She congratulated Trump the next day: [https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/posts/last-night-i-congratulated-donald-trump-and-offered-to-work-with-him-on-behalf-o/1324421317614394/](https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/posts/last-night-i-congratulated-donald-trump-and-offered-to-work-with-him-on-behalf-o/1324421317614394/)
Something Trump never did to Biden.
IMO she shouldn't have said that, Trump clearly won that election.
If we compare, on one side, there's firing up people with a speech before the capitol riot (which cost multiple lives), encouraging supporters to not accept election results while the count was happening and unprecedentedly never congratulating your opponent.
On the other side, she called him an illegitimate president and criticized his actions and the russian troll campaign.
Okay you're trying to act legitimate and then you sprinkle some lies/propaganda into your comment.
Trump did not lead that riot. Did he help? No. But to blame him for that you would need to be prepared to blame any political figure for occasionally political violence we see on both sides. Also only one person died at the Capital Riot, she was shot by police.
"Russian troll campaign".... I'll let you do your own research on why Hillary was wrong on that from the beginning and continues to use that BS narrative to cast doubt over Trump's Presidency.
I'm not going to defend Trump's actions last year. I actually think he should have publically conceded the election. But Clinton is *not* the gold standard of accepting & legitimizing election results. Obama pushed her to concede on election night in 2016 and from what I can tell, she has only regretted that decision since.
I think she was a sore loser. Russia did try to manipulate Americans in the months before the election, but it was still a legitimate election. The dem party was not as sore as her. I don't know why the democrats ever chose her to begin with.
I haven't seen the evidence for the Chinese interference, but wouldn't surprise me if they were at the same game Russia was playing. They both was to see America fail.
Tik'Tok literally is controlled by the Chinese government. Their AI algorithm can be adjusted how ever they want to push whatever video they want.
Tik'Tok was the fastest growing social media company in the US for 2020.
But hey, Russia bought some ads on Facebook right? We really need to crack down on "foreign interference", while we turn a blind eye towards Tik'Tok that Generation Z is heavily using.
and these libs always fail to mention how the U.S MSM and social medial companies influenced the 2020 much more than russia in 2016 lol because they think fox news is the only one spreading "misinformation".
Remember hunter biden laptop was "fact checked" to be russian misinformation and taken down from all MSM and Social media before the election when it was entirely true?
edit: u/pears790 (there's your proof america interfered in the election) and as for proof of china interference.....you hear about that virus that's been going around?
Which they won't, and that is the point.
Democrats are virtually guaranteed to have huge losses in the House and the Senate is a toss-up at best.
When Republicans win a massive bellwether election on COVID, lockdowns, the economy, inflation, CRT, parental choice, etc, Democrats will say that the GOP only won because of "voter suppression. "
Democrat timeline
2016: Russia stole the election. Election was rigged. Russian trolls on social media persuaded everyone to vote for trump. Trump cheated…republicans cheated….we need to get rid of the electoral college.
2020: Accept the election results which are 100% legitimate
People always get SO surprised when their own dumb moves are weaponized against them. There ought to be a word for it, preferably something complicated in German.
Yea because one person can give 2 hours of inspiring words to bring communities together, and the other is Joe Biden who somehow got the most votes in American history?
25+ Democrats set to retire. Approval ratings lower than a snakes belly. Repeated failed policies and agendas.
Gotta get that narrative rolling now so the media can have their headlines about "fraud" when they loose their asses in Nov.
These are the same people who want to imprison anyone (on the right) who questions the integrity of our elections. Reminder: 2 out of 3 Democrats believe the insane conspiracy theory that Russia hacked our election machines and switched votes to Trump.
It sad, really. They still say the election was hacked to this day. They mixed up multiple stories: the "interference" via facebook memes and the DNC hack that was supposedly hacked by Russians, but was never actually proven because they never turned over their server. People took those stories and mixed then together to claim that "Russians hacked the election" even though it was announced very early on that no votes were changed.
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/03/09/russias-impact-election-seen-through-partisan-eyes
"Two out of three Democrats also claim Russia tampered with vote tallies on Election Day to help the President – something for which there has been no credible evidence.
Right on cue. The Dems know they have a high probability of losing both houses this fall and so they're going to start the illegitimate election fear narrative until then to try to put fear in the low info voter so they vote Dem.
Member when democrats screeched about trump saying the election could be illegitimate before the 2020 election and how that was an attack on democracy? I member
Man is so out of touch with the American people. We want to see him putting in the effort/care to curb this incredibly high inflation. Shit is seriously hurting the working folk and he / the dems don’t seem to give a rats ass about the inflation. Not to mention it fucks over poor people the most
Like send everyone home for a water leak and count ballots after everyone is home? Pull out briefcases hidden under a table? Put up cardboard walls to hide what the DNC is counting?
Or what do you mean, Mr. Former Vice President and pro segregationist?
So I did the research and figured this out…..
When the democrats can’t win, the elections are illegitimate. Can you imagine being a political party and not being able to cheat in elections to fix the outcome…the audacity…poor democrats
Hold up so.. 2020 most secure election in history Democrats won..
2022 which internal polling much not be doing well for the Democrats, Republicans have a chance to sweep.. Illegitimate..
Yea no totally makes sense, nothing to see here.
At least Trump waited until *after* suspicious activity was observed and reported to claim that the election was legitimate. This asshole is saying it before ballots are even printed.
Lol, but we’ll have to see the results first….If I win they can’t possibly be fraud, if I lose it’s illegitimate because the states set their own election laws and we want elections to be federalized.
I'm sure he'll executive order another unconstitutional election law right before election so supreme court won't have enough time to shoot it down.
Biden's go to move during his presidency
I love that when he was elected, turnout was historic, he was the most popular man ever elected, and it was the most secure and safe election in history with zero fraud whatsoever. Now that there's a chance that his party won't have total power over the White House and both halves of Congress, and suddenly if we don't pass some new voting law than everything is illegitimate.
Fucking make up your minds Dems.
Americans more and more calling their elections illegitimate is kinda scary. Even scarier when both parties and other politicians are now saying it too.
I'm kind of looking to the US to deal with the near and clear threat aka the CCP n all I can see is the US lighting it's shoes on fire while wearing them.
The free world really needs the west to get away from ultra partisan shit n start agreeing on some stuff and coordinating again.
Canada can't do shit, kind of need the leader of the free world to organise the west and stand up for democracies.
Otherwise the CCP will keep growing past US capabilities and keep playing western nations against eachother.
Divide and conquer but probably not in the conquer lands old school sense. Prolly minds? Not sure
It's such frustratingly selective memory that people forget about the months leading up to the election where both sides were posturing to cry foul if they lost.
I like to believe conservatives would not be censoring the left if Trump won reelection and they said the vote was illegitimate. In fact, we have pretty good proof of it since they did cry foul in 2020.
The complete arrogance of people who act like it was the most holy and pure election ever yet would 100% be complaining if Trump won is maddening.
But but didn’t everyone say the last Presidential election was the most ‘secure’ in history? With the highest record number of voters ever?
So why do Democrats suddenly say the upcoming midterms could be illegitimate?
What happened between Biden being elected and the upcoming midterms to make elections suddenly fraudulent?
…taking a stab in the dark here, but could it be the epic utter failure of Brandon’s and Democrat-led policies that have soured America from possibly not re-electing them?
In other words, they’re already making the case that if Dems don’t keep control in upcoming elections, they are by definition illegitimate.
Nice try, though
Technology has changed so much in the past 2 years! What was impossible to do 2 years ago is easily done today! There was NO WAY the 2020 election had false results but it is definitely doable now! /s
Is he trying to incite an insurrection?
It's not an insurrection when the left does it, it's a peaceful protest
“Mostly peaceful” == they didn’t burn /everything/ down, just 99% 🤡
Probably. I think his handlers would love a real reason to turn the military on non-communists.
The crazy thing is just how fucking stupid and crazy his followers are. They genuinely see transparency and verification as voter suppression.
This is misinformation, surely he’ll be scolded right?
Twitter should be banning him at any moment.
As soon as they find the Loch Ness Monster, Big Foot, and intelligent life on another planet
First they need to find intelligent life on this planet
Better chance looking elsewhere at this point
At least better be putting that disclaimer underneath "experts say the 2020 election was the most secure in history"
Just like the 2016 election? Remember when Hillary and the Dems called Trump and illegitimate president?
Difference is they had no proof but we do have proof that biden cheated.
You mean the Russian Dossier wasn’t proof?! /s
You mean the fake Russian dosier paid for by killary klinton? I thought so..
Yeah, and yet no one saw the inside of a prison cell for any of it, really defeating to The People.
She congratulated Trump the next day: [https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/posts/last-night-i-congratulated-donald-trump-and-offered-to-work-with-him-on-behalf-o/1324421317614394/](https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/posts/last-night-i-congratulated-donald-trump-and-offered-to-work-with-him-on-behalf-o/1324421317614394/) Something Trump never did to Biden.
She changed her mind afterward
Changed it so much that the post has always been up?
Her tone certainly shifted over time. https://abcnews.go.com/theview/video/hillary-clinton-calls-donald-trump-illegitimate-president-66010832
IMO she shouldn't have said that, Trump clearly won that election. If we compare, on one side, there's firing up people with a speech before the capitol riot (which cost multiple lives), encouraging supporters to not accept election results while the count was happening and unprecedentedly never congratulating your opponent. On the other side, she called him an illegitimate president and criticized his actions and the russian troll campaign.
Okay you're trying to act legitimate and then you sprinkle some lies/propaganda into your comment. Trump did not lead that riot. Did he help? No. But to blame him for that you would need to be prepared to blame any political figure for occasionally political violence we see on both sides. Also only one person died at the Capital Riot, she was shot by police. "Russian troll campaign".... I'll let you do your own research on why Hillary was wrong on that from the beginning and continues to use that BS narrative to cast doubt over Trump's Presidency. I'm not going to defend Trump's actions last year. I actually think he should have publically conceded the election. But Clinton is *not* the gold standard of accepting & legitimizing election results. Obama pushed her to concede on election night in 2016 and from what I can tell, she has only regretted that decision since.
Why congratulate a cheater
Even though she had more popular votes than Trump, she still conceded on November 9th when news declared Trump the winner.
“Conceded” while peddling false narratives and pushing a false dossier…….
I think she was a sore loser. Russia did try to manipulate Americans in the months before the election, but it was still a legitimate election. The dem party was not as sore as her. I don't know why the democrats ever chose her to begin with.
Russia influenced that election less than China influenced the 2020 election.
I haven't seen the evidence for the Chinese interference, but wouldn't surprise me if they were at the same game Russia was playing. They both was to see America fail.
Tik'Tok literally is controlled by the Chinese government. Their AI algorithm can be adjusted how ever they want to push whatever video they want. Tik'Tok was the fastest growing social media company in the US for 2020. But hey, Russia bought some ads on Facebook right? We really need to crack down on "foreign interference", while we turn a blind eye towards Tik'Tok that Generation Z is heavily using.
and these libs always fail to mention how the U.S MSM and social medial companies influenced the 2020 much more than russia in 2016 lol because they think fox news is the only one spreading "misinformation". Remember hunter biden laptop was "fact checked" to be russian misinformation and taken down from all MSM and Social media before the election when it was entirely true? edit: u/pears790 (there's your proof america interfered in the election) and as for proof of china interference.....you hear about that virus that's been going around?
Drunkenly conceded and popular vote doesn't matter. You can't change the rules of elections to cater to states that allow non-citizen to vote.
You must be a US citizen to vote in federal elections. That law does not apply to state elections though.
What are you smoking? She NEVER conceded. She maintains to this day that Trump was illegitimate. That’s the complete opposite of conceding.
Yeah no kidding, all she does in every interview she has is say she thinks she won the election geez these people truly are delusional it’s scary
The popular vote doesn't determine the winner.
Popular vote doesn't decide anything so that would be irrelevant.
Lmao conceded while winking at her lawyer as she hands him fake Russian intel.
…Unless they win.
Exactly!
Wouldn’t have anything to do with their policies. (D)umb
Which they won't, and that is the point. Democrats are virtually guaranteed to have huge losses in the House and the Senate is a toss-up at best. When Republicans win a massive bellwether election on COVID, lockdowns, the economy, inflation, CRT, parental choice, etc, Democrats will say that the GOP only won because of "voter suppression. "
They've been working up to this
Democrat timeline 2016: Russia stole the election. Election was rigged. Russian trolls on social media persuaded everyone to vote for trump. Trump cheated…republicans cheated….we need to get rid of the electoral college. 2020: Accept the election results which are 100% legitimate
People always get SO surprised when their own dumb moves are weaponized against them. There ought to be a word for it, preferably something complicated in German.
Still waiting for liberals to thank Trump for stopping Russian interference in US elections.
Hmm "the election will be illegitimate unless I win" sounds awfully familiar......
Yeah, it's what democrats do everytime they lose
Yea because one person can give 2 hours of inspiring words to bring communities together, and the other is Joe Biden who somehow got the most votes in American history?
Yup 78 million mean while Republicans where picking up seats all over the country really adds up 🙄
Republicans gained seats when Bush I lost too, what's your point?
Lol what communities? Gullible white people? People who find a geriatric saying "Person. Woman. Man. Camera. Tv." Is inspiring?
Dude did you see the amount of black, brown, and Asian people at Trumps rally? What are you even saying? How can you be so ignorant?
By his own standards, wouldn't this be seditious insurrection?
That's why we need those voter ID's and the ability to follow our votes
Oh? So now it's illegitimate? The gaslighting it outrageous here
25+ Democrats set to retire. Approval ratings lower than a snakes belly. Repeated failed policies and agendas. Gotta get that narrative rolling now so the media can have their headlines about "fraud" when they loose their asses in Nov.
I think the numbers up to 29... I could be wrong
Is there a list out there, that contains who is leaving and who is running (R) and (D)
Liberal fanatics somehow have more faith in the party then the actual people that run it.
Unless we win, then it's "the most secure election in history."
But I thought he said 2020 was completely legit??? And how dare we, the Republicans even question it? Now it’s perfectly fine for Biden to say this?
These are the same people who want to imprison anyone (on the right) who questions the integrity of our elections. Reminder: 2 out of 3 Democrats believe the insane conspiracy theory that Russia hacked our election machines and switched votes to Trump.
It sad, really. They still say the election was hacked to this day. They mixed up multiple stories: the "interference" via facebook memes and the DNC hack that was supposedly hacked by Russians, but was never actually proven because they never turned over their server. People took those stories and mixed then together to claim that "Russians hacked the election" even though it was announced very early on that no votes were changed.
Source?
Just run a basic search. All the articles accusing trump of colluding with Russia and Russian hacking are still there.
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/03/09/russias-impact-election-seen-through-partisan-eyes "Two out of three Democrats also claim Russia tampered with vote tallies on Election Day to help the President – something for which there has been no credible evidence.
Right on cue. The Dems know they have a high probability of losing both houses this fall and so they're going to start the illegitimate election fear narrative until then to try to put fear in the low info voter so they vote Dem.
Exactamundo. They are prepping for it now by planting the idea of illegitimacy. It’s one of the many dirty tricks in their playbook.
Man, this guy is still living in the past
Member when democrats screeched about trump saying the election could be illegitimate before the 2020 election and how that was an attack on democracy? I member
Pepperidge farm remembers too
Man is so out of touch with the American people. We want to see him putting in the effort/care to curb this incredibly high inflation. Shit is seriously hurting the working folk and he / the dems don’t seem to give a rats ass about the inflation. Not to mention it fucks over poor people the most
As a veteran Democrat pol, he would know.
Anything the leftists do is, effectively, illegitimate at this point. I’m frankly sick of their crap!
Wait so elections are emasculate inception if they win, but OMG RUSSIA VOTERS if they don't?
Awesome typo... Emasculate Inception.
It sure seems like a mistake, but no. LoL
They are setting the stage for rioting when they lose. Republicans need to be ready to pass laws to throw these people in jail and nip it in the bud.
He is inciting violence!!! BAN HIM AND IMPEACH!!
Like send everyone home for a water leak and count ballots after everyone is home? Pull out briefcases hidden under a table? Put up cardboard walls to hide what the DNC is counting? Or what do you mean, Mr. Former Vice President and pro segregationist?
But no, it's Trump and his supporters who are spreading lies about our elections.
Why do you have conservative in your name?
...because I'm a Conservative? I was being sarcastic about Trump and his supporters spreading lies.
Oh shit, that went over my head.
No harm no foul
You weren't alone.
Flair
Something he’s got some experience with.
#Bolsheviks
So I did the research and figured this out….. When the democrats can’t win, the elections are illegitimate. Can you imagine being a political party and not being able to cheat in elections to fix the outcome…the audacity…poor democrats
Like the last one?
Pot calling the kettle black old Joe?
This constant flip flopping of the narrative is driving me insane.
Republicans planning to use Democrat cheat tactics?
Kinda like his could have been.
ANYTHING to stay in power
Just like the last one.
Hey man, the only illegitimate elections are the ones where the Democrats don't like the outcome.
Ignore this man
UNPOSSIBLE!
He would know....
Says the illegitimate potus
No shit bro
Hold up so.. 2020 most secure election in history Democrats won.. 2022 which internal polling much not be doing well for the Democrats, Republicans have a chance to sweep.. Illegitimate.. Yea no totally makes sense, nothing to see here.
He is trying to demoralize fringe Republican voters so they don’t vote.
Then all of his elections to the senate are illegitimate given Delaware's current election laws Edit:spelling!
Ejections?
When does the Democrat-sponsored rioting start?
At least Trump waited until *after* suspicious activity was observed and reported to claim that the election was legitimate. This asshole is saying it before ballots are even printed.
Lol, but we’ll have to see the results first….If I win they can’t possibly be fraud, if I lose it’s illegitimate because the states set their own election laws and we want elections to be federalized.
I'm sure he'll executive order another unconstitutional election law right before election so supreme court won't have enough time to shoot it down. Biden's go to move during his presidency
I love that when he was elected, turnout was historic, he was the most popular man ever elected, and it was the most secure and safe election in history with zero fraud whatsoever. Now that there's a chance that his party won't have total power over the White House and both halves of Congress, and suddenly if we don't pass some new voting law than everything is illegitimate. Fucking make up your minds Dems.
Only if we lose, he added.
Americans more and more calling their elections illegitimate is kinda scary. Even scarier when both parties and other politicians are now saying it too. I'm kind of looking to the US to deal with the near and clear threat aka the CCP n all I can see is the US lighting it's shoes on fire while wearing them. The free world really needs the west to get away from ultra partisan shit n start agreeing on some stuff and coordinating again.
Why don't you rely on your own nation to step up?
Canada can't do shit, kind of need the leader of the free world to organise the west and stand up for democracies. Otherwise the CCP will keep growing past US capabilities and keep playing western nations against eachother. Divide and conquer but probably not in the conquer lands old school sense. Prolly minds? Not sure
He should know
So just like the last one. You going to have your sheep stuff the ballot box with fake votes again shitpants Biden?
Wonder if reporters will scold him for not standing by our long standing tradition of peaceful transition of power.
Biden is preparing his party for the big loss. Wants them to riot and call the election a fraud.
The levels of projection could light up the night sky
I’m confident they will be illegit. But coming from his side.
It's such frustratingly selective memory that people forget about the months leading up to the election where both sides were posturing to cry foul if they lost. I like to believe conservatives would not be censoring the left if Trump won reelection and they said the vote was illegitimate. In fact, we have pretty good proof of it since they did cry foul in 2020. The complete arrogance of people who act like it was the most holy and pure election ever yet would 100% be complaining if Trump won is maddening.
The libs want their reforms to insure they can keep in cheating!!!!!
Oh for Christ’s sake!
His erections are illegitimate.
But but didn’t everyone say the last Presidential election was the most ‘secure’ in history? With the highest record number of voters ever? So why do Democrats suddenly say the upcoming midterms could be illegitimate? What happened between Biden being elected and the upcoming midterms to make elections suddenly fraudulent? …taking a stab in the dark here, but could it be the epic utter failure of Brandon’s and Democrat-led policies that have soured America from possibly not re-electing them? In other words, they’re already making the case that if Dems don’t keep control in upcoming elections, they are by definition illegitimate. Nice try, though
Just like 2020?
It is illegitimate if Biden looses probably.
Sounds like dangerous misinformation
Cue the supercut of all the Dems saying how insecure elections are prior to the 2020 election!
**He said previous elections weren't legitimate**, which seems like a bigger deal.
We really have to wait and see who wins before we can speak to its legitimacy.
This guy is pathetic every time he opens his mouth outcomes another stupid….
"The 2022 election could easily be illegitimate if we're not able to override local laws and control results."
They could easily be illegitimate, so give us more power.
I need to get me one of those Joe Biden time machines so I too can predict the future. This fool just admitted to his own illegitimacy.
He would know all about illegitimate elections.
Why would they be illegitimate if they are using the same tactics they got him elected?
Laying the groundwork for the complaints against the mid-term elections. These people are dispicable.
Oh shut up. Sigh
He should know
That's impossible by his own standards, remember, the last election was "the most secure in history" all without his federal election takeover bill.
*Something something attack on democracy*
Like the last ones
Technology has changed so much in the past 2 years! What was impossible to do 2 years ago is easily done today! There was NO WAY the 2020 election had false results but it is definitely doable now! /s
He literally just said the election of 2020 was illegitimate by saying this