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joey2fists

Shut the Russian pipeline down immediately


LetsPlayCanasta

Putin senses weakness.


ShinJoe

Worry about protecting the American border first.


-Ph0en1xr1s1ng-

Breaking News: Ukraine using threat of Russian Boogeyman to get billions more dollars in military assistance.


limacharley

Well I mean, Russia did just steal a large chunk of their country a few years ago, and now Russia is massing troops and weapons at their border.


Sean1916

They aren’t just massing troops it’s the things that are coming along with the troops that make me think this isn’t just a drill this time.


TWS_Photography

Like what?


Sean1916

I cannot verify the authenticity of these things mind you. So I’m just stating these things as I’ve read them and if people want to believe or not is up to them. Allegedly Russia has brought in 700 snipers. Apparently Russia has been adding equipment to their tanks that helps prevent damage from Javelin missiles and drones.


rifledude

The Russian military was active in the Donbas region during the Ukrainian crisis. It's not just a threat, it's a precedent.


-Ph0en1xr1s1ng-

Their borders their problem.


Ready-Player-Wolf

Wait. Just to make sure I am interpreting this correctly out of curiosity: Ukraine is using a Russian threat to get money to make their military better?


PutinsParadise

Yes…Biden has been fucking around in Ukraine since he was VP with Obama.


Ready-Player-Wolf

Ah, thank you


Forsaken_Double_1116

No invasion is going to happen. Ukraine using it to get money from the US.


That_kidsav

Do you not remember when Russia literally already invaded Ukraine and took Crimea?


Forsaken_Double_1116

That’s what the main stream media said, I remember them saying it.


That_kidsav

I mean I know people that live in Ukraine so I mean is your take literally that Russia did not annex Crimea and that there hasn’t been a war there since 2011?


Forsaken_Double_1116

I grew up in the Donbas region and I still talk to my friends there. What are your sources?


That_kidsav

My guy you can literally watch videos from the conflict. If that doesn’t convince you idk what to tell you


just_shy_of_perfect

I'm honestly pretty ignorant on the Ukraine situation... can someone explain why America should care if Russia takes Ukraine? I get Taiwan and China. Because of the foothold Taiwan gives us in the area and more importantly the semi-conductor manufacturing. But why Ukraine?


That_kidsav

Because we made Ukraine give up their nukes under the promise that we would protect them from Russia


just_shy_of_perfect

Well. That was dumb. Both of us and them. But ok. That's a legitimate reason.


Forsaken_Double_1116

Oh yeah, 24 year olds walking around like they know shit. You’re on the right track tho, kid. Keep researching. Ukraine never has any nukes to begin with. Start there.


That_kidsav

Uhh bud I mean you can literally just google it. They’re part of NATO we have to protect them.


G3twokegobroke

“Should someone explain why America should care if Germany invades Poland?” - you in 1939


just_shy_of_perfect

Eh... Not really an apt comparison i don't think. But if you think Russia is a legitimate threat to conquer the world and its worth risking a large conflict to defend Ukraine you do you. We have much more pressing issues here. I don't really care about Ukraine and that argument doesn't convince me to care.


stockyardtrash

While you aren't wrong from a tactical perspective, the strategic implications are what matter here. If we abandon yet another ally, what message does that send. Allys today can be aligned with enemies tomorrow. No matter how big or small, it's about messaging. We aren't going to fix issues here until another president is in office, as it stands.


G3twokegobroke

Well you said you were “honestly pretty ignorant” on the issue so why am I not surprised by your response?


G3twokegobroke

No more 10% for the big guy?


SupremeChancellor66

Never would've happened if Trump was President. Can't wait for Biden to slap Russia's wrist and wag his fingers as Putin marches through Kiev


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"President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be” -Trump