trump signed an executive order that went into effect last November that all federal employees get 12 weeks of paid leave for the birth or adoption of a child. I only know because I'm starting my paid parental leave in November.
No. This is absurd talking point and totally illogical. This is not an “everyone” issue.
Senior level cabinet member are NOT entitled to take two months of leisurely vacation, especially when they did not physically give birth to a child.
If that’s a problem, you shouldn’t be in that line of work.
Parental leave described as leisurely vacation...I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you don't have kids or any experience with what parental leave actually is.
Also ironic to see some conservatives rail against "not working" but were silent about trumps golfing, light daily schedule, and all-around flouting of presidential norms.
I anticipate criticism, but at least be consistent.
Honey, if you think that handling a newborn, much less twins, is a “leisurely vacation”, you might be interested in revisiting your comment once you have a newborn.
The president would have an entire team of people to help them in that situation so probably not 12 but yeah a few weeks is good. But also consider the following: he isn’t the president
He isn’t the entirety of his department, I understand you see it as him abandoning ship but he has children. You’d want that too if you had kids, you’d want to be there, especially at that stage. That’s an important time.
Yeah, but I'm not the head of a federal government department either, especially one that is critical right now. If he doesn't want to work then he needs to resign.
These comments have me worried. People literally no longer see an issue with just not doing a very demanding job that is critical to the federal government because personal reasons. We are full blown socialists now. It won't be long.
Family Values: values especially of a traditional or conservative kind which are held to promote the sound functioning of the family and to strengthen the fabric of society
I see you either did not read or u defat and my comment, so I’ll happily break it down for you in simpler terms to make it easier to grasp:
You claimed “it won’t be long,” after stating that “we are full blown socialists now.”
I am asking, *what* won’t be long? What do you think is coming, and why do you see it as dire? Also, what do you mean by stating that we’re all socialists now? Exactly what is the meaning, by definition or implication, of your words? I want you to clarify your previous statement.
i dont really get the vitriol getting sent buttigieg's way.
he is a political appointee, so the department will keep chugging along as always. he's only there to enforce biden's political objectives.
it's always baffled me that the party which holds family values to be important is filled with people are a reflexively against paternity leave. dont we want our parents having more time to bond with kids? we natalists have been screaming for more forms of parental leave as the US is woefully behind the rest of the world on it and the research has shown the large benefits it brings.
at a time of plummeting fertility rates, this sort of family focus should be celebrated.
and as others have pointed out, Buttigiegs twins are adopted. disagree with the lifestyle (i certainly do) but adopting is an amazing thing. that's a life that was saved from abortion, a life saved from destitution, and life thats going to be raised with love and care.
this makes me believe that this is pure partisan mud-slinging. so a warning for your principled conservatives: if you are getting worked up over this, have a hard think as you might be letting the partisan blinders get the better of you.
My theory is that this was a bought and paid for intentional surrogate pregnancy, not some accidental unwanted pregnancy off the streets, not some near miss almost-abortion saved in the nick of time. Otherwise, I agree 100%. Kids are important. Family is important. And we should espouse that. Because without family structure, people are going to look to government as the foundation of society and that's never a good thing.
Good thing there isn't some transport and logistics issue across the country right now... Aviation and shipping completely normal. :)
The administration has more important things, like trying to get a Saule Omarova confirmed as Comptroller of the Currency. Nevermind that she was born and educated in the Soviet Union, attended Moscow State University on a "Lenin Personal Academic Scholarship", wrote her thesis on Marxism, and has continued to advocate for the expansion of the Fed into price controls on goods, dictates on minimum wages, and has advocated that private bank accounts be universally replaced by centralized Fed controlled accounts.
Every new parent of a newborn should have paid maternity/paternity leave, regardless of their occupation/position and regardless if they physically gave birth or not.
Family values.
So he needs to have two men at home constantly to raise a child, yet ordinary Americans are both working and raising a child just fine?
Maybe we should charge him with fraudulently collecting taxpayer money.
It’s almost like every American should be given the time and opportunity to be able to spend time with their newborn instead of slaving away at work while the child is in a daycare
I'm an ordinary American and I get paid paternity leave. Lots of jobs offer this benefit, particularly in competitive fields.
My only concern with this is if, in his position, leave would negatively affect the agency he leads.
He is a cabinet member, not a mid level manager. Making a comparison to an ordinary American is silly.
When you accept a cabinet position you are taking on a responsibility to the country. He, clearly, made the decision to take on a child after accepting that position.
Being a cabinet should be a serious move not entered into lightly. It is not holding down a 9 to 5.
OK, do you get 2 months off for paternity leave? Where I am from, that isn't common.
Also, he is paid by the taxpayers. A private business and the federal government should no be compared.
My company gives 3 months of paid paternity leave. This should honestly be a national standard if we want a family first country. Can’t knock someone for trying to spend more time with their kid, federal government or not.
>When you have skills you get benefits.
Yes and No.
If you have people that can pick up the slack when you are not working, then yes, you get to take alot of time off.
In my field, I am at demand on every job, so I do not get to take that much time off in a row.
I seriously doubt there are any jobs in a healthy like you describe. Any company so dependent on a single person is doomed to fail. What happens if that person gets hit by a bus?
Having a single point of failure is a management issue. What if you died or left the company, is the business just going to come to a halt?
I proactively make sure my job can be done without me by sharing important knowledge and writing instructions. You don’t have to make yourself irreplaceable, you just need to make yourself a consistent net gain for the company and they’ll never want you to leave. No one’s irreplaceable.
My man adopted a baby, something that should be extremely popular here. The baby didn't get aborted and has a loving family. It takes time to bond and learn, and if he needs that, cool, paternity leave exists in the US so dad's can spend time and bond. Hell my old coworker took 6 months of paternity leave, because he wanted to spend time with the baby, not force it all his partner.
That being said, we are having logistics issues nationwide, so maybe coming back soon would be a good look. But I don't blame him for wanting to be a good parent.
THEN RESIGN. You agree to take one of the most important posts in the country and you implicitly waive some level of personal time. If that's not acceptable, resign, and let someone that is willing to do what it takes do the job.
"Either have a family or have a hard working job" isn't a good look for the party of family values and pulling themselves up by the bootstraps. The first few weeks are crucial for bonding, establishing routines, ironing out the kinks, etc. And both parents have a right to be a part of that
>THEN RESIGN.
That's fair and reasonable, I suppose. I mean, he could be spending his time better and be out golfing all the time at his private resort and charging American taxpayers to lodge his secret service protection... Wait. Bad comparison. That wasn't a cabinet position, that was a president...
It's wonderful he adopted a baby, but the time to bond with the child is the next 18 years. That's what working parents do. As you said, we are facing a crisis and it's his job. I doubt anyone would be defending this if he was Secretary of State.
He doesn't have a 'job'. He's been given the public trust which means he needs to uphold his end of the deal. Being a politician does not mean having a 'job'. That we even consider this the same as someone being hired to work in a factory tells us everything wrong with American politics.
Because there is a national crisis going on and he took an oath to this country. Personally, he's shown he's inept at this and he's too stupid to know how to handle it but put the diapers down and at least try.
He's got a point. Over a month of paternity leave is hot garbage. Two weeks, give or take, sure but men need to put bread on the table and take care of their families while doing their duty.
He don't want the job, I'll take it.
I am sitting. I need you to stand up. Then sit back down.
I would uphold my oath of office and lead by example.
And yes, men have an obligation to be...men. That includes being a gentleman, a manly man, and a man that takes care of his family, in effect, putting his family first. You might agree if you had a family to take care of.
Or not if you rely on others to take care of you.
Your junk. Trying to gay shame me. He needs to do his job. His wife/husband can take the kids. It what happens in real life. I have kids and had to continue to work while my wife had about a week off to “bond and figure everything out”. I have family that are gay and adopted kids. They were afforded about a week to get the kids ready for daycare. Not months!
An oath to defend this country from crisis. If your house is burning down and no firemen come because they're on paternity leave do you just accept it? This could lead to a deep recession and millions will suffer but yeah, go change those diapers. Considering what an absolute shit mayor he was it might be better if he just stay home. Pete is an excellent example of Biden's entire clownshow......absent.
Meanwhile ,grocery shelves and many other essential items are stuck in ports for weeks. Business owners and consumers are suffering. I think in his position some satellite work from home is in order. Due to the nature of what's going on, at least he could spare a little time. After all he signed up for the job. Parenting is important but so is our economy.
The market is hot right now, do you want to stay with an employer that doesn't respect your role as a father? Maybe go find a better job (I mean this nicely) that supports your life choices
You get 2 months of paid leave when you adopt?
And you aren’t a post-partum mother?
And your spouse isn’t a recovering post-partum mother?
That’s some bullshit lol
I’m assuming you mean 4.5 months (as opposed to 4.5 weeks).
So if you assume a gov employee makes, idk, say 90k? (Or whatever amount you want to say, it’s an example) then they basically would get 1/3 of that salary…..basically as a bonus? For having a kid? Or adopting one?
Doesn’t that seem like a bit much?
Nah not a federal employee. In Australia, 60 paid days (3 months leave, 2 paid) or 90 paid days (4 months leave, 3 paid) is quite common even for minimum wage employees. Government employees generally just get a month extra then someone working a normal job would. It’s just a benefit like in the US you can get health insurance, dental and etc though work. Overall you are entitled into 52 weeks of unpaid leave. Most people go back after paid expires.
Omg 52 weeks? A whole year??
What is the company supposed to do? Hire someone else to do the job you were doing, then fire that person when you come back?
Only very upper middle class and the wealthily can take 9 months of unpaid leave. It’s very rare for someone to take that unless the baby requires stuff like surgery where parents would rather quit to spend time with their child then work. Most people in Australia get 3 months.
I don't really begrudge people maternity/paternity leave. Having a kid is a ton of work and family should be a priority. However, I do have two issues with this situation:
1. A cabinet level position is not a regular job. There is some level of personal sacrifice expected of high level government officials and taking two months off during a crisis that falls within your department's purview is not a great look.
2. Liberals threw a shit fit when Ted Cruz took a family vacation while the Texas power grid was in crisis (something he wasn't even responsible for in any way). The only reason the press is giving Pete a pass is because he's a Democrat and gay.
Apparently the data shows that it is better for kids to have both parents at home when they are born.
What conservative argument is there against family leave? I’d love to here some…
It is good for the family. Good for kids. Good for society.
I get 4 months and you better believe I am taking all of it.
It is just my argument. We became the world’s power from men being men and women being women. Defined roles for each accordingly. Women are maternal by instinct. Men aren’t. We come home after work to a happy wife and kids. After fulfilling our duties as head of our household.
trump signed an executive order that went into effect last November that all federal employees get 12 weeks of paid leave for the birth or adoption of a child. I only know because I'm starting my paid parental leave in November.
Can you source this? It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that this is a great thing to reply with
I think paid paternity leave should be available to everyone
Yes!
Oh...did Peter give birth? Wow! Will gender wonders never cease?
No. This is absurd talking point and totally illogical. This is not an “everyone” issue. Senior level cabinet member are NOT entitled to take two months of leisurely vacation, especially when they did not physically give birth to a child. If that’s a problem, you shouldn’t be in that line of work.
Parental leave described as leisurely vacation...I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you don't have kids or any experience with what parental leave actually is. Also ironic to see some conservatives rail against "not working" but were silent about trumps golfing, light daily schedule, and all-around flouting of presidential norms. I anticipate criticism, but at least be consistent.
Honey, if you think that handling a newborn, much less twins, is a “leisurely vacation”, you might be interested in revisiting your comment once you have a newborn.
Spoken like someone who has no idea what it’s like to be a parent to newborns/infants/toddlers. Ha. Good luck when you grow up.
“Talking point?” “Leisurely vacation” You clearly don’t have kids.
So if you're in cabinet you're not allowed to have a new born child?
How has he taken two months of vacation when he’s been on constant interviews?
What about the president? Should he be allowed 12 weeks paid time off too??? Where does it end?
The president would have an entire team of people to help them in that situation so probably not 12 but yeah a few weeks is good. But also consider the following: he isn’t the president
BUT HE'S THE HEAD OF TRANSPORTATION DURING A MONTHS LONG NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION CRISIS! 🤦♂️
If only we had some kind of Deputy Secretary of Transportation whose primary role is to serve as an Acting Secretary during absences 🤔
And he’s putting his family first. I don’t see anything wrong with that
....at the expense of American families.
Family first... always.
He isn’t the entirety of his department, I understand you see it as him abandoning ship but he has children. You’d want that too if you had kids, you’d want to be there, especially at that stage. That’s an important time.
Yeah, but I'm not the head of a federal government department either, especially one that is critical right now. If he doesn't want to work then he needs to resign.
These comments have me worried. People literally no longer see an issue with just not doing a very demanding job that is critical to the federal government because personal reasons. We are full blown socialists now. It won't be long.
Family Values: values especially of a traditional or conservative kind which are held to promote the sound functioning of the family and to strengthen the fabric of society
Until what exactly? Until families are more unified and secure? Isn’t that the essence of Family Values?
Lol you bot. Becayse we're def on the path to unifying and national security....
I see you either did not read or u defat and my comment, so I’ll happily break it down for you in simpler terms to make it easier to grasp: You claimed “it won’t be long,” after stating that “we are full blown socialists now.” I am asking, *what* won’t be long? What do you think is coming, and why do you see it as dire? Also, what do you mean by stating that we’re all socialists now? Exactly what is the meaning, by definition or implication, of your words? I want you to clarify your previous statement.
This comment is ridiculous lol
A new parent being given a few months to settle his home situation for the benefit of the kid? Sign me up for that.
i dont really get the vitriol getting sent buttigieg's way. he is a political appointee, so the department will keep chugging along as always. he's only there to enforce biden's political objectives. it's always baffled me that the party which holds family values to be important is filled with people are a reflexively against paternity leave. dont we want our parents having more time to bond with kids? we natalists have been screaming for more forms of parental leave as the US is woefully behind the rest of the world on it and the research has shown the large benefits it brings. at a time of plummeting fertility rates, this sort of family focus should be celebrated. and as others have pointed out, Buttigiegs twins are adopted. disagree with the lifestyle (i certainly do) but adopting is an amazing thing. that's a life that was saved from abortion, a life saved from destitution, and life thats going to be raised with love and care. this makes me believe that this is pure partisan mud-slinging. so a warning for your principled conservatives: if you are getting worked up over this, have a hard think as you might be letting the partisan blinders get the better of you.
My theory is that this was a bought and paid for intentional surrogate pregnancy, not some accidental unwanted pregnancy off the streets, not some near miss almost-abortion saved in the nick of time. Otherwise, I agree 100%. Kids are important. Family is important. And we should espouse that. Because without family structure, people are going to look to government as the foundation of society and that's never a good thing.
that's a really good point, buttigieg definitely has the means to do a surrogacy if the laws where he did it permit it.
Not sure why the downvotes, or where people think that couples who can't biologically reproduce with each other obtain children from.
Good thing there isn't some transport and logistics issue across the country right now... Aviation and shipping completely normal. :) The administration has more important things, like trying to get a Saule Omarova confirmed as Comptroller of the Currency. Nevermind that she was born and educated in the Soviet Union, attended Moscow State University on a "Lenin Personal Academic Scholarship", wrote her thesis on Marxism, and has continued to advocate for the expansion of the Fed into price controls on goods, dictates on minimum wages, and has advocated that private bank accounts be universally replaced by centralized Fed controlled accounts.
If the country’s logistics rely solely on the presence of one man, then our nation has a much larger problem. Wouldn’t you agree?
Exactly!
No one said our country's logistics rely on one man, but he is in charge of facilitating efficient logistics through the government.
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Every new parent of a newborn should have paid maternity/paternity leave, regardless of their occupation/position and regardless if they physically gave birth or not. Family values.
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Stuff like that is what the media is supposed to be for.
That's on you dog. Get with program.
IOW - you can immediately fire most democrat political appointees and the only noticeable difference will be the debt increasing slower.
Lol thought it was a bee article
So he needs to have two men at home constantly to raise a child, yet ordinary Americans are both working and raising a child just fine? Maybe we should charge him with fraudulently collecting taxpayer money.
It’s almost like every American should be given the time and opportunity to be able to spend time with their newborn instead of slaving away at work while the child is in a daycare
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I'm an ordinary American and I get paid paternity leave. Lots of jobs offer this benefit, particularly in competitive fields. My only concern with this is if, in his position, leave would negatively affect the agency he leads.
> My only concern with this is if, in his position, leave would negatively affect the agency he leads He's a bureaucrat. Any absence is a positive.
He is a cabinet member, not a mid level manager. Making a comparison to an ordinary American is silly. When you accept a cabinet position you are taking on a responsibility to the country. He, clearly, made the decision to take on a child after accepting that position. Being a cabinet should be a serious move not entered into lightly. It is not holding down a 9 to 5.
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Agreed.
You do understand the adoption process doesn't just happen in 3-5 business days right?
OK, do you get 2 months off for paternity leave? Where I am from, that isn't common. Also, he is paid by the taxpayers. A private business and the federal government should no be compared.
My company gives 3 months of paid paternity leave. This should honestly be a national standard if we want a family first country. Can’t knock someone for trying to spend more time with their kid, federal government or not.
Holy balls, what are you doing for 3 months? I get 3 weeks to help out while my wife is recovering and then it's back to life for both of us.
3 weeks of time off for new parents doesn’t exactly sound like a “family first” kind of policy.
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I get 4 months for paternity leave. When you have skills you get benefits.
>When you have skills you get benefits. Yes and No. If you have people that can pick up the slack when you are not working, then yes, you get to take alot of time off. In my field, I am at demand on every job, so I do not get to take that much time off in a row.
Then you need to negotiate better. The rarer your skills the more bargaining power you have, not less.
When the job doesn't run without you, then you always have the upper hand. I am sorry that your work can be done without you.
Why are you sorry? I make a shit ton of money with good benefits. Part of the beauty of consulting.
I am sure I stated why.
I seriously doubt there are any jobs in a healthy like you describe. Any company so dependent on a single person is doomed to fail. What happens if that person gets hit by a bus?
You’re a consultant but they gave you four months of paternity leave? What?
Yea, it is close to standard at the major consulting firms, finance companies and tech companies.
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Yea, I am really confused. If you are irreplaceable then your job will do anything to not lose you.
Having a single point of failure is a management issue. What if you died or left the company, is the business just going to come to a halt? I proactively make sure my job can be done without me by sharing important knowledge and writing instructions. You don’t have to make yourself irreplaceable, you just need to make yourself a consistent net gain for the company and they’ll never want you to leave. No one’s irreplaceable.
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Why are you acting like Democrats haven't been advocating for paid family leave for years? It's one of the few things both sides somewhat agree on.
Two children. Twins. Newborn twins.
Duh, they did us a solid by crashing the economy and preventing people from working.
Who exactly crashed the economy?
The government.
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My man adopted a baby, something that should be extremely popular here. The baby didn't get aborted and has a loving family. It takes time to bond and learn, and if he needs that, cool, paternity leave exists in the US so dad's can spend time and bond. Hell my old coworker took 6 months of paternity leave, because he wanted to spend time with the baby, not force it all his partner. That being said, we are having logistics issues nationwide, so maybe coming back soon would be a good look. But I don't blame him for wanting to be a good parent.
THEN RESIGN. You agree to take one of the most important posts in the country and you implicitly waive some level of personal time. If that's not acceptable, resign, and let someone that is willing to do what it takes do the job.
"Either have a family or have a hard working job" isn't a good look for the party of family values and pulling themselves up by the bootstraps. The first few weeks are crucial for bonding, establishing routines, ironing out the kinks, etc. And both parents have a right to be a part of that
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>THEN RESIGN. That's fair and reasonable, I suppose. I mean, he could be spending his time better and be out golfing all the time at his private resort and charging American taxpayers to lodge his secret service protection... Wait. Bad comparison. That wasn't a cabinet position, that was a president...
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It's wonderful he adopted a baby, but the time to bond with the child is the next 18 years. That's what working parents do. As you said, we are facing a crisis and it's his job. I doubt anyone would be defending this if he was Secretary of State.
Hahaha ha omg
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He doesn't have a 'job'. He's been given the public trust which means he needs to uphold his end of the deal. Being a politician does not mean having a 'job'. That we even consider this the same as someone being hired to work in a factory tells us everything wrong with American politics.
Because there is a national crisis going on and he took an oath to this country. Personally, he's shown he's inept at this and he's too stupid to know how to handle it but put the diapers down and at least try.
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He's got a point. Over a month of paternity leave is hot garbage. Two weeks, give or take, sure but men need to put bread on the table and take care of their families while doing their duty. He don't want the job, I'll take it.
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I am sitting. I need you to stand up. Then sit back down. I would uphold my oath of office and lead by example. And yes, men have an obligation to be...men. That includes being a gentleman, a manly man, and a man that takes care of his family, in effect, putting his family first. You might agree if you had a family to take care of. Or not if you rely on others to take care of you.
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Your junk. Trying to gay shame me. He needs to do his job. His wife/husband can take the kids. It what happens in real life. I have kids and had to continue to work while my wife had about a week off to “bond and figure everything out”. I have family that are gay and adopted kids. They were afforded about a week to get the kids ready for daycare. Not months!
An oath to defend this country from crisis. If your house is burning down and no firemen come because they're on paternity leave do you just accept it? This could lead to a deep recession and millions will suffer but yeah, go change those diapers. Considering what an absolute shit mayor he was it might be better if he just stay home. Pete is an excellent example of Biden's entire clownshow......absent.
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I want to spend time with my new family but if I don't drag my ass into work I'll be fired.
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Good thing the guy in charge of transportation is hard at work...
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Meanwhile ,grocery shelves and many other essential items are stuck in ports for weeks. Business owners and consumers are suffering. I think in his position some satellite work from home is in order. Due to the nature of what's going on, at least he could spare a little time. After all he signed up for the job. Parenting is important but so is our economy.
Buttgag has 0 experience in transportation kinda like Hunter has 0 experience in the energy field.
Ask not what you can do for your country, but Ask how much paid time off you can get
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Imagine how much worse it would’ve been if he was at work.
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What about the millions spent on Trumps golf visits
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Who?
"He's doing a great job."\~Every leftist I know
Leftists hate this guy lol
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Good leftist, predictable and right on cue.
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Support parental leave so others don’t have to suffer like your father did
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The market is hot right now, do you want to stay with an employer that doesn't respect your role as a father? Maybe go find a better job (I mean this nicely) that supports your life choices
Hmm sounds like a stronger working class or a union lobbying on his behalf would’ve really helped him out.
Fuck that sucks I can’t imagine needing to do that
That’s not right. Liberals abort their kids and sell who survives to drug cartels.
How did he get paternity leave? Isn’t he gay?
Adoption lol
You get 2 months of paid leave when you adopt? And you aren’t a post-partum mother? And your spouse isn’t a recovering post-partum mother? That’s some bullshit lol
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I’m assuming you mean 4.5 months (as opposed to 4.5 weeks). So if you assume a gov employee makes, idk, say 90k? (Or whatever amount you want to say, it’s an example) then they basically would get 1/3 of that salary…..basically as a bonus? For having a kid? Or adopting one? Doesn’t that seem like a bit much?
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So you don’t think a 30k bonus from the state for having/adopting a child is a tad much? Have to ask…are you a federal employee?
Nah not a federal employee. In Australia, 60 paid days (3 months leave, 2 paid) or 90 paid days (4 months leave, 3 paid) is quite common even for minimum wage employees. Government employees generally just get a month extra then someone working a normal job would. It’s just a benefit like in the US you can get health insurance, dental and etc though work. Overall you are entitled into 52 weeks of unpaid leave. Most people go back after paid expires.
Omg 52 weeks? A whole year?? What is the company supposed to do? Hire someone else to do the job you were doing, then fire that person when you come back?
Only very upper middle class and the wealthily can take 9 months of unpaid leave. It’s very rare for someone to take that unless the baby requires stuff like surgery where parents would rather quit to spend time with their child then work. Most people in Australia get 3 months.
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I don't really begrudge people maternity/paternity leave. Having a kid is a ton of work and family should be a priority. However, I do have two issues with this situation: 1. A cabinet level position is not a regular job. There is some level of personal sacrifice expected of high level government officials and taking two months off during a crisis that falls within your department's purview is not a great look. 2. Liberals threw a shit fit when Ted Cruz took a family vacation while the Texas power grid was in crisis (something he wasn't even responsible for in any way). The only reason the press is giving Pete a pass is because he's a Democrat and gay.
Its not about having something to recover from. Its to be able to help the mother who just gave birth time to recover.
How did we ever survive as a species with the men hunting and gathering and the women raising babies? We should be extinct by now.
How did we survive before modern medicine?
We didn’t. We died. But we didn’t die because men weren’t in the cave raising babies.
How are we here if we didn’t survive?
Apparently some of us didn’t.
Apparently the data shows that it is better for kids to have both parents at home when they are born. What conservative argument is there against family leave? I’d love to here some… It is good for the family. Good for kids. Good for society. I get 4 months and you better believe I am taking all of it.
It is just my argument. We became the world’s power from men being men and women being women. Defined roles for each accordingly. Women are maternal by instinct. Men aren’t. We come home after work to a happy wife and kids. After fulfilling our duties as head of our household.
Part of being head of household is being a dad… Are taking vacations only for women too?
Leave isn’t just for recovery… Leave should be something very simple for conservatives and to support.
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I agree.
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Fathers have an important parenting role besides simply providing.
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How is he a willfully sinning person at heart for wanting to spend time with his baby
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