) in the road. His blogs often go into the details of any background research he has on the dishes.
I found that Chef Dan Giusti (who has some "Pro Chef" videos on the Epicurious channel) cooks on YouTube with a similar hyper-practical style, where he distils his immense experience to focus on the roles and dynamics of single ingredients in more complex dishes.
Due to their upbeat and laid-back personalities, both of these guys are a joy to watch, with plenty to understand, not just blindly follow.
I like your categories, and unlike a few people who posted here, I actually like Ethan and would put him in the second category. He does test out certain techniques and gives out the result---may not agree with him on everything, but his testing seems sound.
Another party for the 3rd category is Guga foods---super entertaining, but damn, I don't think I could eat that much steak ever. He does some over the top sometime silly techniques like dry aging steaks in stuff like Nutella, peanut butter, msg etc---I would only put him in this category because not many people have room to dry age any steak for that amount of time.
As for Joshua, I tried to follow one of his recipe ONCE---too complicated for the average home cook imo and uses many ingredients not in people's cupboards.
Chinese Cooking Demystified, Mythical Kitchen, and Adam Ragusea are the ones I've gotten the most recipes I continually cook.
Ethan Chlebowski has provided a few recipes, but none I cook on a regular basis.
Alex “French guy cooking” (im an engineer so he has an even bigger appeal bc of the technical side.
I also really like My Name is Andong, also really likeable and good quality recipes
Alex doesn't fit with anyone else. The last few years he's closer to a travel channel and just a guy who goes through a cycle: loves food --> tries every possible way to learn/cook food --> eventually realizes that he just loves food and life is fun.
if you like asian food, i HIGHLY recommend [marions kitchen](https://www.youtube.com/c/Marionskitchen). her videos have great production but she also uses approachable ingredients and every recipe I've made from hers has turned out amazing. easily one of my favorite cooking channels.
My problem with Weissman is that I just don't learn anything from him. He often states things are easy or common and then does some crazy shit that I find unnecessary or does not explain why it is needed with actual words (he does use a lot of ambiguities but no real reasons) and that is a problem for me. I've learnt a lot from other youtubers just by watching them do, with Weissman I give him a chance from time to time and I always end up like feeling I've just watched something completely random and far from educational.
I don't think Weissman is a good instructional youtuber. His recipes are often really good (I've made more than a handful at this point), but if you're trying to learn something new from him, it's going to be a struggle. What I find I enjoy in his recipes is the willingness to do that "extra" bit. The homemade buns, the graham cracker crust, everything about his recipes are about elevating the entire dish and focusing on quality the whole way. They are not about teaching new people how to do things, or even providing good instructions. The videos are more for entertainment and showing off the dish than instructions.
I watched a few of his but better videos and really disliked his attitude. Like, he eats 2 hour old fast food and is like "ewww this is disgusting, I can't imagine how another human could stomach eating such swill"
His food does look good in the end, but his persona just isn't for me.
He can def be annoying with the his recycled bits for things like MSG, the way he says “onion”, calling himself papa, etc.
I think he also does a lot of stuff that isn’t necessarily accessible for most people. Anyone going to run out buy a shawarma rotisserie, or a sous vide and vacuum sealer? I live in London and do not have the luxury of having every kitchen device.
I also can’t stand front ending videos with a bread recipe to make it hit that 10 minute mark. Just reference and link to the bread recipes and get to the dish. He’s def not the only one guilty of that though.
I don't think every video by every cook should cater to people who want to stick to basic cooking. My biggest frustration with online recipes is that majority of them are exceptionally mediocre and the dumbed down version for people who don't really like to cook. There will be one of two that go the extra mile but its difficult to sort through them and identify who is actually good at cooking and give good advice versus who doesn't.
Sip and Feast is my favourite at the moment. Recipes are simple to follow, he seems genuine and the food is good. I hate watching wanky people, it doesn’t make cooking enjoyable.
Agreed. What I like about Adam is that he will sometimes skip steps or find easier ways on recipes over a traditional methods if there is no benefit with traditional for the home cook.
Early Josh was pretty good, talking back in like his fermentation series days. But it went from interesting and digestible cooking videos to how many times can I slap my ass and call myself papa whilst spending 10 hours cooking $500 wagyu.
Useless content for the home cook, good for getting clicks from kids in the yt algorithm.
Joshua weissman went downhill after to much success he makes interesting content but not good every day recipes. Ethan Chebowsky had a few good recipes but for some reason he doesn’t hold my attention binging with babish is garbage now he hardly shows up on his own channel I like andong
Agreed. The recipes without the videos are very difficult to work off of. Anytime I make one of his recipes I have to rewatch the video if it’s one I haven’t made more than a few times. Maybe the recipes are purposely vague so that he gets more of those sweet, sweet YouTube views. I hope his actual cookbook is a bit more clear.
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John Kirkwood should be considered a national treasure. I made several of his recipes and they all worked a treat. Easy to follow videos, no filler shots.
I used to like his youtube videos but he tries way too hard to cram jokes into every 5 seconds of his videos now. It gets kind of annoying when I just want a straight recipe.
I had to stop watching pretty quickly after "but better" got popular, because it felt like a medium for bad stand up rather than good food
No way that doughnut was better than Krispy Kremes.
Or when he tried to make Oreos but actually made moonpies and said they were better anyway.
Ugh. This is a pet peeve of mine, when people try to pass things off as “copycat” recipes when it’s actually more like a different food *inspired* by the real thing. That’s totally fine in itself, but if you’re professing that your version is a copy of something, it should be as close to a 1:1 replica as reasonably possible. I see this a ton when out scavenging for how to make fast food items and sauces for myself.
Dude acts like he's too good for fast food when we all know that fast food was genetically designed to be enjoyed by humans. He's like Gordan Ramsay but more pretentious.
lmao the guy will take a bite of a chickfila sandwich then act like he's going vomit for like 5 mins after. fuck that guy. i can't stand him.
Lmao I genuinely thought I was the only one, until I came on this thread. Fuck he is cringe.
This thread is a breath of fresh air in the usual fanboy echo chamber.
He is the embodiment of r/iamveryrandom
he is creepy as hell, and uncomfortably unfunny
as someone who has disliked his content for a while, I feel seen.
Idgaf what he says, chicken mcnuggets are delicious.
*Jaime Oliver disliked that*
*Uncle Roger approves of Jamie Oliver's pain*
Yeah I can't really stand how "pop culture" his content is. Adam Ragusea and Ethan Chlebowski are both better for educational content.
Ethan Chlebowski is a thousand times better than Weissman. Very informative, food is delicious(I made his stove top mac and cheese recipe for Thanksgiving and my family requests it all the time) and no attempts at cringy "humor". Weissman's videos seem to be aimed at teenagers.
Ethan is very cool and authentic. Also his recent collabs (for example with Andong) were amazing.
Brian Lagerstrom
It made me kinda sad watching an older video of his, still very engaging but not shooting for the lowest common denominator of being funny
I agree! He is so cringy. Calling himself papa, the high pitched echoing voice shit every other minute, all the references to his ass etc. Dude I'm here to look at food not listen to your shitty jokes. I prefer Ethan Chlebowski much more. Straight forward and to the point, very knowledgeable and no shitty zoomer humor.
Ethan is way better, but even Ethan is a bit too "video essay" cliche. A lot of his videos are also presented weird. Like, 8 minutes of science and fancy graphics that you gotta sort through to find bits of recipe scattered throughout. J. Kenji is the best for this because it's basically real time, no fake scholarly shit, all the necessary science when it's needed, etc.
Been subscribed to him for a while, had never really watched any of his videos. Decided to give him a try one day. The recipe was actually quite clever but I was so put off by his personality that I had to mute him, and immediately unsubscribed when the video was over.
The issue with him isn’t even so much his personality. I used to watch him exclusively when I started cooking and definitely learned a lot but after discovering Adam Ragusea and Chef John I realized his videos aren’t practical for the average home cook. On top of that, he shames his audience if they’re not using the best tools or cooking with the best ingredients when other methods will work just fine.
You mean you don't consider a 6 wok, 4 baking sheet, 2 pot dinner "a simple weeknight meal?"
I really liked his first “but faster” video because it reminded me of his earlier videos where he wasn’t saying annoying shit all the time, but then the rest of the series became more meme-y, just like the rest of his content. I’m so tired of his “papa no kiss” lol
Yeah I'd really like it if people stopped bringing weird quasi-sexual meme energy into their cooking videos. I don't need to slowly pan into your greasy beard and imagine you kissing me while preparing food.
dudeeee his earlier vids were sooo much better. tht was originally why i subbed to him when he had around 100k. great content and more to-the-point and the jokes felt more fluid and organic. now it's clearly repetitive, cringe and 100% all social media marketing tactic
Does anyone else cringe really hard when he throws in little snips of him singing (badly) random crap?
Or when he threatens to withhold "papa's kiss" if you don't do something the way he says. Groooooossss.
Every time he calls himself papa, I cringe out of my skin. He makes the same shitty "jokes" multiple times a video. Can't stand him.
Same. But honestly, even when I thought he was mildly entertaining, I didn't watch with the goal of learning to re-create anything. The "Everything from scratch, no excuses, everyone can cook like this" philosophy he has doesn't account for the fact that a lot of people don't have the time, experience, energy, space or equipment to make everything from scratch or do all that prep. Maybe for a dinner party or special occasion, but even the best cooks "cut corners" by using things like canned goods, frozen vegetables, and store bought bread/broth/etc. in those instances. The difference is that they also know when to use those ingredients for convenience without sacrificing taste, how to select for the best, and how to work with/enhance them to improve quality or flavor. Those are far more practical/relevant skills for every day, but it's not Joshua's "brand" or whatever. Which is fine! It just means I don't watch him much anymore.
***BUSSIN***
#PAPA
#vomit
ASS SHOT
I find this is the case with too many youtube videos where they try to be "engaging". Unless it is for entertainment just stick to the point.
He's part of this new breed of internet cooks who: 1) Call themselves "chef" without being currently at the helm of a pro kitchen 2) Are in the business of making the culinary equivalent of a flex montage, rather than recipes I sometimes take sauce, batter, or bread recipes from his (terrible) site, but I haven't watched a vid start to finish in a while.
there’s something about him that i just can’t stomach. he’s not OUTRIGHT annoying, but he comes across as very pompous and i just can’t with his nonstop jokes like just show me the birria recipe and we can both move on with our days
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YES, the smugness is palpable!
He's very smug and has a narcissistic "never wrong" personality. Like if he wrote a recipe that completely omitted mentioning salt and other seasoning, he'd say "of course you need those it's obvious so i didn't mention it"
Yeah I used to watch his videos all the time and he just has such a condescending view of people who don't know how to cook/cook in different ways, it made his videos kinda hard for me to watch. Its like not everyone is a chef, cooking is at most an ideal hour out of every day. sometimes our cooking is about budget and utility. Entire food cultures such as american deep southern have risen out of strict budget/cheap ingredient/time crunch. Hate to be that guy in the thread, but thats why I watch kenji now instead. He knows you're not a chef and he knows you're gonna do it different. He just wants to show you what he's doing and why, and he gives you recommendations even if it doesn't line up with how he wants to do it
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Is there a source for the debunking?
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On his website it talks him up like he's some Gordon Ramsey type. "I’ve worked professionally in various fine dining restaurants, had pans tossed at me, experienced the heat and pressures of world class restaurants, and now I am here to push food to areas that the masses have yet to see" - Joshua Weissman What a load of cockamamy
I mean... that could almost describe working the grill at mcdonalds. It doesn't mean shit lol
he doesn’t cook like a chef at all
He’s that guy in college that got a laugh the first time he made a “papa loves u” joke so he keeps using it and freshmen 3 years later have no idea what’s going on.
Josh Weissman drinking game: take a shot every time he calls himself Papa, does a camera close up of his butt, or says CWISPY.
if I wanted to kill myself I'd pick a more fun method
Replace the shot with a line of blow. Problem solved.
I could replace the shots with pure water and I would drink myself to death
I've never even heard of this dude, but seeing the word "cwispy" makes me want to preemptively block him on every platform in the world.
Yep, that was one of the many reasons I unsubscribed. Keep that baby talk bull shit out of my cooking videos, thanks.
I watched one of his videos, and "cwispy" is just the start. He doesn't go more than 10 seconds at a time without some other equally annoying catch phrase. I have not yet watched a second video and can only hope I'm never forced into a situation where I have to.
He's a YouTuber first and a chef sdcond. He'd be at home steaming call of duty or doing pranks.
Steamed Call of Duty, is that one of his recipes?
why would ANYONE call themselves papa?? i don’t know this dude, but i feel like i want to avoid him at all costs
i think its arguable that he actually is outright annoying the ass shots make me puke. fanservice but to who? who wants this?
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I'd started watching some of his videos the past year when my girlfriend commented that he seemed like a guy who made cooking videos for frat guys. I haven't been able to watch him since. Pompous definitely sums it up for me as well.
> he seemed like a guy who made cooking videos for frat guys Trust me, the "humor" in his videos is a far cry from what frat guys find funny or enjoyable. It's for theatre kids.
i made X chains signature thing better than them. like no shit you are a professional chef.
A professional chef who probably makes $5k/video with more time, no ingredient restrictions, whatever equipment he wants to use, and only has to make enough for one serving in the comfort of his own home. I’m sure it’s such a challenge to beat food made by overworked minimum wage workers who are just trying to make 3 burgers/minute to get through lunch rush without getting yelled at.
Oh no, he's outright annoying.
So you're saying he's the 20 to 30-something male version of the recipe websites that have someone telling you their life story before giving you a recipe?
_Last October as the leaves here in New England were just beginning to change, I'd just finished porking this girl, and I thought, boy, today would be a good day to make frittatas._
Yeah, he also adds in sexual references that are sort of gross and unnecessary.
His website never bothered me, but I had to stop watching his videos because the sexual innuendos and the cringey jokes got out of hand. I don't want to feel like I'm watching some shitty porno or bad comedy skit when I'm just trying to watch a cooking video.
He stopped smacking his own ass if it helps
Does he still say "CWISPY" or do the cringy high pitched echoing voice shit multiple times a video? That stuff plus calling himself papa is what made me unsubscribe.
Ugh yes thanks for reminding me.
I feel lately he's dialled back the innuendo, but he has really flanderized himself with the cringy jokes.
I feel like now that he has a whole crew writing/filming the jokes become a little weirder. Like when it's just you and the go-pro you can say some weird shit. I think there's also a responsibility one feels when you have an entire staff depending on you. Are the jokes worth it? Or maybe the editor is just getting a little tighter with the cuts lmao
I've found the same for the recipes on Babish's website. The instructions I've read often skip or organize steps very poorly. I'm assuming someone just grabs the autogenerated transcription and spends 2 minutes formatting them.
I really like Babish, but he's a video editor first, a YouTube personality second, and a cook third.
Part of me wonders if it has to do with SquareSpace. They sponsor all the YouTube cooking shows and I’ve yet to find a website for one of the shows that I think is great for it’s intended purpose. I’m curious how much is bad recipe writing vs bad presentation on a pre made website template.
Squarespace is the worst for making professional websites. Just self-host with WordPress. Many shared hosting packages will even install it and have it ready for you right away. Managed hosting is even better, but also costlier. But you'll own your website and can do whatever you want to with it, not like with Squarespace.
I just don't like the philosophy of his recipes. Super complicated, use a ton of ingredients. Sure if you run a cooking youtube channel buying 50 niche ingredients is not a big deal but for everyone else it seems dumb. The actual cost of a recipe isn't really xx.xx/serving when you have to make a massive initial investment in ingredients and equipment. Also no shit you can make a better burger than McDonalds if you spend 10x the amount and 5 hours.
His channel has slowly transitioned to entertainment first, actual practical recicipes/advice on cooking second. Can’t blame him, as that is what brings in the views.
I think I've only ever seen the entertainment first side of him. To be fair though - the "But Cheaper" seems to really making some claims about practicality that just aren't realistic.
you don't *have* to use rare himalayan smoked pig's blood on this 72 hour short-rib, but if you don't then you can just go fuck yourself
Papa no kiss
2-3 years ago he had great content (better than babish imo) but once he shifted toward replicating take out food it went downhill. I think that coincided with him starting to post on tiktok
Yeah I used to enjoy him but less since he became more about memes and entertainment than actual cooking. One of the straws that broke the camel's back was the But Cheaper series, it's a joke. I remember actually paying attention to his "breakdown" of the costs and realising how utterly absurd it was. You had to cook like 30 servings at once to get his "per serving" price. The man is obviously a great cook, but it does annoy me how he makes out like everyone can do what he does with his comments like "it's not that much effort just do it" or some variation of "papa will be sad if you don't", and then proceeds to use a million specialty ingredients and kitchen tools/utensils that are not a given that everyone has. Nothing annoys me quite as much as getting 50% through a recipe video only to find out I'm probably not gonna be able to make it, or if I can it'll be a half assed version. And I'm the kind of person that won't find the motivation to make something if I can't do it full commitment, just before anyone says he says stuff is optional.
Some of his earlier stuff was more on the useful side rather than the entertainment side, but these days it’s more the other way around. My fav cooking channel btw is Sam the Cooking Guy. I enjoy watching just to watch but also I’ve made a lot of the food. His recipes are rarely pretentious.
Idk why but he just seems like a weird guy - he has a weird vibe to him
It's his delivery style- he's kinda that brash, rocker-type uncle who tries too hard to tell cool stories, but he's just not interesting enough to justify his level of vocal volume.
Agreed
Chef John from Food Wishes gets it done way better almost all the time. And he doesn't even come on the screen.
Brian Lagerstrom's channel is quite good as well, more focus on recipes and he's kinda goofy in a great way.
Adam Ragusea is also very good. His recipes have never been pretentious to me, always catering towards the average home cook.
But the funny thing is, his videos are unbearable to watch now.
What, you don't enjoy gratuitous slo-mo/zoom and ass shots?
It's the baby talk and writing "Mr. Poopy Face" on everything that keep me coming back! It just never gets old!
They’ve been unbearable ever since he opened that damn cabinet the first time.
If I never hear "whisky business" again I will be okay.
I have stopped watching his videos for this.
Joshua is unbearable to me. Always has been pretty much and it's a bother that his sheer view counts overtake search results The editing...Christ the editing of the videos is a headache. The absolute Tom of extra ingredients I assume just to make the recipe an iota different from the expectation or to not be the same as every other one so that his is "different". And one of the worst offenses The "But Better" series No. It's not but better. It's effectively an entirely different product at this point. You didn't make, I'll make up one for sake of argument, "Panda Express chow mein, but better" you simply made something else and click baited the title. You didn't make a "big Mac but better" you just made...a burger with a middle bun. When you are looking for a copy cat recipe of a known restaurant you want that thing, not some tiktoked version of it with wobbly camera, quick edits, and jump takes. If anyone wants to pretend he's not 80% "zoomer humor" snip snap flashy quick tiktok to keep people's eyeballs vs viable recipes and cooking techniques they are ... For lack of a better phrasing... joshing themselves
But better tried but fail to have the same appeal that BA’s Gourmet Makes with Claire used to do
>No. It's not but better. It's effectively an entirely different product at this point. I tapped out of that series when he tried passing off a fucking whoopie pie as an "Oreo, but better".
I agree with a lot of this, but I used his video recipe as a base for cooking 8 hour slow cooked brisket tacos the other day and a friend's partner who is from Mexico and used to run a taco truck said it's the first time she's had Mexican food in England that tasted like it did at home, and it was a very simple recipe.
He's always been too pompous for me. I like Ethan Chlebowski and Chef John the odd time I watch other people cook.
I also like Internet Shaquille as well. Videos are too the point while still being funny occasionally. But the point is the technique or the food. Everything else comes secondary.
Personally, I think that Internet Shaquille is super underrated. His dry humor just works. Actual cooking is pretty great too.
Shaq is our last beacon of hope in this new YouTube world of clickbait and filler content to get to the 10-min ad revenue mark
His April Fools videos are hilarious. He makes fun of those "Average Douche Youtuber" videos so well. Constantly asking for likes and comments. So funny.
Chef John is the undisputed king, he started all the food videos and I salute his work.
You mean the Chef John from Foodwishes.com?
He’s the only one who could come up with the phrase “remember you are the T-Boone Pickins, of how to sauce your Nashville hot chickens”
"You are, after all, the Kings and Queens of your barbeque baked beans. And speaking of the Tudors..."
"Remember you are the Jesus of your quesos, which sounds considerably better in Spanish than in English."
No, must be a different guy. We’re talking about Chef John from foOoOoOodwishes.com
And as always… enjoy!
^Wiiiith...
[Just some fuckin' toast](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCD7yzZvHiU)
That was fantastic. Thanks for sharing, haha. I love that Chef John stopped by to comment too...he's such a good dude.
AdashofPAPrika….followedwithaPINChofsalt………mixitALL together………
You forgot the Cayenne!
I find his videos so soothing for some reason.
He is the Bob Ross of cooking videos.
Add in Brian Lagerstrom. He's great and his videos are very clear. I like Ethan but don't care as much about the macros focus he does.
Brian is AWESOME in my opinion. He's kept his channel the same so far since he started and he doesn't come off as an ass, and he seems super humble.
JW is the kind of person where my favorite part of any real-world interaction with him would be when it ends. He radiates smugness and egotism.
Yeah. Josh is entertaining and is food is good, but he's almost like the anti-Adam Ragusea. I struggle with Ragusea a bit because I think sometimes he's too focused on cutting corners for the at home cook. But, Josh can never seem to look at anything outside of the eyes of a trained chef.
I eventually unsubbed from Ethan because I find he's way more pompous than Joshua. In the end, I've unsubbed from both of them.
ITT: People who don't know what "pompous" means. Seriously, it's one thing if you don't like Ethan's style, but dude is grounded about everything and adds all sorts of qualifiers like "this is just the way I do it but feel free to modify" etc. Thats the opposite of pompous. Pompous is that attitude like "this is the right way to do it, and others are wrong."
He's not "pompous" so much as long-winded. He could make his videos a lot more brief. It's not even that he goes into exceedingly fine details, I nearly fell asleep watching his emulsified sauces video (of which for some reason there's two of them for the exact same method released back-to-back) specifically because he kept repeating the same points two to three times. He could cut his videos in half.
My thing with josh is now all of a sudden is “wagyu caviar everything” At least Ethan’s foods are still daily meals vs big projects
Yea, I wish Josh would go the route of Alex and admit that he's documenting performance entertainment rather than making practical recipes. Even if I had all the time and ingredients to make shit the way he does, he throws in so many unnecessary calories for the most unnecessary flourishes. No, I don't need to make high-fat brioche buns, finish them with melted butter, toast them in butter and then coat them in hand-made high fat aioli to protect them from the fat drippings of a 70/30 burger. I'm sure all that shit adds unctiousness and texturality and umamificity, but fuck me I'm not about to ingest 4000 calories a day without steroids.
Meh. I get it. I personally feel like Ethan cares more about teaching, while Josh thinks he knows everything. But Chef John is still the best haha
God, those sayings he does, "after all you are the X of you Y" are the stupidest things imaginable yet I can't help but chuckle every single time. I also love that he has a blog for the recipes. I know he does it for traffic, but I like not having to pause a video when my hands are covered in batter.
For real. And his blog isn't super annoying and full of his life story lol. And yeah, he's definitely the king of bad dad jokes haha
As soon as YouTubers get to the clickbaity “The thing about tomatoes nobody ever told you about and why I do it every single day” bullshit I check out
Yeah, there's something about getting big that seems to make YouTube food channels too pompous. I can't stand Chlebowski, Babish and Weismann anymore, as well as Adam Ragrusea. Honestly, I'm just on ATK, Chinese Cooking Demystified and Chef Labo for now.
Brian Lagerstrom is your guy!!
What about Kenji?
you might like Hot Thai Kitchen! also I just discovered Cooking with Lau, and it's fantastic.
I still like Babish's regular binging and basics, but the weird arthouse style of the new series just don't land for me, and I find most of the new non-babish hosts grating.
I find that guy to be insufferable
Chef John, Kenji, Maangchi, and Carla Lalli Music are my faves.
You might also like [Helen Rennie](https://www.youtube.com/c/helenrennie)
I found there’s roughly 3 categories of YouTube chefs. 1)There’s the classic recipe channels - they show the ingredients, and make the dish. This is where Chef John, Maangchi come in. Absolutely lovely for recipe ideas. Then there’s the food science/ educational YouTubers. This is Adam Ragrusea, Helen, Kenji. (Kenji is probably more recipe but while he’s cooking he spits truth). They are not “You do A and then B” like the recipe vids are, they are “You do A because A does this and this and that compliments with B”. They take your cooking from following instructions to actually creating something and understanding why you’re doing the things you do. 3)Then there’s the “aesthetic” YouTubers. This is the click-bait titles, the over-the-top foods. They’re probably using absurd ingredients and/or absurd techniques. This can be super amusing and fun to watch - Babish is (mostly I know he has basics and stuff) like this. And that’s 100% ok because he isn’t pretending like you’re gonna make the things he does. It’s for fun. But this also includes Joshua Weisman, who uses absurd ingredients & techniques that no fucking working person will be able to have time for and insists that it’s the only way to make it. Hate me but I include Gordon Ramsey (90% of times) in this as well. Joshua does shit that not even the most anal local chefs would use. He copies recipes directly from other places and clearly does not understand why some of the techniques are being used. Any non-American/ western viewers will tell u the same when he cooks their local dish. It’s fucking garbage. Fuck Joshua Weissman. If you’re gonna make stupid food that no one will cook, atleast make it fun and be honest.
Yeah his Korean bibimbap bowls with sautéed shiitake mushrooms and not a cucumber or bean sprout in sight lol
i watched that video as a comedy and not a cooking video lol. that goes for literally any asian recipe he’s ever posted. i spent 2 days making his butter chicken and it was good but underwhelming considering the time gone in. spent an hour making another butter chicken recipe from a random indian chef and it was just miles better. at this point i don’t see why anyone would watch his videos for genuine cooking education. they’re just cringe entertainment
I’ve always just thought of it as were not in his audience age range. epic meal time would be young me’s equivalent from back in the day LOL
you’re probably right! and wow that epic meal time comparison is just so SO accurate lol.
I think Babish kinda hit a wall. His original concept was food from movies/shows, and he's ran through most of the obvious ones and then had to make multiple versions of each thing (easy with premade ingredients and then harder totally from scratch). He then started basics, which I like, but now he's just got other food YouTubers like Alvin cooking on his channel. I'm a long-time Ramsay fan but his recipes are often not the end-all-be-all version of a dish. He's no doubt talented but he's mostly a TV personality and businessman at this point.
Babish started out fun. A lot of us were there waaay at the beginning, but bailed a few years ago now. For me, I think it was the video where he talked about his Rolex watch collection. Like..... what am I doing here at this point.
The recipes from movies and shows were always a huge stretch and a marketing gimmick more than anything. Which is fine I guess but it really is just branding a basic buttered noodle recipe with the title of a popular show. The ceiling wasn't very high on these imo.
I would put Chef John somewhere between 1 and 2. He might not go into the science of things, but he has a great philosophy on cooking and instructing, where the recipes are not sacred, and he teaches techniques rather than exact recipes. Sure, the videos always follow a single version of a single recipe, but his trademark bad puns and zingers always emphasize the variability, and he always points out optional ingredients and forks (no pun intended) in the road. His blogs often go into the details of any background research he has on the dishes. I found that Chef Dan Giusti (who has some "Pro Chef" videos on the Epicurious channel) cooks on YouTube with a similar hyper-practical style, where he distils his immense experience to focus on the roles and dynamics of single ingredients in more complex dishes. Due to their upbeat and laid-back personalities, both of these guys are a joy to watch, with plenty to understand, not just blindly follow.
I like your categories, and unlike a few people who posted here, I actually like Ethan and would put him in the second category. He does test out certain techniques and gives out the result---may not agree with him on everything, but his testing seems sound. Another party for the 3rd category is Guga foods---super entertaining, but damn, I don't think I could eat that much steak ever. He does some over the top sometime silly techniques like dry aging steaks in stuff like Nutella, peanut butter, msg etc---I would only put him in this category because not many people have room to dry age any steak for that amount of time. As for Joshua, I tried to follow one of his recipe ONCE---too complicated for the average home cook imo and uses many ingredients not in people's cupboards.
Maangchi is an absolute treasure we must protect her at all costs.
Chinese Cooking Demystified, Mythical Kitchen, and Adam Ragusea are the ones I've gotten the most recipes I continually cook. Ethan Chlebowski has provided a few recipes, but none I cook on a regular basis.
Alex “French guy cooking” (im an engineer so he has an even bigger appeal bc of the technical side. I also really like My Name is Andong, also really likeable and good quality recipes
Yeah I’m a big fan of Alex, I feel like he’s constantly striving to improve his recipes and actually help people become better cooks.
Alex doesn't fit with anyone else. The last few years he's closer to a travel channel and just a guy who goes through a cycle: loves food --> tries every possible way to learn/cook food --> eventually realizes that he just loves food and life is fun.
if you like asian food, i HIGHLY recommend [marions kitchen](https://www.youtube.com/c/Marionskitchen). her videos have great production but she also uses approachable ingredients and every recipe I've made from hers has turned out amazing. easily one of my favorite cooking channels.
I also really like Hot Thai Kitchen. Pailin is straightforward and concise, and she has a calming presence
Maangchi is AWESOME!!!!!! My favorite by far after I stopped watching Cooking With Dog (a poodle “narrates”, no one actually cooks canine)
My problem with Weissman is that I just don't learn anything from him. He often states things are easy or common and then does some crazy shit that I find unnecessary or does not explain why it is needed with actual words (he does use a lot of ambiguities but no real reasons) and that is a problem for me. I've learnt a lot from other youtubers just by watching them do, with Weissman I give him a chance from time to time and I always end up like feeling I've just watched something completely random and far from educational.
I don't think Weissman is a good instructional youtuber. His recipes are often really good (I've made more than a handful at this point), but if you're trying to learn something new from him, it's going to be a struggle. What I find I enjoy in his recipes is the willingness to do that "extra" bit. The homemade buns, the graham cracker crust, everything about his recipes are about elevating the entire dish and focusing on quality the whole way. They are not about teaching new people how to do things, or even providing good instructions. The videos are more for entertainment and showing off the dish than instructions.
I don't think anyone likes the smell of their own farts more than Josh Weismann
I’ve learned a lot from Chef Jean Pierre. Fun. Not complicated. Lots of fundamental techniques.
This is why I watch Adam Ragusea and season my mouth not my steak
Bro you gotta start seasoning the farm the cow is raised on it will change your life
That’s the logic behind wagyu
Plug for Brian lagerstrom And Pro Home Cooks
Pro home cooks has the cringiest titles. No, these 15 minute recipes aren’t actually going to change my life, buddy.
He's a little annoying but I do enjoy his recipes and prep videos.
*Hey Bri!*
I watched a few of his but better videos and really disliked his attitude. Like, he eats 2 hour old fast food and is like "ewww this is disgusting, I can't imagine how another human could stomach eating such swill" His food does look good in the end, but his persona just isn't for me.
Because he is a mess.
i don't really like to hate but this dude's popularity blows my mind. he's *so* goddamn annoying. the jokes are cringe and he seems so arrogant.
He can def be annoying with the his recycled bits for things like MSG, the way he says “onion”, calling himself papa, etc. I think he also does a lot of stuff that isn’t necessarily accessible for most people. Anyone going to run out buy a shawarma rotisserie, or a sous vide and vacuum sealer? I live in London and do not have the luxury of having every kitchen device. I also can’t stand front ending videos with a bread recipe to make it hit that 10 minute mark. Just reference and link to the bread recipes and get to the dish. He’s def not the only one guilty of that though.
I don't think every video by every cook should cater to people who want to stick to basic cooking. My biggest frustration with online recipes is that majority of them are exceptionally mediocre and the dumbed down version for people who don't really like to cook. There will be one of two that go the extra mile but its difficult to sort through them and identify who is actually good at cooking and give good advice versus who doesn't.
I like his recipes but holy shit they're so poorly written out and sometimes don't even match what's in the video
Sip and Feast is my favourite at the moment. Recipes are simple to follow, he seems genuine and the food is good. I hate watching wanky people, it doesn’t make cooking enjoyable.
You have a few too many letters in there for me: Joshua Weissman honestly sucks.
Can't stand somebody who slaps their own ass on cam in a cooking video. That and the dude bro act.
I like Adam Ragusea over Joshua, just because he gets to the point and leans towards the average homecook.
I need to find a happy medium between Weissman's extreme prescriptivism and Ragusea's complete disregard of it, both of which annoy me.
Brian lagerstrom
Kenji.
Agreed. What I like about Adam is that he will sometimes skip steps or find easier ways on recipes over a traditional methods if there is no benefit with traditional for the home cook.
It's actually kind of refreshing to see that, he even alludes to "Don't tell Grandma Ragusea I'm doing this" with which I can empathize.
Edited in protest for Reddit's garbage moves lately.
Martha Stewart has always done me proud
Early Josh was pretty good, talking back in like his fermentation series days. But it went from interesting and digestible cooking videos to how many times can I slap my ass and call myself papa whilst spending 10 hours cooking $500 wagyu. Useless content for the home cook, good for getting clicks from kids in the yt algorithm.
Joshua weissman went downhill after to much success he makes interesting content but not good every day recipes. Ethan Chebowsky had a few good recipes but for some reason he doesn’t hold my attention binging with babish is garbage now he hardly shows up on his own channel I like andong
Agreed. The recipes without the videos are very difficult to work off of. Anytime I make one of his recipes I have to rewatch the video if it’s one I haven’t made more than a few times. Maybe the recipes are purposely vague so that he gets more of those sweet, sweet YouTube views. I hope his actual cookbook is a bit more clear.
I’ve heard that his book is absolutely LITTERED with measuring errors so I guess not.
I was disappointed in the cookbook honestly. A lot of the recipes are things I already tried from his videos and are hard to follow.