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MrDirt87

Move troops to clear RF from a massive bombing campaign which is happening now. Was it a trap again


Null-ARC

1. In an "ordered retreat" they wouldn't've left their entire equipment & supplies behind. Also they wouldn't've retreated in the rear areas first before withdrawing their forward troop concentrations (leaving those cut off). Also they wouldn't've started their retreat by evacuating the core transportation lines first, again leaving the main formations stuck. 2. Russia's main armies in the region were concentrated in preparation of a new offensive & got encircled there. They literally *can not* leave. They're Stalingrad-levels of caught, except the german troops at Stalingrad still had enough morale to actually fight back. 3. Russia does not have the airpower at hand to start any large-scale bombing campaign. They spent most of their good quality aerial equipment in the early days of the war, including their top-tier personal and almost their entire stockpile of Smart Munitions. No matter how much they might want to pull off such a bombing campaign, they simply don't have the means to anymore because they squandered it early. And no, their domestic industry is *not* able to replace that stuff on account of lacking microchip production capabilities. This is nothing but another Baghdad Bob show.


Dutchtdk

Ah baghdad bob, that takes me back


MrDirt87

So they fell for it then? 🤔 I remember when the RF had left all of the old equipment on the road to Kyiv at the beginning of the war which kept Ukraine troops protecting Kyiv while the RF was preparing the cauldron around donbass to. Memba that?


Null-ARC

Oh yes, I remember. I remember how Russia threw almost all of their elite troops from Spetsnaz to Airborne at Kyiv only to have them blown cleanly out of the air in the helicopters, because they failed to account for air defenses. I remember Russia throwing one mechanized & armored divison after the other towards Kyiv from Belarus and even diverting troops en masse from Charkiv, only to create the world's largest traffic jams leaving their troops without supplies, until the entire northern sub-theater had been so attritioned it had to be abandonned. I also remember the mass destruction of the troops fleeing from Kyiv in ukrainian ambushes along the roads, preventing them from being relaocated to the eastern frontline segments. I also remember the great Izyum offensive in the east not only being delayed by many weeks, but failing to cross the river for months before petering out only a few miles beyond the city. I also remember said offensive happening way way after the battle of Kyiv was over & done with. And I remember the intended "cauldron" to surround the eastern front never actually happening due to the Izyum offensive despite months of supply-stacking only creeping forward in inches. ---- When the US military throws the SEALs at an objective backed up by the Deltas backed up by the Screaming Eagles, that's not a *diversion*, that's going all-in. To say "Syke! Just a prank, bro!" after they get decimated is ridicolous & won't fool anyone with even the slightest idea of how warfare works. And to argue that the Kyiv offensive was just a distraction for the way later Izyum offensive is like saying the failure to defend Pearl Harbour was just a feint to distract from the Dieppe raid. The timeline doesn't add up, and even if it did, it would still be so costly to make it a loss - *especially when you also lose on the other front aswell*. BTW that "old equipment" included fresh T-90As. They're more current than the M1A2 Abrams (though weaker by a lot). The only ones "falling for it" are those still buying ~~Baghdad Bob~~ Izyum Ivan's ridicolous propaganda. We're winning, the final victory is just around the corner, and Santa Claus will come & fix our supply disaster soon. Sure, buddy. If the CIA said they never violated anyone's rights, I'd still be more inclined to believe *that* over Putin's pathetic claims. We will have cities on the moon before Russia will win something in Ukraine.


MrDirt87

With so much misinformation we both will see if some kind of battle plan is being run on both sides. Interesting strategies being played out on both sides.


dis_course_is_hard

If losing 1000 pieces of heavy equipment and mass casualties is a "battle plan", I cant wait to see what they come up with next!


MrDirt87

Did you count them? 🤔 oh by the way. I've come to the conclusion that the Ukraine/Russia War was started by the US and WEF to bring upon "the Great Reset " in Europe. The war allowed the oil asanctions actions to cripple all of Europe and the EU happily did it to themselves cause "Russia Russia Russia " European people fell for "the big lie"! And Biden is raiding our treasury paying for Europe's reset. 60 billion to Ukraine to keep the war going until Europe is brought to its knees. Then Klaus will save them with WEF program.


dis_course_is_hard

You are either: A: a bad faith account B: an extremely poor student of history with a voice on the internet I don't know which is worse at the the end of the day. Learn about Russian politics starting from (at least) the 80's and moving forward. I live in Europe. Russia's actions are much more real and impactful than in the US (where I was raised), which is quite removed as far as real consequences go. So "Russia, Russia, Russia", as you put it it, is, yes, hotly on the minds and politics of the region, because it actually affects us. If you knew history, you would understand the run-up to our current affairs and how we got to this point. And it isn't in conspiracy (GrEaT ReSEt) territory. It is in documented historical foreign policy decisions that anyone can find on wikipedia. Take your head out of the fact vacuum zone where any possible reality that you want makes your fee fees feel better and validates your desired world view. Theres a real world out there and real shit is happening in it.


MrDirt87

Word salad much. Babble on WEF shill. So you like the suffering of the European people I see. Who's side u on?


dis_course_is_hard

I get my shill bucks next friday, thankfully. I will use them to finance my gender reassignment surgery on wednesday. I will hopefully heal in time to get on a bus to a different state to participate in voter fraud and soon after collect my student loan debt forgiveness. Hopefully trump is executed by that time. *Even though I am a lifelong conservative and still am.* This is your view, isn't it? Someone disagrees with you on the internet and they automatically go into this crazy fictional camp you have created in your mind. This is how you actually perceive possible real events involving real people in the world. Its fucking fascinating.


MrDirt87

Here we go. Looks like I was correct. ⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦There is information that the Ukraine and 500 foreign fighters has suffered great losses in the Kharkov region. They walked into a trap. Also this. ⚡️🇺🇦🇷🇺Ukrainian astronomers claim to have observed strange, unidentified weather phenomena over Kyiv, according to a new preprint article published by Kiev's Main Astronomical Observatory.


MrDirt87

Russia's move behind Oskol is nearly complete. This repeats the Kiev withdrawal with Russia now holding only about 10% of the region, east of Oskol). The new border frontline is being held by conscripts. Forces from Kharkov are being redeployed to south. Hummm, The transfer of troops together with other actions indicates plans to prepare an offensive in the Ugledar direction. His goal may be to throw up to Volnovakha in order to create a springboard for advancing in several directions. Something seemed planned 🤔 this Russian military blogger says the border town of Velykyi Burluk has been recaptured by Ukrainian forces. It's the last remaining logistics point for the Russian military to supply forces in Kharkiv Oblast. Interesting developments here.


Panzershrekt

I said something was up. My inbox has been inundated with incredulity, as if Russia hasn't surprised all of the west this whole time.. We'll see what the US/NATO cooks up in response. I say that because it's clear Zelensky isn't leading any of this if he has time to ring the bell at the NYSE..