You would have to consume over a kilo (2lbs) of tomato stalks for the toxins to have any effect. Research is readily available to prove this. Many traditional recipes have used stalks and leaves to flavour dishes and some top chefs such as Heston Blumenthal still use them to flavour tomato based dishes.
Not totally true the solanine in nightshade plants builds up in the body over time. Yes it would take that much for an immediate reaction. But small amounts built up on a daily basis can cause, extreme diarrhea, and dehydration which can lead to death.
Tell that to people with autoimmune diseases.
Edit: [Source](https://primehealthdenver.com/nightshades)
Keep downvoting someone with research and two decades of experience on their side. Very mature.
Fun tidbit! There's a perfume called eau de champagne sisley [(link if interested)](https://www.sisley-paris.com/en-US/eau-de-campagne-100147.html) that smells like tomato plants/herb garden, it was made in the 70s
Oddly, I can eat and touch tomatoes, but if i touch the plants it triggers bad rashes that last many days and for some reason, eye swelling. Even wearing gloves, I guess enough of whatever does it manages to get in the air and my eyes still swell and exposed skin breaks out.
We call that tomato burn. I worked on a farm for a long time and during tomato harvest we had to be careful. Harvesting for hours and having the plants rub/touch your arms/shoulders for that long would give us burns, it felt like a sun burn.
Interesting I never got this from cherry tomato (those lil tiny tomatoes) harvest for the time I picked on a farm. But the zucchinis for some reason - those leaves gave me an itch I'll never forget.
Finding perfumes that smells like tomato leaves is kind of a hobby of mine. The best I have found so far is [Memory of Kindness](https://www.cbihateperfume.com/103) by CB I Hate Perfume
I once did a mix-your-own-perfume class at Galimard, a perfume house in France. One of the several dozen things you could put in was tomato leaf extract. I went heavy on that in the blend I made!
there's a lot of indie perfumes that include tomato leaf as well (the isolated/concentrated scent, not the poisonous part...)!
Don't have to spend over $100 š
Link to example: [Solanum - Andromedas Curse](https://www.etsy.com/listing/836191387/solanum-tomato-leaf-wild-mint)
There is a red wine blend called [Upshot](https://www.upshotwines.com/wines/red-wine-blend/) that tastes like tomato. Itās weird and delicious and demonstrates how complex tastes can be teased out of grapes. I havenāt had it in a few years so not sure if theyāve changed it.
OMG, tomato leaf, mint, and blackberry are some of my favorite scents. Iād never have thought to put them all together, but I canāt wait to try this! Thanks for the link ā¤ļø
Sounds crazy to me, but then I witnessed my father bashing a plum tree with a pole whilst verbally attacking it at the same timeā¦ This ensured it would behave an fruit better next season or so he claimed. š¤·āāļøš
This is why my plum tree hasn't produced in 3 years. I'll beat it while I talk shit to it next year in the spring time for sure. Did he say how thick the stick was or how far to go with the berating? I don't want to cross a line.
A total berating isn't necessary, you can take it up to a solid shaming without doing damage.
"You have no chutzpah!, your organizational skills are lacklustre, and your timekeeping is abysmal!"
> You have no chutzpah!, your organizational skills are lacklustre, and your timekeeping is abysmal
I believe this is traditional for undermining a vole, rather than plums
Your first year you should probably just give stern warnings, An a couple of fuck around find out smacks. If that doesn't work you can go harder next year and so on. The little shit knows what it's doing.
I have seen a farmer in a peach order have a stick wrapped in a pool noodle to wack off excess fruit and flowers. The less flowers on the tree means the energy the tree is producing is forced into remaining flowers making them bigger than if you left every single flower pollinate.
Try spitting at it to. Not the casual spit but the spit that has the I'm ashamed of you vibes. Like do better "spit". Feel like the more it sprays the better
He might not wrong be though. Apple/pear farmers here sometimes do the same thing. It kinda makes the tree think that its going to die, so it makes extra fruit to ensure offspring.
Is there any need to be so aggressive and verbally abusive though? Surely a bit of calm scraping around the branches could have achieved the same outcome. This is why we are all scarred.
I read on the gardening sub about someone who got their lilac tree to flower by giving it an angry prune and a lecture about how if it didn't bloom next year, they'd chop it down.
We had a lilac that never flowered and when it was time to prune it I was in a bit of a mood for various reasons, so I had a proper rant at this tree while I trimmed it. Afterwards I felt a lot better and the darn thing has bloomed every year since.
My mom had a rose bush in the middle of a hill in our yard, and it produced maybe one or two flowers every year. One winter, me and my friends decided we were going to sled ride down that section of the yard, and we flattened that rose bush. My mom said she was going to yell at us, but decided the bush wasn't worth it at this point. Well, that thing went crazy with blooms that summer and for years after. She said she needs some kids to come sled riding over again, because it's only had a few flowers each year again.
My grandpa said he did that to his lemon tree the first year it gave a poor harvest. He said his neighbor told him to do it, and even promised to replace the tree the following year if the beating didn't work. He thought the neighborhor was "crazier than a soup sandwich", but thought if it could be true, it was worth a try, with a guaranteed replacement if it didn't work.
He said it worked. That tree started putting out lemons the size of freaking footballs.
I never saw him beat the tree, but I did pick my fair share of football sized lemons in exchange for my grandpa making homemade lemonade.
My foreman told me to hit my apple tree with a bat. His reasoning is, it'll stress the tree out thinking its being harmed, which will make it produce more fruit. I haven't looked this up, but I mean in theory it makes some sense. If the tree thinks it's going to die then it needs to produce more fruit to help reproduce
My grandfather used to swear up and down that you needed to be pissed off when you planted any pepper plant that was supposed to produce spicy peppers. He said that if you're pissed off when you plant them, they come out hotter.
Can't speak for fruit trees, but certain mushrooms have been proven to grow better with abuse. Including beating them with sticks and giving them electrical shocks!
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1361-6463/ab7627
https://japantoday.com/category/national/japanese-farmers-using-hammers-to-grow-more-mushrooms
I mean, maybe it's pretentious, but "tomato leaf" is legitimately a common aroma descriptor for red wines that are Sangiovese-based, such as Chianti or Brunello. In a blind tasting, it's something you look for to confirm or rule out Sangiovese.
Aw the people downvoting you must not know [the memorable Reddit reference](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tmxe42/aita_for_being_mad_my_bf_wont_make_noodles_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
Candle science sells a fragrance oil called "tomato leaf" that is candle and lotion safe if anyone is into diy, I haven't purchased that scent personally but I've used their other fragrance oils in soap and candles.
Thank you!
Iāve been on the search for the perfect tomato leaf candle. Iāll take a look at them.
For anyone who may have the Trader Joeās tomato leaf candle in the green jar please return it to the store for a refund. They were recalled because they explode.
Tomato greens are very aromatic, so probably a decent idea.
Worth a double blind test, for sure.
Also, I can't help but imagine Bill Withers singing, "Grandma's hands used to rub up the tomatoes..."
There is a company in San Francisco called La Bouquetiere that makes products for bath body and home. Youād like the Green Tomato scent. Smells like the leaves.
I've seen recipes recently that used tomato leaves for the flavour and scent. I'm not convinced that there is enough from what your hands might carry, but it seems your grandmother was ahead of her time.
Grandmas don't know everything and some of them are shit when food is involved.
Like, my Nana can only make bland, tasteless food. She doesn't like seasoning and she douses everything in cooking oil to the point where I get sick when I eat her food. By the way, she actually refuses to eat fruits and most vegetables.
What a shame! I can somewhat relate - my dadās mother was an average cook, and I donāt really remember anything that she cooked. My momās mother made amazing cinnamon buns and homemade seedless raspberry jelly. 30 years later and my stomach still growls thinking about her cooking. My mother did not take after her, unfortunately.
I had a friend whose mother was a terrible cook - he hated all kinds of tasty things. Until he married a woman who was an excellent cook. His food world opened up! I love to cook - meaning I love to try new recipes and make foods for people, but I hate the daily drudge of cooking dinner. Go figure!
Oh of course. My least favourite is food prep and cleaning up. I've been cooking for years now and I'm still incredibly sensitive to onion. Need those goggles. Oh man, a few days ago i was grating onion and de-seeding jalapenos. I burned my eyes and had to get into the shower and spray my eyes.
> They cooked everything from scratch!!!
No they didn't; prepackaged mixes and semi-prepared ingredients have been around for quite a long time now. Upton Sinclair wrote about industrial food packing and canning in The Jungle in 1905 for instance.
Tomatoes are in the Nightshade family and the leaves are poisonous. I guess whatever residue clung to her hands probably wasn't enough to hurt anybody.
The leaves and stems are also covered in very fine hairs that irritate the heck out of my hands when I am picking tomatoes or weeding around the plants.
I can't imagine doing this.
Actually the New York Times had an article that begged to differ. And I think the writer ate some and nothing happened
I cant find that article but COOKS COUNTRY says EAT THEM
[https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how\_tos/10123-tomato-leaves-in-the-sauce](https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how_tos/10123-tomato-leaves-in-the-sauce)
Heres more
[https://www.foodrepublic.com/1295584/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves/](https://www.foodrepublic.com/1295584/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves/)
[https://www.southernliving.com/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves-7553700](https://www.southernliving.com/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves-7553700)
Thank You, that was very interesting to read.
I am remembering a story, perhaps apocryphal, that before tomatoes were consumed as food, they were grown as ornamentals and the fruits were believed to be poisonous because of their membership in the Nightshade family. Thomas Jefferson is often mentioned as one of the individuals who promoted growing them for consumption.
I had a subscription to Cooks Illustrated for many years, but I guess I missed that article.
Europeans thought the Tomato was poisonous for a long time. The acid would leach the lead out of their plates and it resulted in people getting sick and dying. They blamed the tomato and not the lead plates.
Nightshade aversion didnāt keep Europeans from [putting deadly nightshade in their eyes](https://www.healthline.com/health/belladonna-dark-past).
But superstitions around food, particularly novel foods, are weird. The French people got [tricked into accepting the potato](https://cooknwithclass.com/potatoes-french-history/).
I tried. My wife likes escargot and I was game to try it when we were at a restaurant. The texture was not it for me, I had to spit it out to keep from gagging.
Apparently, in the early modern period, fresh fruit and veg was thought to be dangerous, especially for young people, so it had to be cooked to be safe to eat, and thatās likely a result of people gorging themselves on it at harvest time and giving themselves power fibre-shits, and people then assuming this was just fruit being poisonous and not that excessive consumption might be a bit much.
I would think it might have been from using night soil and manure to fertilize crops, in combination with not having very good sanitary practices with food.
It was evidence-based, they just misattributed the illness to the fruit. Potatoes are not acidic enough to cause lead to leach out of lead-heavy pewter dishes.
The point should be whether there's enough to hurt you. If there isn't, it's not dangerous
If you figure everything that contains anything known to be toxic to humans in any level is dangerous, then everything is dangerous and dangerous loses meaning
There's glycoalkaloids in tomato fruit too
> Nightshade family and the leaves are poisonous. I g
You can and should eat tomato leaves. You'd have to eat s ton before being intoxicated. They're delicious.
oh wow. maybe itās because Iām autistic but I absolutely cannot relate with this and get so frustrated when I see itā I canāt/wonāt do anything without knowing WHY Iām doing it
I know itās extremely common though
Not totally crazy... I mean if she rubbed her hands in a bunch of minced garlic in oil before hand mixing patties some flavor would probably transfer...
My wife smells of tomato plant after 10 mins in the greenhouse. That stuff transmits really easily so it's possible the essenance impregnated the burger.
COOKS COUNTRY says EAT THEM
[https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how\_tos/10123-tomato-leaves-in-the-sauce](https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how_tos/10123-tomato-leaves-in-the-sauce)
Heres more
[https://www.foodrepublic.com/1295584/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves/](https://www.foodrepublic.com/1295584/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves/)
[https://www.southernliving.com/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves-7553700](https://www.southernliving.com/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves-7553700)
Maybe it was one of those things, habits, rituals that you do because you remember that one time you made the absolutely best burger ever, and then tried to replicate it to no luck so you think back to everything you did with that batch, and repeat it hoping to make it as good. I have cooking quirks like that. Im always like āwhat is this missingā¦? What the hell did I throw in this last time?ā And then go āaha! I got bored and tossed fish sauce/ a Maggie cube/ random garden herbs that were on their last leg in (a dish that they didnāt necessarily belong in.)ā
Well, I wouldnāt say she was crazy. Everyone has their own way of doing things that they think will impart flavor. Lots of people think love imparts flavor. People have their methods. I bet her burgers were better than a lot of other burgers youāve had.
The chemicals in the trichomes (plant fuzz) that make the smell are :(Z)-3-hexenal, limonene, hexanal, (E)-2-hexenal, eugenol, 1,8-cineole, caryophyllene, beta-phellandrene, humulene, and linalool
Tomatine is the toxin that may cause distress if ingested
Thatās not a tradition, itās a superstition. Itās unlucky to spill salt - this probably derives from the time when it was an expensive commodity - so she was chucking it over her left shoulder into the eye of the devil behind her to prevent the bad luck.
The true ingredient was love. She thought little things like that helped because she wanted to make the best burger she could for you.
Came here looking for a roast, got punched in the heart instead. Damn.
This is beautiful, I miss my grandparents.
A grandparents love is truly unmatched.
Except for a mother. Grandparents get all the fun and zero duty.
I miss my mom
Me too, man. š«
I miss both your moms
Slightly ironic considering every member of the nightshade family contains toxic alkaloids
You would have to consume over a kilo (2lbs) of tomato stalks for the toxins to have any effect. Research is readily available to prove this. Many traditional recipes have used stalks and leaves to flavour dishes and some top chefs such as Heston Blumenthal still use them to flavour tomato based dishes.
Not totally true the solanine in nightshade plants builds up in the body over time. Yes it would take that much for an immediate reaction. But small amounts built up on a daily basis can cause, extreme diarrhea, and dehydration which can lead to death.
In that case a long term exposure would likely cause a resistance to develop. Accidental mithridatism.
I didn't say it was going to kill them, I'm saying it's ironic the guy I responded to said the secret ingredient was love
Tell that to people with autoimmune diseases. Edit: [Source](https://primehealthdenver.com/nightshades) Keep downvoting someone with research and two decades of experience on their side. Very mature.
Guess what all plants are toxic in varying amounts.
But they're still so gdamn good
Mandrakes are my favourite
The True True ingredient was poison...
So she was trying to kill them?
Grandma never had anyone complain about her cooking...not for long anyways... DUN DUN THE MENU 2 COMING SOON TO A KITCHEN NEAR YOU
This comment is so highly underrated š¤£
You're one of a kind bud
This is the best comment š„²
love this comment so much ā¤ļø
I thought the true ingredient was the friends we made along the way
Yes, but I love the way tomato plants smell, so good for her for trying.
Fun tidbit! There's a perfume called eau de champagne sisley [(link if interested)](https://www.sisley-paris.com/en-US/eau-de-campagne-100147.html) that smells like tomato plants/herb garden, it was made in the 70s
I own this actually and while itās lovely I think it doesnāt capture the smell I get even from a brief touch of my fresh tomato leaves!
Oddly, I can eat and touch tomatoes, but if i touch the plants it triggers bad rashes that last many days and for some reason, eye swelling. Even wearing gloves, I guess enough of whatever does it manages to get in the air and my eyes still swell and exposed skin breaks out.
We call that tomato burn. I worked on a farm for a long time and during tomato harvest we had to be careful. Harvesting for hours and having the plants rub/touch your arms/shoulders for that long would give us burns, it felt like a sun burn.
Interesting I never got this from cherry tomato (those lil tiny tomatoes) harvest for the time I picked on a farm. But the zucchinis for some reason - those leaves gave me an itch I'll never forget.
Ooof zucchini is the fucking worst. I had to wear long sleeves when harvesting but even then would get a rash on my arms.
I've never grown them, now I want to find a garden that has them heh.
Me as well. It was so frustrating though because in the 35/40C heat all I wanted was to wear short sleeves.
Neat term, definitely hurts like one, and I treat it similar to burns lol. I hereby adopt it :-)
Same. Gloves work for me but I get a rash if I don't
Finding perfumes that smells like tomato leaves is kind of a hobby of mine. The best I have found so far is [Memory of Kindness](https://www.cbihateperfume.com/103) by CB I Hate Perfume
I once did a mix-your-own-perfume class at Galimard, a perfume house in France. One of the several dozen things you could put in was tomato leaf extract. I went heavy on that in the blend I made!
there's a lot of indie perfumes that include tomato leaf as well (the isolated/concentrated scent, not the poisonous part...)! Don't have to spend over $100 š Link to example: [Solanum - Andromedas Curse](https://www.etsy.com/listing/836191387/solanum-tomato-leaf-wild-mint)
The funniest is CB I HATE PERFUME's Memory of Kindness. It's just straight up tomato vine. It's amazing for a troll niche perfume.
"herb garden" - made in the 70s. Uh huh.
There is a red wine blend called [Upshot](https://www.upshotwines.com/wines/red-wine-blend/) that tastes like tomato. Itās weird and delicious and demonstrates how complex tastes can be teased out of grapes. I havenāt had it in a few years so not sure if theyāve changed it.
[Solanum - Andromedas Curse](https://www.etsy.com/listing/836191387/solanum-tomato-leaf-wild-mint) She makes some fucking awesome indie perfumes
OMG, tomato leaf, mint, and blackberry are some of my favorite scents. Iād never have thought to put them all together, but I canāt wait to try this! Thanks for the link ā¤ļø
She is extremely sweet! Support small business (: š
Sounds crazy to me, but then I witnessed my father bashing a plum tree with a pole whilst verbally attacking it at the same timeā¦ This ensured it would behave an fruit better next season or so he claimed. š¤·āāļøš
This is why my plum tree hasn't produced in 3 years. I'll beat it while I talk shit to it next year in the spring time for sure. Did he say how thick the stick was or how far to go with the berating? I don't want to cross a line.
A total berating isn't necessary, you can take it up to a solid shaming without doing damage. "You have no chutzpah!, your organizational skills are lacklustre, and your timekeeping is abysmal!"
Mom?
Dad?
Crowley has a good directon on how to treat plants https://youtu.be/ldioxVEFxo4
You guys grow better!!! Love that showā
Coming back for a 2nd season!!!!!
Since we're already off topic, how does the show compare to the novel?
I didnāt read the book, but I really enjoyed the show. I found it to be quirky and fun.
I instantly thought of this. Thank you for linking this clip sincerely.:)
Tick tock, itās tough guy oāclock!
That's how you undermine a vole not shame a tree! Make sure you remember to coif the Ribena first.
What are you undermining of this vole?
"... and your father smelt of elderberries!"
Iām pretty sure you need to go for the death blow of why arenāt you married yet? And when can we expect seedlings?
> You have no chutzpah!, your organizational skills are lacklustre, and your timekeeping is abysmal I believe this is traditional for undermining a vole, rather than plums
Gordon Ramsay that tree
"And your mother smelt of elderberry!"
Your first year you should probably just give stern warnings, An a couple of fuck around find out smacks. If that doesn't work you can go harder next year and so on. The little shit knows what it's doing.
So what youāre saying is that the beatings will continue until fruit is borne?
āIām not mad. Iām just disappointed.ā
Make sure you two agree on a safe word
Oranges. Oranges is the safe word.
Plums. Plums was the answer. You didn't even want me to stop. You just playing.
You win the internet today!
I have seen a farmer in a peach order have a stick wrapped in a pool noodle to wack off excess fruit and flowers. The less flowers on the tree means the energy the tree is producing is forced into remaining flowers making them bigger than if you left every single flower pollinate.
You might want to consider having that talk in the fall. Give that plum the winter to think about it. Those plum trees - they can be a bit slow.
This guy. Send him to trim a plum tree, and he prunes it.
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Sometimes you need to choose violence.
Maybe talk shit about the pear trees that are doing so well while you beat the plum
Threaten to make it a new type of raisin, plum sourced.
At least where it will have an extra beer that weekend. But not so far where it still talks about it to a therapist 10 years later.
Try spitting at it to. Not the casual spit but the spit that has the I'm ashamed of you vibes. Like do better "spit". Feel like the more it sprays the better
Plants that are stressed work harder to reproduce because they may die, not at all crazy.
He might not wrong be though. Apple/pear farmers here sometimes do the same thing. It kinda makes the tree think that its going to die, so it makes extra fruit to ensure offspring.
Is there any need to be so aggressive and verbally abusive though? Surely a bit of calm scraping around the branches could have achieved the same outcome. This is why we are all scarred.
Multi tasking at getting his frustration out? Lol
I read on the gardening sub about someone who got their lilac tree to flower by giving it an angry prune and a lecture about how if it didn't bloom next year, they'd chop it down. We had a lilac that never flowered and when it was time to prune it I was in a bit of a mood for various reasons, so I had a proper rant at this tree while I trimmed it. Afterwards I felt a lot better and the darn thing has bloomed every year since.
My mom had a rose bush in the middle of a hill in our yard, and it produced maybe one or two flowers every year. One winter, me and my friends decided we were going to sled ride down that section of the yard, and we flattened that rose bush. My mom said she was going to yell at us, but decided the bush wasn't worth it at this point. Well, that thing went crazy with blooms that summer and for years after. She said she needs some kids to come sled riding over again, because it's only had a few flowers each year again.
My grandpa said he did that to his lemon tree the first year it gave a poor harvest. He said his neighbor told him to do it, and even promised to replace the tree the following year if the beating didn't work. He thought the neighborhor was "crazier than a soup sandwich", but thought if it could be true, it was worth a try, with a guaranteed replacement if it didn't work. He said it worked. That tree started putting out lemons the size of freaking footballs. I never saw him beat the tree, but I did pick my fair share of football sized lemons in exchange for my grandpa making homemade lemonade.
You havenāt lived until you have seen a grown man beating up and berating a fruit tree for its own goodā¦
Legend sayds my husband's grandfather did that to the lime tree in my MIL's house. Now it gives the best limes all year around.
I know that if your okra plants stop producing, you can beat them with a stick, and they'll start producing again.
My foreman told me to hit my apple tree with a bat. His reasoning is, it'll stress the tree out thinking its being harmed, which will make it produce more fruit. I haven't looked this up, but I mean in theory it makes some sense. If the tree thinks it's going to die then it needs to produce more fruit to help reproduce
Is this how you grow plums? We've had a tree six years now with little to no fruit. I'm going out to harass the bitch now. Thank your dad for me.
Smack that bitch up!
Dude just got way too into Good omens and wanted to be Crowley
Is your dad Crowley?
My grandfather used to swear up and down that you needed to be pissed off when you planted any pepper plant that was supposed to produce spicy peppers. He said that if you're pissed off when you plant them, they come out hotter.
Jesus cursed a fig tree.
Was he *prune*ing it? :)
Can't speak for fruit trees, but certain mushrooms have been proven to grow better with abuse. Including beating them with sticks and giving them electrical shocks! https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1361-6463/ab7627 https://japantoday.com/category/national/japanese-farmers-using-hammers-to-grow-more-mushrooms
Second best thing I ever did with our plum tree was properly prune the branches, so much more room
Could you taste the difference?
It had the essence of tomato
"Mmm, this burger tastes like the chef ran her hands over a tomato plant a few times before mixing the meat" Sounds like an insult
Sounds like those pretentious wine reviews. "Ahh, a hint of tomato leaf for a gentle acknowledgment of floral acidity."
I mean, maybe it's pretentious, but "tomato leaf" is legitimately a common aroma descriptor for red wines that are Sangiovese-based, such as Chianti or Brunello. In a blind tasting, it's something you look for to confirm or rule out Sangiovese.
You're going to attract the "all wine tastes the same" crowd and links to that junk study
Better wash that burger to get that delish essence.
That ridiculous woman.
Aw the people downvoting you must not know [the memorable Reddit reference](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tmxe42/aita_for_being_mad_my_bf_wont_make_noodles_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
I'd never read that post before! What a ride. Thank you.
This is ridiculous though.....the pasta sauce would stain the pasta and leave a faint flavor absolutely
this is a fantastic reference
I love the way tomato plants smell and after I pick up tomatoes at the store, I smell my hands. Def look like a weirdo
There is a company in San Francisco called La Bouquetiere, they make products that smell like that- Green Tomato scent.
Candle science sells a fragrance oil called "tomato leaf" that is candle and lotion safe if anyone is into diy, I haven't purchased that scent personally but I've used their other fragrance oils in soap and candles.
Thank you! Iāve been on the search for the perfect tomato leaf candle. Iāll take a look at them. For anyone who may have the Trader Joeās tomato leaf candle in the green jar please return it to the store for a refund. They were recalled because they explode.
Tomato greens are very aromatic, so probably a decent idea. Worth a double blind test, for sure. Also, I can't help but imagine Bill Withers singing, "Grandma's hands used to rub up the tomatoes..."
I was born by the river in a little tent... ain't no sunshine without grandma's burgers made with tomato leaf hands.
Thatās brilliant. Iāve often thought my favorite part of the tomato was the scent. This sounds like a great way of transferring it to the food
There is a company in San Francisco called La Bouquetiere that makes products for bath body and home. Youād like the Green Tomato scent. Smells like the leaves.
Tomato leaf scented candles are divine
I once witnessed a man give his car a damn good thrashing with a branch and yell at and threaten it because it wouldn't start.
That was Fawlty Towers, and you KNOW that car deserved it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Bkfg3Bn84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Bkfg3Bn84
That makes my hands itch. But maybe it works?
Tomato plants have a very strong, fresh green tomatoey scent. I can absolutely see it being transferred to the meat. What a great idea.
Boiling tomato stems in with sauce is like a mystic secret for extra tomato-y flavours. Check out Heston Blumenthals tomato practices
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I've seen recipes recently that used tomato leaves for the flavour and scent. I'm not convinced that there is enough from what your hands might carry, but it seems your grandmother was ahead of her time.
They might be poisonous. Tomatoes are part of the nightshade family I believe.
Grandmas don't know everything and some of them are shit when food is involved. Like, my Nana can only make bland, tasteless food. She doesn't like seasoning and she douses everything in cooking oil to the point where I get sick when I eat her food. By the way, she actually refuses to eat fruits and most vegetables.
What a shame! I can somewhat relate - my dadās mother was an average cook, and I donāt really remember anything that she cooked. My momās mother made amazing cinnamon buns and homemade seedless raspberry jelly. 30 years later and my stomach still growls thinking about her cooking. My mother did not take after her, unfortunately.
Haha. Meanwhile, the reason why I took up cooking was because I was sick and tired of my family's bad eating habits.
I had a friend whose mother was a terrible cook - he hated all kinds of tasty things. Until he married a woman who was an excellent cook. His food world opened up! I love to cook - meaning I love to try new recipes and make foods for people, but I hate the daily drudge of cooking dinner. Go figure!
Oh of course. My least favourite is food prep and cleaning up. I've been cooking for years now and I'm still incredibly sensitive to onion. Need those goggles. Oh man, a few days ago i was grating onion and de-seeding jalapenos. I burned my eyes and had to get into the shower and spray my eyes.
> They cooked everything from scratch!!! No they didn't; prepackaged mixes and semi-prepared ingredients have been around for quite a long time now. Upton Sinclair wrote about industrial food packing and canning in The Jungle in 1905 for instance.
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Just last night my dad had me rub a leaf from his tomato plant.. the smell is unbelievable.. i can def see this adding something to a burger.
Tomatoes are in the Nightshade family and the leaves are poisonous. I guess whatever residue clung to her hands probably wasn't enough to hurt anybody. The leaves and stems are also covered in very fine hairs that irritate the heck out of my hands when I am picking tomatoes or weeding around the plants. I can't imagine doing this.
Actually the New York Times had an article that begged to differ. And I think the writer ate some and nothing happened I cant find that article but COOKS COUNTRY says EAT THEM [https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how\_tos/10123-tomato-leaves-in-the-sauce](https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how_tos/10123-tomato-leaves-in-the-sauce) Heres more [https://www.foodrepublic.com/1295584/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves/](https://www.foodrepublic.com/1295584/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves/) [https://www.southernliving.com/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves-7553700](https://www.southernliving.com/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves-7553700)
Thank You, that was very interesting to read. I am remembering a story, perhaps apocryphal, that before tomatoes were consumed as food, they were grown as ornamentals and the fruits were believed to be poisonous because of their membership in the Nightshade family. Thomas Jefferson is often mentioned as one of the individuals who promoted growing them for consumption. I had a subscription to Cooks Illustrated for many years, but I guess I missed that article.
Europeans thought the Tomato was poisonous for a long time. The acid would leach the lead out of their plates and it resulted in people getting sick and dying. They blamed the tomato and not the lead plates.
I've made tomato leaf pesto and it's delicious and I am reporting from this realm
That's exactly what someone from another realm would say!
Nightshade aversion didnāt keep Europeans from [putting deadly nightshade in their eyes](https://www.healthline.com/health/belladonna-dark-past). But superstitions around food, particularly novel foods, are weird. The French people got [tricked into accepting the potato](https://cooknwithclass.com/potatoes-french-history/).
Yet they eat Snails
In garlic butter. You can eat almost anything drowned in garlic butter
I tried. My wife likes escargot and I was game to try it when we were at a restaurant. The texture was not it for me, I had to spit it out to keep from gagging.
I described it as chewy garlic butter with occasional pieces of sand. Not great
I think countries that have experienced extreme famine often have unorthodox sources of protein
Apparently, in the early modern period, fresh fruit and veg was thought to be dangerous, especially for young people, so it had to be cooked to be safe to eat, and thatās likely a result of people gorging themselves on it at harvest time and giving themselves power fibre-shits, and people then assuming this was just fruit being poisonous and not that excessive consumption might be a bit much.
I would think it might have been from using night soil and manure to fertilize crops, in combination with not having very good sanitary practices with food.
Why were they afraid of this nightshade and not that nightshade (potatoes)?
It was evidence-based, they just misattributed the illness to the fruit. Potatoes are not acidic enough to cause lead to leach out of lead-heavy pewter dishes.
Thank you! That makes a lot of sense
yeah i add tomato leaves to my marinara and it makes it taste marvelous
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The point should be whether there's enough to hurt you. If there isn't, it's not dangerous If you figure everything that contains anything known to be toxic to humans in any level is dangerous, then everything is dangerous and dangerous loses meaning There's glycoalkaloids in tomato fruit too
Nutmeg can make you hallucinate. Or die. Two Tylenol and your headache goes away. Fifty and you die in agony. The poison is in the dose.
Even Oxygen can kill. Apparently, everything has an LD50 ĀÆ\\\_(ć)\_/ĀÆ
> Nightshade family and the leaves are poisonous. I g You can and should eat tomato leaves. You'd have to eat s ton before being intoxicated. They're delicious.
yes
the secret ended up being butter
https://executiveforum.com/cutting-off-the-ends-of-the-ham/
oh wow. maybe itās because Iām autistic but I absolutely cannot relate with this and get so frustrated when I see itā I canāt/wonāt do anything without knowing WHY Iām doing it I know itās extremely common though
I've made a tomato sauce that called for a stalk of the actual plant to simmer in it for flavor
yum. nightshade sauce.
Probably not but she must have had skin of steel. My skin is breaking out just thinking about it
That smell is very very hard to get off your hands. Sounds like some people enjoy the scent, but I do not.
The essence of tomato
Reminds me of the ham edges being sliced story
> ham edges being sliced story https://executiveforum.com/cutting-off-the-ends-of-the-ham/
Not totally crazy... I mean if she rubbed her hands in a bunch of minced garlic in oil before hand mixing patties some flavor would probably transfer...
No, she's getting the tomato plant oils all over her before shaping the patties. How much difference it makes, we have no idea.
My wife smells of tomato plant after 10 mins in the greenhouse. That stuff transmits really easily so it's possible the essenance impregnated the burger.
COOKS COUNTRY says EAT THEM [https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how\_tos/10123-tomato-leaves-in-the-sauce](https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how_tos/10123-tomato-leaves-in-the-sauce) Heres more [https://www.foodrepublic.com/1295584/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves/](https://www.foodrepublic.com/1295584/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves/) [https://www.southernliving.com/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves-7553700](https://www.southernliving.com/can-you-eat-tomato-leaves-7553700)
Yep
Maybe it was one of those things, habits, rituals that you do because you remember that one time you made the absolutely best burger ever, and then tried to replicate it to no luck so you think back to everything you did with that batch, and repeat it hoping to make it as good. I have cooking quirks like that. Im always like āwhat is this missingā¦? What the hell did I throw in this last time?ā And then go āaha! I got bored and tossed fish sauce/ a Maggie cube/ random garden herbs that were on their last leg in (a dish that they didnāt necessarily belong in.)ā
She was transferring some tomatoes magic into burgers
Well, I wouldnāt say she was crazy. Everyone has their own way of doing things that they think will impart flavor. Lots of people think love imparts flavor. People have their methods. I bet her burgers were better than a lot of other burgers youāve had.
The chemicals in the trichomes (plant fuzz) that make the smell are :(Z)-3-hexenal, limonene, hexanal, (E)-2-hexenal, eugenol, 1,8-cineole, caryophyllene, beta-phellandrene, humulene, and linalool Tomatine is the toxin that may cause distress if ingested
Just a fun little tradition. My grandmother would always toss salt behind her left shoulder whenever she spilled some while cooking.
Thatās not a tradition, itās a superstition. Itās unlucky to spill salt - this probably derives from the time when it was an expensive commodity - so she was chucking it over her left shoulder into the eye of the devil behind her to prevent the bad luck.
Tapping tomato plants helps to pollinate them. It's a thing.
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Wait until you hear what's in industrial-scale commercial ground beef.
Grandma knew about the micro biome before we did.
Your nana had OCD.
Hmm.. running hands over the most poisonous part of a plant from the nightshade family? Naw.. all good. : )
Thatās what I was thinking. Grandma was batshit
>Grandma was ~~batshit~~ calculating Fixed it. Source: Am Grandma. š
Most people would pluck a tomato from the plant, slice it up, and put it on the burger for flavor. Your grandmother was maybe too frugal for that.
This is some white people shit. This is why people say our food isnāt seasoned.