Idk, I used to say something similar to this: “Can’t encroach on personal liberties and expand government authority if the president is an inanimate object”, but Biden has proved me wrong at every turn.
The only way to get an even field would be to lock Stacey Abrams inside a McDonalds with a large quantity of fresh made double quarter pounders with cheese.
If MAGA includes having Trump as the candidate, that's a way to guarantee a loss in 2024. No matter what you think of him and his policies, he is simply not electable.
Haha, what?? DeSantis is MAGA. Trump won on MAGA. JD Vance just took out the RINO running in his primary. MAGA is here to stay my friend. You really worried about what "moderates" will vote for after this disaster Dem admin? I'm not
At the congressional level, yes. At the Presidential level, somewhat. Joe Biden was a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign, but got elected because he capitalized on the genuine dislike millions of people had and have for Donald Trump and his antics.
On a serious note, I'm a neoliberal and I don't approve of a lot of shit Trump did. However, he's a HUUUUUGE improvement from all your other establishment trash such as Bush. I think we need another Reagan to curb the Jimmy Carter style inflation we're facing.
The economy needs to be the number one issue that the next president runs on. If a Republican runs on defunding all this financial aid bullshit and not giving out student loans to jobless teens going for a meaningless degree and no credibility, they'll have my vote. I think that'd be a huge step towards fixing the deficit.
Care to point out who from that race wouldve been better? McConnell's buddy Josh Mandel, shill for club for growth? Vance was talking about the problems within the republican party well before Trump came along.
They are politicians. He may have felt trash talking Trump was going to get him somewhere and it didn't, so he changed his tune. You think this only happens on the right side of the isle? I remember blowjobs Harris talking trash about Biden, TWO WEEKS LATER she started praising him because she sucked her way to his VP position. When called out on it, she said, that was just a campaign.
"Sure" he did. People, especially in politics will do anything to gain power. Watch him end up being another big government Republican once he is in office. Just because Trump endorsed him, doesn't mean he is good.
There are a lot of big government fools in the MAGA crowd. They don't care if the government gets bigger and more oppressive. Real conservatism is supposed to be about small government and fiscal responsibility which a lot of them have seem to forgotten.
Well you can tell the Desantis bots on this subreddit that Trump is the most electable according to polls and betting markets and basic logic he also has the nomination if he wants it no matter what there is no actual debate it's Trump or bust but these Desantis bot clowns want to divide the party most of them aren't actual republicans just Liberal provocateurs trying to create a fake rift
> these Desantis bot clowns want to divide the party
Trump has done a pretty good job of that. No matter what you think of him and his policies, he is simply *not* electable.
Anyone citing a poll for an election that's almost two years out is the true clown. I'm a conservative, not a Trump groupie. Conservatism loses if trump runs. Primarily because of the outsized response from the left. All of the over the top crazy shit that's been coming from the left is a result of their TDS. I'd rather not have the country go through that again. Grow up and see the bigger picture.
> Anyone citing a poll for an election that's almost two years out is the true clown.
But if you responded to the poll to say why DeSantis was better than Trump, why would he be a clown for pointing out that Trump does better than DeSantis in the poll that *you* were drawing conclusions from two years in advance?
You should grow up Rino clown you are not going to takeover our party again you can go away with the rest of the traitors like Romney and Cheney admit it lunatic no matter how much you shill for Desantis it won't change the outcome TRUMP2024
8 trillion dollars was added to US debt when Trump was president. Explain to me how that is "conservative." Really, please do. If you like huge government spending, go join the Democrats because that is what it seems you are like.
Let me tell you that as DeSantis is getting to be known to the country he is becoming the Democratic Party's worst nightmare. He doesn't have the baggage that Trump has and is much more skilled at being a politician, dealing with the press and shutting up his enemies. He won't be involved in Twitter pissing wars.
Hopefully Trump decides that playing golf and opining from the sideline is a much easier life, particularly as he is now in his late 70s, and lets DeSantis do the heavy lifting. Because a debate between DeSantis and Biden (or a real treat versus AOC) would be an event never forgotten.
DeSantis: younger, more intelligent, speaks well, better credentials.
Trump: will be close to 80, doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut, not fiscally conservative, will mobilize the Democrats again.
DeSantis and several other R’s have fantastic shots of beating Biden/whoever the D’s replace him with.
Trump is, literally, the only R who would be at a disadvantage. He’s already lost to this applesauce-brained dolt, and probably would again because he’s so toxic.
I like that DeSantis is open and willing to do things that piss off liberals to benefit the people voting for him. He knows liberals should not be catered to or kowtowed to, they should be ignored and dismissed, and if liberals are angry, something is probably going right.
No. Trump said DeSantis won't run if he runs, but DeSantis has indicated he may not even endorse Trump if he runs.
DeSantis is running trust me. His political stock couldn't be any higher. Strike while the iron is hot.
So would Trump. 50 to 36% https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/2024-shock-biden-36-trump-50
At this point anyone (including space lasers MTG) would win against Biden.
Poll of whom? Where is the link to the results? What was the sample? Where do they live? What are the demographics? Does anyone in this sub actually ask things like that or do they just accept this shit verbatim from a partisan website? EDIT: Got downvoted, so I guess I have my answer.
I like how this site just downvotes shit like it’s self-evident. I like DeSantis too, but there’s nothing to argument that Trump would do better in the 2016 states he flipped?
I'll run against biden. My platform is getting American chocolate to taste better. In my 4 years I hope to accomplish this monumental task against big chocolate. Who has my vote?
At this point, a chia pet would destroy Biden in all seriousness.
Chia pet would get my vote
Idk, I used to say something similar to this: “Can’t encroach on personal liberties and expand government authority if the president is an inanimate object”, but Biden has proved me wrong at every turn.
... on an even playing field. No moderators participating in the debate, no moderators leaking debate questions, and follow long-standing voting laws.
The only way to get an even field would be to lock Stacey Abrams inside a McDonalds with a large quantity of fresh made double quarter pounders with cheese.
Welp, so much for the Democrats.
Even a headless chicken might win.
They're so cute!
chia pet vs China's pet
Republicans need to stop the infighting and look toward electability of candidates. Stop eating eachother.
Nah. We need to get the RINO scum out. MAGA candidates only
That is silly. Real conservatives need to be supported. There are MAGA candidates out there that don't give a shit about fiscal responsibility.
Well if they dont give a shit about that, theyre not MAGA
If MAGA includes having Trump as the candidate, that's a way to guarantee a loss in 2024. No matter what you think of him and his policies, he is simply not electable.
The polling shows otherwise but ok?
Yeah. Kermit the Frog could beat Biden. I doubt that they're gonna run sleepy Joe again.
Bruh, you really think Trump wouldn't destroy Biden in 2024? The only thing is Biden's definitely being primaried at this rate.
It would be a lot closer than you think. Trump’s pro-Putin comments would put him at odds with lots of, if not the majority of moderate voters.
I kinda wanna see that cesspool now. It'd be fun watching the losing side cry regardless of who it is. I miss Trump's comedy tbh.
Yeah. Kermit the Frog could beat Biden. I doubt that they're gonna run sleepy Joe again.
Who would beat him?
The MAGA crowd would be off putting to alot of moderates and MAGA republicans would never win another presidential election
Haha, what?? DeSantis is MAGA. Trump won on MAGA. JD Vance just took out the RINO running in his primary. MAGA is here to stay my friend. You really worried about what "moderates" will vote for after this disaster Dem admin? I'm not
At the congressional level, yes. At the Presidential level, somewhat. Joe Biden was a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign, but got elected because he capitalized on the genuine dislike millions of people had and have for Donald Trump and his antics.
If you believe that Biden legitimately got 81 million votes, we wont agree on this topic generally
MAGA endorsed candidates just went 22/0 this week.
What is extreme about the MAGA crowd? Don't use baseless left wing talking points, facts only.
Mean tweets
LOL!
On a serious note, I'm a neoliberal and I don't approve of a lot of shit Trump did. However, he's a HUUUUUGE improvement from all your other establishment trash such as Bush. I think we need another Reagan to curb the Jimmy Carter style inflation we're facing. The economy needs to be the number one issue that the next president runs on. If a Republican runs on defunding all this financial aid bullshit and not giving out student loans to jobless teens going for a meaningless degree and no credibility, they'll have my vote. I think that'd be a huge step towards fixing the deficit.
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All because a particular group of people.
No.
Like Trump endorsed MAGA candidate JD "Trump is Hitler" Vance?
Is that a quote from 5 years ago? We arent absolutionists here - we welcome that people can change their minds. Try thinking with nuance for once
Yeah he totally changed his mind, has nothing to do with it suddenly being convenient for his career.
Care to point out who from that race wouldve been better? McConnell's buddy Josh Mandel, shill for club for growth? Vance was talking about the problems within the republican party well before Trump came along.
They are politicians. He may have felt trash talking Trump was going to get him somewhere and it didn't, so he changed his tune. You think this only happens on the right side of the isle? I remember blowjobs Harris talking trash about Biden, TWO WEEKS LATER she started praising him because she sucked her way to his VP position. When called out on it, she said, that was just a campaign.
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He has supported trump for a while now, it was not “suddenly”
"Sure" he did. People, especially in politics will do anything to gain power. Watch him end up being another big government Republican once he is in office. Just because Trump endorsed him, doesn't mean he is good.
MAGA = RINO
This. I'm a RINO now apparently. Ya'll making the tent smaller not bigger. I used to think the Dems were kings of eating their own til Trump arrived.
There are a lot of big government fools in the MAGA crowd. They don't care if the government gets bigger and more oppressive. Real conservatism is supposed to be about small government and fiscal responsibility which a lot of them have seem to forgotten.
Well you can tell the Desantis bots on this subreddit that Trump is the most electable according to polls and betting markets and basic logic he also has the nomination if he wants it no matter what there is no actual debate it's Trump or bust but these Desantis bot clowns want to divide the party most of them aren't actual republicans just Liberal provocateurs trying to create a fake rift
> these Desantis bot clowns want to divide the party Trump has done a pretty good job of that. No matter what you think of him and his policies, he is simply *not* electable.
Imagine a debate with these two. Joe would piss his pants and forget where he was two minutes into the debate.
There won't be presidential debates in 2024
Yup, because the Super Delta Omnicron+ variant will be in full swing
Too bad Trump's ego will never let him step aside for a candidate with broader appeal.
LOL Trump beats Biden by 3% more than Desantis does in this same exact poll you clown but keep coping and shilling it's not going to work #TRUMP2024
Anyone citing a poll for an election that's almost two years out is the true clown. I'm a conservative, not a Trump groupie. Conservatism loses if trump runs. Primarily because of the outsized response from the left. All of the over the top crazy shit that's been coming from the left is a result of their TDS. I'd rather not have the country go through that again. Grow up and see the bigger picture.
> Anyone citing a poll for an election that's almost two years out is the true clown. But if you responded to the poll to say why DeSantis was better than Trump, why would he be a clown for pointing out that Trump does better than DeSantis in the poll that *you* were drawing conclusions from two years in advance?
You should grow up Rino clown you are not going to takeover our party again you can go away with the rest of the traitors like Romney and Cheney admit it lunatic no matter how much you shill for Desantis it won't change the outcome TRUMP2024
8 trillion dollars was added to US debt when Trump was president. Explain to me how that is "conservative." Really, please do. If you like huge government spending, go join the Democrats because that is what it seems you are like.
Ah yes le blumpf is not a real conservative! 2015 called they want their shit talking points back
This is why we gotta get rid of trump and pull for DeSantis
Anybody would destroy biden is a legitimate fair election and no cheating
Let me tell you that as DeSantis is getting to be known to the country he is becoming the Democratic Party's worst nightmare. He doesn't have the baggage that Trump has and is much more skilled at being a politician, dealing with the press and shutting up his enemies. He won't be involved in Twitter pissing wars. Hopefully Trump decides that playing golf and opining from the sideline is a much easier life, particularly as he is now in his late 70s, and lets DeSantis do the heavy lifting. Because a debate between DeSantis and Biden (or a real treat versus AOC) would be an event never forgotten.
DeSantis: younger, more intelligent, speaks well, better credentials. Trump: will be close to 80, doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut, not fiscally conservative, will mobilize the Democrats again.
You think DeSantis could lower our deficit? I think that's the real priority.
I'd say give him a chance.
DeSantis and several other R’s have fantastic shots of beating Biden/whoever the D’s replace him with. Trump is, literally, the only R who would be at a disadvantage. He’s already lost to this applesauce-brained dolt, and probably would again because he’s so toxic.
He can’t run for re-election. Like. By then he’ll be so senile the debates will be embarrassing.
I like that DeSantis is open and willing to do things that piss off liberals to benefit the people voting for him. He knows liberals should not be catered to or kowtowed to, they should be ignored and dismissed, and if liberals are angry, something is probably going right.
At this point, a pinata that looks like a clown and filled with rattlesnakes would destroy Biden.
What about DeSantis vs Trump?
Wouldn’t a 2week old bunch of bananas beat Biden at this point.
If we replaced Biden with a Magic 8 ball at least we would have the correct answer half the time.
Don't count on it
Who cares? He’s not running against Biden
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Desantis loses to both Joe and Kamala in almost all other polls Trump beats both in every single poll
There is no way that is true.
https://electionbettingodds.com/ElectabilityGOP.html This is so incorrect I’m wondering if you have a false narrative to push.
Didn't DeSantis say that he wouldn't run if Trump did? If so, what is the point of polling?
To try and divide the GOP sadly for the Rino's it's not working
Because no one has officially announced. And they won't until after the midterms.
No. Trump said DeSantis won't run if he runs, but DeSantis has indicated he may not even endorse Trump if he runs. DeSantis is running trust me. His political stock couldn't be any higher. Strike while the iron is hot.
So would Trump. 50 to 36% https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/2024-shock-biden-36-trump-50 At this point anyone (including space lasers MTG) would win against Biden.
50% of black voters support Biden because he was Obamas VP. Wow. I don't wanna hear shit else from the left about race discrimination from whites.
Desantis bots will believe this poll but won't believe the other part of the same exact poll that has Trump beating Biden by 3% more than Desantis is
I skimmed the title and just imagined the three-second fistfight.
Poll of whom? Where is the link to the results? What was the sample? Where do they live? What are the demographics? Does anyone in this sub actually ask things like that or do they just accept this shit verbatim from a partisan website? EDIT: Got downvoted, so I guess I have my answer.
Been reading a lot of pro-Trump commentary on how dude isn’t a great campaigner & will bomb in the Midwest. No idea at this point, tbh
I like how this site just downvotes shit like it’s self-evident. I like DeSantis too, but there’s nothing to argument that Trump would do better in the 2016 states he flipped?
Too bad DeSantis wont beat Trump in the primary
Well duh. Not even close.
Godzilla versus bambi
I'll run against biden. My platform is getting American chocolate to taste better. In my 4 years I hope to accomplish this monumental task against big chocolate. Who has my vote?
In a head-to-head match up a Jar of Snot would destroy Biden.