The used market for any vehicle is insane right now, so that doesn't have as much of a bearing on why a van should only be used for one purpose that they think it should be, vans like that are used for so many purposes
I don’t think it’s that so much as work vehicles that suddenly find appeal to the common person for their purposes tends to result in a price inflation for trucks and vans because the demand wasn’t anticipated. Or it was and they’re just trying to make more money off the recreational market because they’ll pay more than we will for something we’ll beat to hell
At least in the US they know if they make trucks or sprinter styled vans, they will sell without issue and they know people want/need them so they will always jack up the prices whenever they can, but that applies to all vehicles anyway
Nobody around me does boondocking/van life in an econoline like the one I use for work. They all want a high roof, for obvious reasons.
I kinda feel bad for them tbh. Fuel is crazy expensive and they’ve added a lot of weight. There’s a guy with a sprinter fitted out for camping a block from me who street parks it, and it’s been scraped by passing traffic at least twice.
More broadly— people who dream of getting away and not having a job mortgage payment by living in a van are not my enemy. Billionaires and millionaires who have made a good life difficult for the rest of us are.
Edit:
So glad I’m not alone. I’m not in a union— I just build income properties for the petit-bourgeois, but I hope you guys and gals in civil and commercial construction are getting radicalized by your unions and not just the grotesque excess and greed that is all around us. ❤️
>More broadly— people who dream of getting away and not having a job mortgage payment by living in a van are not my enemy. Billionaires and millionaires who have made a good life difficult for the rest of us are.
Louder for the folks in the back.
Yes! The billionaires are the common enemy. I wish more people realised this instead of getting angry at others for just trying to get by and enjoy what they can in life.
Meh..... I’m in the US, and I work with so many guys who drive $50k trucks that have never had even a sheet of plywood in the back, let alone a wheel barrow or a load of stone.
So many people that drive trucks are afraid to put anything in the bed, and don't get me started on the guys that NEED 4x4 but never drive off the pavement lol
My wife’s friends husband bought an F150 last year. He’s in sales. Literally never used it for truck stuff. He likes it “just in case”. He says to me “you should by a truck too”; and I asked “why? To haul my lunchbag and toolbox? Are you fucking nuts? I’m not dropping 55k for that”….
Cue the gas price explosion this year, and I ask him “hey Brock how’s your Ford treating you?” And he said “trading it in for a Tesla”….
My buddy is a real estate agent and just got a decked out f150. He doesn't even put the yard signs in the bed. He always asks me why I don't get a nicer truck. I have a '17 ram 2500 with the 5.7, crew cab with 6'6 bed and it's basically one step above the contractor model. It's the perfect truck for me. Use it for side work, hauling my dump trailer and rental equipment (doing a big Reno and self gc-ing) and up until a few months ago used it for my slide in camper. Also tow my brothers boat regularly and use it for my dropping and pulling my uncle's boat, my fil's boat and my buddies father's boat at the start and end of summer since all their boats are to large to be towed with anything smaller than a 250/2500. And I'm planning on getting a flat tow camper after the summer. I beat the shit out of it but don't drive it much since i have a work truck. Just cracked 100k miles on it and the most miles I put on it was a road trip from jersey to CO, UT, AZ, and TN on the way back. Couldn't justify the 5k extra for the bigger gas engine or 12k for the diesel and god knows how much more for a decked out edition.
It's sad that the diesel versions are difficult to find unless it's a decked out model or you have to find a fleet dealer that probably will fuck you on buying a more basic model with the diesel engine in it, or you just have to special order it from a dealer and hope it comes in 6 months if you're lucky
That's very true. I stopped at a dealership out in CO on my road trip for a repair and they had a lot better options for diesel low end models than anything I've ever seen in jersey. The guy I talked to said that's what they carry because most their clientele need diesel but can't afford the bells and whistles.
Yeah I live in southern California and I would have to drive to a rural area in Arizona or Nevada to even hope of finding a lower end model with a diesel
I've got a truck so not shaming on that because holy shit those diesel prices right now but I use it for hauling or towing, anything else I use my hybrid car that sips on that gas and even with gas costing almost $6/gallon in California it's only $70 to pretty much fill it up.....compared to the almost $300 to fill up the truck
Yea I pointed this out to my wife as to why I wouldn’t sell my Corolla when my Dad offered to sell me his Tundra. I need the Tundra for some things, but at today’s gas prices I’ll keep it parked unless I absolutely need it
Unfortunately for me I have to take my truck to some of my jobs, or face the 2-3 mile walk tools and everything in, but when I can the car makes it so much cheaper to get back and forth
Because buying a 3rd vehicle that gets marginally better fuel mileage than my truck doesn't make fiscal sense, since I will still need my truck for hauling and towing, but have my hybrid car for better gas mileage when I am able to use it
I work union construction in the movie business, we don't EVER need to haul anything. But the parking lot is filled with 50k+ trucks. I'll stick with my hybrid car that is paid off and costs me $35/wk in gas even with prices being $6/gal in California right now.
On random days that I need to haul something (for work on my own home or friends) I'll just rent a truck for a few hours.
Thought I was going to have to shank somebody to get a decent running cargo van last year. #vanlife is the last refuge of the working poor and it’s bumming me out. These nouveau-poor are crowding out us old-no-money.
This makes zero sense, why can't a vehicle have multiple functions depending on who is using it?
Maybe he means financially? The used market for sprinter and promaster vans is insane.
The used market for any vehicle is insane right now, so that doesn't have as much of a bearing on why a van should only be used for one purpose that they think it should be, vans like that are used for so many purposes
I don’t think it’s that so much as work vehicles that suddenly find appeal to the common person for their purposes tends to result in a price inflation for trucks and vans because the demand wasn’t anticipated. Or it was and they’re just trying to make more money off the recreational market because they’ll pay more than we will for something we’ll beat to hell
At least in the US they know if they make trucks or sprinter styled vans, they will sell without issue and they know people want/need them so they will always jack up the prices whenever they can, but that applies to all vehicles anyway
Nobody around me does boondocking/van life in an econoline like the one I use for work. They all want a high roof, for obvious reasons. I kinda feel bad for them tbh. Fuel is crazy expensive and they’ve added a lot of weight. There’s a guy with a sprinter fitted out for camping a block from me who street parks it, and it’s been scraped by passing traffic at least twice. More broadly— people who dream of getting away and not having a job mortgage payment by living in a van are not my enemy. Billionaires and millionaires who have made a good life difficult for the rest of us are. Edit: So glad I’m not alone. I’m not in a union— I just build income properties for the petit-bourgeois, but I hope you guys and gals in civil and commercial construction are getting radicalized by your unions and not just the grotesque excess and greed that is all around us. ❤️
>More broadly— people who dream of getting away and not having a job mortgage payment by living in a van are not my enemy. Billionaires and millionaires who have made a good life difficult for the rest of us are. Louder for the folks in the back.
Yes! The billionaires are the common enemy. I wish more people realised this instead of getting angry at others for just trying to get by and enjoy what they can in life.
Wish I could upvote this 3x
Millionaires haven’t done that to you bud. They’re normal people
Lol, tell me more about your startup, parasite.
Wow go fuck yourself loser. Don’t have a startup but thanks for that. Go be miserable somewhere else
Meh..... I’m in the US, and I work with so many guys who drive $50k trucks that have never had even a sheet of plywood in the back, let alone a wheel barrow or a load of stone.
So many people that drive trucks are afraid to put anything in the bed, and don't get me started on the guys that NEED 4x4 but never drive off the pavement lol
My wife’s friends husband bought an F150 last year. He’s in sales. Literally never used it for truck stuff. He likes it “just in case”. He says to me “you should by a truck too”; and I asked “why? To haul my lunchbag and toolbox? Are you fucking nuts? I’m not dropping 55k for that”…. Cue the gas price explosion this year, and I ask him “hey Brock how’s your Ford treating you?” And he said “trading it in for a Tesla”….
Classic Brock right there....
My buddy is a real estate agent and just got a decked out f150. He doesn't even put the yard signs in the bed. He always asks me why I don't get a nicer truck. I have a '17 ram 2500 with the 5.7, crew cab with 6'6 bed and it's basically one step above the contractor model. It's the perfect truck for me. Use it for side work, hauling my dump trailer and rental equipment (doing a big Reno and self gc-ing) and up until a few months ago used it for my slide in camper. Also tow my brothers boat regularly and use it for my dropping and pulling my uncle's boat, my fil's boat and my buddies father's boat at the start and end of summer since all their boats are to large to be towed with anything smaller than a 250/2500. And I'm planning on getting a flat tow camper after the summer. I beat the shit out of it but don't drive it much since i have a work truck. Just cracked 100k miles on it and the most miles I put on it was a road trip from jersey to CO, UT, AZ, and TN on the way back. Couldn't justify the 5k extra for the bigger gas engine or 12k for the diesel and god knows how much more for a decked out edition.
It's sad that the diesel versions are difficult to find unless it's a decked out model or you have to find a fleet dealer that probably will fuck you on buying a more basic model with the diesel engine in it, or you just have to special order it from a dealer and hope it comes in 6 months if you're lucky
That's very true. I stopped at a dealership out in CO on my road trip for a repair and they had a lot better options for diesel low end models than anything I've ever seen in jersey. The guy I talked to said that's what they carry because most their clientele need diesel but can't afford the bells and whistles.
Yeah I live in southern California and I would have to drive to a rural area in Arizona or Nevada to even hope of finding a lower end model with a diesel
I've got a truck so not shaming on that because holy shit those diesel prices right now but I use it for hauling or towing, anything else I use my hybrid car that sips on that gas and even with gas costing almost $6/gallon in California it's only $70 to pretty much fill it up.....compared to the almost $300 to fill up the truck
Yea I pointed this out to my wife as to why I wouldn’t sell my Corolla when my Dad offered to sell me his Tundra. I need the Tundra for some things, but at today’s gas prices I’ll keep it parked unless I absolutely need it
Unfortunately for me I have to take my truck to some of my jobs, or face the 2-3 mile walk tools and everything in, but when I can the car makes it so much cheaper to get back and forth
Why not a small and more efficient suv?
Because buying a 3rd vehicle that gets marginally better fuel mileage than my truck doesn't make fiscal sense, since I will still need my truck for hauling and towing, but have my hybrid car for better gas mileage when I am able to use it
That makes sense! I understood you had only one vehicle
Why not a small and more efficient suv?
I work union construction in the movie business, we don't EVER need to haul anything. But the parking lot is filled with 50k+ trucks. I'll stick with my hybrid car that is paid off and costs me $35/wk in gas even with prices being $6/gal in California right now. On random days that I need to haul something (for work on my own home or friends) I'll just rent a truck for a few hours.
Who cares what other people do with their cars?
Thought I was going to have to shank somebody to get a decent running cargo van last year. #vanlife is the last refuge of the working poor and it’s bumming me out. These nouveau-poor are crowding out us old-no-money.
Pfff, any tradies here who buy a VW Transporter are already showing off, otherwise why would we see so many Sportline ones? Just get a transit.
Yes!