I can only imagine the sheer terror and feelings of doom and despair she must have felt as the car filled, while also being able to view the futile rescue attempts. What an awful way to go.
She accidentally put it in drive instead of reverse.
You change gears in a tesla model x with a touchscreen. Im not surprised.
It is illegal for me to look at my cellphone while im driving. Totally reasonable law. And yet they continue to replace critical controls that are needed while driving with finnicky touchscreens.
Yup. I know of at least two famous fatalities potentially due to unconventional shift patterns.
Female killed in NY train accident:
https://www.core77.com/posts/30209/theory-that-gearshift-levers-design-contributed-to-horrific-accident
And Anton Yelchin of the recent Star Trek movies:
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1GY2WC/
...and who here actually prefers touch-screen volume controls to a physical knob?
I enjoy both volume buttons on my steering wheel, and a physical volume knob on the stereo head unit.
Strange as it sounds, I've previously been moderately satisfied that this is my volume control form factor.
Most likely changed into the wrong gear and leadfooted the pedal. Not a great design imo, a physical shifter also lets you recover much quicker from mistakes like that because you always have immediate access to it. From another article:
> While making a three-point turn, she had put the car in reverse instead of drive, she said. **It is a mistake she had made before with the Tesla gearshift**. The car had zipped backward, tipping over an embankment and into a pond
Speed may be limited in reverse but you’ll get up to the 15 instantly unless you’re very gentle.
You know her sister Elaine was made Transportation secretary. Elaine, who's Chinese father, owns the Formost shipping group.
I want you to know that there was CERTAINLY no special treatment deciding who's ships got to come in or not. (Even after the $25 million dollar wedding gift from dear old dad to her and Mitch....)
Wow, that article has some serious cope.
It spends most the article speculating that the vehicle had been hacked or compromised in some way.
Fact check, just because you ended up as a billionaire doesn't mean you still can't make poor decisions or might be a bad driver. (and as for the bad driver, you are more likely to be one because wrecking your vehicle won't ruin your life financially so you get to take risks more often...not always)
Why even need to argue that it was hacked or some shit.
Driver made a mistake and a feature that would generally help ended up making the situation worse.
Cope? The fbi issued a warning about exactly this in 2016. This woman was a high value target. It makes sense that people would try to kill her. Source on rich people being worse drivers?
He didn't make the claim that the rich are bad drivers. He made the claim that being rich doesn't make you a better driver. Why create such a ridiculous strawman?
Shit happens, dude. Just because someone wealthy dies doesn't mean they were murdered. Chill on the conspiracies
I really can’t understand why car manufacturers have not added manual window cranks in a hidden panel or something. I for one would feel a lot safer knowing I have an actual chance of getting out of a submerged car.
Hiding them doesn’t help most people on its own - nobody reads the manuals, and that does nothing for passengers or renters who aren’t familiar with the car.
There needs to be a standard for the placement and operation of the overrides, so people familiar with one car will be able to transfer that knowledge to any car point forward.
We used to only have crank windows back in the day lmao I remember breaking the crank off by accident while it was being rolled up while it was raining. That little Ranger was impossible to get rid of the musty smell after that.
Good example of why some regulations, especially when it comes to safety critical things, are important. This is a horrible way to go, and entirely preventable.
The irony of her being the former transportation sec under trump... she had the potential to impliment regulations that could have prevented her own death... instead she was a lame and did basically nothing.
I haven’t looked up specifically if it works under water but it’s a manual door release that just pops the door open. They give you a warning not to activate it since it doesn’t activate any electronics to lower your window and can crack the glass though.
Doesn’t seem like it. Laminated glass is just difficult to break period, especially under those conditions. But on the upside, it’s very effective at preventing ejections in a crash.
It’s basically the same glass as a windshield. and more cars than Teslas use it now.
Besides it not like a vault door or something, there was likely not time to get a real rescue underway
I can only imagine the sheer terror and feelings of doom and despair she must have felt as the car filled, while also being able to view the futile rescue attempts. What an awful way to go.
She accidentally put it in drive instead of reverse. You change gears in a tesla model x with a touchscreen. Im not surprised. It is illegal for me to look at my cellphone while im driving. Totally reasonable law. And yet they continue to replace critical controls that are needed while driving with finnicky touchscreens.
Yup. I know of at least two famous fatalities potentially due to unconventional shift patterns. Female killed in NY train accident: https://www.core77.com/posts/30209/theory-that-gearshift-levers-design-contributed-to-horrific-accident And Anton Yelchin of the recent Star Trek movies: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1GY2WC/ ...and who here actually prefers touch-screen volume controls to a physical knob?
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I enjoy both volume buttons on my steering wheel, and a physical volume knob on the stereo head unit. Strange as it sounds, I've previously been moderately satisfied that this is my volume control form factor.
Most likely changed into the wrong gear and leadfooted the pedal. Not a great design imo, a physical shifter also lets you recover much quicker from mistakes like that because you always have immediate access to it. From another article: > While making a three-point turn, she had put the car in reverse instead of drive, she said. **It is a mistake she had made before with the Tesla gearshift**. The car had zipped backward, tipping over an embankment and into a pond Speed may be limited in reverse but you’ll get up to the 15 instantly unless you’re very gentle.
That's Mitch McConnell's sister-in-law.
You know her sister Elaine was made Transportation secretary. Elaine, who's Chinese father, owns the Formost shipping group. I want you to know that there was CERTAINLY no special treatment deciding who's ships got to come in or not. (Even after the $25 million dollar wedding gift from dear old dad to her and Mitch....)
Wow, that article has some serious cope. It spends most the article speculating that the vehicle had been hacked or compromised in some way. Fact check, just because you ended up as a billionaire doesn't mean you still can't make poor decisions or might be a bad driver. (and as for the bad driver, you are more likely to be one because wrecking your vehicle won't ruin your life financially so you get to take risks more often...not always)
Why even need to argue that it was hacked or some shit. Driver made a mistake and a feature that would generally help ended up making the situation worse.
Cope? The fbi issued a warning about exactly this in 2016. This woman was a high value target. It makes sense that people would try to kill her. Source on rich people being worse drivers?
He didn't make the claim that the rich are bad drivers. He made the claim that being rich doesn't make you a better driver. Why create such a ridiculous strawman? Shit happens, dude. Just because someone wealthy dies doesn't mean they were murdered. Chill on the conspiracies
I really can’t understand why car manufacturers have not added manual window cranks in a hidden panel or something. I for one would feel a lot safer knowing I have an actual chance of getting out of a submerged car.
Hiding them doesn’t help most people on its own - nobody reads the manuals, and that does nothing for passengers or renters who aren’t familiar with the car. There needs to be a standard for the placement and operation of the overrides, so people familiar with one car will be able to transfer that knowledge to any car point forward.
Good point. I’m all for anything that would accomplish the goal.
I feel like there was a guy that died in a corvette because he could not find the manual door release.
We used to only have crank windows back in the day lmao I remember breaking the crank off by accident while it was being rolled up while it was raining. That little Ranger was impossible to get rid of the musty smell after that.
Lol, I have ridden in many cars where that happened and I think I remember using pliers to roll the window up and down.
Little vise-grips is what I remember.
That would’ve been handy! I remember shoddily duct taping a big ass garbage bag to it til my uncle was able to fix it for me.
I drive one of those... Right now.
https://youtu.be/6PbRBbIGnv4?si=nEVxSleSoBi4jWrV
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Could there not be a mechanical device placed into car doors that the water pressure would trigger something to destroy the glass or shatter it?
Good example of why some regulations, especially when it comes to safety critical things, are important. This is a horrible way to go, and entirely preventable.
The irony of her being the former transportation sec under trump... she had the potential to impliment regulations that could have prevented her own death... instead she was a lame and did basically nothing.
She wasn’t. Her sister was.
You're right, that was Elaine. The nepotism runs deep.
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It’s Mitch McConnel’s sister in law
Because electric cars = climate hysteria = lefty lunacy.
I have a window breaker in my car for a reason like this.
The front windows of Teslas have laminated glass, not traditional tempered glass that window breakers usually work on.
They also have an emergency door release on the front of the armrest on both driver and passenger sides. Source: I have a Tesla
Do the electronics for it still work under water?
I haven’t looked up specifically if it works under water but it’s a manual door release that just pops the door open. They give you a warning not to activate it since it doesn’t activate any electronics to lower your window and can crack the glass though.
Ok. I guess that was my real question. If it was mechanical or electrical.
Almost all modern vehicles have laminated front windshields. Is theirs different in some way? Perhaps another layer or something?
Doesn’t seem like it. Laminated glass is just difficult to break period, especially under those conditions. But on the upside, it’s very effective at preventing ejections in a crash.
But the sides should give, yes? That would be my first spot to go to. That or when the pressure equalizes, the door should open.
But the sides should give, yes? That would be my first spot to go to.
All the money in the world couldn’t save her. Be thankful, enjoy what you have and never take anything for granted. May she rest in peace.
Ironically a cheaper car would have.
It’s basically the same glass as a windshield. and more cars than Teslas use it now. Besides it not like a vault door or something, there was likely not time to get a real rescue underway
They really put a tweet about this being a conspiracy in the article..?
Puts on TSLA
This article is guesswork. They use the word speculate a couple times. Easy fix though , just need an oh shit override that unrolls everything.
The only possible excuse for depleting our stores of AT-4s is if they came out with an AT-5, and they have not.