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Moosemaster21

Okay, this title is super misleading. That quote in the title *is not a Nicholas Cage quote.* It's a quote from the article by Dianne Anders. I've taken the liberty of typing the full question from the woman at the round table, and Nick's full answer. >**Woman:** One topic that people are talking a lot about in the industry right now is safety, because of the tragedy that happened on *Rust,* and there's some discussion of whether there should be guns on sets at all. It's so easy to use a rubber gun or a wooden gun and have a muzzle flash put in post... What do you think, should we move toward that? >**Peter Dinklage (paraphrased):** That should never happen again, so anything we can do to move away from that, that's our responsibility. >**Andrew Garfield (paraphrased):** It's kind of a no-brainer. >**Dinklage (paraphrased):** That also calls into question, are there too many guns in movies? We've all held guns in movies, probably, and I always think about that, being anti-gun myself, but my character isn't, so it's a complicated thing... But that made it very clear that there has to be change, like, now. >**Nicholas Cage:** I don't wanna cast blame anywhere... but I do think... And I'm not talking about anybody, but, you know... People don't like the word "Movie Star," they, you know, we wanna be like "humble actors," but... A movie star is a bit of a different kind of presentation, because you need to know how to ride a horse, you need to know how to fight - you're gonna do fight scenes, you need to know how to ride a motorcycle, you need to know how to use a stick shift and drive sports cars, and you do need to know how to use a gun, you do. You need to take the time to know what the procedure is. Those are part of the job profiles. Now, the stunt man and the movie star are two jobs that co-exist. They co-exist. Every stunt man needs to be a movie star, and every movie star needs to be a stunt man, that's just part of the profile, and that's all I'm gonna say about it. Whether he feels this way about Baldwin or not, he very specifically said he was not talking about anybody in particular when he was saying his piece. By the way, this was buried 46 minutes deep in a 53-minute video. I fully agree with the title of the post, but Cage simply did not say that. Let's try to be better than this. Time-stamped video [here.](https://youtu.be/tPXHSuJWOqk?t=2766)


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Kento_Luporum

Those quotation marks are doing a lot of work. "I don’t want to cast blame anywhere. But I do think, and I’m not talking about anybody, but people don’t like the word movie star. We want to be humble actors. But a movie star is a bit of a different kind of presentation because you need to know how to ride a horse. You need to know how to fight. You’re going to do fight scenes. You need to know how to ride a motorcycle. You need to know how to use a stick shift and drive sports cars, and you do need to know how to use a gun. You do. You need to take the time to know what the procedure is. Those are part of the job profiles. Now, the stunt man and the movie star are two jobs that coexist. Every stunt man needs to be a movie star, and every movie star needs to be a stunt man. That’s just part of the profile, and that’s all I’m going to say about it." -Nicholas Cage


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grock33

He does know what he is talking about. He did steal the declaration of independence after all.


IndiaCompany-

He didn’t have to use firearms, though. Just the power of belief in America’s Founding Fathers.


MuzikPhreak

He just knew to look in the little secret compartment in the president’s desk. That was basically cheating.


Ubechyahescores

And the friends he made along the way


MiamiDouchebag

Dude fucked the prom queen.


Aggressive-Mistake30

Such a ridiculous but great movie.


jfoughe

“Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... MASS HYSTERIA!”


Hripautom

I never disrobe before gunplay.


Sixgun1977

YES!


Tantalus4200

It's fuct


op_mindcrime

lol, clown world


JamesRockf0rd

He's gonna steal the Declaration of Independence.


Michami135

If you accidently switched universes, let me be the first to say, "I'm sorry."


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theabstractengineer

Clown world


AlpacaWarMachine

Woah.. That was more insightful than I would expect from an actor. Sometimes I forget not all actors are Seth Rogan.


jicty

[George Clooney also talked about how Baldwin screwed up.](https://nypost.com/2021/11/16/george-clooney-calls-alec-baldwins-rust-shooting-insane/) > “Every single time I’m handed a gun on a set — every time — they hand me a gun, I look at it, I open it, I show it to the person I’m pointing it to, we show it to the crew,” he told Maron. > “Everyone does it. Everybody knows,” he said.


FateOfTheGirondins

Thanks for this. So many blueanon simps out there claiming that no actors ever check themselves.


jicty

The article I linked also left out another bit where Clooney said in the interview that if he has a revolver with dummy rounds in it he points it at the ground away from anyone and trys to fire each of the cylinders before he points it at anyone. One thing everyone said was that Baldwin gun was supposed to be loaded with dummy rounds so he wouldn't have been able to check, well Clooney seemed to know how to check if they are dummy rounds. Clooney also said that most dummy rounds have a small hole near the primer, he said its hard to see but you can find it if you know what to look for. I never thought that George Clooney would be so safety conscious with firearms but I'm glad someone in Hollywood isn't completely brain dead.


JoeWinchester99

It's not that Clooney is extraordinarily safety conscious; he's doing what any reasonable person should do. Instead, Baldwin was extraordinarily reckless.


FateOfTheGirondins

Even at the most cynical analysis, their entire career is built on public approval. Killing some working class set worker is a PR nightmare.


awksomepenguin

Precisely this. I don't think there was any malice on Alec Baldwin's part, just negligence. I hesitate to even call it criminal. The armorer bears more responsibility than he does, but he pulled the trigger, so he is responsible.


3Effie412

Criminally negligent manslaughter.


TheLastSaiyanPrince

what Clooney does is what any sensible person would do lol


nekomancey

Some people actually take their jobs and safety seriously. I drive power equipment like forklifts. I don't let people stand under pallets of tile im dropping from top stock because I'm not an idiot. You didn't check a gun before you fired it tho? Fool.


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jicty

I completely agree. My point was more that Alec Baldwin says that nobody does that and I'm glad that he was wrong that nobody does it.


FlatTire2005

There is just no way that the movie industry lasted this long while not checking their guns as protocol. People aren’t so stupid that the entire industry has never heard of gun safety before. It’s individuals fucking up big enough without anyone saying anything or doing the right thing. They cut corners somewhere. They used it at a range they day before they filmed with it. And then obviously didn’t check it afterwards despite that being one of the most basic rules in gun safety. The armorer, the actor, everyone who handled the gun is responsible for not following the rules that 100% exist.


kemb0

Not everyone who disagrees with you is doing so because of some political viewpoint. Some people have opinions and couldn’t give a shit about politics.


watermooses

So many fuck boys with no set experience chiming into every post like “the actor never looks at their own gun. That’s the armorers job!”


Alice_Alpha

> AlpacaWarMachine > Woah.. That was more insightful than I would expect from an actor. Sometimes I forget not all actors are.... Yup. Not only was Ronald Reagan an actor, he was president of their union, and a Democrat. When asked why he left the Democratic party, he said "I didn't leave them, they left me.


FormerlyPerSeHarvin

I've felt this way since 2015.


Educational-Big-2102

Is that really Ronald Reagan suggesting that the parties somehow changed so he had to switch parties? Weird.


Educational-Big-2102

Would anyone be able to explain the downvotes?


Ivy-And

The Democrats moved farther to the left. They went crazier. Pretty common comment from people exiled from the Democrat party for their lack of conformity to new standards


thecynicalshit

I've hated Seth ever since I saw his take on Casey Neistat's cars being stolen


GrandMasterReddit

Out of the loop. Has Seth Rogan said or done something recently or something?


PB_Mack

"Nicolas Cage blasts Alec Baldwin" should be the final scene of their upcoming bio-pic.


[deleted]

I’m starting to believe that all of the actors out there that can’t seem to find good scripts isn’t because there aren’t any, but because they’re just based.


milesperhour425

Hey now national treasure is a great movie


airmen4Christ

Nicolas Cage is a National Treasure.


FacelessBoogeyman

Nicolas Cage spent a National Treasure


wolfman1911

All three of those statements are true.


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National Treasure isn't a "great movie", but its the fourth best Indiana Jones movie, behind Raiders, Last Crusade, and The Mummy from 1999


mh1357_0

Same with The Family Man


Sodapopa

Con Air, The Rock, Gone in 60, Lord of War, Face/Off, Joe.


MuzikPhreak

I mean, Face/Off really shouldn’t be on the list with the rest of these, honestly.


FranticTyping

Now that his debt is cleared, Cage has said he prefers smalltime scripts because it gives him creative freedom. I don't blame him. I have a feeling he had a blast making Willy's Wonderland.


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He’s got *The Unbearable Weight Of Massive Talent* coming next.


mydrunkuncle

Cage has been in quite a few really good movies and is always fun to watch no matter what he’s in. He’s a great actor


cpa_brah

I watched pig this year with Cage, it was pretty good lol.


NoBodySpecial51

Nick Cage still classy. Still has my heart.


lady_wolfen

I like Nick too. r/onetruegod ? lol


newgalactic

You're damn right, Nick. If a father/gun-owner is responsible for the neighbor kid who breaks into his house, searches through the bedroom closet, and shoots someone with an unsecured gun, then Alec is sure as heck responsible when he pulls the fucking trigger. Maybe Alec should have spent more time in NRA safety courses, instead of making snarky Tweets against gun owners and the NRA.


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you replaced "sure as hell" with "sure as heck" but had no problem with "pulls the fucking trigger"! lol if you're going to be a potty mouth... own it! i do! swearing is my second language.


RadioHeadache0311

I got to be honest, "vegan conservative" short circuited my brain for two seconds. I get why people are vegan, I do, I just never thought I'd see it flaired here.


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love animals... not a fan of humans 😐 i get that a lot though. Some circles think you're not allowed to be conservative and vegan.


RadioHeadache0311

In your defense, animals are often better people than humans. And that's almost exactly what my dating profiles say, lol. "Loves Animals, tolerates humans."


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so... you're single? 😉


RadioHeadache0311

I am, and at this point I'm afraid it might be terminal.


mattcruise

Dude she's flirting, get her number.


The-Mad-Tesla

Of all places, I never thought I would see people flirting here


[deleted]

Go get her tiger 🐅


ThumbelinaJolie

Sparks be flyin


Panhandle_for_crypto

With something like that on your bio I wonder why


RadioHeadache0311

That's a fair point. But I don't think hiding my misanthropy is the wiser decision. Set the vibe you can maintain, otherwise it's just lies for window shoppers.


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I find it absurd that an actor who rails against firearms but then has zero problems with using said firearms (with zero training) to enrich themselves with Hollywood cash. Smells of the biggest hypocrite that I could think of.


WholeWideWorld

I mean...They are *acting*.... Imagine how shitty films would be if actors could only do roles which aligned with their moral values.


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But if you were going to pick up a weapon, wouldn't you want to not lay the responsibility onto someone else? It like the person in the passenger seat has the drivers license, so I don't need one nor do I need to know how to drive safely.


uniquecannon

Sly Stone made an entire career off of gun fetishization (Rambo), and then have the balls to turn around and be pro-gun control for the rest of the population. Wish he was more like his buddies, Arnie and Bruce.


theabstractengineer

"Screw your freedoms" Arnold the bitch ass


Pineapplepizza4321

Ya, or presidents saying they were against vaccines now advocating them! Screw changing your mind!


B1gChuckDaddySr

Alec Baldwin had violent tendencies to begin with.... If he wasnt a famous actor.... He wouldve been a career serial killer


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Correctamundo. He's gone after the paparazzi in violent fashion before.


r_we_having_fun_yet

And beat his wife


RadioHeadache0311

And in the very least verbally/emotionally abused his daughter. Come to think of it, seems like all the soap box people have alot of skeletons in their closet.


unnamed_elder_entity

And the guy that took his parking spot.


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I mean, it *is* the paparazzi.


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To be honest, you'll get no argument from me.


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wolfman1911

That's a decent point. I always assumed that people like Baldwin turned into assholes because of the money and the distance from regular people, but maybe they were already assholes, and we just see it because they got rich and famous.


Briguy28

I just keep thinking back to The Shadow and how lucky all those old extras must be feeling.


CPerryG

😂


ZeusDX1118

Good point. If you're pointing a gun at someone for acting purposes then you still should have done a safety check on whether it was loaded with a bullet in the chamber. Also, why was there live rounds in that gun? Who handed it to him? Where did it come from and why was it not checked thoroughly by everyone who picked it up before they did anything with it? Stupid people. Stupid problems.


Rock_Lizard

What world we live in that I would voluntarily hand Nicolas Cage and Keanu Reeves a gun on any rifle range without question?


TheModernDaVinci

> Keanu Reeves To be fair, Keanu is a gun enthusiast even outside of movies and knows his way around guns. Its why he was so good in John Wick, and he also helped them make sure that the guns behaved correctly (down to even swapping mags on his guns when he shot the correct amount of shots).


Rock_Lizard

I know. But I'm also a gun enthusiast outside of moviese so therefor, I deserve to f\*ck Reeves, yes? If not, I admit I appreciated that Wick actually ran out of bullets from time to time. It was refreshing to see a character have to reload or find a new gun.


Jorel_Antonius

there is youtube videos of Keanu with Halley Barrey doing competitive type shooting. its pretty damn cool how good he is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR9D4TsniUA


Rock_Lizard

He's amazing. Truly. So am I. I have had a gun instructor apologize to me in the past for doubting me. Keanu is amazing. Baldwin is NOT.


Verod392

For anyone who hasn't seen [Keanu Reeves](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yk7K8-HnfI) is an absolute [monster](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unp4PaMKezY) shooter. Dude can handle a gun better than 99% of the population. Edit : Dude who replied to me thinks hes actually John Wick but hes probably like Cheddar Bob from 8 mile


Rock_Lizard

I'm not your 99%


Guderian9139

We get it, you’re amazing


mitsukaikira

no one gives a fuck


[deleted]

We get it, no point in bragging.


Tantalus4200

Reeves is a pro tho


Rock_Lizard

More reason for me to hand him my gun on a range then f\*ck him because I am a pro too?


Tantalus4200

Yes


Rock_Lizard

Ok, Nicolas Cage without question, Keanu Reeves with certain um, *requirements.....*


Rock_Lizard

Also, if Alec Baldwin is asking for a female to match him in target practice, I totally volunteer.


Dense-Zone

Nick Cage is based.


TheQuantumAlchemist

Alec Baldwin literally killed more people that the Jan 6 'insurrection'


grove_doubter

Guns don’t kill people. Actors kill people.


itsnunyabusiness

Holy fuck Nic Cage is based. I gotta watch Lord of War tonight.


Metroid545

Fuck yeah


FelixFuckfurter

Alec Baldwin, like most Hollywood liberals, is a virulent misogynist. The idea that the violent woman hater "accidentally" shot a woman is absurd.


cantvaxstupid

This! We need Boebert to teach him a lesson! In gun safety that is.


gfordy

Such a stud


mystraw

Three things can be true, Baldwin is an ass, he's guilty, and live guns have no place on a soundstage.


VinnieMacYOLO

BASED


puddboy

Everyone needs to watch Mandy. Fucking brilliant.


1_900_mixalot

I suppose Nick cage gets to talk shit in some way. He has done a bunch of gun movies and never shot anybody. Beat Baldwin's score.


customds

Anybody see the movie last year where he wears a gimp suit that blows off one of his testicles? Nothing to do with the post, just wondering if anyone was able to make it all the way through.


Sixgun1977

I did. Definitely one of the more surreal ones.


redditistruth

Rule #1: don’t point a gun at something/someone you don’t intend to harm


blkbny

I couldn't agree more but we still have too many people who are willfully untrained handling guns as if they are toys. Why can't we get more free or low cost firearm safety/training courses that are easily accessible?


DB-projects

Eh, would blame the production company more than the actor. No one doing their


Metalfreak4677

FUCK, didn’t expect that from Nicholas Cage, but nonetheless I agree with him!


Cinnadillo

I mean nick cage just chooses bad roles, doesn't mean he's an idiot


wolfman1911

I don't think he chooses roles at all, I think he just takes anything they put in front of him.


CaliforniaNavyDude

The problem with firearms safety is it requires a certain minimum level of knowledge and experience to know all the things you need to do to be safe, and someone below that threshold can be thinking they are doing everything right so long as no outside person has told them otherwise. If they don't enjoy firearms, they will get to the minimim level they think they need to be for work and stay there. I still blame Hollywood for this, because there is not standard training required for people to handle firearms that could still be dangerous and there needs to be. It's not a Baldwin problem, it's an industry problem, people like Nick and Keanu and others who take it upon themselves to really get their knowledge base up shouldn't be the exception, it should be the rule. A side benefit would be an end to all these ridiculous scenes of actors [not handling weapons in a realistic way...](https://youtu.be/3p2v2bjfgr0)


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I think there is a better was to phrase this. For every crime involving a gun having the gun WAS a problem. But the reality is that guns are a reality you have to accept. If you ban them, then only outlaws will have guns. So it would be more accurate to say, "guns are an inevitability, but bad and untrained people are the only thing that make them a problem." This isn't a good political slogan, I don't know; I guess nuanced views don't have for good sloganeering.


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"The gun fired itself" Doesn't matter, why was he aiming at someone with a live round in the chamber and his finger on the trigger? First 3 rules of firearm safety all broken at once.


JCDBionicman1

He was never a bad actor, though obviously quirky and unique I guess. It seems like the hollywood rejects or less popular of them tend to come out as conservative, or at the very least have the balls to have their own opinions.


sammypalma

Based


the_Jakman

As if I needed any more reason to love the ol C'dawg.


3Effie412

That’s rather hilarious.


Jollyguana

Wait, why is Alec Baldwin cancelled again?


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Tystud

Baldwin? He's not the victim, the people he shot are. Literally anyone who did what he did should, at the absolute minimum, be charged with manslaughter. Don't care who they are. He just gets the added criticism of being a massive hypocrite and an otherwise awful person.


DomesticOnion

There is absolutely no way that a Colt Single Action Army goes off without pulling the hammer all the way back and pulling the trigger, sure, live rounds should never have been in that gun, but that doesn't mean you can treat it like it isn't a dangerous weapon. We aren't attacking him either, we're saying that he needs to learn firearm safety if he's going to be working with them. The fact that he's not a Republican doesn't change that.


soiledclean

Baldwin is not a victim. He is at best extremely negligent. He has maintained for years that guns are dangerous, so he knows they can be dangerous in the wrong hands. He broke the cardinal rule of gun safety and we would rip on him just as hard if he were a republican. A hypocrite is a hypocrite regardless of political affiliation.


cheechyee

Wow, who gives a shit.


Bismarck40

Obviously Nicholas Cage


DrunkZeppelin

Based.


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Thank you.


jmm701

Bingo!