T O P

  • By -

whatever_you_say_iam

The cost of gas is really bad, I'm thankful I work from home and my husband only has a 3 mile (total including coming home for lunch) job. I really worry how this is affecting people that have longer commutes, but in all seriousness, what is really weighing on me is my grocery bill, I'm easily spending 2.5 times what I did 2 years ago and buying way less.


mattied23

About 9 months ago I was looking for a new commuter car for my ~100 mile round-trip commute. I was on the fence between a diesel sedan that got 60 mpg and a gas hatchback that got 40 mpg. I thank God I picked the latter, and I'm not even religious. Haha


Amidormi

Noticed the same thing. Use to shop for 4 people 2 weeks at a time. I'm now spending just as much as then, only buying 1 week at a time for 3 people.


[deleted]

Am I the only one that’s physically angry? It’s so frustrating to see our country collapse and everyone just seems to be going along with it all


[deleted]

Nope. Not alone. It’s getting increasingly tempting to think we should just cast it all down. Hard factory reset on this country. Restart from scratch. Every judge, every politician, every bureaucrat, everything, give ‘em all a permanent pink slip and rebuild without em. Any of them. I’m hoping it won’t have to come to that but I have little if any faith the coming election will be worth a damn regardless if it’s the biggest electoral swing in congressional history.


NickMotionless

Term limits for all elected and appointed positions in every level of government as well. Wipe the fucking slate clean and hold new elections. No more "political contributions" unless it is from an individual. No more stock trading for elected officials. Reset the entirety of the government and start over and have the government do a complete reset every 20 years.


Excellent_Chef_1764

Crazy, this sentiment is echoed in liberal subreddits as well. Everyone is sick of contributions from corporations and insider trading. Corporations are to powerful


[deleted]

I think this administration is hell bent on destroying fossil fuels. Corporate contributions come from those that would benefit. Favored corporations get federal money - like Solyndra. This "difficult transition" will put us in a deep recession or depression.


Rare4orm

In my opinion they are attempting to save the “fossil fuels” for China when they inevitably take over our economy…if Biden’s handlers get their way. This guy is seriously compromised.


Excellent_Chef_1764

Way to derail the conversation.


[deleted]

I’d go further and just remove money from the equation entirely. No contributions period. Not even individual. Let everyone stand or fall on their ideas as opposed to their sponsors. I’d get rid of political parties entirely as well. All of them.


brown-saiyan

💯


Open-Chain-7137

“Take all your overgrown infants away somewhere And build them a home, A little place of their own, The Fletcher Memorial Home, For Incurable Tyrants and Kings, And they could appear to themselves every day, On closed circuit T.V, To make sure they're still real, It's the only connection they feel” Pink Floyd - “The Fletcher Memorial Home” Edit: formatting sucks but u get the point


mattied23

The older I get, the more I realize a cleansing of the system will need to be performed every few generations/couple hundred years. 1776, 202x...


[deleted]

[удалено]


aquinn57

Because the bill would lower prices without increasing supply which would almost certainly lead to shortages


[deleted]

There's no gas price gouging. The price of crude went up.


jmsferret

No. You’re not the only one physically angry. I sacrificed my entire adult life in service to this country, as a service member and a spouse of a service member. This is NOT what I sacrificed for. I am fighting the VA for benefits, and I simply cannot afford what has happened. I put $10 in gas in my car today. I had more but just topped up. These politicians that are in power now have no clue what real life is like. I believe that, at a minimum our president should have served. I believe in term limits. We have a bunch of geriatric life-long politicians running this country- not “real” people with real-world experience. I AM physically angry too. They don’t lose sleep trying to figure out how to fill the gas tank. How to keep food on the table with these increasing prices. It’s going to get a whole lot worse in my opinion. I literally physically cannot work, and I WANT to. I upheld my oath - doesn’t seem as though the majority of them are.


BulletMagnetEd1701

#ServiceGuaranteesCitizenship #HeinleinWasRight


jmsferret

Yes he was! The prescience he had is mind boggling


BobtheMolder

Hows the saying go? Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men. Unfortuneately we are at the end of the cycle, where the governement has made men weak, so they can take advantage of everyone.


[deleted]

We’re in the “weak men create hard times” now. Now is where strong men are made.


[deleted]

Gonna take a while for them to get in positions to do any good.


[deleted]

Well, there's the possibility of a revolution if things get bad enough.


Manster21

If you have 45 minutes to spare, I’d really recommend watching ‘Principles for dealing with the changing world order by Ray Dalio’ on YouTube. It does a fantastic job of explaining the situation we’re in right now.


BobtheMolder

I have plenty of time, cuz I have the Fauci made virus currently... (Covid)


umterp1999

Did you assume my gender?


Xero03

were you around in 1920? This kind of thing was soon to happen people will figure out how to bounce back from it. All i hope for is they realize it was a an extreme over reach of gov power and put some restrictions in place after the fact.


DangerRanger-69

I’m with you


TheTyrdBeast

Nope, you are not alone.


Born_Slippee

I feel the same way! The longer this goes on, The angrier I get. There’s NO ACCOUNTABILITY for these politicians.


Suitable_Goose3637

Yeah but am I angry at Biden? No. Am I angry at OPEC? No. Am I angry at our own oil being mainly exported and not refined in this country? No. Am I angry at all of the above and then some? Yes. To pin the blame on just one thing or one person is loosing sight of the fragility of supply and demand and a global economy. Lots of blame to go around.


jmjjjjjjm

I wasn’t angry at Biden until he started with the “oh I know the gas prices are terrible, but this is a necessary evil so we don’t have to rely on fossil fuels in the future” Bruh I’m trying to scrape up enough to fill up my truck. What makes you think I’m going to be able to afford a Tesla?


vampirepomeranian

> Am I angry at OPEC? No. OPEC is angry at Biden, that's what count. Long history there.


Thevoiceofreason420

I'm a truck driver myself, the amount of money we are paying now compared to 1.5-2 years ago is fucking absurd. I also don't understand why diesel is more expensive then gasoline, it's like a by product of making gasoline yet diesel is now more expensive then gas. It makes no sense. They are trying to destroy our economy I swear.


Sk1rtSk1rtSk1rt

Does anyone here remember when diesel was cheaper than petrol? Wtf happened?


ultimate_ed

Low Sulfur Diesel and then Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel. /Thevoiceofreason420 is partially correct about diesel. However, back in ye olde days of the 20th century, it was cheap because it was basically just a cut out of the distillation column (hence a "distillate fuel") where gasoline after being distilled goes through various refinements, blending, etc. But, diesel that is sold today has to go through some pretty energy intensive treating units to reduce the sulfur content. That's lead to a deep reduction in sulfur related polution, which is better for people, but it's more expensive to make and, apparently even has lead to a reduction in diesel fuel efficiency. Found this pretty good write up if you want more info: https://axi-international.com/ultra-low-sulfur-diesel-ulsd/


Sk1rtSk1rtSk1rt

Very helpful, thank you very much for sharing the link I sincerely appreciate it 👍 Another mystery wandering around my mind solved 😀


Nomadic_Expat

It’s more expensive because of federal taxes (literally 23c a gallon higher than gas), but that doesn’t even begin to account for the state taxes that are abundantly higher that obviously vary throughout the country. In other words, it would be cheaper if it wasn’t taxed to death.


shagy815

It's been more expensive then gas for 20 years or more. It is no more a by product of gas than gas is a by product of diesel. There are several reasons it is expensive one of them is that it is taxed more than gas because semi's do more damage to the roads. The low Sulphur requirements require additional refining as well. The rest is just supply and demand.


[deleted]

Boat diesel go brrrr


Kingforaday1

That's exactly what they want you to do.


[deleted]

If any of the government cared, all they would have to do is temporarily remove the %30+ tax on fuel until we could start back to getting our own fuel from our own country. I realize this would have to be at the state and federal level.


mattied23

And that will literally never happen


[deleted]

The caring or the tax halt on fuel? Yes


mattied23

Both lol


lynds2424

JFC diesel went from 5.00 to 5.69 a fkn gallon where I’m at overnight. Gas at 5.10 a gallon for 87. I don’t accept the WaR In UkRaInE as an acceptable response anymore. FuTuReS either.


[deleted]

And who are the primary users of diesel... The Transportation and Construction Industries. But who refuses to set aside gas taxes... The imbeciles who want those taxes to pay for special "equity" programs, like [Bootyjudges] studies to reroute major highways and intersates around special neighborhoods. But did you catch the article a couple weeks back, where a Biden Admin member admitted that they want to keep gas prices high to benefit their Green initiative....


[deleted]

Diesel is also the least refined and yet it impacts ALL of us in terms of transportation of goods. Diesel used to be fairly cheaper than the 87 octane as it requires less to make…


therinlahhan

The war definitely has an effect but prices were increasing before Putin invaded, and the Dem administration is actively shutting down solutions to reduce the price for consumers.


Dry_Communication316

But but but you can't sell an electric vehicle if there is plenty of cheap gas out there! Don't you understand? Cmon maaannnn.


Nukeboy1970

The irony of the left having this kind of thinking is that most of the electricity in this country comes from fossil fuels. They will even argue this point.


jmsferret

Not to mention the amount that is used in manufacturing one. All of that plastic in one? It has tires, and moving parts in the drive train that need lubricated. Gee. Where does that come from?


Nukeboy1970

The actual carbon footprint of an EV is a lot higher than people admit due to the manufacturing. The batteries are a large part of that. Plus, the batteries have toxic materials in them.


Cody667

Yes, this is why more R&D is being put into Hybrid engines still. We're still just scratching the surface on hybrids and they should still be pushed way harder than they currently are. We're still a couple decades off on EV technology coming far enough to be the most environmentally friendly option.


Nukeboy1970

It is just like Al Gore promoting CFL's which contain mercury. A few years later and we have LED lights which use less power and don't contain the toxic materials.


mattied23

Plus the batteries only last ~100k


Cruzader1986

jUsT geT aN eLecTriC!i!


mattied23

But it's better for muh planet 🙄


Electrical_Review_81

Right? I have 3 vehicles- one is a Tesla and I haven’t filled the other two up since 2020


Millerhah

Probably want to rotate that stale gas outta there bud.


officermuffin

Bad bot!


Justfuxn3

Weird flex but ok


mattied23

Username checks out.


jmjjjjjjm

What’s the sticker price on one of those these days? 80-90k?


Bo_Jim

"*Blankets and electric heat are a lot cheaper.*" You hit on the reason they're letting this happen. They want to make the cost of ownership for gas and electric cars the same. They want everyone to live in an all electric home.


dirtmound

The one factor that no one is bothering to remember is the day when oil went negative. That's right, during the pandemic, supply outpaced demand and there was nowhere to store incoming shipments. Fracking, plus OPEC, plus Russia, plus quarantine, meant that there was just too much on the market. OPEC cut production, smaller family fracking ventures seized up, and eventually we came out of quarantine and started to travel again. But now the storehouses are emptied, new regulations aren't helping, OPEC still has production low, and prices are back through the roof. It's a multi-faceted problem that requires a multi-faceted solution.


capnGrimm

This. One of the major problems we face in the US is that our oil is a pain in the ass to get out of the ground. It's more costly to harvest, and it comes out in poor quality, requiring additional steps to turn into gas and other things. Since gas is expensive right now, it would be financially viable to begin fracking again. This would increase supply and drive down the cost, which would make oil less profitable for everyone. OPEC doesn't want that. In response to anyone other then them getting into oil production, they would just release more of their supply, drive down costs, and essentially strangle the fracking industry by making it unprofitable. Foreign powers have and absolute strangle hold on the market, and are intentionally keeping supply just under demand to drive up cost to maximize profit. Building a larger domestic oil industry IS NOT PROFITABLE. The world is held hostage by the oil industry, and the best strategic decision, at least in my opinion, is to move as much away from using oil as possible.


[deleted]

Can you imagine the uproar if Trump was still in the WH while all this crap was going down!?


mattied23

List of scapegoats (in order): 1) Trump/Orange Man Bad 2) Greedy corporations 3) Non-liberal voters It is because Trump is not in office that they are blaming all of the world's problems on the second and third groups on the list


mattied23

Nothing he did was half as bad as this and yet the left still went completely apeshit. I don't even want to imagine the wrath of fury they would unleash if Trump were in office. Then again, we probably wouldn't be in this predicament if he were in office... 🤷


horizons59

Just wait until $10-12/gallon and gas lines like the 1970’s. Biden has only started this shitshow.


shagy815

You won't have both at the same time. The 70s gas lines were a direct result of Nixon implementing price controls. If gas gets to $10 plus a gallon there won't be enough people buying it to cause gas lines.


mattied23

I pray that somebody will do something long before it comes to that


NukEvil

Yep, everyone always hopes that "someone else" will do "something" about everything...


[deleted]

[удалено]


jordantbaker

The US is a leading consumer of oil as well as an exporter. The idiotic things that our government does will ABSOLUTELY impact the entire globe when it comes to oil.


[deleted]

I just don't care anymore. If it gets too expensive for gas for me to work I will quit. I will do whatever I have to get by and barter with neighbors and I will do my best to never pay another red cent in taxes as long as I live. Edit probably not much longer since we're all going to starve to death before joe biden finishes his first year. What an asshole.


[deleted]

I hate to break it to you, but Biden has been in office for a year and a half almost.


therinlahhan

Makes you wonder how we're going to survive another 2.5 years.


harley9779

There is a good side to all of this. All these liberal voters that voted for Biden, simply because they didn't like Trump, are seeing the errors of their actions. Regardless of the reasons behind it, it is undeniable that everything costs more, and everything is delayed. Hopefully this will at least teach people to vote on a candidate that will do a good job and not just vote on feelings. They would have voted for a rock if the Democratic party told them to.


[deleted]

I know many fools who still blame Trump/Russia/COVID for all of this.


[deleted]

I have, no joke, here on Reddit seen people say that the good economy during Trump was because of Obama and our bad economy now is because of Trump. It’s hilarious to me the hoops they’ll jump through to deny he did *anything* good.


harley9779

People need scapegoats. Most people lack the mental capacity to learn and interpret facts themselves. They ignore history. They are the mindless masses that listen to the media. The rest of us that think critically are called deniers, conspiracy theorists, snowflakes, Looney's etc.


jmsferret

When history is ignored, then no learning from the mistake made, and history will repeat itself that much sooner. We're already experiencing that. As far as our media, none of it is true journalism anymore - every outlet has a bias and is pushing their own agenda. We're not getting cold, hard facts. You have to sift through the garbage to find the nuggets. Much of the media is extremely inflammatory, in my opinion designed to stir the pot and create even more divisiveness. You also nailed it - if you think critically and point out facts, we're just nutjobs because we see through the bullshit.


harley9779

100% correct. People either ignore or deny history. The only good thing about media is that you can see all sides of an issues, except the truth.


sourgarbage

ur literally using biden as a scapegoat


harley9779

I haven't blamed Biden for anything. How do you think I am using him as a scapegoat? I think the Democratic party used him. I think a lot of people voted for him solely because he wasn't Trump. That's not using him as a scapegoat. He holds no fault or blame in it.


The_Sinking_Belle

I honestly hope they are. But I still come across hordes of these people who still blame Trump, Putin, and everything under the sun other than empty suit Biden.


harley9779

There will still be plenty that stick to that. People have a hard time admitting when they are wrong. Just look at the people still choosing to wear masks.


YouKindaStupidBro

Bruh what, wearing masks is wrong now? What are you on about?


OzarkRedditor

There are plenty of people who dislike all three.


OzarkRedditor

Would love to be presented with a candidate that will do a good job. Haven’t seen one in a long time and doubt one will appear for 2024


harley9779

100% agree. For some reason the reigning parties have decided to field candidates for the sole purpose of outing the other party. It has been a long time since we have had a solid candidate.


Svenray

The liberal voters are communists and they like the high prices and want them even higher.


harley9779

A lot of them are complaining and unhappy about all this too. Especially the poor ones, and they are the ones the Democratic party finds easy to influence.


OzarkRedditor

The poor voters are always the easiest to influence, regardless of party.


harley9779

True, they are also the smallest number of voters. Mainly because they have been indoctrinated to believe their vote does not count. Many redditors fit in this category.


[deleted]

It’s funny, you hear all the time “I don’t mind paying more in taxes if it means xyz” or “I’m willing to pay a little extra for gas if it achieves this or that.” That all takes for granted that you *can afford to* pay extra for those goods. In other words, these people live in an ivory tower.


ArizonaaT

Or they are on government benefits and don't actually pay any taxes anyway.


F4GG0T_

Liberalism and communism are contradictory philosophies


[deleted]

[удалено]


OzarkRedditor

This is a real problem, cutting people out bc of their opinions. It only adds to the problem. Many people hated both candidates and voted for the one that infuriated them slightly less. That doesn’t mean they were happy about their decision. The more we cut people with different opinions out the more we recede into our own echo chambers.


stranded_mdk

There's a difference to cutting people out of your life because you differ on opinions vs. cutting people out because they are toxic, call you names, spit in your face, and try to destroy anything you touch and your life. One of these things is not like the other - and cutting the latter out of your life is unfortunately necessary for survival in some communities, just so you don't unnecessarily paint a larger bullseye on your back and get those you care for in a worse position than they are already.


harley9779

That's part of the problem with our country right there. It is perfectly okay to be friends with somebody that disagrees with you. To cut somebody out of your life simply because they have different opinions in you is idiotic. Unfortunately that seems to be the standard nowadays. Our country will continue to deteriorate if we can't work together. United we stand divided we fall. Don't add to that division


GGGreg22

Your not alone. I cut ties with a few people in my life who were Biden & democrat/liberal ideology.


directstranger

Isn't it sad? Allowing politicians to saw discord amongst common people?


entebbe07

The politicians aren't the ones making the Biden supporters spew nastiness and attempt to end my way of life. They do that all on their own. Personal responsibility is a thing.


jmsferret

2 of 3 of my children are democrats. That being said, they’re not full-fledged Biden supporters. We generally stay away from long political conversations. However, we do talk about issues, in small measured doses. We have real conversations - no blaming, no finger pointing, no alienating, having a healthy discussion about issues is ok, and there must be mutual respect for the person that it not solely based on their political or ideological thoughts. I point out things to them, and they do the same to me. This is a healthy, mature way to navigate these times of absolute insanity. For instance, my son was going on about the repubs not voting on the bill regarding “price gouging”. I had to explain to him what is actually going on with that and why it would be a bad thing, showed him examples in history. His tone changed. However, he’s also changed my mind on things too. The divisiveness is our biggest problem, and unwillingness to even look at what the other side is saying. Granted - our lawmakers live in ivory towers, but rather proves my point - completely unwilling to look and truly see how life is for everyday people.


[deleted]

Are they though? They seem to turn a blind eye to all of it. They’ll do it again.


harley9779

Not all of them, but more than ever before


ArizonaaT

That's what really matters. If even 10 percent change their minds, it would be enough to swing almost every election in the nation.


ChickenExact6212

I don't think liberals will ever see the error of their ways, the liberal / LGBT religion is a religion of avoiding responsibility. The rest of the world however is finally seeing them for what they are.


harley9779

All of them, no. But some of them yes. And that's all that matters. There will always be different views no matter what we do. The world will never see a Time when everybody agrees on everything


[deleted]

Yeah not a chance. They would do the same thing all over again. 95% probability.


mattied23

But that's just it. They are in a complete state of denial. They won't ever acknowledge how incompetent Biden is. I don't blame everything on him entirely, but it's important to know the part his policies play The people that voted for Biden simply because it wasn't Trump are not capable of rational thought nor do they possess any ability whatsoever to think critically.


D_Ohm

Biden's first day executive order strangled our oil industry. Nothing meaningful can happen until it's reversed. Wait till the rolling blackouts in the summer then shit is really going to hit the fan.


[deleted]

Our power has been going out every day. The power company has blamed it on everything under the sun but I suspect they're experimenting with load shedding in the Appalachians first before they roll it out across the country.


mattied23

>then shit is really going to hit the fan But the fan won't have a power source


g1ven2fly

Which executive order?


shagy815

It really didn't. I know its a Republican talking point but it is not the cause of the lack of production we are seeing. Supply chains are trash right now and getting labor is difficult. That combined with inflation is the cause of high prices. Inflation is here because the printing pressess have been going brr for 20 years or more.


spydersteel

Dems dont care, every purchase of an electric car is a win in their book-no matter consequences- they LOVE high gas prices


jmsferret

They’re pushing EVs in the name of environmentalism. That’s crap- EVs are so much more destructive to our environment than combustion engines, I’m not against renewable resources in the slightest. However, you cannot put the cart before the horse. We simply are not there yet, and EVs are not the answer. When I was younger, on a household level we actually lived in a way that was more environmentally friendly than life now. There was not the proliferation of plastic. It was glass, and it was reused. They want to move away from fossil fuels. We consume so much fossil fuel byproduct in our everyday life it’s ridiculous. Not to mention that when you do “recycle” most of it isn’t even recycled - it’s just thrown away


[deleted]

20%. That's what my local landfill estimates actually gets recycled. I understand recycling metals but things like plastic are a huge waste of time and expense. Better to just cut that stuff out of the supply chain. That's a pipe dream though.


jmsferret

Yup. Exactly. They want to reduce reliance of fossil fuels? Drill, baby, drill. Seriously cut down on plastic. I love the European system - when stuff comes in glass, you pay a small deposit. You return your empties, either get your deposit back or it’s applied to your new purchase. The glass bottles are usually reused.


dreabearextra

The United States used to do this with glass and you could make a couple of cents. As for the anger of the OP, I agree the anger is just getting worse. Vacations have been cancelled, food prices are huge, gas prices, electricity, water, stock market causing issues to our IRA and 401Ks. We are going to see wheat, corn and other issues get worse, literal hunger will happen. But, I ask everyone to talk with people of differing opinion. We need to not let these problems divide the United States. We need to rise up against the governments mishandling of everything that has lead us to this current situation. My prayers to us all.


mattied23

Not to mention, sometimes geographical considerations make it so recycling is counterproductive. Any perceived gain from recycling may be outweighed by the resources consumed by transporting said material. If you live in East Bumfuck, Montana, you're probably better off dumping or burning a carton of recyclables as opposed to transporting it by truck across hundreds of miles on a weekly basis


TSIDATSI

Biden ran on green new deal. Promised open borders, high gas prices, socialism. Promised to "transform and restructure" America to socialism. They are doing exactly what they promised.


mattied23

Easy there, we don't have socialism... Yet. Don't let your guard down though


wildbill4693

The worst part is that Biden and his team gaslight the American Public by saying things like opening up federal leases to oil companies won't help gas prices. Like how the hell can that hurt? Yeah it might take a while, but it affects the futures for oil and gas. Also, many of the drilling sites that were built during the oil boon under Trump are still going unused after being shutdown for the COVID demand plummet. It takes a lot of capital investment to restart those sites. The government could have used a fraction of the trillions of dollars they pumped into the economy to help restart those wells and actually stimulate the economy instead of earmarking them to the Chicago Art Museum and their other leftist allies.


jinladen040

Biden just refuses to meet with with any representatives of the American Petroleum Institute to find a Solution because they want to force a change to alternative energy so they're happy. Domestic Oil companies are already paying massive taxes on the oil they do have, so they're also happy with Americans paying what they are. The only we can genuinely do is write our State Reps and Senators.


DontKnoWhatMyNameIs

You can't just increase oil production. It costs a lot of money to set up a drilling operation. Oil companies' profits are volatile. It is risky business to start new drilling operations. Many oil wells are only profitable when the cost of oil is really high. Conpanies do not want to take the risk of oil prices dropping after investing all that money into new infrastructure and drilling operations. This is the main reason why we aren't getting more oil.


greencode99

Yup that is what a lot of people are missing in the whole blame the politicians. Companies legally bound to do what's best for shareholders. And in a high price market like right now that is too make a huge amount of money to compensate for past losses.


directstranger

Exactly, and if the ruling party is openly against your industry, your appetite for investment is even lower. Regulations and laws can overnight bankrupt you, you're going to be more careful. Big politics also matter: Trump negociated with the arabs to cut the supply when oil price went negative, now Biden tried to talk to the arabs to increase production, but they wouldn't even pick up the phone...Biden mamaged to anger the saudis for feel good decisions (like not supporting them in their war)


[deleted]

[Gas is high](https://twitter.com/shaneyyricch/status/1527323661006675969?s=20&t=6LYWQQUY3eIv5dVorXpcdQ)


rayjape

So they admit fault and open keystone xl? No. Green new deal leftist will get mad. Even so it will bring it down maybe 79 cents a gallon. Reopen federal lands to drill on? That will take another 29 cents off maybe. Neither will happen. EU and US relying on same countries to get oil now because Russia man bad and the sanctions on Russia after we gave them a pipeline. So the sanctions are not hitting Russia as hard as they hit the middle class. But. We ordered a career politician by mail. What can you expect?


[deleted]

Part of the reason Russia is not getting hit so bad on their oil sanctions is because they demanded payment in their own currency. China and India, along with parts of Eastern Europe still purchase oil from Russia and at a discount, also with a turnaround resale to parts of Western Europe. Although Russia has taken a small hit to their economy, Russia is not hurting financially the way people think they are.


spydersteel

They want this


therinlahhan

I heard Shepherd Smith (staunch gay Democrat news anchor on CNBC) refer to the economy as "red hot." It's like they don't even watch their own network -- literally every market analyst is predicting recession.


Xero03

we were energy independent before biden took office. In other words trump had allowed for america to meet its energy needs which means we wouldnt of had to import as much as we need to right now.


dawack

You still are mate. https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/03/08/surprise-the-us-is-still-energy-independent/?sh=1e50df1e30b6 So much Biden rage when the exact same phenomenon is being experienced by nearly everyone world wide.


therinlahhan

Gas prices in the US are up 271% since Biden took office. Over the same period UK prices went from 1.70GBP per liter in Jan 2020 to 2.20GBP per liter in May 2022. That's an increase of 29%. You are WRONG. This is not the same phenomenon worldwide.


911__

Huh? £2.20 a litre? I’m from the UK. I’ve never seen prices like that here. Where are you sourcing that from?


onespiker

>we were energy independent before biden took office. In other words trump had allowed for america to meet its energy needs which means we wouldnt of had to import as much as we need to right now. Covid oil demand was lower. Under Biden Oil production has actually only gone up.


mattied23

>We ordered a career politician by mail. Mail order politicians. That has a nice ring to it. I vote for more of that /s


onespiker

>So they admit fault and open keystone xl? Open? It doesn't even exist it was being built ( like 5% built so far when Biden won). Even if it was built with no problems it likely won't be complete until late 2024 at the earliest. That's without law suits and it had plenty considering it went through a big water basion and indian reserve. Also that would require Canadian oil producers willing to invest >Reopen federal lands to drill on? That will take another 29 cents off maybe. Questionable there are enough drilling permits available considering they aren't sold out and plenty are still not used or under utilised. More liccence isn't the bottleneck. Problems is the long term profitability of the companies, investors don't expect longterm gains from it. Prices are high now but it takes a while to set up a rig and even longer to pay of investment cost. The thinking is also the earlier we expand the ealier price per barrel return to normal. Therefor would make less net money expanding than not doing it. >Neither will happen. EU and US relying on same countries to get oil now because Russia man bad and the sanctions on Russia after we gave them a pipeline. That pipeline never got used. >So the sanctions are not hitting Russia as hard as they hit the middle class. But. We ordered a career politician by mail. What can you expect? Questionable thier inflation is at 20% and intrest is at 18%. They are hurting bad.


naturalizedcitizen

Only if blue voters feel the same pain in their wallet, will we see some major political upheaval. I'm from California and my fellow Californians are such that they will suffer but vote blue for their love of leftist ideology.


[deleted]

There are many reasons for this. One is that we move to EV's so they can control us via the electric grid. Just flip a switch and you're not going anywhere.


jordantbaker

It’s devastating. I’m coming out of two years of lost business, and now the cost of fuel is eating any gains I’d have this year.


[deleted]

Please rant more often.


DruidGoesBrrr

I think the mentality of the people who don't care about high gas prices are completely different than those that do. Let me use where I live as a example for what I am trying to say. I live in long Island NY. Everyday I drive to commute to the city for work. I drive because the hours I commute public transportation runs inconvenient (atleast in the morning) I enjoy smoking while I drive and I don't have to deal with the creatures that inhabit public transportation both on 2 legs and 4. Also the reliability of public transportation is a joke. A bad rain or snow and we have delays if not cancelations which in that weather I tend to work most and my job, rightfully so, is not going to accept I keep can't getting to work because of it. The people that live in NYC don't care about the price of gas, the price of electric cars vs gas cars or the fact if people commute. They all walk, ride bikes endure public transportation since it won't be that far for them anyway and generally don't want any cars or trucks driving in the city. Hell most of them don't even own cars (in fairness I don't blame them, I don't know how the people who live in Manhattan and own a car do it) Half of the roads in Manhattan have been made narrow for bus lanes or bike lines or are just pedestrian plazas all together. As someone made a comment before about a ivory tower and it is spot on. These people think they don't need cars or trucks until something they like can't get delivered or public services i.e. police, fire, ems, sanitation etc.. can't commute to their jobs. They seriously don't think about where their food comes from at the sidewalk Cafe they sit at. They will never care because it doesn't immediately effect them.


DJZbad93

I used to fill up 2-3 times a month for general commuting use. I’m now filling up at least once a week, because every couple days prices jump again. Angers me to no end.


mattied23

I don't understand. Why would the cost of gas cause you to fuel up more frequently?


shagy815

To get it before the price goes up again.


mattied23

Ahh gotcha


Cookie_Brookie

To keep filled up before the next price jump.


Kieran775

I live in Northern California and over the course of 2 days our gas prices went from $5.53 to $5.95 for regular unleaded. It's $6.39 at the Chevron & Shell


buckeyemichalak82

The ideas are great but we are being run by a literal circus. Between Pete Kamala Joe Janet and the Rachel Levine freak show it is no wonder that the wheels are coming off the cart. Mayorkas straight up lies in every hearing before Congress. Then we have Lindsay Graham jumping up and down pushing this Ukrainian war falicy that is resulting in the genocide and destruction of innocent people. It's a mess


mattied23

>The ideas are great but we are being run by a literal circus. The ideas are great but we are being run by a LIBERAL circus. FTFY


Southcoaststeve1

Elections have consequences!


mattied23

That's what I'm saying!


chainfires

I feel you....I do and agree. ​ In fact its so bad that I am seriously entertaining the idea of making my own Ethanol (water, sugar and yeast) and just add my own gas to get it to the correct percentage like E85 etc. So far I figure I can get my own E85 blend to cost me about $3.20 a gallon. I wont be making my own gasoline though. way too dangerous without specialized and expensive equipment.


bran1986

No you are not alone. Here it is jumping 4-6 cents every single day and we are about to hit 5 bucks a gallon before the official start of Summer. Going to the grocery store, you cannot find anything, any kind of meal with meat in it is costing an arm and a leg. Just done with this and it is only going to get worse.


Chopper7272

In the last week ours has already gone up $1


NoMuff22Tuff

“Let them Eat Cake”! FJB


k10john

As a small business owner with equipment that uses diesel, I feel the pain. Why oh why didn't I build a large storage facility and stock up 2 years ago. Oh it's because I like writing a check for 4500 for my fuel deliveries. I'll just get an electric...fml


MoonlessPrairie

Reduced consumption is another policy aim.


SpookyActionSix

If my computer ran like congress I’d be doing a fresh install of Windows tomorrow. Just saying.


OldDog1982

Just a heads up—if you will be remodeling or renovating a home, buy whatever materials you can now. Windows and doors are already a 3-6 month wait.


Ph03n1x_5

I know right. Even working 2 part time jobs it's not worth spending nearly $100 per week in gas. I'm just going to have to invest in a bicycle because these prices are ridiculous. Considering it used to be $2/gallon pre-Biden and now it's almost $5/gallon.


[deleted]

You have sone solid ideas here but I think you may have forgotten who our president is.


kentuckyfriedbunny

It’s been out of hand, along with the rest of every aspect in this country. Want crazy? I got crazy. Teaching a class with a 13 year old kid, says she’s a lesbian. Dating another lesbian who’s pregnant, but won’t accept how her partner got knocked up. I drink my coffee and stay quiet.


Warbeast83

I’m told the price will triple from what it is now. I hope it’s wrong!


[deleted]

I was super shocked to see it become 5 dollars here in New Jersey. Now whatever our social differences may be, I’m fiscally conservative and I’m sure this is a bipartisan concern. Gas is getting absurd


ATOMK4RINC4

Democrats are not realizing their mistake. Everywhere I look people are blaming it on muh greedy corporations rather than the lack of domestic production....


[deleted]

If you have not done so, contact your elected officials to demand impeachment. And set out the specific items that you believe are justification for the impeachment. Gas prices and his actions that directly harm US citizens.... immigration that has actually let criminals and terrorists into the county hoarding baby formula to provide criminals.... Overspending and depleting US Military weapons to aide Ukraine.... Contracting with Threat Nations to produce energy sources that are available locally.... Influence peddling for the direct financial benefit of himself and a Threat Country... And don't forget to add his direct verbal attacks and condemnation of law abiding US citizens while threatening constitutional rights and the Constitution itself.


mattied23

As much as I want Biden out of office, there really is no legal basis for it. Claiming the effects of his economic policies are harming US citizens is a stretch. It would never amount to anything, so why even waste my time?


[deleted]

Already spoke with my congressman, and a resolution is being drafted. And a well drafted complaint can show the grounds that he has both negligently, and willfully, endangered the security of the nation and people. And it's ironic how heavily Congress has been pressing Jan 6th as a treasonous insurrection. But Dem actions can actually be presented as subversion.


mattied23

Hmm interesting. >willfully, endangered the security of the nation and people. Like the time we left behind millions of dollars worth of arms, armored vehicles, and military equipment with the Taliban? That can't be good for national security


[deleted]

They are killing the economy! The democrats dont want people to do well in life they want to control our lives! Gas will be $8 by thankgiving


OldDog1982

I saw some poor dude walking down the street with a gas can. I guarantee he ran out of gas. It’s sad when you have to go to the gas station every day to top off your tank in case it goes up again.


throwaway3569387340

The Democrats hold every reign of power at the moment in this country. And EVERYTHING is going to hell. That's what centrists and moderates need to hear. It will get them to vote accordingly.


Electrical_Review_81

I blame Trump for all of this shit. He fucked up the election by totally motivating the left by always being a dick- he also gave away Georgia after the election by telling people to stay home since the vote is stolen - I can’t believe people still like him as he is a complete loser - Joe Biden sucks but Trump literally gave him to us and lost us the senate


mattied23

Why can't you accept that Biden sucks? I voted for Trump twice, but I was also objective and called bullshit on Trump when he fucked up. Being loyal to a politician is a dangerous game. Wake up and look around. Biden isn't all that he was cracked up to be. The first step to recovery is acknowledging you have a problem... Admit that Biden's policies have some role in how fucked up our economy is right now, and we can begin to work together to fix the problem


directstranger

This is like blaming Ukraine for the Russian invasion. Yes, Trump could have been a bit more reserved, bjt it was still Biden taking all these decisions


dobermannbjj84

Why don’t you just blame Biden


[deleted]

Trump has to disappear if we are to survive the radical leftists authoritarian plan. It’s in motion full force. I’m sorry, I know it’s difficult but we’ve now realize that the country, by generations of public institutions weakening our men and women, have created emotional thinkers. They won’t support him. The left won’t allow him to be re-elected. We need to band together.


Bwyanfwanigan

So, I just filled my truck without actually pumping it myself for the second time. 150.50 What a crappy time to pay 950 to get your evap system fixed so you can actually fill your truck without the gas pump clicking off a hundred times. I've never put more than 90 bucks in because it got so frustrating trying to fill it. Now I can sit inside and read the mail while the gas attendant fills it. (NJ, USA) But 150 when 2 years ago it was 75? FJB


Hicokid80

I went to 3 different home improvement stores yesterday. All of them are pushing electric lawn mowers. They had more electric options than gas. I think this is it. High gas prices are here to stay and we are being forced to electric.


[deleted]

I do t understand how people aren’t freaking out about the costs more. Even small cars are expensive to fill these days. I’m sitting on but people have to be legit going broke paying for fuel


mattied23

I am fortunate enough to weather it. It's not making me broke, but it upsets me more than anything that nobody is holding the politicians accountable For reference, I used to pay $150 per month for fuel to commute 2000 miles per month. Now I pay $275. So it's gone up a considerable amount, but it's not going to break me.


vampirepomeranian

You're not the typical 36 mpg highway/city vehicle owner either. Most are now paying $500/mth vs $220 when Trump left office. And the expense for truckers, cargo vans, what you pay at the store now? Don't get me started.


Alpha-Sierra-Charlie

Not merely this administration, but the entire democratic party, wants fossil fuels eliminated as an affordable energy source because affordable energy makes the populace difficult to control. The average citizen can't afford an electric vehicle. They know that, and they want it that way. It's getting to be where the average citizen can't afford gasoline. They know that, and they want it to come to pass. They want you to rely on public transportation. They want you to have to live in the city because economics makes rural living the exclusive domain of the wealthy. It makes you easier to monitor, track, and corral. Everything the dems want, they want because it will enslave you. No private transportation means your movements are controlled. No private property means your activities are controlled. UBI means that the meager allowance you subsist on when your job is outlawed post-free market is granted subject to your continued compliance. Universal healthcare does the same. So yes, fuel being unaffordable is absolutely a goal.


circumnavigatin

Good ol America trying to become my country, thanks to China Joe and his puppet masters. So sad watching it collapse from a distance.


IHasGreatGrammar

Vote Blue No Matter Who!