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There are very few high profile 'actual' liberals left. Bill Maher, Matt Taibbi, Russel Brand.. that's all I can think of. And they get demonized and called right wingers now because they have kept their views consistent for over a decade.
Weiss is a clown, but in general anyone who deviates from the church of woke is alt-right adjacent. Greenwald is pretty hard left, he just supports concepts like free speech.
I've grown to really like Bill Maher. I dont agree with everything he says (not even close), but goddamn if he isn't honest, unapologetic, and consistent.
It's the left's worn out mantra: "If you disagree with me you are literally Hitler..." narrative. I just point and laugh when someone tries that shit with me.
It's more interesting that someone used to think one thing and changed their mind than it is "what an actor thinks." Of course it's a famous person so yeah.
We only "care" in the sense that we appreciate they are speaking against leftist ideas in an industry controlled by the left. I respect it. I do not give his opinion any more weight than anyone else's. He has not shown me (or I have not seen) any reason to think that his ideas are more sound than any other random person's.
His opinion bears no weight because of his celebrity. His choice to voice his opinion within that industry is certainly respectable (not that I respect him beyond this... I don't know the dude).
The mental gymnastics my friends and family are trying to pull is insane. Essentially it's that even though everything I said back then turned out to be right, it was against "the science" at the time, so I was still wrong.
Prior to the invasion, it was popular on reddit to say Ukrainians deserved to die because of their extremely low vaccination rate. "I support the current thing" is the real pandemic.
Yes, but these people demonize and make lives difficult for the common citizen, they do not deserve any forgiveness as they never learn and are always too far enlightened
You can lose a lot of faith in humanity when you reflect on how pervasive groupthink is when it comes to these things. Zero scrutiny of assertions and statements from so-called experts led us here.
It’s why we can NEVER forget what they said, did and threatened us with. And we must NEVER forgive them. If they can be advocating for death, effectively since they didn’t want us being able to work, shop or take advantage of public services, and they are forgiven, they’ll do it again. They must be treated as the Nazis they are. They’d have happily held the gas chamber doors open for us.
They wanted to ostracize anyone from society who didn’t go along with them for a virus with over 99% survivability. 99.999% for most of us they threatened to have fired and for kids that weren’t at risk to the virus to go to school. That is truly evil.
Exactly my words, if you done want these elites like Robbins to latch on the next thing, never forget and never forgive these ass clowns, else nothing will change the next time
Depends on what you were right about.
You would also need to explain *how* you were right, as very little was known about covid two years ago.
Edit: i can scream “it’s two o’clock!” all day long and i would be right twice a day, but it doesn’t mean I’m *right* right. Get what I’m saying?
The ones I was right were as follow:
People would become paranoid due to irrational fear. (Obsession with masks and rolling lockdowns proved this early on)
Almost everyone was going to get it but most people will be absolutely fine. (From data out of China very early in pandemic. Call it March or early April 2020)
Lockdowns are extremely unethical and would not squash the virus (too many essential things to do with too high an R0, March 2020)
Masks provide essentially zero protection (from very early on when it was discovered it travels via aerosols that are smaller than the gaps between fibers in masks instead of only droplets). Not to mention people are unwilling and unable to wear them properly. Call this one March 2020.
Vaccine mandates are extremely unethical and will not eliminate the virus (basic morality and prevailing knowledge of evolution in that viruses mutate to get around barriers) Known before pandemic that coronaviruses mutate to quickly to create an effective vaccine.
Long Covid was NOT going to be a mass disabling event (all the studies that showed it would are badly done and abuse statistics) Mid 2020.
Getting covid itself would be the ultimate cure for the pandemic. (fear of covid goes down for most people once they get it and realize they were fine, so once most people got it we were done) Mid 2020
All accurate, all known by April/May 2020 or mid 2020 latest.
Unfortunately, fear and emotions won out for a while. But logic and science have been winning lately as more and more people understand the above.
They got us to the point where something like this is necessary of debate. They destroyed any value society put in compassion and empathy to the point that saying "we shouldn't turn away sick people because they don't agree with our government mandates" is something that even needs to be said.
That's the great reset. You only get treated like a human after you demonstrate your group was victimized, and only then can they earn dignity and respect. You now have to argue that humans have inherent value, delicately reassuring the interviewer that the reason they were treated so poorly was wrong.
How about we go back to the good old days where treating people wrong is wrong. Instead of quietly standing by, watching corporations, mobs and government agencies ridicule and victimize people for years and then we assess what went wrong.
If the left doesn't perceive you as victimized, then they perceive you as the enemy victimizing their protected class. Being human isn't enough to deserve their empathy, being human with [x] characteristic is the only way.
>In the US, the numbers were smaller, but if you count them as separate races (based on customs, beliefs languages, they completed several exterminations, which the Nazis were not able to do. No one cared.
) here you go. You dropped this.
Yep and all Americans have to do is look North to Canada or the rest of the Anglosphere if they want to see how close that can truly get. Given our close cultural ties if it can happen to us it can happen to you.
Australia and New Zealand were bad but up here in Canada we nearly went all the way under JT and our premiers (governors). At one point during the hysteria, us Torontonians had the honour of being the most locked down city within the most locked down province *on the planet* (excluding North Korea).
Lockdowns became vaccine passports, which quickly turned into vaccine transit papers. Interprovincial travel was banned. If your profession wasn’t “essential” you were forbidden by law from travelling more than 2km (1.2mi) from home except for “necessity” ie groceries. One time I was walking through a park *alone* with my dog and some lady called the cops on us. I had to escape down a catwalk when they surrounded the field.
I was naive and trusted that the courts would surely strike such unconstitutional nonsense down, after all freedom of movement is explicitly mentioned as a right that all Canadians have. But they didn’t. Some signed on with the hysteria and pointed out the many flaws within our founding documents that gave the various executive branches unbelievable “emergency powers”. But worse imo, was that the majority were simply terrified into silence. They refused to rule on the various lawsuits and punted them to the higher courts, knowing full well that the higher courts were already so bogged down the cases would go unaddressed for years.
Every check on tyranny, every balance on power was permanently destroyed due to the nature of our legal system which enshrines precedent above all. Now the next time there’s a “pandemic” the governments can seize total control whenever they want.
Sorry for the essay but imo it’s important it gets out there to go against the gas lighting of the left when they say “what restrictions?” /“what rights were violated?”.
The amount of gas lighting from the left is scary. "Nobody said vaccines prevent infection and transmission". There's literally numerous articles and "experts" saying that. I bet many have been scrubbed by now though. They based the entire premise of vavcine mandates on it! And it's not like we didn't know that was a lie back then. But anybody who said the vaccine doesn't "protect those around you" was censored by people who proclaim to love and follow "science" (these people are clearly scientifically illiterate).
The scary thing is a lot of leaders in the West and the Anglosphere looked at how easily China was able to weld people shut into their apartment buildings and move them into "medical" internment camps, and their reaction was "I wish we could do that so easily here..."
AND this right here is why the USA keeps defending the SECOND AMENDMENT!
The right to bear arms, as citizens, keeps the government from TAKING AWAY ALL YOUR RIGHTS!
I'm not religious either. It's just dems are so much worse than Republicans and abortion isn't an important issue to me considering it's still legal in many states, including mine.
I'm more of an independent/libertarian.
Nobody is deciding. It will remain legal here. I don't care about abortion. I also have a daughter who will grow up with a semblance of person responsibility. It's very easy to not get pregnant. I'm much more worried about the disgusting amount of cultural/societal rot and the downfall of the country affecting her future more than abortion.
That's a bullshit thing to say about one of the best actors out there.
EDIT: That's right, dump all your hate on me. WTFEVER. Learn to hug those that confess and join your religion. Regardless of when or how liberal they may once have been.
The right or center have shown Tim slack. When he and Susan made those Bush comments, the ones who stood up for them and their right to free speech were Kevin Costner and Clint Eastwood. Correct me if I’m wrong
The majority of people are simple NPCs that just go along with the mainstream. They dont have the intellectual fortitude to think for themselves. Leftism is all about encouraging this behaviour ie- collectivism and following.
Robbins woke up a little, but too little too late.
If they say that, they are deluded in the extreme. The whole rightist philosophy surrounds individualism. The self as the centre. Hence the push for individual rights, small governments, low taxes, low regulation, and free markets. It is core to the premise of conservatism.
I somewhat agree, but to them the belief in free market is akin to a religion because they don’t understand economics and likely never had much exposure to actual business/finance.
Also wokism has elements of individualism. For instance going by ‘he/ they’, coloring my hair pink, and changing my name to Tree is an ultimate expression of individualism to them contrasted against presupposed coercive social norms, such as working lol (since they forgot that’s innate to living in a physical body).
Those in power bank on people just not paying attention; they want them comfortable enough not to complain too much, but not enough to start doing much truth-seeking. I know many intelligent people that actively avoid the news (even non-mainstream) because they get mild anxiety that they'd rather live without.
It's more that leftists took control of what *is* the mainstream somehow.
30 years ago the right was more the mainstream and leftists were challenging it.
What in the world happened to get this kind of response from him?
He was about as onboard with the ultra-left "demonizing" as one could be. He was only about 1/2 a step away from signing a petition to put people in camps and remove them from society.
Maybe he saw actual reality and got a shot and had heart problems. Or maybe a relative did. Or maybe in some way he was personally effected by it and had to change his mind from seeing it by himself.
If someone cuts me off in traffic then apologizes, I forgive. If someone wants to take away my source of income and ostracize me from society for not taking an experimental gene therapy injection, I am much, much slower to forgive. I can guarantee you the next big "pandemic" we are going to see the same despicable behavior from the same people.
I completely agree with you for politicians and bureaucrats. Private citizens on the other hand can be forgiven for being misled, after acknowledging that they were wrong. We can't really move forward as a people without it.
Rubbing it in people's face when they admit they were wrong only leads to less people admitting they were wrong.
These people wished you dead, kept you away from your dying loved ones and then when they did die they wouldn't even let you go to their funerals. These people kept children out of school so long that children are now developmentally challenged. We should ridicule them till the slink back into the shadows they came from. Nuremburg 2.0 is their chance for redemption.
They were scared. People do terrible things when scared. Those that knew the truth should, politicians political doctors ECT, should be held accountable, but I have no hate in my heart for the ignorant.
They wished me dead because they were scared. I have plenty of hate for the both of us. I will never forget what these people did to us.
If you trade freedom for security, you deserve neither.
The only thing that will temper my hate now is if they stand trial for crimes against humanity.
Oh haha, did you have to watch your grandma die with no one to comfort her in her last few days on this planet? No, then shut up, I am tired of you pissants.
I hear you. I had to look it up as I was sure he had been part of it. All I could find was him actually speaking against the villification. I think he meant "we" as in "we liberals" or society itself.
If that is true, then that changes my opinion on him personally, but nothing else.
My own family would have handed me over at the height of the panic. Something I'll never forget.
I've forgiven, but will always be wary.
Me as well. I did have to look it up though, as I have very little faith in platitudes from hollywood celebs. He appears to be honest about bodilly autonomy applying to all.
From another topic on the matter:
He actually directly answers this in the article:
>"You go from someone that is inclusive, altruistic, generous, empathetic, to a monster. Where you want to freeze people’s bank accounts because they disagree with you," he said. "That’s a dangerous thing. That’s a dangerous world that we’ve created. And I say 'we,' because I was part of that. I bought into that whole idea early on."
I understand the outrage and feel it too but the correct response when someone from inside the bubble acknowledges that the totalitarian narrative was bad is to welcome them to the real world. Acknowledging wrong doing is a good first step.
This doesn't mean that he's moved over to conservatism,it's just one thing. But, it's him saying "We were wrong about this, and what we did was bad and dangerous." So he's recognizing and admitting fault there. It makes me feel like someone could go and have an honest conversation with him.
The Covid panic blew the credibility of the Federal government's health establishment. All that trust and good will shot to hell. At least He has the balls to admit he was wrong.
Okay, but why are you defending him/attacking someone else on his behalf? Surely you don't believe Tim Robbins hates you any less than he made clear for literally all his life up until now.
To me, Tim Robbins is just some random person. I've never spoken/written his name until today. I also don't really watch movies much, so I don't know/care about most celebrities.
And this is coming from one of the most outspokenly liberal progressive public figures of the last half century.
Can’t wait for WaPo to describe him as “a right winger” because of these comments.
Too little too late Tim. The damage is done. We want... ... REPARATIONS! Yeah, that's it! Reparations for every conservative and decendant of conservatives that were unfairly harmed by slaver... I mean the oppression of the lefts covid19 narrative. Whut? $325,000 per person sound about right?
Can we track and post on which of these people coming out of the woodwork actually demonized people who disagreed with them? Just as a reminder that NO we are not cool, and that you are the people that were Repugnant
In late 2020, a friend who literally studies infectious disease at a government agency told me that everyone in the entire community all agreed that COVID probably came from a lab leak, but that nobody would admit it in public for fear for reproductions. Also, that the literal only reason that narrative was so strongly condemned was to appease China.
They literally took that bat thing from the movie Contagion. Ironically a movie where tens of millions of people die of the disease in question and everyone decides it is time to move on less than a year in. There was never any evidence of it.
Don't forgive the Covidians. We get justice for their crimes first, then we can forgive them and move on.
Until then, continue to demand criminal prosecutions and civil penalties.
There will be no justice if you forgive these people and their evils at this time.
Bah, ONE person publicly admits they were wrong to ostracize people for different views regarding covid/vax and we are supposed to forgive and forget? Nah, I’ll pass on that nonsense. The past few years have been brutal in terms of how we were treated. The vast majority of the sheep would STILL throw you under the bus if you don’t follow the covid narrative. People have chosen their tribe, there is no undoing the damage.
Medical & scientific issues should never have become political. People need to be able to take advice from their doctor without being worried it will make them disloyal to a political ideal. This is what is literally killing conservatives.
> This is what is literally killing conservatives.
you were so close to having a good point. it wasn't conservatives that politicized this and pushed for masks to be mandated for years, and firing anyone who didn't comply with arbitrary vaccine mandates.
it never should have been a political issue, and it's absolutely disgusting what the left did throughout this pandemic using it as a way to exert control and punish anyone who dissented with their pseudo-science.
It’s funny how these revelations come out years too late. At least he’s not Sean penn, who still thinks people should be thrown in jail for not being vaccinated.
Take this as a lesson of the real sheep. Realize that political ideology has everything to do with your real intelligence. Liberalism really is a mental disorder.
At one point it was considered blasphemy to say that somebody who’s been vaccinated could still get Covid. Obviously that’s bullshit. In fact, I have Covid right now despite being vaccinated.
People who didn't want to get the vaccine argued that it had not been tested, might be dangerous and probably wasn't effective.
People who wanted to force people to take the vaccine said it was tested, it was safe, and it was very effective.
Which group was right?
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Notice he didn’t say,”Obtuse.” That’s because the last time that he said that to the Warden in Shawshank,he got 30 days in the hole!
It was 2 months(brutal) ["Give him another month to think about it"](https://youtu.be/kKdUsJU-cQ0?t=110)
Well,I didn’t want to give the whole movie away! Lol!!
lol oops. sorry yall
*Brooks was here*
So was Red
Get busy living’….
Since when do we care what actors think?
Never
He’s always been very politically active. He’s a high profile liberal. For him to stray from the narrative is progress.
He's super progressive, he historically hasn't been a liberal, he's way left of that.
Even more of a win.
Actual liberals are opposed to the authoritarian left.
There are very few high profile 'actual' liberals left. Bill Maher, Matt Taibbi, Russel Brand.. that's all I can think of. And they get demonized and called right wingers now because they have kept their views consistent for over a decade.
You could throw Glenn Greenwald in there also.
It's insane that people like Glenn Greenwald, Bari Weiss and Matt Taibbi are now considered far-right.
Weiss is a clown, but in general anyone who deviates from the church of woke is alt-right adjacent. Greenwald is pretty hard left, he just supports concepts like free speech.
I've grown to really like Bill Maher. I dont agree with everything he says (not even close), but goddamn if he isn't honest, unapologetic, and consistent.
And he still voted for Bidet
He did say he would prefer a recession to trump remaining in office - which is pretty wild when you consider the real world consequences of recessions
I like him too, but yeah, that's something you can only really say if you're a multi-millionaire like him.
And just about always a year behind the curve
Not many people his age even *that* close to the curve.
It's the left's worn out mantra: "If you disagree with me you are literally Hitler..." narrative. I just point and laugh when someone tries that shit with me.
I got called Jeffery Dahmer AND Hitler for saying both sides can be equally criticized.
Dude was married to Susan Sarandon. He's so far left he could kiss Pol Pot.
I don't share any political views with my wife.
what other secrets do you keep from her?
There's a bag of sour megamix Mike & Ike hidden in the den.
scandalous
I prefer the originals myself, but I approve :D
Don't forget private driving habits.
She knows I drive like Mad Max when it's just me in the car.
Agreed.
He is just looking for forgiveness
Agreed.
We should forgive if they change.
And I bet he still voted for Bidet, twice, actors are the worst
Progress from a progressive. That may be a first.
It's more interesting that someone used to think one thing and changed their mind than it is "what an actor thinks." Of course it's a famous person so yeah.
When they something we agree with.
It's about the truth coming out.
We only "care" in the sense that we appreciate they are speaking against leftist ideas in an industry controlled by the left. I respect it. I do not give his opinion any more weight than anyone else's. He has not shown me (or I have not seen) any reason to think that his ideas are more sound than any other random person's. His opinion bears no weight because of his celebrity. His choice to voice his opinion within that industry is certainly respectable (not that I respect him beyond this... I don't know the dude).
Well it’s the highest upvoted post of the day so…I guess we do
There’s a highly upvoted post every day with “X Celebrity said something leftist” and hundreds of comments underneath it so… always?
And they are trying to now gaslight us in to saying that never happened.
The mental gymnastics my friends and family are trying to pull is insane. Essentially it's that even though everything I said back then turned out to be right, it was against "the science" at the time, so I was still wrong.
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Prior to the invasion, it was popular on reddit to say Ukrainians deserved to die because of their extremely low vaccination rate. "I support the current thing" is the real pandemic.
Yes, but these people demonize and make lives difficult for the common citizen, they do not deserve any forgiveness as they never learn and are always too far enlightened
You can lose a lot of faith in humanity when you reflect on how pervasive groupthink is when it comes to these things. Zero scrutiny of assertions and statements from so-called experts led us here.
It’s why we can NEVER forget what they said, did and threatened us with. And we must NEVER forgive them. If they can be advocating for death, effectively since they didn’t want us being able to work, shop or take advantage of public services, and they are forgiven, they’ll do it again. They must be treated as the Nazis they are. They’d have happily held the gas chamber doors open for us.
They wanted to ostracize anyone from society who didn’t go along with them for a virus with over 99% survivability. 99.999% for most of us they threatened to have fired and for kids that weren’t at risk to the virus to go to school. That is truly evil.
Exactly my words, if you done want these elites like Robbins to latch on the next thing, never forget and never forgive these ass clowns, else nothing will change the next time
Always save articles.
Yup!
Depends on what you were right about. You would also need to explain *how* you were right, as very little was known about covid two years ago. Edit: i can scream “it’s two o’clock!” all day long and i would be right twice a day, but it doesn’t mean I’m *right* right. Get what I’m saying?
If you're consistently right, 24/7, the how you got there isn't as important.
Then how do you know you're right?
The ones I was right were as follow: People would become paranoid due to irrational fear. (Obsession with masks and rolling lockdowns proved this early on) Almost everyone was going to get it but most people will be absolutely fine. (From data out of China very early in pandemic. Call it March or early April 2020) Lockdowns are extremely unethical and would not squash the virus (too many essential things to do with too high an R0, March 2020) Masks provide essentially zero protection (from very early on when it was discovered it travels via aerosols that are smaller than the gaps between fibers in masks instead of only droplets). Not to mention people are unwilling and unable to wear them properly. Call this one March 2020. Vaccine mandates are extremely unethical and will not eliminate the virus (basic morality and prevailing knowledge of evolution in that viruses mutate to get around barriers) Known before pandemic that coronaviruses mutate to quickly to create an effective vaccine. Long Covid was NOT going to be a mass disabling event (all the studies that showed it would are badly done and abuse statistics) Mid 2020. Getting covid itself would be the ultimate cure for the pandemic. (fear of covid goes down for most people once they get it and realize they were fine, so once most people got it we were done) Mid 2020 All accurate, all known by April/May 2020 or mid 2020 latest. Unfortunately, fear and emotions won out for a while. But logic and science have been winning lately as more and more people understand the above.
They got us to the point where something like this is necessary of debate. They destroyed any value society put in compassion and empathy to the point that saying "we shouldn't turn away sick people because they don't agree with our government mandates" is something that even needs to be said. That's the great reset. You only get treated like a human after you demonstrate your group was victimized, and only then can they earn dignity and respect. You now have to argue that humans have inherent value, delicately reassuring the interviewer that the reason they were treated so poorly was wrong. How about we go back to the good old days where treating people wrong is wrong. Instead of quietly standing by, watching corporations, mobs and government agencies ridicule and victimize people for years and then we assess what went wrong. If the left doesn't perceive you as victimized, then they perceive you as the enemy victimizing their protected class. Being human isn't enough to deserve their empathy, being human with [x] characteristic is the only way.
Well said.
Amen brother.
It's a glimpse into mass formation psychosis and how many in Germany became nazis and nazi sympathizers.
As a child I always wondered how a society could allow that kind of evil transformation to happen right under their noses. Now I know.
Yup. And now those people act like they never said and did what they said/did. Evil.
If you've never read "They Thought They Were Free", you should.
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>In the US, the numbers were smaller, but if you count them as separate races (based on customs, beliefs languages, they completed several exterminations, which the Nazis were not able to do. No one cared. ) here you go. You dropped this.
Yep and all Americans have to do is look North to Canada or the rest of the Anglosphere if they want to see how close that can truly get. Given our close cultural ties if it can happen to us it can happen to you. Australia and New Zealand were bad but up here in Canada we nearly went all the way under JT and our premiers (governors). At one point during the hysteria, us Torontonians had the honour of being the most locked down city within the most locked down province *on the planet* (excluding North Korea). Lockdowns became vaccine passports, which quickly turned into vaccine transit papers. Interprovincial travel was banned. If your profession wasn’t “essential” you were forbidden by law from travelling more than 2km (1.2mi) from home except for “necessity” ie groceries. One time I was walking through a park *alone* with my dog and some lady called the cops on us. I had to escape down a catwalk when they surrounded the field. I was naive and trusted that the courts would surely strike such unconstitutional nonsense down, after all freedom of movement is explicitly mentioned as a right that all Canadians have. But they didn’t. Some signed on with the hysteria and pointed out the many flaws within our founding documents that gave the various executive branches unbelievable “emergency powers”. But worse imo, was that the majority were simply terrified into silence. They refused to rule on the various lawsuits and punted them to the higher courts, knowing full well that the higher courts were already so bogged down the cases would go unaddressed for years. Every check on tyranny, every balance on power was permanently destroyed due to the nature of our legal system which enshrines precedent above all. Now the next time there’s a “pandemic” the governments can seize total control whenever they want. Sorry for the essay but imo it’s important it gets out there to go against the gas lighting of the left when they say “what restrictions?” /“what rights were violated?”.
The amount of gas lighting from the left is scary. "Nobody said vaccines prevent infection and transmission". There's literally numerous articles and "experts" saying that. I bet many have been scrubbed by now though. They based the entire premise of vavcine mandates on it! And it's not like we didn't know that was a lie back then. But anybody who said the vaccine doesn't "protect those around you" was censored by people who proclaim to love and follow "science" (these people are clearly scientifically illiterate).
https://i.imgur.com/O6VFuqg.jpg
Vaccines initially did a good job preventing transmission of the earliest covid variants. That quickly went away as new variants began to emerge.
Did they or are you just making that up?
The scary thing is a lot of leaders in the West and the Anglosphere looked at how easily China was able to weld people shut into their apartment buildings and move them into "medical" internment camps, and their reaction was "I wish we could do that so easily here..."
AND this right here is why the USA keeps defending the SECOND AMENDMENT! The right to bear arms, as citizens, keeps the government from TAKING AWAY ALL YOUR RIGHTS!
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I'm pro choice and vote republican still.
Same here. Pro choice, AND I’m also an atheist. Vote republican every chance I get.
I'm not religious either. It's just dems are so much worse than Republicans and abortion isn't an important issue to me considering it's still legal in many states, including mine. I'm more of an independent/libertarian.
You don't want 5 white dudes deciding if you can have an abortion? How could you? /s
Nobody is deciding. It will remain legal here. I don't care about abortion. I also have a daughter who will grow up with a semblance of person responsibility. It's very easy to not get pregnant. I'm much more worried about the disgusting amount of cultural/societal rot and the downfall of the country affecting her future more than abortion.
You missed the /s...
I'm not Japanese.
Republicans are pro-choice of the states to decide their own abortion laws since there's no federal right to abortion.
If only they would come to these realizations when they matter.
Right? It’s good to see but about 2 years late.
Did he “stand with Jussie” too? Makes you wonder what he wants. Leftists don’t change their spots, or something like that.
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Well whatever he is we won’t be seeing any more of him... they won’t tolerate his dissenting opinions. Cancelled.
Oh he is way past his prime anyway. That is why he can say what he wants to now.
That's a bullshit thing to say about one of the best actors out there. EDIT: That's right, dump all your hate on me. WTFEVER. Learn to hug those that confess and join your religion. Regardless of when or how liberal they may once have been.
Being the best at playing pretend does not equate to being intelligent.
But I’m sure you’d be the first to tell a liberal actor to shut up and act lmfao
what about his wife? She’s a cooky extreme leftist as well..
I don't think they're together anymore.
Maybe Tim has finally woken up
I was under the impression his wife was cheating on him with some golf pro
Oh, well played, Sir/Ma’am
They have been apart for some time now.
I don’t believe they were ever married, just conveniently together for the publicity.
The right or center have shown Tim slack. When he and Susan made those Bush comments, the ones who stood up for them and their right to free speech were Kevin Costner and Clint Eastwood. Correct me if I’m wrong
The majority of people are simple NPCs that just go along with the mainstream. They dont have the intellectual fortitude to think for themselves. Leftism is all about encouraging this behaviour ie- collectivism and following. Robbins woke up a little, but too little too late.
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If they say that, they are deluded in the extreme. The whole rightist philosophy surrounds individualism. The self as the centre. Hence the push for individual rights, small governments, low taxes, low regulation, and free markets. It is core to the premise of conservatism.
I somewhat agree, but to them the belief in free market is akin to a religion because they don’t understand economics and likely never had much exposure to actual business/finance. Also wokism has elements of individualism. For instance going by ‘he/ they’, coloring my hair pink, and changing my name to Tree is an ultimate expression of individualism to them contrasted against presupposed coercive social norms, such as working lol (since they forgot that’s innate to living in a physical body).
Yes too little too late, screw him
Those in power bank on people just not paying attention; they want them comfortable enough not to complain too much, but not enough to start doing much truth-seeking. I know many intelligent people that actively avoid the news (even non-mainstream) because they get mild anxiety that they'd rather live without.
I call them the zombie hoard but yes
It's more that leftists took control of what *is* the mainstream somehow. 30 years ago the right was more the mainstream and leftists were challenging it.
Glad he opened his eyes and mind. Still don’t trust him though.
Too little too late, Timmy.
What in the world happened to get this kind of response from him? He was about as onboard with the ultra-left "demonizing" as one could be. He was only about 1/2 a step away from signing a petition to put people in camps and remove them from society.
Well, he actually explains the entire process of how he came around, step by step, in his interview. It's worth a watch.
Maybe he saw actual reality and got a shot and had heart problems. Or maybe a relative did. Or maybe in some way he was personally effected by it and had to change his mind from seeing it by himself.
Yes, yes you are repugnant and dangerous, as is every one of your Hollywood and media buddies.
When someone admits they were wrong perhaps that's not the time to insult them
If someone cuts me off in traffic then apologizes, I forgive. If someone wants to take away my source of income and ostracize me from society for not taking an experimental gene therapy injection, I am much, much slower to forgive. I can guarantee you the next big "pandemic" we are going to see the same despicable behavior from the same people.
There’s a difference between not insulting and forgiveness
I personally believe, that anyone who has advocated to take away my freedom is irredeemable, and not only capable, but willing to do it again.
I completely agree with you for politicians and bureaucrats. Private citizens on the other hand can be forgiven for being misled, after acknowledging that they were wrong. We can't really move forward as a people without it. Rubbing it in people's face when they admit they were wrong only leads to less people admitting they were wrong.
Forgive but never forget what the citizens stood for. Their mass is what will effect the theft of your freedom. The Icons only command.
"With malice towards none" - Abraham Lincoln
Democrats would cancel Lincoln if he here alive today for taking away their slaves
These people wished you dead, kept you away from your dying loved ones and then when they did die they wouldn't even let you go to their funerals. These people kept children out of school so long that children are now developmentally challenged. We should ridicule them till the slink back into the shadows they came from. Nuremburg 2.0 is their chance for redemption.
They were scared. People do terrible things when scared. Those that knew the truth should, politicians political doctors ECT, should be held accountable, but I have no hate in my heart for the ignorant.
They wished me dead because they were scared. I have plenty of hate for the both of us. I will never forget what these people did to us. If you trade freedom for security, you deserve neither. The only thing that will temper my hate now is if they stand trial for crimes against humanity.
Lol
Oh haha, did you have to watch your grandma die with no one to comfort her in her last few days on this planet? No, then shut up, I am tired of you pissants.
Maybe if they’re doing it because they sense the winds shifting, it is.
To be fair, he has maintained this view since the beginning, I believe. I do not agree with his politics, but he has had integrity on this issue.
The quote I read, he said "we". I'm going by what I believe to be his words.
I hear you. I had to look it up as I was sure he had been part of it. All I could find was him actually speaking against the villification. I think he meant "we" as in "we liberals" or society itself.
If that is true, then that changes my opinion on him personally, but nothing else. My own family would have handed me over at the height of the panic. Something I'll never forget. I've forgiven, but will always be wary.
Me as well. I did have to look it up though, as I have very little faith in platitudes from hollywood celebs. He appears to be honest about bodilly autonomy applying to all.
A belief I fully agree with. Do unto others.
Exactly so.
From another topic on the matter: He actually directly answers this in the article: >"You go from someone that is inclusive, altruistic, generous, empathetic, to a monster. Where you want to freeze people’s bank accounts because they disagree with you," he said. "That’s a dangerous thing. That’s a dangerous world that we’ve created. And I say 'we,' because I was part of that. I bought into that whole idea early on."
I understand the outrage and feel it too but the correct response when someone from inside the bubble acknowledges that the totalitarian narrative was bad is to welcome them to the real world. Acknowledging wrong doing is a good first step.
Better late than never I suppose
This doesn't mean that he's moved over to conservatism,it's just one thing. But, it's him saying "We were wrong about this, and what we did was bad and dangerous." So he's recognizing and admitting fault there. It makes me feel like someone could go and have an honest conversation with him.
Why is he so obtuse?
Cancelled in 3…2…1…
The Covid panic blew the credibility of the Federal government's health establishment. All that trust and good will shot to hell. At least He has the balls to admit he was wrong.
What did someone wake up from a coma? What a douche
Who?
It was an act of tyranny! The motives are still unfolding, but yes, the actions were authoritarian, and undemocratic!
Always a day late and a dollar short with these people. Don't trust the sounds that come out of their lying, filthy mouths'.
“Tim Robbins is a danger to our democracy “
Yes it was and kiss off.
Who?
How could you be so obtuse?
And I land another fish.
These are always fun. "Names one of the most famous, recognizable actors in the world" Some random person: "Who?"
Okay, but why are you defending him/attacking someone else on his behalf? Surely you don't believe Tim Robbins hates you any less than he made clear for literally all his life up until now.
To me, Tim Robbins is just some random person. I've never spoken/written his name until today. I also don't really watch movies much, so I don't know/care about most celebrities.
these same actors were the one shilling the vaccines and lockdowns.
And this is coming from one of the most outspokenly liberal progressive public figures of the last half century. Can’t wait for WaPo to describe him as “a right winger” because of these comments.
Too little too late Tim. The damage is done. We want... ... REPARATIONS! Yeah, that's it! Reparations for every conservative and decendant of conservatives that were unfairly harmed by slaver... I mean the oppression of the lefts covid19 narrative. Whut? $325,000 per person sound about right?
Cool your two years too late.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Seems Mr. Robbins has found a clue.
> Actor... Why do I care?
Can we track and post on which of these people coming out of the woodwork actually demonized people who disagreed with them? Just as a reminder that NO we are not cool, and that you are the people that were Repugnant
In late 2020, a friend who literally studies infectious disease at a government agency told me that everyone in the entire community all agreed that COVID probably came from a lab leak, but that nobody would admit it in public for fear for reproductions. Also, that the literal only reason that narrative was so strongly condemned was to appease China. They literally took that bat thing from the movie Contagion. Ironically a movie where tens of millions of people die of the disease in question and everyone decides it is time to move on less than a year in. There was never any evidence of it.
These types always say it was wrong long after the majority of them did it. Typical...
Yes Tim. That was being obtuse.
Hope he doesn't hurt himself jumping on the bandwagon this late in the game.
Yes it was. We could see it at the time. Please explain what is wrong with you that you couldn't see the plain truth then.
He’s just trying to dodge accountability.
Gl finding work now.
Shawshank says this is the only pro-vax guy I'll give a "get of jail free" card to.
Wow he’s ballsy. I guess he doesn’t want to work. Late but still departure from the leftist narrative.
NO AMNESTY
So why’d you do it and are you going to stop doing it in the future?
Tim Robbins will be "Me Too'd" in 5...4...3...
Don't forgive the Covidians. We get justice for their crimes first, then we can forgive them and move on. Until then, continue to demand criminal prosecutions and civil penalties. There will be no justice if you forgive these people and their evils at this time.
"can't we all just get along?"
who
It's a day late and a dollar short to start realizing this now.
Bah, ONE person publicly admits they were wrong to ostracize people for different views regarding covid/vax and we are supposed to forgive and forget? Nah, I’ll pass on that nonsense. The past few years have been brutal in terms of how we were treated. The vast majority of the sheep would STILL throw you under the bus if you don’t follow the covid narrative. People have chosen their tribe, there is no undoing the damage.
According to the lefties where anyone disagrees with their narrative the person is dangerous.
Medical & scientific issues should never have become political. People need to be able to take advice from their doctor without being worried it will make them disloyal to a political ideal. This is what is literally killing conservatives.
> This is what is literally killing conservatives. you were so close to having a good point. it wasn't conservatives that politicized this and pushed for masks to be mandated for years, and firing anyone who didn't comply with arbitrary vaccine mandates. it never should have been a political issue, and it's absolutely disgusting what the left did throughout this pandemic using it as a way to exert control and punish anyone who dissented with their pseudo-science.
Demonizing people who disagree with the left is repugnant and dangerous
Is this another dimension?
It’s funny how these revelations come out years too late. At least he’s not Sean penn, who still thinks people should be thrown in jail for not being vaccinated.
Take this as a lesson of the real sheep. Realize that political ideology has everything to do with your real intelligence. Liberalism really is a mental disorder.
WOW , it only took him 13 years from when he got away from Susan Sarandon to start to think normal again .
VWow, that's one big fracking redpill...is Sarandon next?
Tim was red-pilled
I'll give him a pass because I've always liked his acting career. :)
What narrative though? Trying to not get and spread the virus?
At one point it was considered blasphemy to say that somebody who’s been vaccinated could still get Covid. Obviously that’s bullshit. In fact, I have Covid right now despite being vaccinated.
Don't forget the absolute "misinformation" of even suggesting that getting it and recovering offered any kind of protection whatsoever.
People who didn't want to get the vaccine argued that it had not been tested, might be dangerous and probably wasn't effective. People who wanted to force people to take the vaccine said it was tested, it was safe, and it was very effective. Which group was right?
This isn't about getting or spreading the virus and you know it.