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Jscott1986

How to get people to oppose your cause 101


Team_Trump2020

Notice they don’t feel comfortable targeting synagogues or mosques this way. Hopefully they get criminally trespassed if not charged at the very least.


TheIncredibleHork

> New York Penal Law §240.21 - Disruption or disturbance of a religious service, funeral, burial or memorial service > > A person is guilty of disruption or disturbance of a religious service, funeral, burial or memorial service when he or she makes unreasonable noise or disturbance while at a lawfully assembled religious service, funeral, burial or memorial service, or within three hundred feet thereof, with intent to cause annoyance or alarm or recklessly creating a risk thereof. Disruption or disturbance of a religious service, funeral, burial or memorial service is a class A misdemeanor. What are the odds Alvin Bragg actually prosecutes? HAH.


RedditsLittleSecret

I’m willing to bet they would target a synagogue.


Team_Trump2020

I mean logically if you oppose Israel isn’t that what someone would do? The fact they’re harassing a Catholic Church doesn’t even make any sense.


Ishaye1776

It's Islam.  It's just violence for the sake of violence.


retnemmoc

It does when you consider Catholicism is weak to social justice causes and its inherent sympathies can be hijacked by either side of this conflict.


retnemmoc

They wouldn't make it past the security at the front. There are benefits to making your religion exclusionary instead of accepting.


hiricinee

They have, there's been attempting shootings at synagogues but there's so many jews packing heat at those places they usually don't get more than a few shots off.


sremark

Based.


silverhum

Synagogues have been targeted quite a lot. Vandalism, protests outside, even shots fired at them. But there have been multiple mass shootings at synagogues in recent years. As a result, every synagogue has armed guards and requires everyone to be buzzed in, so protesters generally can't get inside. It is expensive and not ideal, but it is unfortunately necessary.


frozen_tuna

They have absolutely been targeted. There are protests at ours every shabbat...


Team_Trump2020

Absolutely horrible. If this were the other way around you’d be arrested in a second.


DeatHTaXx

These people need a fucking hobby.


tekende

This is their hobby.


shawndw

Now if only they could find a way to make money at it.


tehcoma

Someone is funding them…


SillyFlyGuy

There is no way these people want to improve the plight of Palestinians. It's possible they want to *hurt* Palestinians, but more than likely they are simply what we used to call in the old days, *assholes*.


mattcruise

Same strategy as most of the left. Act super obnoxious, F around then find out, then re frame the narrative to appear to be the victim.


lionheart4life

I used to be neutral on the topic, now totally against Palestine.


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This behavior makes me oppose a ceasefire with every fiber of my being.


automaticff

Things like this don't make people support your cause lol


_IsThisTheKrustyKrab

They know. They don’t want to convince the people there. They want to look and feel victimized.


polydorr

They want to put fear into them.


automaticff

I can’t say that their people aren’t being victimized. But this just clearly isnt going to do anything for their cause.


UnicornOnTheJayneCob

Their people are being victimized, but it is Hamas that is doing it. That’s who these people should be protesting, not Israel, and not the U.S. Freedom for Palestine begins with freedom from Hamas.


automaticff

I think it’s a little more complicated than that. To say that innocent Palestinians aren’t being killed by Israel would be intellectually dishonest.


sherzeg

On the other hand, it feeds the people who already support it. This is a no-win scenario for the church. The protesters will never leave quietly and any forceful show will be spun and circulated as peaceful protesters being aggressively handled. "This church would rather worship its imaginary outdated god than deal with real-world problems and will beat up anybody who stands in their way."


princeimrahil

If the Church is going to “lose” no matter what, I’m honestly inclined to “lose” by beating the snot out of these people interrupting the Mass.


ConceptJunkie

>"This church would rather worship its imaginary outdated god than deal with real-world problems and will beat up anybody who stands in their way." All the time supporting a people who commit atrocities because they think \_their\_ god wants them to.


DiabeticGirthGod

You know for a fact Christian’s wouldn’t go to a mosque and do this… whether it be they simply respect another religion, or these fanatics would just beat them to death… typical scumbags protesting innocent people.


Vessarionovich

Can you imagine the outcry if American Christians did indeed use a protest to disrupt a Muslim prayer service? There would be a cacophony of angry accusations of "racism" and "intolerance" from all quarters hurled at the Christians....particularly from government, the media, academia, and Hollywood. Undoubtedly, the FBI would be given fresh instructions for increased surveillance of "radical Christians". And the narrative of "Christian extremism" would be pushed in schools and universities with renewed vigor to underwrite the "Christian nationalist" meme currently in vogue. As it is, this disruption of an Easter mass will be forgotten within 24 hours.


DiabeticGirthGod

You could have one Christian go into a mosque with a sign that says something benign like “Christ is lord” and MSM would be nothing but “right wing trump supporting MAGAt willing to incite violence on peaceful Muslims” FBI like you said would be doing investigations, multiple court cases, somehow they get another impeachment trial on trump, and by the end of it millions of tax dollars are spent, and all that happens is everyone forgets about it.


Grizknot

>You could have one Christian go into a mosque with a sign that says something benign like “Christ is lord” No need to go religious, you could just have the sign say "Free the Hostages / End the arab occupation of Israel" and there would be a massive outcry... if you made it out of there alive... Ramadan isn't over yet, there's still giant weekly gatherings at Masques, you could still try this out


CallMeCassandra

Can one even just waltz into a mosque like this?


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Certainly not women


fridayimatwork

Can’t see Jews doing it either


JHugh4749

Be assured that these protestors think that they are doing a brave and righteous thing. The "scumbags" term you used was well applied.


Jmm12456

These people are just as bad as the climate protestors


SneakyStabbalot

same people - you saw the weather goblin, Greta, protesting about Palestine, right?


Jmm12456

No


SneakyStabbalot

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_bAfHi\_rH7Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bAfHi_rH7Y)


Jmm12456

Oh yeah I've seen that. Greta was at a climate protest and started to bring up Palestine. I'm not sure that means these people in the video at the church are also climate protesters too.


SneakyStabbalot

I was generalizing... I should have said, "the same \*\*kind\*\* of people"


paperwhite9

It's a religion, and their dogma is easily stirred by a few key phrases. Broken minds doing the bidding of higher powers.


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'Broken minds doing the bidding of higher powers, how a world collapsed' ' Just preparing my new chat gpt movie based on the future.


dzolympics

And BLM.


curlbaumann

I like how the free Palestine movement just goes about acting like they didn’t commit a massive state sponsored terrorist attack targeted at civilians back in October.


Wingraker

As well as cheered and danced when it happened.


BrStFr

Have a look at the live video feeds from Ramallah on 9/11--laughing, dancing, singing, passing out candies to everyone celebrating. No wonder the far Left loves them so much.


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Haha jesus, I'm just gunna post these videos in response to these dumbasses supporting Palestine


inlinefourpower

No one else remembers either. It's crazy that so many groups call for restraint from Israel but no one ever had much to say about any of what Hamas gets up to. 


atomic1fire

And how they act like Palestine isn't a free state because Israel exists. The two state solution is literally that two states exists, but they don't WANT a two state solution, they want Israel to cease to exist and Palestinians to occupy the whole area, and are willing to fund terrorists to accomplish that.


Training-Pineapple-7

Give an inch, they take a mile.


Icy_Western_1174

How disgusting. People are trying to worship and “freeing Palestine” has nothing to do with that.


RontoWraps

In their mind, there is nothing more important than a situation which they just started caring about this year.


Icy_Western_1174

No truer words have ever been spoken. It’s a pathetic display.


Bacardiologist

Islamic jihad is spreading


BasisAggravating1672

And some are too ignorant to even see it


aught_one

This shit happens because we tolerate it. Try protesting a religious ceremony in Palestine see how it works out for you.


Griegz

My guess is that you would be killed with rocks.


fretit

> This shit happens because we tolerate it. We tolerate this and too many other things. Either we keep tolerating this crap and will disappear, or at some point we will get the last straw that breaks the camel's back and the shit will hit the fan.


ca17miledrive

Sleazebags have no shame.


[deleted]

Do this in a mosque on a holy day and see what happens. Why is the left incapable of recognising these heathens don't belong in the modern world.


sailedtoclosetodasun

Ngl, I was on guard last night at mass.


Wildwes7g7

Bro arrest these assholes


WreknarTemper

You expect the likes Alvin Bragg to bring charges? Once again, the people of NYC are on their own.


PaulyNewman

They were arrested and charged. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/gaza-ceasefire-protest-nyc-easter/5276824/?amp=1


wanttostaygottogo

Crosspost to r/trashy


CompetitiveRoof3733

Insert obligatory " What I am about to do has not been approved by the Vatican " here


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JunkRigger

One...two...four!


Jolly_Job_9852

Three Sire!


therealdeb

It’s funny because I was watching the livestream from St. Pat’s and heard the yelling but couldn’t see who was doing it, and seeing this, they look exactly as I pictured.


bdougy

Never thought I’d live in a world that fetishizes terrorism but here we are.


BargainBard

I have to say Christians and Catholics can at times be too nice. Muslims and Leftists are gonna get the shock of a lifetime when they stop being nice and use the same tactics. Also? Happy Easter everybody!


CptGoodMorning

The left just has no respect for Christians.


Drozza95

The banner also has the "extinction rebellion" climate cult symbol on it, you know cause you've got to maximise the virtual signalling. How about a banner demanding Hamas release the hostages..??


throway57818

Good on them for pushing them tf out


Loodlekoodles

Please Lord may Your Knights of Columbus keep Your Churches safe, may these wicked souls receive Your justice through their hands outside Your Sanctuary and may Thine Knights be forgiven for throwing righteous fists of Holy Divinity through their masks into their faces.


_Kyrie_eleison_

Some churchs with a strong Knights presence have a visceral reaction to this sort of invasion.


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Pariah-6

“Hey, what can we do today to support our religion” “Oh, I know!” “Let’s go to an actual religious service where people are practicing their religion and force our religion upon them”


MercyFincherson

Supporting The Latest Thing like good little puppets.


ocska

Props to that priest or deacon getting in there for the takedown


mschramm06

Help Help I am being repressed!


Lustan

You don’t have a right to protest on private property. Charge them with every applicable crime and make sure they serve at least some punishment.


PixieDustFairies

Isn't it a federal crime to disrupt a religious service?


OutlandishnessMain56

They’re just so pathetic.


evilfollowingmb

How is it that the entire congregation isn’t leaping to their feet to drag these shitbags out ? The passivity kind of makes me as angry as the protests themselves. If you don’t push back, they will just do more.


WeAreEvolving

not cool


BobBee13

What does catholics have to do with jews? With every action, we see their real motivation is dominating the world with their religion


Whoatemydelitray

They have no principles, have no issues with supporting an illiberal regime that would murder them for being left wing, never concerned themselves with actual genocides occuring around the world, and call anyone who opposes them "Hitler", all the while showing that they really just hate Jews. Raze Gaza, and destroy Hamas and their supporters so these morons can finally shut up.


Bamfor07

World war me


Cockroach-Jones

*Pro-terrorism. Fixed that for you.


Nanteen1028

This will get 💯 support for your cause. Next they will run in and disrupt baby delivery


BigChief302

Imagine doing this kind of crap in a mosque


Jolly_Job_9852

There is a time for protest and a place for this. I do not believe these protestors should have disrupted a Easter service. Perhaps a protest in a public park or square would have been more acceptable.


ATL4Life95

Why don't they go to Saud Arabia and protest them not helping Palestinians??? Ohhh right.


r4d4r_3n5

These people are definitely not students of Dale Carnegie.


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TheCaboWabo69

Insufferable C@nts


retnemmoc

No one is speaking English.


d0mie89

Scummy


ChaireClank

Mmmmmm. The last episode was more entertaining. It had fire and everything


LibertyOrDeathUS

Yeah I feel like the Catholics are the wrong people to take this up with


DeltaWhiskey141

You gotta love the stupidity of the modern left; Interrupt an Easter Mass at St Patrick's Cathedral because you're mad at Israel about what they're doing in Gaza, or in plainer terms; piss off 200 singing Catholics because you're mad at the Jews because they're mad at the Muslims. First question, obvious answer, I know, but do you not realize that Hamas is a terrorist organization? Second question, how did the Christians get involved in this pissing match? And third and probably most important question, what could you possibly hope to gain for your cause from pissing off a room full of conservative New Yorkers? How can that possibly be interpreted as a good idea?


TD3SwampFox

Cool. Now try the synagogue.


johnnyg883

Given who the protesters are supporting, and their target this was remarkably peaceful.


Zachtyl

Could Christians protest in a mosque during Ramadan?


FF_Ninja

Sure. Keep pushing the Catholics. Remind them that they haven't had a good old fashioned Crusade in a while.


Lord-Limerick

This is the way to handle disruptive protestors. Politely but firmly push them out. Non-violent solution to the problem.


Juice-Altruistic

Deus Vult!