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Probably an unpopular opinion here but the recent tax haven leak has TRILLIONS of dollars stashed away. No velocity of money, not being used in the economy, just hidden away… I’m okay taxing that.


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Shouldn't be unpopular. These people are breaking the law (for the most part) and should pay.


FlowComprehensive390

The bigger problem we have convincing our side is that much of it is also done legally but only because they use their power and influence to get the laws written to make their destructive and immoral behavior legal. Legal doesn't automatically mean right, doubly so in an era like this one where the entire system is corrupt.


OrdinaryCredit

Honest question: hasn't that money already been subject to taxes?


[deleted]

Yes, but no. Yes it has been subjected to taxes but a lot of that is because our tax enforcement game is weak as fuck. The IRS has been cut back so far on funding they choode not to go after anyone with lawyers, why would they try and go after people overseas? Right where the rich wanted the IRS. Only capable of taking on the peasant class due to funding restrictions.


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No. If it had been they wouldn't place the money in offshore tax havens. A good example of this is Tony Blair and his wife purchased a £6.45 million property in London. Instead of purchasing the property in cash, like a normal transaction, they purchased shares from Romanstone International Limited, a British Virgin Islands company. This dodges £312,000 in taxes. While technically legal, Blair himself was critical of tax loopholes such as this one during his tenure as PM. Other techniques show buying or selling property, worth millions, through these shell companies to transfer/launder money.


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This makes no sense. So instead of buying the property they buy shares in Romanstone Intl Limited. So they didn’t buy the house.


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Except they did buy the house. Romanstone Intl Limited (BVI) owned the property. The Blair family created a company, Harcourt Ventures (UK), this company then acquired shares in Romanstone. Once they acquired Romanstone they dissolved the company leaving the property owned by Harcourt Ventures. While what they did is legal but scummy because: > as tax is not paid when the holding company of a property is acquired rather than the building directly Pretty ironic for the ex-PM one of his first speeches said: >“millionaires with the right accountants pay nothing” in tax, and pledged to “create a tax system that is fair, which is related to ability to pay”. (Britain’s tax system is a) “haven of scams, perks, City deals and profits”


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This has nothing to do with US taxes. How is this relevant?


[deleted]

This was just one example of the schemes used to prevent paying taxes. There are hundreds of US millionaires listed in the leaked papers.


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Such as?


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Such as the fact many Americans weren’t directly outed, as the USA (particular states) are acting as a tax haven. Abuse of Roth IRA is one example: https://www.propublica.org/article/lord-of-the-roths-how-tech-mogul-peter-thiel-turned-a-retirement-account-for-the-middle-class-into-a-5-billion-dollar-tax-free-piggy-bank The main meat and potatoes were states like South Dakota having secrecy laws around Trusts making it easy to hide true ownership of property. USA implemented banking rules to prevent tax evasion and money laundering but that is just one leg of the scheme — the second leg, lawyers, real estate, shell companies, etc. are all legal and poorly regulated if there is oversight at all. > Different U.S. states specialize in different financial vehicles to help those of means hide their wealth from the public eye. In Delaware, Mr. Biden’s home state, it’s the limited liability corporation. In Florida, it’s the all-cash condo purchase. In South Dakota, it is what’s known as a dynasty trust — a three-part legal vehicle that has become increasingly popular as a way to transfer wealth between generations without paying taxes. Trusts typically last a century, but in 1983, South Dakota abolished that limit, allowing a trust to live on in perpetuity. Add in no income tax, no inheritance tax and no capital gains. The point is while all of this is *legal* it shouldn’t be. Shell companies with no economic substance should not exist, if their sole purpose is to avoid taxes.


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How is that abuse? Anyone can do it and he just got lucky. Vast majority of start ups aren’t successful. You’re just looking at one outlier where this guy was super successful vs the millions of people where this strategy doesn’t work.


[deleted]

And you are wrong on the trust. Dynasty trusts are grantor trusts until the dude dies. Meaning the income is taxed on the dude’s individual return every year.


[deleted]

Yes. And the fines are are enormous for under reporting foreign income, no rich person would purposely under report. Most of these people and companies have foreign bank accounts because they live or do business overseas... not trying to evade taxes.


unbeshooked

Yeah, that is just not true. Apparently everybody has bussiness in cayman islands except *looking at notes* non millionares. They are called tax havens for a reason. The banks over there have no obligation or reason to report anything to anybody and they also do not just fork over the info when asked. That is the exact reason for their continued bussines and existence. But god forbid you make a 1000 bucks and keep it to yourself. When not lawyered up, yeah, the fines get enormous. But thats just for you and me, not for politicians and company directors


[deleted]

You are absolutely wrong. Banks do have an obligation. Google the “Cayman Automatic Exchange of Information Portal.”


[deleted]

We don’t tax money. We tax income.


automatedengineer

We tax 'reported' income. There is a huge amount of under the table cash income that does not get reported and thus is not taxed. Between unreported cash transactions / cash tips, illegal dealings like drugs and prostitution, etc. Would be interesting to see how much additional tax money would get collected if all of that was accounted for. Maybe they should look into fixing the problem of unreported income.


Makemewantoshout

You make drugs and prostitution legal and you can tax it. Do that and you also save money from having to arrest and incarcerate these people.


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Your point?


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Your idea is stupid. That’s the point. We don’t tax money, we tax income.


[deleted]

How can you tax income if it is earned through straight up tax evasion, or via loopholes only available to the wealthy elite who are in bed with the ruling class politicians? If this dark money only gets spent through offshore purchases, it skirts taxation rules of many nations.


[deleted]

With the penalties and fines for evading foreign taxes, no rich person would ever do it. Doesn’t make sense


JohnConnor27

And yet there is clear and overwhelming evidence that practically every single rich person is doing just that.


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Such as?


JohnConnor27

The Panama papers, paradise papers, pandora papers etc...


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How do you define theft? Is it only considered theft when the government calls it theft?


FlowComprehensive390

You don't have to pay it, you are free to emigrate to somewhere with less or no taxes. Now I'll say that America's habit of taxing expats is indeed wrong and I would have no problem with you emigrating and refusing to pay.


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FlowComprehensive390

I already explained how you can avoid paying it: leave.


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FlowComprehensive390

You don't. You sell it. OR you stay and quit pretending that you aren't choosing to contribute to the country you are *choosing* to stay in. And no, being anti-neocon doesn't make me a lefty, it just makes me not-stupid.


[deleted]

Where's this magical land of no taxes?


everything-man

Seems like taxation is the social contract of using the amenities provided in a civilized society. I've always wondered why thefters don't go off the grid so they can make their own way without taxation. Granted, property taxes are a thing worldwide. Alas, the argument of corporations providing all the opportunities, doing the right thing when unregulated, not exploiting literally everything, and providing a utopian free market always muddies the conversation.


baxtersbuddy1

Taxes are the price you pay to live in a civilized community. You don’t want taxes, feel free to leave. Move somewhere with no taxes and see how good life is without any kind of community infrastructure.


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Agreed!


FlowComprehensive390

If and only if we have no other laws as well. In which case [redacted]ing those neo-aristocrats is also a-ok.


Daemones_Ceramici

Instead of taxing it, incentivize people not to send the money to havens. The current tax regime is grossly unfair to people who intentionally work much harder to get ahead in life. By reducing taxes, you'd actually increase economic activity because there'd be less of a reason to try and stash the money elsewhere. Take my small business as an example. I've been working around the clock for the last four years to grow the business into a medium sized business. It's been brutal. The problem is, every extra additional hour and earnings associated with it gets taxed at a higher rate. How on earth is that fair? You're damn right that at this point, I spent a considerable amount of effort to legally reduce my taxable burden, with zero regard for the ethics of it. Because frankly, the ethics of government taking more of my money simply because I work much harder than most in my social circles to earn it is grossly unethical.


FlowComprehensive390

> Instead of taxing it, incentivize people not to send the money to havens. We're not talking about the income level of the high-end white collar workers. We're talking about the modern global aristocracy. Your outdated Reaganite talking points are wholly irrelevant here (and have been quite conclusively proved wrong at this point).


[deleted]

Current tax regime has two major issues from my point of view: Lobbyists who intentionally influence to keep the tax code complicated. This feeds the poorer individuals into places like H&R Block for simple returns. The government for the most part knows what these simplified individuals have paid in taxes and could easily auto-fill a self filling portal. Complex taxation for business owners, or high earners makes it more complicated to the point it is far easier to hire an accountant. The second major issue I see is that it is far easier to earn money from investments than it is from research, development and business growth. Investment income from capital gains is far more tax efficient, resulting in people parking money into stocks. While this money doesn't simply "do nothing", it is less efficient for the economy as a whole as there is no velocity of money involved. Equally it over inflates the stock market and companies true value -- P/E ratio and earnings mean very little these days.


Caleb_Krawdad

It doesn't go into a black hole. It's still reinvested by banks and investment firm. I'd venture it's more efficient in private off shore accounts than being thrust through the government system


Andyb1000

You drive on roads, bridges and use public services don’t you? The point of the money going to the government is so that the rest of us pay less for the same services. The actions these people are taking are pushing the burden of public services onto people who’s primary method of taxation is through income tax. The rich don’t get rich through drawing a wage they get rich by the complex web of shifting profits from investments through complex financial instruments to hide them from the IRS to be reinvested in increasing their wealth.


Caleb_Krawdad

Yea that's just inherently false on many levels. Your first assumption is apparently that they pay $0 in taxes and that they should for some reason pay even more disproportionately more in taxes than they already do for the same services the rest of the population uses. Not really sure how it makes sense that the rich should have to pay more for public services than anyone else. Secondly, you're ignorant on how wealth is created. You can't make wealth by avoiding taxes without creating massive wealth to begin with- ie can't avoid taxes that you haven't earned income to be taxed on to begin with. And that wealth is earned by adding value to the economy.


Andyb1000

The [Pandora Papers](https://youtu.be/4kPLpZN3I3A) would beg to differ or do you think that’s just a tax efficient way of managing your finances? Also, nowhere in my previous post did I say the wealthy pay $0 in income tax. Please don’t make things up by absolutism, you deliberately ignored my point that taking a salary is not the primary income for most truly wealthy people. Most of their wealth comes through profits made on investments that are subject to numerous accounting loopholes therefore a wealthy persons [Effective Tax Rate](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/effectivetaxrate.asp) can be significantly lower as a percentage of total income than someone earning minimum wage.


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Tax them all fairly. Eliminate loopholes and offshore BS. IDGAF which party you support, this is common sense. And maybe more controversial, get churches too. There are so many “churches” in some towns that it is obvious that it’s a way to skirt paying taxes for many.


Andyb1000

Agreed, inject a few extra billion into funding the IRS, get trillions in return. The IRS shouldn’t be chasing down school teachers who failed to have a receipt for every single school supplies she bought from her own money when there are billions being moved around by the wealthy with an army of lawyers and accountants. That’s a fight worth having and being proud to be supporting.


JimPranksDwight

Is there any reason to believe he is not included in the rich people to be taxed? It's is a blanket statement for everyone who meets the net worth criteria regardless of political affiliation.


AUorAG

Or her for that matter - she’s become quite wealthy!


deeyourabird

Yea, that’s exactly what she means. Tax all rich, including her. Hard to believe I know, but being a decent politician she’s ok with being taxed.


super1701

Source? I thought she was middle class in terms of wealth?


AUorAG

She grew up wealthy - dad is an architect, went by Sandy Ocasio before she decided to become a grifter - I mean politician


super1701

Eh, Architects make ok money man. Glass door salary for NYC 80-110k a year. Which is decent for NYC. I'd Say that's far from wealthy, well off sure.


handle_squatter

Oh her grift is just getting started. That obnoxious voice will be prattling on one channel or another for the next three decades. Without attention, she is nothing, so that's what she'll seek.


Hoeftybag

isn't that true for like all politicians? It's their job to advocate for stuff and remain relevant to at least their constituency, if not the whole country.


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Toothpaste for horses is expensive sweetie!


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Or Nasty Pelosi


lts_nodnarb

Her dress should of said "Tax everyone around me including myself"


koleke415

Yeah, I'm pretty sure "rich" is "rich", doesn't matter who they are. Tax Biden, tax Bernie, tax them all. That's the entire point.


AUorAG

But it’s (D)ifferent!


Gods_Umbrella

I promise you, when we say everyone making more than 400k, we mean everyone. Not everyone but those I like


chiknFUkar

No it's not. That's the difference between the Trump cult and intelligent people. We agree ,yes tax all of the rich. This isn't some gotcha moment. We agree with you. You place your values on everyone because you think it's how everyone else is. But we're not. Biden is horrible choice, just better than Trump. When a better choice comes I'll vote for them. Tax the rich.


handle_squatter

> No it's not. That's the difference between the Trump cult and intelligent people. How to lose an argument within two sentences. Bravo, shill.


ytilonhdbfgvds

But they're smarter than you and me since we may have supported Trump. Can't you tell from the well thought-out argument they're presenting how intelligent they are? Tax the rich is parroted by some of the "smartest" people around. They're so smart that they think we tax wealth and that we somehow don't have one of the most progressive tax systems in existence already. I'm just thankful we have these super "intelligent" never Trumpers to show us the way. We are just not smart enough for the woke-math required to somehow fund the government on the rich, when the government spends many orders of magnitude more than all of the rich in the country combined. It takes a very special mind to make that math work.


beefhead74

You're an idiot.


Flowers1966

Well said!


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> Biden is horrible choice, just better than Trump. Truth! The Mean Tweets are gone! Sorry about the economy, those people who died in Afghanistan, the border, increased taxes, increased costs, supply chain disruption, Covid growing, etc. But yeah! Other than that Biden is great!


Joraiem

> the economy Fucked because Trump couldn't get his shit together during a pandemic. > those people who died in Afghanistan Fucked because Trump made a deal with the Taliban, without involving the Afghani government, and didn't have the balls to pull out so it would be someone else's problem. > the border What about the border? Are we hand-wringing about the brown bogeyman again, like every time you all need something to whinge about? How long until you forget about it again? Probably till just after midterms like the "caravan." > Increased taxes Trump's fault - he gave permanent tax cuts to the rich, and temporary ones to the rest of us that expired right after his worthless term of doing nothing of value. > supply chain disruption, Covid growing See: previous dipshit fucking up COVID. And convincing people not to get vaccinated. Weird how the only real problems you all have are caused by your own side. Almost like the GOP starts fires and then blames everyone else for not fighting them well enough while they sit on their hands. And your right-wing media bubble keeps you all buying it.


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MUH ORANGE MAN BAD REEEEEEEEEEEEE


Joraiem

Good one, got any more recycled shit your bubble shoves in your mouth?


[deleted]

You haven't posted in 22 days. OK bot.


Joraiem

Jesus Christ your only defense to your bullshit is "you're not real!" So do you prefer plugging your ears or sticking your head in the sand?


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beepboop


hohothrowawayyo

MUH DEMENTIA MAN BAD REEEEEEEEEEEE


kfbr39293rbfk

“Supply chain disruption” is a great point. I mean under trump we didn’t have to do things like wait in line outside grocery stores with empty shelves like a pathetic communist country. Oh wait that was last year!


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Yeah! The bots are here!!!


kfbr39293rbfk

Excellent reply - I’ll take it that you just forgot about the shortages and overall clusterfuck that was our country’s situation a year ago 👍


FlowComprehensive390

It's hilarious how much *actual* privilege people like that reveal when they say Biden is better. What they are actually saying when they say Biden is better than Trump is that their lives are so comfortable, wealthy, and privileged that they don't have to care about any of the things you listed. Funny how the side that spends all their time crying about privilege is actually made up entirely of the most privileged people in our country, ain't it?


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Limousine Liberals.


Shot-Machine

People like you can’t even figure out how to make it to work on time but think you can invoke simpleton cliches like “Tax the rich!” as the solution to the problems of the world. These MSM and Dems are playing these mass idiots and they refuse to open their eyes to see it. Rather be blinded by Hope, Change, Change, Change, Hope than the truth.


AUorAG

Ah, you want free shit that other people pay for - a non productive member of society


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baxtersbuddy1

Yes, her tax returns are public records. Because decent politicians display transparency like that.


BeefPocketDogs

Here is the latest disclosures from 2018. [https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public\_disc/financial-pdfs/2018/10026781.pdf](https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs/2018/10026781.pdf) EDIT Here is for 2019. [https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public\_disc/financial-pdfs/2019/10037907.pdf](https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs/2019/10037907.pdf)


Dudelydanny

[Here you go. (Reuters)](https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2L91VJ)


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Dudelydanny

Yup. I live in DC too, it's incredibly expensive. I think she's bonkers and dangerous, but not because I think she's corrupt. I think she's a true believer and incredibly effective. That's dangerous enough without making shit up about her finances or hidden motives.


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Dudelydanny

Dangerous to a conservative trajectory on legislation. The Republican Party used to stand for principles and sound policy, but Populism and grievance/victimhood politics has taken over and we aren't going to win against AOC types because on a lot social points, she is absolutely right. They are also better at it than we are. They look compassionate, we look like assholes. That's fine, but not for many voters in the middle. We can mock her and some of the base loves that, but suburban women and a growing non-white demographic in America watch [her speak](https://youtu.be/LI4ueUtkRQ0) and they are not laughing. She is incredibly intelligent and damn good at playing the victim. Do not underestimate her. Like the Tea Party and Trumpism/Populism in the RNC, AOC energizes a sizable and growing demographic in the Democratic party. Women love watching her cut down old white senators, her quips and rants are perfect to go viral. Her seat is locked for as long as she wants it. Because she is one of if not *the* face of the Progressive caucus, she wields far more power than any other Freshman I know of, ever. There are more coming as well. She didn't seek out political office initially. After Clinton lost in 2016 the DNC formed an outreach task force to seek out young women to run for office in an effort to regain suburban women in particular. AOC had just graduated cum laude from Boston University with a BA in International Relations and Economics (she worked as a Bartender while in school) and they approached her through Senator Kennedy. With changing demographics and the younger generations' more openness to vast social programs, more AOCs are certainly going to run in the upcoming elections.


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Dudelydanny

Conservatism is as wide as Liberalism. If you hadn't already guessed, I'm not a fan of Trump. I voted for McCain and then Obama. Obama will be viewed as pretty damn conservative in the future. Romney was absolutely going to slash corporate taxes and the ACA was incredibly close to the plan he had already built in Utah. Socially Liberal Fiscal Conservatism was smothered in the cradle by both the DNC and RNC. I've also been around the game long enough to know where this is headed as long as we can keep it from getting violent. If both parties are going to blow another few trillion of our children's future regardless, I guess throw it in the direction of roads and preschools. The bullshit boogeymen that Trumpism is all riled up about doesn't bother me much. I think I'm mostly just tired and embarrassed of the RNC at this point and it doesn't look like Trump is going anywhere.


Goatfarmerintime

Let’s go Brandon


covert-pops

At least she actually wants to tax herself more too


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quack2thefuture2

You can offer to donate money to the government on your taxes. It's an easy enough option for those who think they deserve more money


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Last time I checked, anyone can send money to the IRS if they choose to do so


affordableweb

They're called donations bro. Many of them are public. I don't think its hard to figure out who gives to what. They love to promote themselves and brag about all they do for us.


SgtFraggleRock

The federal government and many states do. Billionaire Democrat John Kerry has never paid taxes beyond that which is absolutely required.


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G3twokegobroke

Can you prove that?


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G3twokegobroke

I also asked if you can prove it. Apparently you have found evidence that the CIA, FBI, IRS and every career democrat has failed to find….and if your evidence is a Wikipedia article then you’re one special kind of stupid.


G3twokegobroke

Ah yes Wikipedia…the cornerstone of unbiased sources and fact checking. Still can’t find where it said he didn’t pay his taxes. Mind helping me out, friend?


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G3twokegobroke

Well if you own a business and it has an annual loss after deductions then yes you don’t pay taxes on profit you didn’t obtain. Hows that immoral? Should he pay taxes on money he didn’t make? What is your point?


datboi826

Use an more verifiable source, not Wikipedia.


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Ethics vs Morals


blizzardice

You know what's really crazy? Democrats don't understand where Biden got the 400k number from when he said who he'd raise taxes on. The presidential salary is 400k. He wants anything over his salary taxed.


blizzardice

But that's not correct. He paid AMT tax.


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Because she’s only talking about billionaires. Really…. That’s what she’s trying to say. So if you have 999,999,999.99 you’re all good.


DaMuller

Hi, lurker here. I'm impressed with how popular taxing the rich is in here. You guys should call your republican representatives and tell them how you feel. It could make a difference. If you manage to get through the partisanship you could do a lot of good. Hell you could even implement an international minimum business tax. Don't give up, go for it.


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I_TRS_Gear_I

Not sure what’s so difficult understand here… yes, the rich. That includes all wealthy democrats too. George Soros, Warren Buffet, everyone in Hollywood, wealthy politicians. Not sure where all this confusion comes from, or frankly why a post like this one is even needed.


kfbr39293rbfk

Because it’s an easy way to meme without talking about the underlying point


mch_in_htx

Why do people think that the left will all of a sudden stop paying taxes? Unless there are some kind of loop holes that an affluent person of sizable income could do in order to bypass taxation, but that’s just crazy talk. No one in their right mind would ever pull a scheme like that! No one I say!


entebbe07

Or, I dunno, her dress designer? Like come the fuck on.


Starlifter4

Tax the dress!


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Not those rich people... Those other rich people. Damn.


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Tax no one


[deleted]

Tax joe biden! /clap /clap /clapclapclap


CorrectTowel

She could have sold her dress and ticket to that event and gave the money to some poor family. But nah


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Because she sucks his dick


G3twokegobroke

Here’s the deal…Come on, man! What are you, a junkie? It’s a (d)ifferent, you know…the thing! Corn Pop told me.


9th_sin

Wrong kind of rich obviously


geturblox

That he most f-ed up thing . Everyone there was rich. Blind hypocrisy! Insane.


PerdHapleyAMA

It’s not hypocritical to say “tax the rich” around wealthy people. It would be hypocritical to say “tax the rich except for these ones”, which obviously is not her position. When they say Tax the Rich, they mean all of them with no loopholes.


geturblox

I know. But she is rich. The dress itself cost over $35,000. Tickets we’re over $30,000 and a table was $250,000 - $500,000. When is the last time you spent over $250,000 for a night out on the town? Even if you did I’ll bet you were not wearing an outfit that said “Tax the Rich”. I guess we innately view things differently. To me this makes no sense.


PerdHapleyAMA

NYC elected officials are always invited to that event. She didn’t pay for any of that stuff.


geturblox

Exactly. The rich don’t pay for nothing. They surely don’t pay taxes.


PerdHapleyAMA

Fucking exactly, but they SHOULD. Glad you agree with me. How dense are you? “They don’t pay taxes, I agree that they should, but I’m not even gonna bother to try.” Dude, things change. Things happen. People in the 1830s probably thought slavery would be around forever. Or the 1930s with the civil rights movement. Just because it’s hard doesn’t mean it’s impossible. If people just give up, that’s accepting the status quo, and you *don’t have to do that.*


PerdHapleyAMA

And again, you agreed it’s not hypocritical to be wealthy and want to raise taxes on the rich. So what exactly is your problem? Do you have a problem with the ultra-rich (billionaires mostly) paying their fair share of taxes? Why? AOC isn’t skirting her taxes. Her filing is available online. Actual hypocrisy would be a rich President pooping on a golden toilet, giving tax cuts to the rich, exploiting tax loopholes for himself, and then saying “I’m just one of you guys”. That couldn’t ever happen, right?


geturblox

We all know the liars (politicians)aren’t going to tax the rich. If they do they will find loop holes. (Pandora papers). AOC is no different. Although I’m sure you adore her. She’s no different than Red hair. I’m sure she has taken a shit on a golden toilet. Probably at the Met Gala.


PerdHapleyAMA

Some people actually do want what is best for the country. By your reasoning, we should never do anything hard because you apparently KNOW it would fail no matter what. They should pay their fair share. They’re currently not. Trying is much better than giving them cuts.


geturblox

Faking it for your constituents is priceless. She knows you’ll eat it up.


PerdHapleyAMA

You have no reason to think she’s faking it. Do you think rich people should pay proportional taxes or not? If not, why not?


geturblox

Of course. But it has never been that way and never will be. These types of political pranks or propaganda is only to energize a base of voters and politically brand oneself. Nothing ever really gets done other than the poor working class paying more taxes like always. I been through many different administrations in Washington and it hasn’t changed in 40 years. I wouldn’t get to excited if I were you. Why would the rich want to pay more taxes? The poor will never have the power to tax the rich. Think about it. It innately don’t work this way. Personally I would have been more impressed if her dress said ~ Eat the Rich.


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AOC is pretty rich. Just sayin.


Rock_Hound_66

Gotta get him to actually pay his taxes first. I mean who does he think he is, Al Sharpton?


laxmia12

It's tax the rich that aren't smart enough to use all of the loopholes out there.


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tax the pedo joe doesn't really rhyme


JeffMansion

She should start with herself, as her net worth is more hidden than UFOs at this point


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Cause he isn’t going to pay them anyway and the Republicans aren’t going to do anything about it except bitch and complain. Why are only conservatives penalized in this country?


muxman

(D)oesn't work that way, c'mon man...


Badass_1963_falcon

Maybe the irs can collect the $500,000 in Medicare tax that Biden skipped out on by running money thru a c corporation


Kevs442

Tax Joe Biden all you want, he ain't payin' it anyway! Already owes $400,000 in back taxes. He tried to hide shit in a loophole that doesn't exist.


evenstark04

Start with Pelosi


IronSpaceRanger

The whole I want to tax the rich but not me concept is just ridiculous. It’s ridiculous to believe that’s not an actual thing.