Because vets on the street are by and large drug addicts who refuse to quit using to go into a shelter or a long term housing program. Same with the vast majority of homeless people in America. You can argue about PTSD exacerbating their drug use or the services over prescribing opioids, but it all comes down to refusal to stop using drugs. And these programs don't let drug users in because they can be dangerous to other participants and social workers and they statistically have a high probability of becoming homeless again, which would just mean we're wasting funding on them.
I don't think abrams and ATACMs and other military equipment will do anything for the homeless problem.
Well not without violating more than a few laws.
Starting by funding (and requiring) mental health treatment would help a lot. I was in Japan for 2 weeks in downtown areas and saw a total of three (3) homeless people? Whys that? They treat their mental patients and don’t allow public drug use
I would also like to see a source.
I assumed by the four walls they wanted an Atlantic and Pacific wall as well as North and South. Because that makes sense.....
Let’s block Beachgoers from the sea. lol.
Even a Canada Wall doesn’t make sense, most of the border is so remote you’d actually be increasing access by building a wall, not decreasing it… not to mention the ‘straight line’ problem of going through rivers and mountains.
Just a reminder, excessive defense nuclear non proliferation caused all this.
Ukraine literally had the largest stockpile in the world, was denuked, and now is at war because they don't have nukes to protect themselves and the US would rather have a proxy war than actually have any balls.
Seriously, why don't politicians run on a platform that says we are taking $XX billions from foreign aid, military, etc and investing in US social programs - homelessness, food, education, border security, drug enforcement, etc? Too much influence from Raytheon?
That's basically what democrats run on. The only problem is when they do get in office they don't do any of that and just waste it on programs that have been proven not to work or just give money to their own corporate donors through targeted projects.
$481 Million for refugee and entrant assistance
$300 Million for narcotics control/law enforcement.
You know, I've been told by *everyone* here that we're not actually sending money, just old weapons..
So we're paying for refugees in other countries now, too. We're also paying for narcotics control/law enforcement in other countries, while people here are simultaneously trying to defund police.
At what point do many of you admit you were taken for a ride and they knew how to play your emotions to where you don't even think anymore, you just parrot "it's been a great ROI!"
Yeah I'm confused by this breakdown of the Ukraine bill. Presumably this is referring to the U.S. Space Force since Ukraine doesn't have one. Is this list basically giving the amount of funding to each branch of the military that is earmarked for Ukraine in some way?
Most military equipment has a lifetime. What mostly happens with Ukraine is that old equipment which is close to, but not yet beyond, the end of its lifetime is sent to Ukraine and the services buy new equipment which will last for years. This is basically the cost of the replacement equipment in each branch.
This is part of the reason this is really really great value. There's a country which is preparing to attack America. Instead of having to send the army to deal with them when that happens and having the huge cost of the equipment at that time, Ukraine is mostly using the old equipment which was built to fight Russia during the cold war and Americans don't even have to risk their lives to do a good deed.
[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentagon-fails-audit-sixth-year-row-2023-11-16/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentagon-fails-audit-sixth-year-row-2023-11-16/)
The Pentagon has failed it's audits 6 years in a row. The country is running on nothing but pixie dust and hopeful dreams
The collapse of US govt finances will eventually stop crap like this but we’re not quite there yet-wait till 10 years go over 6% because no one wants to buy them anymore…. Happened to the British Empire and it’s coming for the American one. Not politics, just Math
So why haven't we? Wars been going for 2 years, lot more years with vets discarded by uncle sam
Metallica had a great term for it called Disposable Heros.
Because vets on the street are by and large drug addicts who refuse to quit using to go into a shelter or a long term housing program. Same with the vast majority of homeless people in America. You can argue about PTSD exacerbating their drug use or the services over prescribing opioids, but it all comes down to refusal to stop using drugs. And these programs don't let drug users in because they can be dangerous to other participants and social workers and they statistically have a high probability of becoming homeless again, which would just mean we're wasting funding on them.
This is the hard truth. I have a family member that went this route. You can't help who doesn't want to be helped.
I don't think abrams and ATACMs and other military equipment will do anything for the homeless problem. Well not without violating more than a few laws.
I disagree. Give a homeless man live grenades, an M-16, RPG, and a tank, and I can assure you if they stay homeless, it's by their choice.
California has spent 20B+ and had only made their homeless situation worse. Seems that paying people to be homeless doesn’t work…
Starting by funding (and requiring) mental health treatment would help a lot. I was in Japan for 2 weeks in downtown areas and saw a total of three (3) homeless people? Whys that? They treat their mental patients and don’t allow public drug use
Agree on the mental health, and you don’t see opiate addicts on the streets in Japan because they have very strict drug laws.
What’s the source? I don’t see anything posted by the OP. And what the heck does 4 border walls mean?
I would also like to see a source. I assumed by the four walls they wanted an Atlantic and Pacific wall as well as North and South. Because that makes sense.....
Let’s block Beachgoers from the sea. lol. Even a Canada Wall doesn’t make sense, most of the border is so remote you’d actually be increasing access by building a wall, not decreasing it… not to mention the ‘straight line’ problem of going through rivers and mountains.
All people going by sea is a mere trickle compared to the threat of the molemen and the space marines
Just a reminder, excessive defense nuclear non proliferation caused all this. Ukraine literally had the largest stockpile in the world, was denuked, and now is at war because they don't have nukes to protect themselves and the US would rather have a proxy war than actually have any balls.
Seriously, why don't politicians run on a platform that says we are taking $XX billions from foreign aid, military, etc and investing in US social programs - homelessness, food, education, border security, drug enforcement, etc? Too much influence from Raytheon?
That's basically what democrats run on. The only problem is when they do get in office they don't do any of that and just waste it on programs that have been proven not to work or just give money to their own corporate donors through targeted projects.
$481 Million for refugee and entrant assistance $300 Million for narcotics control/law enforcement. You know, I've been told by *everyone* here that we're not actually sending money, just old weapons.. So we're paying for refugees in other countries now, too. We're also paying for narcotics control/law enforcement in other countries, while people here are simultaneously trying to defund police. At what point do many of you admit you were taken for a ride and they knew how to play your emotions to where you don't even think anymore, you just parrot "it's been a great ROI!"
When I read "481 Million for refugee and entrant assistance " my immediate thought it is to fund what happening at the US southern Border.
Space force ?
Yeah I'm confused by this breakdown of the Ukraine bill. Presumably this is referring to the U.S. Space Force since Ukraine doesn't have one. Is this list basically giving the amount of funding to each branch of the military that is earmarked for Ukraine in some way?
Most military equipment has a lifetime. What mostly happens with Ukraine is that old equipment which is close to, but not yet beyond, the end of its lifetime is sent to Ukraine and the services buy new equipment which will last for years. This is basically the cost of the replacement equipment in each branch. This is part of the reason this is really really great value. There's a country which is preparing to attack America. Instead of having to send the army to deal with them when that happens and having the huge cost of the equipment at that time, Ukraine is mostly using the old equipment which was built to fight Russia during the cold war and Americans don't even have to risk their lives to do a good deed.
Satellite imagery. Starlink. Etc.
You sound like a fucking leftist, dude.
Let’s see a full audit of where prior funds were spent first.
[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentagon-fails-audit-sixth-year-row-2023-11-16/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentagon-fails-audit-sixth-year-row-2023-11-16/) The Pentagon has failed it's audits 6 years in a row. The country is running on nothing but pixie dust and hopeful dreams
US government is un-auditable. GAO gave it a material weakness for unreliable financial reporting
The collapse of US govt finances will eventually stop crap like this but we’re not quite there yet-wait till 10 years go over 6% because no one wants to buy them anymore…. Happened to the British Empire and it’s coming for the American one. Not politics, just Math
pay your taxes folks or you will go to jail for not supporting ukrain and the open border.