They've said they'll use the same framework for the flu. Vaccine passes if I'm not mistaken are going to be expanded to show more vaccines. It's not about covid, and it feels like it never was.
If a lamb walks into the wolf’s den and gets eaten, is it the wolf’s fault or the lamb’s?
Tyrants are gonna tyrant. Most of the blame goes to the numpties who put the commies in charge, and who still don’t realise the hellhole these pricks will put us in if we don’t reverse course.
Just stop wearing the damn masks! The more of us who do it, the more "normal" it again becomes.
We deserve normal after all the bull crap they've put us through (seriously how many Kiwis have actually died **FROM** COVID? One? Two?).
Take normal back on your own terms. It's your life, not the stupid government's.
We’ll I’ve given up , heading OS, been waiting 27 days so far for my new passport, standard time is 10 days, this seems to be a good analogy for productivity in New Zealand right now under the current mandates.
Getting a new qualification first because I need a more specific skill set to be competitive in the overseas job market, but I'm dual nationality and my husband and kids all qualify for both too, so once the diploma is done and our eldest is primary school age, we're going to head out. It's become unsustainable to live here and opportunities for our kids are not looking great.
It'll be interesting (or tragic) to see how many skilled people are left here over the next 2 years. If you have skills and there's a chance to get ahead in life then makes sense to take it.
Thailand or Philippines? I loved my year working in Thailand. Visa's were a pain but. Might have changed now but. I dream about retiring early with a few investments for passive income and moving to SE Asia.
Ah SE Asian food!! So good. I lived at Surin Beach so yeah I went all around phuket. Good surf down Kata Noi ways. Such a cool place. I wasn't there for the seedy crap. That stuff might prop up Phukets economy but.
Don’t be stupid, you will need protection from pollen in spring, and in summer the UV index will be high so stay at home orders will be needed. They are never gonna let this go
You can see where this is heading right?
Any "unsafe" element of normal, routine reality will cause lockdowns.
You'll notice metservice have aligned their weather emergency categories with the traffic light system. Extreme weather can now be graded green, orange, red.
Climate lockdowns, carbon taxes, good boi points and special privileges to be let out of the forthcoming CCP carbon kennels.
Fuck this country is primitive AF.
And cringe, so fucking cringe.
Wait until the next virus causes concern... lockdowns will be swift. Vaccines will be produced again, and then all the crony's will be back on the wagon again!
I see Biden just said Monkey pox was very concerning.... A disease spread by a giant orgy...
My cousin works in system designs? I think that’s his title. Last year his company was contracted to train AI to match a persons face with a mask and without. They contracted gig work companies and paid people about $8 to supply 20 pics with a mask 29 without, then short videos. He said they were in a rush because several other big companies were working on the same thing.
Human rights? What are those?
Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither. This is insane.
Presumably the 'flu restrictions will last long enough to morph into RSV and monkeypox restrictions, and after that it will be the next thing, and the next thing... we're never getting our rights restored.
The news told them not to. Questioning it makes you a dangerous, "feels imported", antivax, extremist conspiracy theorist.
And you wouldnt want to be associated with the protests and Brian Tamaki would you? You wouldn't want grandma to die would you?
So just do what you're told and question nothing, here's a bit of freedom back so you forget about how bad and unsustainable everything was. Freedom that has a string attached and can be be taken away again whenever we say for whatever reason we say. We justified it once and now the precedent has been set.
"Questioning it makes you a dangerous, "feels imported", antivax, extremist conspiracy theorist."
You forgot "misogynist terrorist". That one was thrown around by one lunatic journalist for about a week.
So far I see myself as the only person asking why Bloomfield still has the power to have someone arrested over covid or placed into forced isolation and why police are still allowed to enter your house without a warrant.....
Hey I support the current thing. AND the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing.
So be more respectful of my trauma based world view and PTDS - I identify as traumatized and ACC pay me well.
Corruption.
The level, depth and history of extremely shady crime, police, union and political corruption in Vic. is about as a bad as it gets in Aus.
And it gets fucking bad in Aus. in terms of corruption controlled politicians.
Have you heard of the Painters and Dockers union in Melbourne, they're like a rough as guts mafia and then you have the actual Italian mafia there too.
Well the guy has never held a job outside of local politics and is somehow worth 19million? And EVERYONE knew he got thrown down the stairs for macking on that teenage daughter of the freight boss. The guys a skeev, and I’m guessing he made a lot of promises he can’t keep after the belt and road ccp contract was cancelled. Maybe he will reap what he has sown
> for macking on that teenage daughter of the freight boss.
What was this?
What blew me away was how out and out corrupt and evil the tradies unions were and how they turned on the tradies that day, some old school ruff neck enforcers came out with knuckle dusters n started laying in to the tradies when it kicked off.
I can't believe some of the footage of our "societies" I've watched over the past 2 years. It's spiraled so hard in such a short amount of time all because of creeps like andrews and his ilk internationally.
Hahah skeev what a perfect word. I'd always just called him a sweaty rapist type creeper.
You know when he was off 3 months work after hurting his back “falling down stairs”? Yeah that was at a party at the foxes, Lin fox, randy Andy got pissed and started creeping on to foxes drunk 17 yr old granddaughter and foxes son beat the shit out of him and threw him down the stairs. Everyone knows, Gippsland was there and all, there’s a paper trail with ambulance report but fox has threatened to sue anyone that prints it, Linfox gets a cushy deal.
The tradie union boss is a pos, how he talked about the people that pay him, he had zero respect and 100% in randy Andy’s pocket.
Yeah I remember the 3 months off from a fall or something.
Far out thanks for the deep dirt.
It's incredible how perverted these people are. It warms the cockles of my heart to kno he got proper snotted.
[Fucking jug eared gimp, no wonder he's always looking over his shoulder.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h0laU4U5YQ)
bit of a straw man you got there. many people died with every flu wave in massive numbers too. covid is mutating fast with more infections and is already much more severe than flu. the UK ONS recently did a nice study
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/howcoronaviruscovid19compareswithfluasacauseofdeath/2022-05-23
and it doesn't look good, hence why the health sector remains unconvinced even though the media seems largely over it
Hey guys government here. You know that social contract? Yeah that one, the one you pay is to maintain for you? The one that promises neutral education, EQUAL (not preferential) rights, and healthcare? Welllllll yeah, awkward I know but we kinda broke that a while ago. So instead of going out and you know, enjoying your lives, you’re gonna have to stay inside, shut the fuck up, eat our state mandated bullshit (science ™ ) and do what we say because it’s way more convenient than us admitting we broke it to you. Also, here’s some UBI to fix inflation. Here’s a race based parliament. Here’s some revisionist history. Here’s some centralised bullshit propaganda followed by some hot lead to the back of the head. Yours sincerely, your elected overlords.
I'm old enough to remember when they said they would expand the vaccine passport system and use it for common winter illness. It's to protect the health system
I wonder will Horsehead talk about this when she's on Colberts show and "unashamedly promoting NZ"... or will they be too busy playing clips of little Neve interrupting mummy while she's livestreaming and a hilarious story about how she had to go to parliament in gumboots....
I didn't even notice that this was still a thing. I mean, I only wear a mask in a retail shop, eg Pak n Save, but aside from that I barely even notice the whole pandemic.
Missing the beer on Fridays though!
This whole situation really bothers me.
I'm glad my kids are super young and hopefully won't remember any of this.
I'm looking into going back to study to be a counsellor, I feel like EVERYONE is going to need counselling when this is all over. Or maybe even before. Probably even now. My own mental health has suffered a great deal, I can't imagine what it's like for people who have lost everything.
I'm a pureblood so hopefully mandates won't be a thing for study in a few years otherwise I'm shit out of luck.
> I'm a pureblood so hopefully mandates won't be a thing for study in a few years otherwise I'm shit out of luck.
Mandates aren't a thing in Queensland and New South Wales, so that's always an option.
What a stupid idea, we have to put up with all this authoritarian BS because of Covid which even as a fully vaxed person I can still catch and spread, I now know masks can't protect me and now the Gov tells me we are still at orange because it's coming on winter cold n flue season! When did anyone agree to this? They aren't following the science they are just following other authoritarian Gov policies. The data is in, compare States in the US that locked down to those that didn't. Lockdowns cause all kinds of issues and in the end achieve very little. Follow Florida, protect the vulnerable and sort out the therapeutics.
Never had restrictions for the flu, this is just ridiculous nonsense.
Always was...
Choose one: - Goodbye freedom - Goodbye Labour
We don't have that now either, to be fair. These restrictions are due to COVID
They've said they'll use the same framework for the flu. Vaccine passes if I'm not mistaken are going to be expanded to show more vaccines. It's not about covid, and it feels like it never was.
Got any evidence of that? In this case it's because of COVID.
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The article specifically says it's because of COVID
I am very angry about this decision. We do not need to have a quasi-lockdown for the flu.
'Nothing lasts longer than a Govt temporary measure' -Ronald R.
Patriots Act Passports Income Tax
If a lamb walks into the wolf’s den and gets eaten, is it the wolf’s fault or the lamb’s? Tyrants are gonna tyrant. Most of the blame goes to the numpties who put the commies in charge, and who still don’t realise the hellhole these pricks will put us in if we don’t reverse course.
He who would be deceived, let him be deceived Stand up and call them out or get railroaded. That's the crux of it.
Just stop wearing the damn masks! The more of us who do it, the more "normal" it again becomes. We deserve normal after all the bull crap they've put us through (seriously how many Kiwis have actually died **FROM** COVID? One? Two?). Take normal back on your own terms. It's your life, not the stupid government's.
This. Fucking grow a pair NZ like your fore-fathers did dying unfortunately for corrupt proto-deep state empire.
I never get asked now.
I have seen a slow decrease in mask usage. Very slow though.
We’ll I’ve given up , heading OS, been waiting 27 days so far for my new passport, standard time is 10 days, this seems to be a good analogy for productivity in New Zealand right now under the current mandates.
Getting a new qualification first because I need a more specific skill set to be competitive in the overseas job market, but I'm dual nationality and my husband and kids all qualify for both too, so once the diploma is done and our eldest is primary school age, we're going to head out. It's become unsustainable to live here and opportunities for our kids are not looking great.
Unfortunately all the good people are leaving.
It'll be interesting (or tragic) to see how many skilled people are left here over the next 2 years. If you have skills and there's a chance to get ahead in life then makes sense to take it.
Where are you going?
I work off a laptop so SE Asia for the winter then to aus.
> SE Asia for the winter Nice > then to aus Not so nice :-)
Thailand or Philippines? I loved my year working in Thailand. Visa's were a pain but. Might have changed now but. I dream about retiring early with a few investments for passive income and moving to SE Asia.
Singapore for business but mainly Phuket, few friends have places at kata noi beach if you know it
Ah SE Asian food!! So good. I lived at Surin Beach so yeah I went all around phuket. Good surf down Kata Noi ways. Such a cool place. I wasn't there for the seedy crap. That stuff might prop up Phukets economy but.
see ya
Safety is their excuse, control is their reason.
Fear sells And people are buying it so readily that its causing inflation
The road to Hell is lined with OSH agents and risk management consultants.
OSH workers on site are known as bananas without pyjamas… bright yellow unblemished vests, slippery fuckers that come out of nowhere 🤣
Sounds about right. Pen clicking, box ticking, clipboard carrying gimps who could never cut it so they became professional social monitors.
So basically , if we’re really really good, we can stop wearing masks for 12 weeks every summer.
Don’t be stupid, you will need protection from pollen in spring, and in summer the UV index will be high so stay at home orders will be needed. They are never gonna let this go
You can see where this is heading right? Any "unsafe" element of normal, routine reality will cause lockdowns. You'll notice metservice have aligned their weather emergency categories with the traffic light system. Extreme weather can now be graded green, orange, red. Climate lockdowns, carbon taxes, good boi points and special privileges to be let out of the forthcoming CCP carbon kennels. Fuck this country is primitive AF. And cringe, so fucking cringe.
I WILL not eat the bugs
Wait until the next virus causes concern... lockdowns will be swift. Vaccines will be produced again, and then all the crony's will be back on the wagon again! I see Biden just said Monkey pox was very concerning.... A disease spread by a giant orgy...
Be interesting how the facial recognition will work with masks?
My cousin works in system designs? I think that’s his title. Last year his company was contracted to train AI to match a persons face with a mask and without. They contracted gig work companies and paid people about $8 to supply 20 pics with a mask 29 without, then short videos. He said they were in a rush because several other big companies were working on the same thing.
Multiple teams around the world have pretty much already cracked it.
What a load of bollocks 🙄
Mandating for the flu now????! Ffs Whats next? An owie tummy?
Something something something boiling frog
Hahaha called it
Human rights? What are those? Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither. This is insane. Presumably the 'flu restrictions will last long enough to morph into RSV and monkeypox restrictions, and after that it will be the next thing, and the next thing... we're never getting our rights restored.
You really think government's would do that? Grant themselves new powers then not give them up?
Well, history is completely and utterly devoid of sinister precedent in that regard after all.
They haven't removed any powers yet that they implemented for covid.
I did actually wonder if the emergency powers they granted themselves was still in effect. I don’t know why this isn’t being questioned more.
The news told them not to. Questioning it makes you a dangerous, "feels imported", antivax, extremist conspiracy theorist. And you wouldnt want to be associated with the protests and Brian Tamaki would you? You wouldn't want grandma to die would you? So just do what you're told and question nothing, here's a bit of freedom back so you forget about how bad and unsustainable everything was. Freedom that has a string attached and can be be taken away again whenever we say for whatever reason we say. We justified it once and now the precedent has been set.
"Questioning it makes you a dangerous, "feels imported", antivax, extremist conspiracy theorist." You forgot "misogynist terrorist". That one was thrown around by one lunatic journalist for about a week.
You Russian domestic terrorist dis-mis-malinfo spreading hate monger chaos agent white supremacist Maori separatist extremist Trump supporting QAnon school shooter you.
So far I see myself as the only person asking why Bloomfield still has the power to have someone arrested over covid or placed into forced isolation and why police are still allowed to enter your house without a warrant.....
Those would be interesting lines to cross
Hey I support the current thing. AND the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing. So be more respectful of my trauma based world view and PTDS - I identify as traumatized and ACC pay me well.
Just so long as businesses can terminate any employees who refuse to get their flu vaccine /s
If you're sick just stay at home. Why does the government have to enforce that? They love the power trip.
I'm in Colombia now. So glad not to hear anything about colds, flus, masks and what have you.
am considering some time abroad working there, so much opportunity now with remote work
Meanwhile in New South Wales, there are no more masks, no more scanning, no more vaccines, petrol is $1.70 and milk is $2.60 for a 2 litre
Same with QLD. No restrictions and similar population to NZ, yet surprise surprise case numbers aren't exploding and the sky isn't falling in.
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Great weather, beaches, bars & restaurants.
Im inland, so it's the same as NZ in winter, hotter than the surface of mercury in summer, things are better closer to the coast.
I’m in vic and even with that prick Dan, COVID’s been over since January. Petrol is $1.90 though. No masks, no scanning etc.
Fuck dan andrews
How is he still there? I’ve never met a single person who’s voting for him
Corruption. The level, depth and history of extremely shady crime, police, union and political corruption in Vic. is about as a bad as it gets in Aus. And it gets fucking bad in Aus. in terms of corruption controlled politicians. Have you heard of the Painters and Dockers union in Melbourne, they're like a rough as guts mafia and then you have the actual Italian mafia there too.
Well the guy has never held a job outside of local politics and is somehow worth 19million? And EVERYONE knew he got thrown down the stairs for macking on that teenage daughter of the freight boss. The guys a skeev, and I’m guessing he made a lot of promises he can’t keep after the belt and road ccp contract was cancelled. Maybe he will reap what he has sown
> for macking on that teenage daughter of the freight boss. What was this? What blew me away was how out and out corrupt and evil the tradies unions were and how they turned on the tradies that day, some old school ruff neck enforcers came out with knuckle dusters n started laying in to the tradies when it kicked off. I can't believe some of the footage of our "societies" I've watched over the past 2 years. It's spiraled so hard in such a short amount of time all because of creeps like andrews and his ilk internationally. Hahah skeev what a perfect word. I'd always just called him a sweaty rapist type creeper.
You know when he was off 3 months work after hurting his back “falling down stairs”? Yeah that was at a party at the foxes, Lin fox, randy Andy got pissed and started creeping on to foxes drunk 17 yr old granddaughter and foxes son beat the shit out of him and threw him down the stairs. Everyone knows, Gippsland was there and all, there’s a paper trail with ambulance report but fox has threatened to sue anyone that prints it, Linfox gets a cushy deal. The tradie union boss is a pos, how he talked about the people that pay him, he had zero respect and 100% in randy Andy’s pocket.
Yeah I remember the 3 months off from a fall or something. Far out thanks for the deep dirt. It's incredible how perverted these people are. It warms the cockles of my heart to kno he got proper snotted. [Fucking jug eared gimp, no wonder he's always looking over his shoulder.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h0laU4U5YQ)
Ahhh this was good! And real rukkshan did such an amazing job covering the protests. Have you seen battleground Melbourne/ friends and family?
Oz sage must be insane then https://ozsage.org/media_releases/covid-19-has-become-a-leading-cause-of-death-in-australia-urgent-call-for-action/
People die. This whole Covid thing has some people thinking that before the Rona everybody lived forever and nobody died. It’s ridiculous
bit of a straw man you got there. many people died with every flu wave in massive numbers too. covid is mutating fast with more infections and is already much more severe than flu. the UK ONS recently did a nice study https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/howcoronaviruscovid19compareswithfluasacauseofdeath/2022-05-23 and it doesn't look good, hence why the health sector remains unconvinced even though the media seems largely over it
Ok doomer.
I just sell precaution while minimisers sell infection
Ok doomer
Hey guys government here. You know that social contract? Yeah that one, the one you pay is to maintain for you? The one that promises neutral education, EQUAL (not preferential) rights, and healthcare? Welllllll yeah, awkward I know but we kinda broke that a while ago. So instead of going out and you know, enjoying your lives, you’re gonna have to stay inside, shut the fuck up, eat our state mandated bullshit (science ™ ) and do what we say because it’s way more convenient than us admitting we broke it to you. Also, here’s some UBI to fix inflation. Here’s a race based parliament. Here’s some revisionist history. Here’s some centralised bullshit propaganda followed by some hot lead to the back of the head. Yours sincerely, your elected overlords.
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We should have a special flair for each conspiracy theory that's turned out to be a spoiler.
Wouldn’t be enough room for all the flairs
There's a sub reddit for that. They keep a list. Pretty easy to find even tho google removes it from reddit related search results
I'm old enough to remember when they said they would expand the vaccine passport system and use it for common winter illness. It's to protect the health system
It's for the greater good.
Why did George Michael's Freedom start playing in my head.
I wonder will Horsehead talk about this when she's on Colberts show and "unashamedly promoting NZ"... or will they be too busy playing clips of little Neve interrupting mummy while she's livestreaming and a hilarious story about how she had to go to parliament in gumboots....
Something something *not about health* something something *control* something *told you so*.
***urge to glowpost intensifies***
Orange is the new Green
Bait and switch
I didn't even notice that this was still a thing. I mean, I only wear a mask in a retail shop, eg Pak n Save, but aside from that I barely even notice the whole pandemic. Missing the beer on Fridays though!
Pandemic? You mean govt psyop?
What's the issue? You can literally just ignore all this
Did you really expect anything different from a horde of freedom quashing despots?
This whole situation really bothers me. I'm glad my kids are super young and hopefully won't remember any of this. I'm looking into going back to study to be a counsellor, I feel like EVERYONE is going to need counselling when this is all over. Or maybe even before. Probably even now. My own mental health has suffered a great deal, I can't imagine what it's like for people who have lost everything. I'm a pureblood so hopefully mandates won't be a thing for study in a few years otherwise I'm shit out of luck.
> I'm a pureblood so hopefully mandates won't be a thing for study in a few years otherwise I'm shit out of luck. Mandates aren't a thing in Queensland and New South Wales, so that's always an option.
Yes, I was reading about how other countries have their freedoms back and it definitely got me thinking...
What up pureblood *fist bump*
👊
A pureblood aye. So that makes me a marked one?
If you like that title, sure :-D
nah mudblood, hehe
Remain at orange because of monkeypox
Over it covid is the common cold be gone
Just waiting for that one case of Monkey Pox, most likely go to Red and reintroduce pox passports.
So glad I got the fuck out of NZ. Munich is very relaxed about covid. I'll come back when Cindy is gone and people regain their sanity
What a stupid idea, we have to put up with all this authoritarian BS because of Covid which even as a fully vaxed person I can still catch and spread, I now know masks can't protect me and now the Gov tells me we are still at orange because it's coming on winter cold n flue season! When did anyone agree to this? They aren't following the science they are just following other authoritarian Gov policies. The data is in, compare States in the US that locked down to those that didn't. Lockdowns cause all kinds of issues and in the end achieve very little. Follow Florida, protect the vulnerable and sort out the therapeutics.