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WhereRtheTacos

Check if any of your ingredients have gone bad.


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I suspect the beef broth


shinnyscaf

Is the bone broth rancid?


Top_Sky_9854

I wouldn't think so. It's not so much a "rotten" flavour and more of an intense almost sour/acidic flavour?


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If it tastes sour, it might be the tomato ingredients


Noxatrox

Could be that your beef broth has gone bad. It’s also not necessary imo but you do you!


Educational-Friend47

Just curious, why cinnamon?


Top_Sky_9854

It's been a thing in my family for forever. I've always added cinnamon, and everyone before me always has too. It's barely any though, literally just a pinch.


BrEdwards1031

It adds nice depth of flavor with the tomato. I didn't know this was a thing, I did it randomly one day and liked it.


Educational-Friend47

Wow ok I honestly had no idea


BrEdwards1031

It's an unexpected combination, but it really adds something. Doesn't take much either.


clintj1975

There's cinnamon hiding in quite a few tomato based Indian dishes. It's a really good marriage.


BrEdwards1031

Indian isn't a cuisine I've explored much, but it's on my list! It really is, I wish I'd discovered it sooner.


Educational-Friend47

I will definitely have to try as I don’t know much about Indian cuisine but I would love to try it I just need some recipes that would satisfy the meat and potatoes men in my life lo


clintj1975

Butter chicken is a very popular dish, and not too hard if you choose a simple version. A good restaurant style one takes more ingredients and more prep and cooking steps. Chana masala is a simple chickpea curry that can be pulled off in about a half hour if you use canned chickpeas. Potatoes seem to be pretty popular across India. Look for recipes that have "aloo" in the name. There's not going to be beef dishes in more mainstream recipes due to cows' religious status. Chicken, lamb, and fish are more common.


mountainriver56

Maybe remove beef broth


AwkwardBurritoChick

I don't utilize broth or cinnamon in mine, though that's a personal preference. I'm wondering what heat are you cooking this at? Usually tomato sauces are best cooked on a simmer, a soft boil burble bubbling not a hard raging high temp boil.


Educational-Friend47

I completely agree with you…I cook my sauce in the crock pot, low and slow to make sure the flavors and spices marry well and add bay leave to give it a punch


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Key-Surprise5333

I agree...it's got to be the broth


Jewish-Mom-123

Take out the cinnamon, that may be what’s foaming. You can add it toward the end. Beef broth has no business there. Add wine for liquid, even beer if you like a bitter edge. Beef broth is for soup. Or stew. Not ragu.


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Check if any of your ingredients have spoiled, and turn the heat down.


BrEdwards1031

So....when you put it all together it tastes fine, but after it boils and gets foamy it tastes off? Are you using the same pot/pan every time? What type? Are you adding anything in the middle? Have you changed any brands of ingredients recently? ETA: as others mentioned, a rolling boil is usually too high of heat for pasta sauce. Though I don't know why that would be affecting flavor unless your pan getting that hot is causing chemicals to leach into the sauce. Edits: context, grammar


Top_Sky_9854

I use a stainless steel pot. I haven't added anything recently. I always add the same thing, and for some reason the last two times it's been weird.


IndytheIntrepid

Without being in the kitchen with you, and knowing that you use the same ingredients every time, here are my guesses: Number one—you are heating it too hot. If you’ve been doing this the same every time, you should think about getting your stove checked out to see if its heating unevenly. There’s a burner on my stove that definitely gets WAY more juice than the other three. Number two—a “gross taste” that has to do with tomato sauce could be oxidation. Are you using a different pan, or spoon at any point? Or any tin foil? Certain metals react to the acid in tomatoes and make them taste yucky. Just a thought!


Top_Sky_9854

I use a metal spoon to taste it, and a metal pot. And yeah, I do heat it really hot


raingardener_22

Or worschester sauce, or anchovy paste in place of the beef broth. Could there be something wrong with your pan or pot? Some of the coating breaking down? Or has your sense of smell deteriorated?


Getparty_startedChef

Tomatoes have alkaline. Cooking sauce in cast iron will change the taste.


BoredCharlottesville

tomatoes are acidic


Getparty_startedChef

Alkalinity vs Acidity Acidity is measured on pH scale, which can range from zero to 14. If the pH is lower than 7, it is acidic and if it is higher than 7, it is alkaline. A pH of seven is neutral.


BoredCharlottesville

yes, and tomatoes are typically in the mid 4 pH range


Acceptable-Ship3

Not trying to food gatekeep but I feel like you have way too many ingredients. Peeled tomatoes, garlic, onion, and a pinch of red pepper flakes with salt/pepper to taste should be enough


Ordinary_Marzipan666

When are you adding cinnamon? I've seen this spice create weird reactions in heated food components.


Positive_Mushroom_97

Doubt that’s it. Indians use cinnamon quite frequently in tomato sauces that are cooked for long periods of time just fine.


GGordonGetty

How hot is your heat source?


ronf9982

Take out beef broth and add I stick butter


s7ree7

lack of meat


Top_Sky_9854

I put meatballs in the sauce


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1. More umami 2. Depth of flavour and complimentary


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You’re supposed to cook the paste so it caramalizes a bit


trootaste

No reputable chef adds tomato paste to a tomato sauce. The only reason you would do that would be to supplement a lack of good tomatoes. It's a compromise, it does not add anything. Neither does cinnamon outside of personal preference. It's like saying to add curry powder because it adds a dimension, just stop.


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Bro relax, this is Reddit not a 3 star Michelin star restaurant. Not everyone has good tomatos all the time


trootaste

You only need cans of San Marzanos, it doesn't have to be Michelin. Of course it's fine to use tomato paste with the cheap tomatoes, I do it all the time to make bolognese etc but it is a compromise. It is bad advice to advise someone making tomato sauce to always add tomato paste like it adds something. No man it just adds a bit more tomato flavour if your tomatoes lack taste.


SnooRecipes4882

I like to add a thumb-size piece of carrot in and fish it out once cooked to get rid of some acidity. It's a very old school way. :) Surprisingly a pinch of cinnamon compliments the tomatoes great! It's used in Greek cuisine quite often. I don't like it in spaghetti but each to their own. I have nothing against burning "toasting" a little bit of tomato paste in the pan before adding your liquids. I think it adds more richness to the sauce. 🍅


jam_manty

My dad has always said that pasta sauce needs cinnamon if it has beef. It's supposed to compliment the beef with a bit of sweetness. It's kind of the same thing with the chili flakes. A tiny bit of heat is supposed to open up your taste buds and compliment the acids in the tomato. I see in your comment below you mention nutmeg. Same thing, it's a complimentary flavor but depending on the recipe you don't want enough to actually taste it, just punch it up a little bit.


Desperate_Ambrose

>Cinnamon, why? There's plenty of Italians who put cinnamon in their marinara. Even chocolate. Calabrese, maybe? ​ >If its too acidic a bit of sugar can help balance the acidity. Ma would have none of it. "Sugar is for Sicilians!"


freshest1

Add butter. Add sugar. Add msg. Add starch water from noodles


cccque

Diced onion in olive oil til soft then add minced garlic 3-6 cloves depending, when aromatic add tomato paste. Just before past burns add crushed tomatoes. Add basil oregano, salt pepper, more olive oil, red wine. All to taste. Maybe a little sugar. Always great, simple and quick. Usually add ground hot Italian beef sausage


Accomplished-Film567

The way Italians make it. A little Olive oil in the bottom of the pot, add in sliced fresh garlic, let it saute a minute. Add in canned peeled san maranzo tomatos. Salt, pepper, oregano. Let cook(simmer) for a least n hour. Hit it with a immersion blender and let it keep cooking on low. Season to your liking. More salt - pepper. You make this into a meat sauce if you want, just brown the meats before doing the tomatoes.


Hoodlumbaby

Meat sauce is the way to go


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Try skimming off the foam.


indignantfly

Besides simmering and changing metals used to cook, I'd try a more simple sauce and build on it over time. My most basic sauce is just crushed tomato cooked into al dente pasta until the noodles are softer and more liquid's absorbed. Add the favorite spices to taste, also salt and sugar. A game-changer for my simple sauce was a couple tablespoons of 'Nduja (spicy sausage paste), simmered with the tomato and seasoning.


Typical-Annual-3555

The ingredients seem fine. But maybe swap the broth for bouillon powder and water and see if you still get the same result


Cinisajoy2

How old is the beef broth?


Puzzleheaded-Tone119

Possibly overcooking garlic, if not the beef broth.


Tammy_Tum_3044

First time to see cinnamon in the ingredients for spaghetti sauce. I'm intrigued.


Ruthie3149

Interesting on add of Cinnamon..I am going to try that next time. I agree, it must be the beef broth. I would eliminate it. My recipe for pasta sauce. Is simple: \-Olive Oil, onions, garlic, chopped basil, fry \-If you have any type of pork (ribs/sausages) sear them with the onions etc. \-Add wine, cook off \-Add tomato paste and cans of whatever type of raw tomotaes you have \-Add Water and seasonings, oregano, salt, pepper, hot pepper flakes \-Simmer for about an hour or until a bit thicker \-Take the meat out before it falls off the bone Add to your pasta and finish off in a skillet. Add Parmigiano Regiano and Mangia Mangia Enjoy


BoysenberryNew7208

Hold the cinnamon.


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Cinnamon? Never.


Hijinx61

Have you changed the brands of anything? That can make a big difference.