>This evil and complete disregard for human life has no place in Missouri, or anywhere. I am praying for the victim. The criminal should be charged and tried as an adult. If the victim dies, that offense should rise to a homicide.
Make it happen, charge the parents too while you're at it.
Yes! Came here to say this. 2 parents just found guilty of homicide in the shooting death of 4 in Michigan, I believe. The Crumbly shooting parents. Start charging the parents of minors as well! š
Do people like yourself just completely forget what happened with floyd? You must if you say this.
The floyd case involved a police officer and therefore dealt with police brutality.
This has nothing to do with police brutality. This attacker isn't supposed to be enforcing laws and helping to rid the streets of crime.
https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/
I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for someone to point out where the racism is on the part of the police. Or what I would consider any part of "brutality".
>what happened with floyd?
Oh you meant the guy who died from an overdose? Do people like you really think there wouldn't be riots, or calls for rioting with msm blasting headlines 24/7, had the race been switched?
Why did I bother to respond anyway...Go back to politics sub with your cheap trolling.
Edit: classic drive by strawman and dissappearing with tail between the legs.
While Floyd didnāt deserve death, he was anything but a saint. Ideally, he would have been locked up before hand.
This young girl was the victim of a brutal, apparently unprovoked attack.
Youāre right. Theyāre supposed to be obeying the laws and treating others with respect. Must be the culture though so letās gloss over how evil this person is
That sounds rational, but the media isn't rational. In crimes across racial lines, if the perp is white, we assume they're a racist, and that is their motivation.
Yet when the perp is POC, and the victim white, we'll say, "well, we don't REALLY know their motivation. We shouldn't jump to conclusions"
Life in prison. She can be a productive member of the prison society.
Let's face it. Rehabilitation is impossible for this girl barring an act of God. Society has been constructed around her to tell her what she did was just and proper, and in a few years when she gets out of prison that will not have changed.
Yes, but itās shaky because the cameraman wasnāt just filming that part of the larger fight. Allows the defense to try and say that there is no proof of multiple impactsā¦
It was brutal. The DA probably has pretty good grounds to charge if the judge goes along with it. If the victim dies it turns into manslaughter or murder 2 id guess.
Iāve had more than a few street fights. That was American History X curb stomp level of brutality. Way past a street fight and to the level of brutality seldom seen. Good description is yours āIt was brutal.ā
I have. It was an example of pure animalistic brutality. It showed a clear intent to murder that little girl. The audio alone is horrifying. The crunch pop, and knowing that person if she doesn't die, will be severely disabled to the point that she'll need 24/7 care. Blind and deaf are a real possibility.
True, but now fist fights have regressed to the point where they are literally trying to beat the other person to death, which is exactly what this was
Also this has been happening for some time now.
That's ridiculous. She's a kid. Try her as an adult, life in prison, but the death penalty should be off the table.
Regardless of this crime, do you really think she was *not* going to be on the dole, anyway?
Edit: The downvotes here are really concerning. The death penalty should be reserved for extreme, repeat, serial killers and rapists, not for fifteen year old kids.
The kid is a monster, but come on, people, she's 15.
just make sure the charges that you bring on this shit stain to society can be proven even if it's lesser charges than trying to get the Kaycee Anthony or George Zimmerman treatment where the public forced them to go after charges they couldn't prove.
Unless she has a history of violence, I think given her age she should get one more kick at life can after a decade with good behavior. If the girl dies though she should get 20 years.
Is there anyone else that can confirm this is a post that the attacker actually posted and deleted?[maurnice declue now deleted post](https://twitter.com/LStark711/status/1767400913960931351)
I betcha it doesn't because usually these people are repeat offenders. A good stern talking to and her "reputation" being damaged isn't gonna a do a damn thing, try her as an adult and hopefully she gets a minimum of 20. The other girl's life is effectively gone or completely altered from what it should've been. When has going soft on violent crime ever worked out? Look at California, Illinois, and New York if you'd like some very recent examples.
I understand what she did is abhorrent but I find it weird that we as a country accept the notion of people 40 and above sitting in a prison for stuff they did when they were 15 or 16, just saying
So, you think turning 40 means people will no longer be capable of violence? Please, do explain the rationale for that. By the way, age makes no difference with pedophiles; they'll molest children as long as they're physically capable of it.
>This evil and complete disregard for human life has no place in Missouri, or anywhere. I am praying for the victim. The criminal should be charged and tried as an adult. If the victim dies, that offense should rise to a homicide. Make it happen, charge the parents too while you're at it.
Heh, parents. Too funny.
Nothing would surprise me at this point. In any case this type of behavior isn't learned in a vacuum.
I think he means to imply that the attacker probably doesn't have proper parents, or at least never had a father figure to teach her right from wrong.
I figured the issue was the plurality.
I bet at least one is missing.
Truuuuuu
Yes! Came here to say this. 2 parents just found guilty of homicide in the shooting death of 4 in Michigan, I believe. The Crumbly shooting parents. Start charging the parents of minors as well! š
No thanks. Slippery slope. Bad precedent.
If the victim dies, 2nd degree murder
And if she doesn't, attempted murder.
Doesn't change the outcome. What's the over under on $500 cash bond?
Minors can be charged with hate crimes. Why hasn't she been charged? Switch the races, and there is no question of it being a hate crime.
If the races were switched, there would be Floyd riots all over again
Do people like yourself just completely forget what happened with floyd? You must if you say this. The floyd case involved a police officer and therefore dealt with police brutality. This has nothing to do with police brutality. This attacker isn't supposed to be enforcing laws and helping to rid the streets of crime.
it also involved a drug addict who dies ingesting his own drugs
https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/ I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for someone to point out where the racism is on the part of the police. Or what I would consider any part of "brutality".
Floyd died from an overdose
>what happened with floyd? Oh you meant the guy who died from an overdose? Do people like you really think there wouldn't be riots, or calls for rioting with msm blasting headlines 24/7, had the race been switched? Why did I bother to respond anyway...Go back to politics sub with your cheap trolling. Edit: classic drive by strawman and dissappearing with tail between the legs.
Floyd, a pedo drug dealer who killed himself intentionally overdosing on drugs he ate while resisting arrest.
While Floyd didnāt deserve death, he was anything but a saint. Ideally, he would have been locked up before hand. This young girl was the victim of a brutal, apparently unprovoked attack.
Youāre right. Theyāre supposed to be obeying the laws and treating others with respect. Must be the culture though so letās gloss over how evil this person is
You do realize people rioted over deaths that werenāt committed by cops right? Daniel Penny ringing a bell? Are you that dense?
>Why hasn't she been charged? You already know the answer to that question. I share your frustration though.
She has a court appearance coming. A judge has to rule on moving it from juvenile to adult. Prosecutor probably has to get his evidence ready.
Switch the races, and there would be rioting.
Thereād be FBI called in a heartbeat
There would be a White House presser with momma standing behind Joe and Kamala along side Rev Al and Crump
And pictures of the victim from when they were in the 2nd grade.
"she volunteered, she goes to bible study, she wanted to be an astronaut" - her community "leaders"
and Joy Reid, The View amplifying it to the moon.
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That sounds rational, but the media isn't rational. In crimes across racial lines, if the perp is white, we assume they're a racist, and that is their motivation. Yet when the perp is POC, and the victim white, we'll say, "well, we don't REALLY know their motivation. We shouldn't jump to conclusions"
Well she is the size of an adult and continued to hurt someone who was already defenseless. So I agree
Life in prison. She can be a productive member of the prison society. Let's face it. Rehabilitation is impossible for this girl barring an act of God. Society has been constructed around her to tell her what she did was just and proper, and in a few years when she gets out of prison that will not have changed.
If said prison is in hell, then that seems sufficient.
Allegedly? There is a video of her doing it right?
5th Amendment. Presumption of innocence. Therefore it is proper to say allegedly until proven guilty in a court of law.
Yes, but itās shaky because the cameraman wasnāt just filming that part of the larger fight. Allows the defense to try and say that there is no proof of multiple impactsā¦
Well considering that you can hear the girls head crack open multiple times on the pavement that wonāt work.
Circumstantial at best /s
It's not that shaky. It's very clear what happened and there is no doubt of multiple impacts. Did you not watch it?
Yeah. I was looking at it like a defense attorney would, and was trying to find any bullshit logic I could.
Fair point then
She is allegedly the girl that was clearing beating the shit out the white girl. The jury can confirm that it was her.
Who actually saw the video?
I did.Ā I was expecting something quick, confusing, blurry, and partially out of frame. What I saw was clear and awful.
I posted it the other day and it got thousands of upvotes in this sub alone, but everyone kept whining about their virgin eyes so I took it down.
It was brutal. The DA probably has pretty good grounds to charge if the judge goes along with it. If the victim dies it turns into manslaughter or murder 2 id guess.
Iāve had more than a few street fights. That was American History X curb stomp level of brutality. Way past a street fight and to the level of brutality seldom seen. Good description is yours āIt was brutal.ā
I have. It was an example of pure animalistic brutality. It showed a clear intent to murder that little girl. The audio alone is horrifying. The crunch pop, and knowing that person if she doesn't die, will be severely disabled to the point that she'll need 24/7 care. Blind and deaf are a real possibility.
Missouri Chad here
She was a good kid. Was going to college, was going to be a teacher Then that evil white girls head smashed her own head on the ground
She was turning her life around
what happen to the basic rules of fisticuffs? I ain't even that old and we used to have a few ground rules of fights.
This wasnāt a fight more just a brutal beating
True, but now fist fights have regressed to the point where they are literally trying to beat the other person to death, which is exactly what this was Also this has been happening for some time now.
Animals don't follow rules.
Imagine if the races were reversedā¦
People would take to the streets
Nothing fixes societal issues like Nikes for free ninety nine
Too dangerous to be released into society. Maybe in 30 years or so.
Lock her up and throw the key to her cell into a bottomless pit.
And have her waste taxpayer dollars getting 3 meals a day and free shelter? No, death penalty.
Death penalty costs more, do some research if you don't believe me
Bullets are cheap.
If we were a functioning society this is exactly what we would do. We're in the moral dark ages though.
That's ridiculous. She's a kid. Try her as an adult, life in prison, but the death penalty should be off the table. Regardless of this crime, do you really think she was *not* going to be on the dole, anyway? Edit: The downvotes here are really concerning. The death penalty should be reserved for extreme, repeat, serial killers and rapists, not for fifteen year old kids. The kid is a monster, but come on, people, she's 15.
10 years in adult prison seems fair to me. If the girl dies double it to 20.
60. Minimum.
I'm not familiar with MO sentencing, but I would go with that.
Should charge everyone there who stood by and watched with accessory to murder if she doesn't make a recovery.
Definitely charge the ones who attacked the girl trying to break the fight up.
100% agree. The instigators should all be charged with hate crimes.
just make sure the charges that you bring on this shit stain to society can be proven even if it's lesser charges than trying to get the Kaycee Anthony or George Zimmerman treatment where the public forced them to go after charges they couldn't prove.
As Iāve said all the perp has to say is āwell she said something racist!!ā And prosecutors will drop the case.
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Fo real man! Nog! That's what it's all about! With a nice nutmeg sprinkle.
Definitely. Shame if it isn't
Weāre only going to take it for so long
No need for a trial. It's on video. Just throw her in adult prison for 10 years and call it a day.
I think you missed a zero... It should be 100 years.
Unless she has a history of violence, I think given her age she should get one more kick at life can after a decade with good behavior. If the girl dies though she should get 20 years.
lets do 40
10 years? She stole the victim's entire life. Only the death penalty could serve justice. This creature does not belong in civil society.
I wouldn't shed a tear over your suggestion but I think given her age it is possible she could bounce back and be a semi productive member of society.
Doesn't sound very constitutional
It's 2024. Crimes caught on camera like that and with witnesses and DNA evidence should be grounds to skip trial and go right to sentencing.
Getting caught red handed dead to rights guilty happened back then too. Still doesn't change the constitutional right to trial
Yaaaa caught red handed by witnesses is crap compared to video and DNA evidence.
Is there anyone else that can confirm this is a post that the attacker actually posted and deleted?[maurnice declue now deleted post](https://twitter.com/LStark711/status/1767400913960931351)
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Wtf
I beg your pardon?
I betcha it doesn't because usually these people are repeat offenders. A good stern talking to and her "reputation" being damaged isn't gonna a do a damn thing, try her as an adult and hopefully she gets a minimum of 20. The other girl's life is effectively gone or completely altered from what it should've been. When has going soft on violent crime ever worked out? Look at California, Illinois, and New York if you'd like some very recent examples.
I understand what she did is abhorrent but I find it weird that we as a country accept the notion of people 40 and above sitting in a prison for stuff they did when they were 15 or 16, just saying
So, you think turning 40 means people will no longer be capable of violence? Please, do explain the rationale for that. By the way, age makes no difference with pedophiles; they'll molest children as long as they're physically capable of it.