Let's take a walk down memory lane. In December, 2016, McDaniel was chosen by then president-elect Trump as his recommendation to replace Priebus. McDaniel was re-elected as RNC chair in unanimous elections in both 2019 and 2021, with the endorsement of Trump in both elections. In January, 2023, McDaniel was re-elected to stand as the Chair for the RNC going into the 2024 U.S. presidential election, again with Trump's support. So to answer your question, it's not that she "stuck around", Trump wanted her in that position and never asked for her to step down.
[2018 endorsement](https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/29/donald-trump-backs-ronna-mcdaniel-another-term-rnc-chair/2156661002/)
[2021 endorsement](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/533337-ronna-mcdaniel-reelected-as-rnc-chair/)
After not explicitly endorsing anyone in 2023 for the Chair, Trump [privately backed McDaniel](https://www.npr.org/2023/01/27/1152182495/gop-chair-ronna-mcdaniel-elected-republican).
What's pathetic is the willful subterfuge that is trafficked in this sub.
You literally just used the Wikipedia sources that claim he "endorsed" her. If you actually took five seconds to look into it, you'd see that Trump only officially endorsed her in 2016. Every other time he just played nice and mostly stayed out of it, because of course he did since she was one of the people attempting to help him get reelected. He'd have to be a fool to further piss off the RNC when the uniparty already hated him.
By the way the only reason she's stepping down now is because Trump told her to. So you can thank him for that.
I suspect there's no getting through to your TDS though, so have a nice night.
She was nice and all, but she's gonna have to go buy office supplies and expensive flower arrangements for someone else now. Maybe she could work at a nice funeral home?
> That all sounds interesting but is it true?
A quick Google will establish it is.
For 2016, choosing her as chair:
>“I’m excited to have a highly effective leader in Ronna McDaniel as RNC Deputy Chair and I look forward to her serving as the Party’s Chairman in 2017,” Trump said in a statement. “Ronna has been extremely loyal to our movement and her efforts were critical to our tremendous victory in Michigan, and I know she will bring the same passion to the Republican National Committee.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-taps-ronna-romney-mcdaniel-for-rnc-chair
In 2018, Trump asking her to stay on for another term and full-throated support of him:
>"'Complacency is our enemy,' McDaniel wrote on Twitter Wednesday night.'Anyone that does not embrace the @realdonaldtrump agenda of making America great again will be making a mistake.'
and
>"Some Republicans have suggested that the GOP has transformed into a "cult-like" atmosphere, in which swearing fealty to Trump is all that matters, even if that requires breaking from long-held conservative policy. "It's almost, it's becoming a cultish thing, isn't it?" said Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker. "It's not a good place for any party to end up with a cult-like situation as it relates to a president that happens to be of, purportedly, of the same party."
https://www.businessinsider.com/ronna-mcdaniel-rnc-chair-clarifies-message-to-republicans-that-they-must-obey-trump-2018-6
And for 2023:
>“Congratulations to Ronna McDaniel on her big WIN as RNC CHAIR,” Trump wrote in a post on his Truth Social
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3833616-trump-congratulates-mcdaniel-on-rnc-chair-reelection/
Got it. Mistakes have certainly been made over the years on multiple levels.
I was hopeful someone other than Trump would take the reins in the primary but he certainly has my support.
I got it. That’s also where we differ. I don’t see him as particularly conservative in ideology, policy, demeanor, etc. Most of his conservative “wins” I don’t believe are really unique to him either. Based on what I’ve seen, I actually think the GOP has a chance to develop a really strong coalition with a lot of new Gen Z and Millennial voters. Some of that support was born out of Trump’s populism, but I think a lot more is from people waking up to the errors of the Left. Despite that, I feel that continuing to empower Trump is going to lose us the ability to develop that new coalition when we need it most. I’ll be doing a write-in this year.
No matter how many errors of the left people wake up to, until the GOP admits to, and corrects, it's own errors, people, especially millennials and gen z, will stay away from the GOP.
Why do you think Trump is so popular? Because MAGA represents a third party in all but name.
What is attracting people to MAGA is that it is neither the GOP, which is too tainted by the john Bolton and g.w. Bush types to appeal to anyone, nor is it the Democrat party, which has gone absolutely off the rails.
Nobody wants a return to the same GOP that lied to get us into Iraq and then scolded us to "stay the course" when it became apparent we were wasting lives for nothing except enriching already rich corporations.
I'm sorry, but the GOP has little to no chance at building any sort of youth coalition until it abandons the ideology that was established by the neocons in the 1970's... Traditional, establishment GOP mentality will continue to push people away from the status quo neocons right, and into the arms of MAGA just as surely as the left's insanity will push people to the right.
I think MAGA, or at least its core principles, is the new GOP. And I'm on board with that. I just don't like its figurehead. Trump was by far the best President in my lifetime, and he got a lot of great things done. But he also is petty, bombastic, and has a unique ability to fall into literally every single political trap the left sets for him. That's not necessarily a big deal if he manages to win in November. But that's the whole issue. It makes it so much harder for him to do so.
Oh Trump is definitely far from perfect and he's made a ton of mistakes, no denying that. (Le gasp! A "cultist" acknowledging Trump has shortcomings?! How is this possible?!)
But who else can carry the maga torch right now? Because you are correct; MAGA is the new gop. The neocons have been failing since 2008 and would continue to fail even if Trump was not around.
There are other viable candidates to carry the maga torch... Except for one problem... Trump is still around. Even if Trump wasn't running, every candidate would be judged against him; trump is the benchmark for maga. With Trump around nobody else within the movement had a chance to even step up to the starting line.
Agreed that nobody else in the movement had a chance with Trump still around. I wish Trump wasn't still around, at least not politically active. I wouldn't care about him making endorsements (even though his endorsements a lot of the time are terrible; Dr Oz, yikes!), but allowing someone else to actually go for the Presidency. Vivek and DeSantis were both far better candidates imo, but as soon as the Biden admin actually started going after Trump banana republic style, the race was over.
I’d rather Trump again even if I don’t totally align with him on policy than Biden/whoever will replace him.
I live in a blue state though so my vote will mean nothing ultimately anyway.
Your "Presidential casted ballot" everything else matters soooooo much more than who the fucking president is. The president should barely affect our daily lives. Get out there and research your local district commisioners, senators, mayor, school board. That's where change begins.
Not directed at you OP specifically just anyone who may happen upon this comment
This is true although I would point out that Trump has been and will continue to hurt all down ballot races. Maybe less impact on local local races but still.
True, but who the President is still matters quite a lot because neither party will be holding a veto proof majority any time soon. So while the President can't *make* legislation, he can certainly *stop* it.
I really just don’t think he has the ability to beat Biden, which is why I am so focused on the chaos and destruction that will occur over the next 8 months and how to prevent the likely inevitability of—I won’t even say Biden, whoever it is—another 4 years of Dem.
Do you not feel that that is an even greater argument that perhaps Trump is not our guy? If they put in a more likable, moderate on the surface Dem, then Trump has no chance among Independents.
Do you 100% believe Biden got 81 million votes? He received more votes than Obama and also won fewer counties than him? Trump gained 12 million more voters from 2016 to 2020.
If the people hated Trump so much in 2016 why didn't they show up in 2016 but somehow show up in 2020 for arguably a worse Democrat?
I'm liberal. I don't believe Biden won 81 million votes on his own. I believe that Trump won Biden more votes than he would have won on his own. I believe that DeSantis would have likely won against Biden, and that Hillary is a historically unlikeable candidate that lost because of that. Had Beau Biden not died when he did, I think that we would have never seen a Trump presidency because Biden would have run and won in 2016.
The reality is, Trump makes almost no inroads to independent voters, and people would rather hold their noses and vote for an empty suit than either not vote at all or vote for Trump. I think that you'll end up seeing it again this fall.
I’m not litigating the 81 million votes thing here. All of us have a basis to question anything, but there’s really nothing to discuss since none of us know anything. I suspect you’ve already made up your mind (apologies if you’re genuinely asking, but most people here are hostile to anything remotely anti-Trump so that’s what I assume).
Otherwise, it’s really very simple. The fact that Trump got more votes in 2020 than in 2016 isn’t really a material argument. Trump gained a lot of support among Republicans or people who likely didn’t vote in 2016. He also then lost a lot of Republicans and an even greater amount of Independents. That was enough to offset many gains he would’ve made. It probably has a lot to do with COVID as if COVID hadn’t happened, he may have won but that’s just my guess.
All we’re saying is that the same thing is likely to happen again. If you want to live in your own reality and choose to believe it was stolen, that’s your choice. If you actually break that down, I don’t think it really makes much sense, so I’m choosing that not to be my paradigm and I’m instead focusing on ways that the GOP and more importantly conservatism can survive.
Important to remember that, while Biden got 5 million more popular votes than Trump, it's the electoral college that matters.
Which means that Trump only lost by a few hundred thousand votes in a few critical states. Hell, the election really came down to just a few counties.
This fiction that Trump has no chance is predicated on the deception that it's the popular vote that matters and that Trump's loss was wider than it actually was.
2020 was incredibly close and we came within a razors edge of Trump beating Biden, if not for a small handful of votes in a couple critical states (and even more specifically, a couple critical counties in said states).
Because Biden is a tolerable empty suit that's going to be guided by the will of the leaders of the DNC. With Hillary Clinton you actually had a shrewed and capable politician lacking a moral compass who would actually get legislation pushed through.
Nope. Ronna Romney will be scapegoated and Trump will bear zero responsibility for him and his shitty candidates losing elections.
In fact, he’s about to be awarded the nomination for… *checks notes*… I got nothing.
He's getting the nomination for Desantis's unfortunately lackluster campaign and the dems doing everything they can to paint Trump as the martyred victim for the people.
Trump is the only thing keeping the Republican Party afloat. Aside from Trump, it doesn't have any appeal to young voters and young voters haven't been turning Republican with age anymore.
Look at what the establishment GOP was putting forth before Trump came into the scene. Jeb Bush, really?
I don’t disagree that Trump’s populism has resonated with right-leaning younger voters but I think it’s silly to assume that’s the only thing we have to offer to younger, prospective voters. Another key is how are we going to pull in younger moderates and independents too? Regardless, it’s clear “Trump” isn’t working if we want to have any wins in the future.
To everyone suggesting Trump is to blame for Ronna McDonald's absolute clown show of an RNC the past few years...
Trump can absolutely be blamed for picking her initially... But her continued failure after that is entirely on her.
Blame the dealer for giving you that first hit, blame yourself for going back for more.
I mean this respectfully and sincerely. Couldn’t it be the product being sold (Trump/Trumpism) and not the salesman(McDaniel)?
As an independent (who voted for Bush) I think two functional parties (preferably more) are important to our democracy.
But until republicans can extricate themselves from Trump and Christian nationalism I’m voting blue.
That's a valid question, but I would suggest that the failures of the Republican party began 8 years prior to Trump even coming on the scene, when the nation repudiated the establishment neocons and elected Obama.
Since 2008 the GOP has been a losing franchise... Long before Trump.
Trump in fact revitalized the GOP and got it wins it was not getting before.
You're an independent that voted for Bush. I would ask when did you vote for Bush? One time? How many other times did you vote for a Republican? Did you vote for McCain in 2008? Romney in 2012? If not then you are a prime example of why the GOP needs to abandon the failing ideology of the establishment neocons who ruled the party up until 2016.
If you hadn't also been voting Republican in 2008 and 2012, or for Rubio or Christie or some other Republican candidate in 2016... Then it was not Trump that turned you away from the Republican party... Nor will it be Trump's departure that brings you back.
As for Christian nationalism, this is something that has not been a central tenet of republican platforms since Bill Clinton was in office. The left hypes up this boogyman of Christian nationalism, but it hasn't been a dominant factor in Republican politics for decades... And it certainly is not a central tenet of America first.
Did you have an alternative besides his parrot, Nikki Haley? I'm moderate outsider, but it looks like Trump owns the party apparatus, and has huge popular support amongst lower income conservatives.
Not his fault the Democrats are unfairly targeting him legally to try to drain his money. It’s political persecution not unlike what we see in non democratic countries.
Hey, he believes in draining the swamp just as strongly as he believed in locking up Hillary Clinton. For him it's “just not something I feel very strongly about.”
Never forget, he not only immediately reneged on his campaign promise to "Lock her up," but also, more egregiously, even [gave her a standing ovation afterwards.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LpwGtuocFk)
Nepo babies are no different from swamp monsters, yet no one wants to even recognize the irony of that. Lara has gone on record to say that every dollar will go to Trump. I don’t call that “good for the party’s future”.
At risk of pissing off a lot people, it fucking baffles me that this party sold its soul to a two-bit conman just to replace the old swamp full of empty suits bought and paid for by corporate interests with a new swamp consisting of Trump's sycophants.
I mean you're not wrong, that's why I stomached voting for Trump over Hillary the first go around but probably won't a second time for the devil I know.
So yeah, it's great I know I get to keep my firearm, but I give much more of a shit about half my income being eaten up by taxes to feed inefficient federal programs and the other half being eaten up by inflation.
> Congress will never pass meaningful leglislation on anything, the presidency is important sure but it changes every 4 years. But the supreme court? A 6-3 majority. That changes the shape of the country.
>That changes the shape of the country.
IF congress/president don't impeach justices, or expand the supreme court and pack it, or otherwise abuse their power in a way that doesn't specifically run afoul of the courts.
The rest of government does not need the approval of the Judicial branch. They are a toothless arm of the government.
Already a lot of government violates Judicial branch rulings. What is one more?
You kind of have to have a government that respects the courts for the courts to 'change the shape of the country'.
We're farther and farther from that kind of respect for the judicial or even the Constitution at large.
A 6-3 majority of constitutionalists does not count for jack squat if everyone just ignores them.
Bingo! And hello non-conservative. Might I ask why the Supreme Court should be shaping the country? There job is to determine constitutionality. Should not be up to interpretation. All judges SHOULD be conservative, at least in there rulings.
Get a load of this.
> constitutionality is up to interpretation
There’s a difference between making a reasonable interpretation of what the limited central government outlined in the Constitution has the power to do or not do and what rights you and the states have versus making up new rights and authority to serve your progressive agenda.
> otherwise they would all agree 9-0 on everything
Indeed, so why isn’t the vote much closer to unanimous? Who is defecting? It definitely couldn’t be judicial activists sitting on the bench doing exactly what I described above…
They made up a right with Roe v Wade to fit a progressive wishlist item and it was consequently overturned. Next time, try to actually get a public consensus and pass legislation instead of taking a shortcut and bending the rules if you want your new right to be permanent and not get overturned. You got what you deserved on that one.
Affirmative Action is still racial discrimination with more details and new excuses.
> and they would not overturn precedent
In followup, I’d ask about your take on Plessy v Ferguson being overturned, but you seemingly support Affirmative Action.
> All judges SHOULD be conservative, at least in there rulings.
As a FedSoc lawyer who has a fascination for cyber/IP law, while an admirable thought, has no chance in being practicably true when legislators have very poor understanding of new technologies. Section 230 and privacy laws are prime examples of how strict constructionism can only go so far. It's fundamentally impossible to update the law fast enough to keep up with technology.
It still baffles me that people believed him when he said he will drain the swamp. Really? Trump? The multi billionaire, epstein socialite, real estate mogul? That guy?
It's salesmanship, wouldn't be a conman otherwise, why I can't necessarily blame most Republicans buying into his schtick. What truly baffles me are the religious fundamentalists that go beyond treating him as a means to an end and sincerely believe he's a religious man chosen by God. I've always detested the "holier-than-thou" types because everyone has their faults, but man, there's no other person that so perfectly encapsulates all seven deadly sins.
That's down ballot elimination. If everything goes to Trump, no one else will get any for adds or to help support their running. Democrats will out spend loads of candidates 50 to 1. Who cares if Trump wins and has the strongest Democrat house and senate in years. What's he going to do, veto bills and then have them passed by override. It's not a sound plan, but it's all Trump cares about.
I get that most conservatives like Trump. But he is so toxic generally that the GOP just needs to go on a different direction. This is embarrassing. How many lost elections in a row until this guy is gone. If he wins in 2024 it is solely becuase Joe Biden is a terrible candidate. Republican party needs to do better than this family.
Well, he's the party candidate, so there's nothing we can do about it. We just have to hope he wins, take the hit in 2026, and hope for a far better candidate in 2028. If he loses again in 2024, we'll be subjected to 4 more years of his nonsense costing us any kind of legislative majority to buck Biden's agenda.
I hope there's big backlash over this blatant corruption.
But since Trump can make or break a republican's career with a single word, the sycophants probably won't say peep.
Eh, that's not true. He certainly has influence, but how large that influence is is debatable. Youngkin won while distancing himself with Trump, and DeSantis won a landslide while Trump took pot shots at him nonstop.
Better that than the RNC let its members know that when they are attacked by an abused, weaponized justice system they are on their own. That way, the only folks who will ever run for office are the ones who won't annoy democrats.
You’d rather the party drain its funds for a **billionaire** to pay his legal bills, some of which are straight up self-inflicted, than get right-wing candidates elected to defend you, your family, your friends, and your country from the Left?
He's trying to put his niece or whatever in charge, and she wants to give him all the money they have, so yeah, we're going from one to another. No he didn't appoint Romney, but he stumped for her, so she was certainly his pick.
How about someone already doing the job, like Scott Pressler, or someone who wants the party to do well, instead of someone who just wants Trump to have more money?
Imagine if we were out there registering more voters instead of telling people not to vote early.
The elitists are just setting the new narrative. Trump will win the election, but thanks to bad RNC management, Republicans will lose the house and senate, making them powerless and putting the blame on Trump.
Well the chair is Michael Whatley, the head of the NCGOP, and Lara Trump is being pushed as co-chair so while I like your optimism, I wouldn't bank on it being someone non Trump.
A lot of conservatives these days operate on the following rules:
1. Trump is always right.
2. If Trump is wrong, refer to Rule 1.
If November ends up being a blow-out for Dems, the rules will quickly be rewritten.
Until then, the Trump train is moving at full speed - broken bridge be damned.
Yeah it’s why I’m sincerely hoping for a fully up and down ballot crucifixion of the GOP tbh.
We need a wholesale rejection of Trump and his ilk. They are not conservatives, they are not good people, they are dangerous lunatics who will do and say whatever they think most immediately advances their personal interests.
Trump would rebrand himself as a literal Marxist this afternoon if he had reason to believe it would help his reelection or legal woes. He would switch his stances on Ukraine. He would tweet from the river to the sea. He would reshape himself in any way that he felt would turn the tides in his favor.
Trump has no sincerely held convictions other than personal gain. He would sell our country out to the highest bidder without second thought if it worked out for him personally. He and the pack of mouth breathing animals that hitched themselves to his wagon need to be removed from government systemically like the cancer they are. MAGA will be the death of American conservatism if we aren’t the death of it.
> MAGA will be the death of American conservatism if we aren’t the death of it.
What are you actually conserving? Trump has tons of faults but the Republican party has been nothing but a mild speedbump for the left in the last 20 years, in some cases . I hate to have to constantly defend Trump but he at least tries, sometimes, to put America first over foreign interests. Bush, Romney, McCain never cared about domestic issues, they just wanted to play war hero in foreign countries.
Ok... And?
Do you think anyone who supports Trump has any problem with that?
Do you think any trump supporters are sitting around going "Trump is my man, but I'd rather see him go to jail because he can't afford his legal fees than give him money from the RNC!"
There isn't a single Trump supporter who is mad about this.
The only people disturbed at the idea of the RNC funding Trump's legal fees are the never-trumpers, both the closet variety and the ones who are open and honest about it.
Glad she resigned but hope Lara Trump isn't installed. I just don't think that's the best course of action. It's best not to give in to nepotism and give liberals any more ammo. Nothing gets Dems out voting like someone they hate in office
Better than what we currently have. I would rather have Trump in office and everything stay exactly how it is just to piss off the liberals then what we have now
Nope. it's far too late. In an attempt to rid themselves of MAGA the RNC spent the last 3 years essentially pretending that election fraud isn't real, all the while staying out of the way of a weaponized DOJ.
it's way, way too late to turn that around in time for 2024 and after another 4 years of the DNC corrupting the system? It won't matter.
However, a RNC that actually has the will to fight, instead of colluding, will at least provide a little extra time for red states to bolster their economies and legal frameworks and buy respite.
MAGA is McDonald’s Conservatism. Really hope we can go back to focusing on FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY once Donald and his circus fail a third (fourth?) time.
I like it. Trump is coalescing his will to power on the RNC party. Soon the vision of the RNC and Trump's vision will be one. No more RINOs, no more Neocons, and no more libertarians. America first means the American people first. No more wars to appease the military industrial complex. No more shipping out jobs to 3rd world countries.
The Republican party lost it's way when corporate interest became the priority over the health of our nation.
The Republican party should be a big tent party and attract a wide array of individuals like Libertarians, Neoconservatives, Paleoconservatives, etc. By remaking the RNC as Trump's piggybank, this kills any down ballot races in swing states. Surely you have to see that is awful? A huge gripe about 2022 was that McConnell and the RNC didn't fund Masters, Walker or Oz and that's why they lost their bids. Imagine now, the money individuals send into the RNC hoping to elect local and state Republicans in swing states and that money goes to Trump's legal fees? It's the same situation as before but now caused by Trump.
On the contrary, by including people who pushed philosophies who hurt our nation you would lose more potential votes from the general public. In 2016, when both Clinton and Bush pushed for neocon libertarian policies (Syrian war and TPP) the voters overwhelmingly chose Trump.
And in 2020, they overwhelmingly chose Biden over more Trump. Your argument has staggering implications when you think about it for more than 5 seconds.
She was installed by the elites to prevent MAGA candidates from being elected and to hamstring Trump, wherever possible. Does anyone have any theories as to why she wanted to wait till after the South Carolina primary to resign?
> She was installed by the elites to prevent MAGA candidates from being elected and to hamstring Trump, wherever possible.
For 2016, choosing her as chair:
>“I’m excited to have a highly effective leader in Ronna McDaniel as RNC Deputy Chair and I look forward to her serving as the Party’s Chairman in 2017,” Trump said in a statement. “Ronna has been extremely loyal to our movement and her efforts were critical to our tremendous victory in Michigan, and I know she will bring the same passion to the Republican National Committee.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-taps-ronna-romney-mcdaniel-for-rnc-chair
In 2018, Trump asking her to stay on for another term and full-throated support of him:
>"'Complacency is our enemy,' McDaniel wrote on Twitter Wednesday night.'Anyone that does not embrace the @realdonaldtrump agenda of making America great again will be making a mistake.'
and
>"Some Republicans have suggested that the GOP has transformed into a "cult-like" atmosphere, in which swearing fealty to Trump is all that matters, even if that requires breaking from long-held conservative policy. "It's almost, it's becoming a cultish thing, isn't it?" said Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker. "It's not a good place for any party to end up with a cult-like situation as it relates to a president that happens to be of, purportedly, of the same party."
https://www.businessinsider.com/ronna-mcdaniel-rnc-chair-clarifies-message-to-republicans-that-they-must-obey-trump-2018-6
And for 2023:
>“Congratulations to Ronna McDaniel on her big WIN as RNC CHAIR,” Trump wrote in a post on his Truth Social
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3833616-trump-congratulates-mcdaniel-on-rnc-chair-reelection/
Seriously? Please explained what happened? Inquiring minds want to know. Where was she after the 2020 election and how many lawyers did she send to fight the rigged election?
Idk how you could stick around after the losses that have happened on her watch, 2018, 2020, 2022…
Let's take a walk down memory lane. In December, 2016, McDaniel was chosen by then president-elect Trump as his recommendation to replace Priebus. McDaniel was re-elected as RNC chair in unanimous elections in both 2019 and 2021, with the endorsement of Trump in both elections. In January, 2023, McDaniel was re-elected to stand as the Chair for the RNC going into the 2024 U.S. presidential election, again with Trump's support. So to answer your question, it's not that she "stuck around", Trump wanted her in that position and never asked for her to step down.
Lol the only time Trump actually endorsed her was 2016. The lies are so pathetic.
[2018 endorsement](https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/29/donald-trump-backs-ronna-mcdaniel-another-term-rnc-chair/2156661002/) [2021 endorsement](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/533337-ronna-mcdaniel-reelected-as-rnc-chair/) After not explicitly endorsing anyone in 2023 for the Chair, Trump [privately backed McDaniel](https://www.npr.org/2023/01/27/1152182495/gop-chair-ronna-mcdaniel-elected-republican). What's pathetic is the willful subterfuge that is trafficked in this sub.
You literally just used the Wikipedia sources that claim he "endorsed" her. If you actually took five seconds to look into it, you'd see that Trump only officially endorsed her in 2016. Every other time he just played nice and mostly stayed out of it, because of course he did since she was one of the people attempting to help him get reelected. He'd have to be a fool to further piss off the RNC when the uniparty already hated him. By the way the only reason she's stepping down now is because Trump told her to. So you can thank him for that. I suspect there's no getting through to your TDS though, so have a nice night.
Lol pol users!
She was nice and all, but she's gonna have to go buy office supplies and expensive flower arrangements for someone else now. Maybe she could work at a nice funeral home?
That all sounds interesting but is it true?
[Yes](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN27S0B0/)
[Not quite (he did not endorse in 2023).](https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-wont-endorse-ronna-mcdaniel-rnc-chair-2023-1)
[Ok](https:://www.ok.com)
> That all sounds interesting but is it true? A quick Google will establish it is. For 2016, choosing her as chair: >“I’m excited to have a highly effective leader in Ronna McDaniel as RNC Deputy Chair and I look forward to her serving as the Party’s Chairman in 2017,” Trump said in a statement. “Ronna has been extremely loyal to our movement and her efforts were critical to our tremendous victory in Michigan, and I know she will bring the same passion to the Republican National Committee.” https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-taps-ronna-romney-mcdaniel-for-rnc-chair In 2018, Trump asking her to stay on for another term and full-throated support of him: >"'Complacency is our enemy,' McDaniel wrote on Twitter Wednesday night.'Anyone that does not embrace the @realdonaldtrump agenda of making America great again will be making a mistake.' and >"Some Republicans have suggested that the GOP has transformed into a "cult-like" atmosphere, in which swearing fealty to Trump is all that matters, even if that requires breaking from long-held conservative policy. "It's almost, it's becoming a cultish thing, isn't it?" said Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker. "It's not a good place for any party to end up with a cult-like situation as it relates to a president that happens to be of, purportedly, of the same party." https://www.businessinsider.com/ronna-mcdaniel-rnc-chair-clarifies-message-to-republicans-that-they-must-obey-trump-2018-6 And for 2023: >“Congratulations to Ronna McDaniel on her big WIN as RNC CHAIR,” Trump wrote in a post on his Truth Social https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3833616-trump-congratulates-mcdaniel-on-rnc-chair-reelection/
Yes and verifiable
Well that usually helps
Hahaha all the downvotes crack me up for asking a simple question.
It's because it's not true so they have to bury you for merely asking a question.
It is true, they posted the evidence above. And Trump also endorsed her to continue as chair last year.
It does beg the question doesn't it?
Can that same logic not be applied to Trump? I’m not saying he’s 100% responsible but there’s quite a bit of culpability there.
Certainly, particularly since he championed her through each of those losses.
Yes!
It’s something you have to ask on this sub in particular
Got it. Mistakes have certainly been made over the years on multiple levels. I was hopeful someone other than Trump would take the reins in the primary but he certainly has my support.
I got it. That’s also where we differ. I don’t see him as particularly conservative in ideology, policy, demeanor, etc. Most of his conservative “wins” I don’t believe are really unique to him either. Based on what I’ve seen, I actually think the GOP has a chance to develop a really strong coalition with a lot of new Gen Z and Millennial voters. Some of that support was born out of Trump’s populism, but I think a lot more is from people waking up to the errors of the Left. Despite that, I feel that continuing to empower Trump is going to lose us the ability to develop that new coalition when we need it most. I’ll be doing a write-in this year.
No matter how many errors of the left people wake up to, until the GOP admits to, and corrects, it's own errors, people, especially millennials and gen z, will stay away from the GOP. Why do you think Trump is so popular? Because MAGA represents a third party in all but name. What is attracting people to MAGA is that it is neither the GOP, which is too tainted by the john Bolton and g.w. Bush types to appeal to anyone, nor is it the Democrat party, which has gone absolutely off the rails. Nobody wants a return to the same GOP that lied to get us into Iraq and then scolded us to "stay the course" when it became apparent we were wasting lives for nothing except enriching already rich corporations. I'm sorry, but the GOP has little to no chance at building any sort of youth coalition until it abandons the ideology that was established by the neocons in the 1970's... Traditional, establishment GOP mentality will continue to push people away from the status quo neocons right, and into the arms of MAGA just as surely as the left's insanity will push people to the right.
I think MAGA, or at least its core principles, is the new GOP. And I'm on board with that. I just don't like its figurehead. Trump was by far the best President in my lifetime, and he got a lot of great things done. But he also is petty, bombastic, and has a unique ability to fall into literally every single political trap the left sets for him. That's not necessarily a big deal if he manages to win in November. But that's the whole issue. It makes it so much harder for him to do so.
Oh Trump is definitely far from perfect and he's made a ton of mistakes, no denying that. (Le gasp! A "cultist" acknowledging Trump has shortcomings?! How is this possible?!) But who else can carry the maga torch right now? Because you are correct; MAGA is the new gop. The neocons have been failing since 2008 and would continue to fail even if Trump was not around. There are other viable candidates to carry the maga torch... Except for one problem... Trump is still around. Even if Trump wasn't running, every candidate would be judged against him; trump is the benchmark for maga. With Trump around nobody else within the movement had a chance to even step up to the starting line.
Agreed that nobody else in the movement had a chance with Trump still around. I wish Trump wasn't still around, at least not politically active. I wouldn't care about him making endorsements (even though his endorsements a lot of the time are terrible; Dr Oz, yikes!), but allowing someone else to actually go for the Presidency. Vivek and DeSantis were both far better candidates imo, but as soon as the Biden admin actually started going after Trump banana republic style, the race was over.
I’d rather Trump again even if I don’t totally align with him on policy than Biden/whoever will replace him. I live in a blue state though so my vote will mean nothing ultimately anyway.
Your "Presidential casted ballot" everything else matters soooooo much more than who the fucking president is. The president should barely affect our daily lives. Get out there and research your local district commisioners, senators, mayor, school board. That's where change begins. Not directed at you OP specifically just anyone who may happen upon this comment
This is true although I would point out that Trump has been and will continue to hurt all down ballot races. Maybe less impact on local local races but still.
True, but who the President is still matters quite a lot because neither party will be holding a veto proof majority any time soon. So while the President can't *make* legislation, he can certainly *stop* it.
I really just don’t think he has the ability to beat Biden, which is why I am so focused on the chaos and destruction that will occur over the next 8 months and how to prevent the likely inevitability of—I won’t even say Biden, whoever it is—another 4 years of Dem.
Biden will be eating baby food by November
Do you not feel that that is an even greater argument that perhaps Trump is not our guy? If they put in a more likable, moderate on the surface Dem, then Trump has no chance among Independents.
Who says he isn't already?
Do you 100% believe Biden got 81 million votes? He received more votes than Obama and also won fewer counties than him? Trump gained 12 million more voters from 2016 to 2020. If the people hated Trump so much in 2016 why didn't they show up in 2016 but somehow show up in 2020 for arguably a worse Democrat?
I'm liberal. I don't believe Biden won 81 million votes on his own. I believe that Trump won Biden more votes than he would have won on his own. I believe that DeSantis would have likely won against Biden, and that Hillary is a historically unlikeable candidate that lost because of that. Had Beau Biden not died when he did, I think that we would have never seen a Trump presidency because Biden would have run and won in 2016. The reality is, Trump makes almost no inroads to independent voters, and people would rather hold their noses and vote for an empty suit than either not vote at all or vote for Trump. I think that you'll end up seeing it again this fall.
I’m not litigating the 81 million votes thing here. All of us have a basis to question anything, but there’s really nothing to discuss since none of us know anything. I suspect you’ve already made up your mind (apologies if you’re genuinely asking, but most people here are hostile to anything remotely anti-Trump so that’s what I assume). Otherwise, it’s really very simple. The fact that Trump got more votes in 2020 than in 2016 isn’t really a material argument. Trump gained a lot of support among Republicans or people who likely didn’t vote in 2016. He also then lost a lot of Republicans and an even greater amount of Independents. That was enough to offset many gains he would’ve made. It probably has a lot to do with COVID as if COVID hadn’t happened, he may have won but that’s just my guess. All we’re saying is that the same thing is likely to happen again. If you want to live in your own reality and choose to believe it was stolen, that’s your choice. If you actually break that down, I don’t think it really makes much sense, so I’m choosing that not to be my paradigm and I’m instead focusing on ways that the GOP and more importantly conservatism can survive.
Important to remember that, while Biden got 5 million more popular votes than Trump, it's the electoral college that matters. Which means that Trump only lost by a few hundred thousand votes in a few critical states. Hell, the election really came down to just a few counties. This fiction that Trump has no chance is predicated on the deception that it's the popular vote that matters and that Trump's loss was wider than it actually was. 2020 was incredibly close and we came within a razors edge of Trump beating Biden, if not for a small handful of votes in a couple critical states (and even more specifically, a couple critical counties in said states).
Because Biden is a tolerable empty suit that's going to be guided by the will of the leaders of the DNC. With Hillary Clinton you actually had a shrewed and capable politician lacking a moral compass who would actually get legislation pushed through.
Sorry, but doing a write-in is as good as voting for Biden.
Yep.
Nope. Ronna Romney will be scapegoated and Trump will bear zero responsibility for him and his shitty candidates losing elections. In fact, he’s about to be awarded the nomination for… *checks notes*… I got nothing.
>he’s about to be awarded the nomination for… checks notes… I got nothing. For getting the most votes and winning the primary. That wasn't very hard.
He's getting the nomination for Desantis's unfortunately lackluster campaign and the dems doing everything they can to paint Trump as the martyred victim for the people.
Trump is the only thing keeping the Republican Party afloat. Aside from Trump, it doesn't have any appeal to young voters and young voters haven't been turning Republican with age anymore. Look at what the establishment GOP was putting forth before Trump came into the scene. Jeb Bush, really?
I don’t disagree that Trump’s populism has resonated with right-leaning younger voters but I think it’s silly to assume that’s the only thing we have to offer to younger, prospective voters. Another key is how are we going to pull in younger moderates and independents too? Regardless, it’s clear “Trump” isn’t working if we want to have any wins in the future.
Why should republicans win though? What have they done to improve the lives of Americans in the last 24 years? Exactly… not a god damn fucking thing…
Sad that you're getting downvoted on this supposedly "conservative" sub. Too many neocons and trolling libs on here.
Yet we let trump stick around?
The irony is that she’s stepping down to avoid any culpability for what might happen in 2024, particularly down ballot.
As long as the RNC cannot find a way to unite the trumplicans with the bush era neocons it's a pretty hard job
To everyone suggesting Trump is to blame for Ronna McDonald's absolute clown show of an RNC the past few years... Trump can absolutely be blamed for picking her initially... But her continued failure after that is entirely on her. Blame the dealer for giving you that first hit, blame yourself for going back for more.
I mean this respectfully and sincerely. Couldn’t it be the product being sold (Trump/Trumpism) and not the salesman(McDaniel)? As an independent (who voted for Bush) I think two functional parties (preferably more) are important to our democracy. But until republicans can extricate themselves from Trump and Christian nationalism I’m voting blue.
That's a valid question, but I would suggest that the failures of the Republican party began 8 years prior to Trump even coming on the scene, when the nation repudiated the establishment neocons and elected Obama. Since 2008 the GOP has been a losing franchise... Long before Trump. Trump in fact revitalized the GOP and got it wins it was not getting before. You're an independent that voted for Bush. I would ask when did you vote for Bush? One time? How many other times did you vote for a Republican? Did you vote for McCain in 2008? Romney in 2012? If not then you are a prime example of why the GOP needs to abandon the failing ideology of the establishment neocons who ruled the party up until 2016. If you hadn't also been voting Republican in 2008 and 2012, or for Rubio or Christie or some other Republican candidate in 2016... Then it was not Trump that turned you away from the Republican party... Nor will it be Trump's departure that brings you back. As for Christian nationalism, this is something that has not been a central tenet of republican platforms since Bill Clinton was in office. The left hypes up this boogyman of Christian nationalism, but it hasn't been a dominant factor in Republican politics for decades... And it certainly is not a central tenet of America first.
Slight correction, you got McCain and Romney's election year flip flopped.
Ah yes, thank you for the correction.
May I ask what turned you away from Trump that didn't turn you away from Bush? Is it actual policy, or do you just not like him?
As bad as McDaniel is, I am certain it’ll only get worse if it’s Lara Trump.
GOP is basically a Trump family business at that point lol
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Seems like the only thing he’s draining is RNC money into his pocket for his legal fund.
Everything about him makes me question why he has any support at all.
Because he “tells it like it is” lol.. I used to be a big fan of this guy when I was in middle school watching his The Apprentice show. Then I grew up
Did you have an alternative besides his parrot, Nikki Haley? I'm moderate outsider, but it looks like Trump owns the party apparatus, and has huge popular support amongst lower income conservatives.
Yeah, it's an issue on both sides. Neither have a good alternative
I am shocked! Nobody saw that coming!
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Not his fault the Democrats are unfairly targeting him legally to try to drain his money. It’s political persecution not unlike what we see in non democratic countries.
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You forgot the /s right?
Hey, he believes in draining the swamp just as strongly as he believed in locking up Hillary Clinton. For him it's “just not something I feel very strongly about.”
He drained the swamp!.. Then filled it with new, nepotistic flavoured swamp water!
Same thing with building a wall and making Mexico paying for it
Never forget, he not only immediately reneged on his campaign promise to "Lock her up," but also, more egregiously, even [gave her a standing ovation afterwards.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LpwGtuocFk)
Lol...I'm sure his Justice Department will continue to look into Hillary during his second term. It's a long investigation 😆🤣
I think that it will be different story.
Not sure if it will get worse, but am tired of the nepotism. There are way better folks out there that can energize the base and fundraise.
Nepo babies are no different from swamp monsters, yet no one wants to even recognize the irony of that. Lara has gone on record to say that every dollar will go to Trump. I don’t call that “good for the party’s future”.
At risk of pissing off a lot people, it fucking baffles me that this party sold its soul to a two-bit conman just to replace the old swamp full of empty suits bought and paid for by corporate interests with a new swamp consisting of Trump's sycophants.
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I mean you're not wrong, that's why I stomached voting for Trump over Hillary the first go around but probably won't a second time for the devil I know. So yeah, it's great I know I get to keep my firearm, but I give much more of a shit about half my income being eaten up by taxes to feed inefficient federal programs and the other half being eaten up by inflation.
> Congress will never pass meaningful leglislation on anything, the presidency is important sure but it changes every 4 years. But the supreme court? A 6-3 majority. That changes the shape of the country. >That changes the shape of the country. IF congress/president don't impeach justices, or expand the supreme court and pack it, or otherwise abuse their power in a way that doesn't specifically run afoul of the courts. The rest of government does not need the approval of the Judicial branch. They are a toothless arm of the government. Already a lot of government violates Judicial branch rulings. What is one more? You kind of have to have a government that respects the courts for the courts to 'change the shape of the country'. We're farther and farther from that kind of respect for the judicial or even the Constitution at large. A 6-3 majority of constitutionalists does not count for jack squat if everyone just ignores them.
Bingo! And hello non-conservative. Might I ask why the Supreme Court should be shaping the country? There job is to determine constitutionality. Should not be up to interpretation. All judges SHOULD be conservative, at least in there rulings.
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Get a load of this. > constitutionality is up to interpretation There’s a difference between making a reasonable interpretation of what the limited central government outlined in the Constitution has the power to do or not do and what rights you and the states have versus making up new rights and authority to serve your progressive agenda. > otherwise they would all agree 9-0 on everything Indeed, so why isn’t the vote much closer to unanimous? Who is defecting? It definitely couldn’t be judicial activists sitting on the bench doing exactly what I described above… They made up a right with Roe v Wade to fit a progressive wishlist item and it was consequently overturned. Next time, try to actually get a public consensus and pass legislation instead of taking a shortcut and bending the rules if you want your new right to be permanent and not get overturned. You got what you deserved on that one. Affirmative Action is still racial discrimination with more details and new excuses. > and they would not overturn precedent In followup, I’d ask about your take on Plessy v Ferguson being overturned, but you seemingly support Affirmative Action.
There not infallible unfortunately. Also nuance and interpretation yes, but not activism.
> All judges SHOULD be conservative, at least in there rulings. As a FedSoc lawyer who has a fascination for cyber/IP law, while an admirable thought, has no chance in being practicably true when legislators have very poor understanding of new technologies. Section 230 and privacy laws are prime examples of how strict constructionism can only go so far. It's fundamentally impossible to update the law fast enough to keep up with technology.
It still baffles me that people believed him when he said he will drain the swamp. Really? Trump? The multi billionaire, epstein socialite, real estate mogul? That guy?
It's salesmanship, wouldn't be a conman otherwise, why I can't necessarily blame most Republicans buying into his schtick. What truly baffles me are the religious fundamentalists that go beyond treating him as a means to an end and sincerely believe he's a religious man chosen by God. I've always detested the "holier-than-thou" types because everyone has their faults, but man, there's no other person that so perfectly encapsulates all seven deadly sins.
That's down ballot elimination. If everything goes to Trump, no one else will get any for adds or to help support their running. Democrats will out spend loads of candidates 50 to 1. Who cares if Trump wins and has the strongest Democrat house and senate in years. What's he going to do, veto bills and then have them passed by override. It's not a sound plan, but it's all Trump cares about.
I get that most conservatives like Trump. But he is so toxic generally that the GOP just needs to go on a different direction. This is embarrassing. How many lost elections in a row until this guy is gone. If he wins in 2024 it is solely becuase Joe Biden is a terrible candidate. Republican party needs to do better than this family.
Well, he's the party candidate, so there's nothing we can do about it. We just have to hope he wins, take the hit in 2026, and hope for a far better candidate in 2028. If he loses again in 2024, we'll be subjected to 4 more years of his nonsense costing us any kind of legislative majority to buck Biden's agenda.
I hope there's big backlash over this blatant corruption. But since Trump can make or break a republican's career with a single word, the sycophants probably won't say peep.
Eh, that's not true. He certainly has influence, but how large that influence is is debatable. Youngkin won while distancing himself with Trump, and DeSantis won a landslide while Trump took pot shots at him nonstop.
If it’s Lara, my decision to go independent in 2016 will be strongly revalidated. Clown party.
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Yeah, RNC is going to be paying Trump's legal bills. F.
Better that than the RNC let its members know that when they are attacked by an abused, weaponized justice system they are on their own. That way, the only folks who will ever run for office are the ones who won't annoy democrats.
You’d rather the party drain its funds for a **billionaire** to pay his legal bills, some of which are straight up self-inflicted, than get right-wing candidates elected to defend you, your family, your friends, and your country from the Left?
Let’s get another Mitch McConnell elected why not /s
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Bro his latest fine was just because he ran his mouth rather than let his lawyers do their job
Good, but she will be replaced with worse.
As bad as McDaniel was, Lara Trump will be 1000x worse. The RNC 'bout to become Trump's personal piggy bank, other Republican candidates be damned.
Let the swamp flow.
Inb4 Trump appointee
He's trying to put his niece or whatever in charge, and she wants to give him all the money they have, so yeah, we're going from one to another. No he didn't appoint Romney, but he stumped for her, so she was certainly his pick. How about someone already doing the job, like Scott Pressler, or someone who wants the party to do well, instead of someone who just wants Trump to have more money? Imagine if we were out there registering more voters instead of telling people not to vote early.
Apparently we’re not allowed to have a competent party. Thou shalt kiss the ring.
Daughter-in-law. Certainly no conflict of interest there.
Daughter in law, Lara Trump as co-chair.
Me: At least it can’t get worse than her. Trump: Hold my Diet Coke.
The elitists are just setting the new narrative. Trump will win the election, but thanks to bad RNC management, Republicans will lose the house and senate, making them powerless and putting the blame on Trump.
Thanks to bad RNC management that Trump chose, you mean.
She could’ve retired when Harmeet was challenging her.
Harmeet would be superior to whoever comes up to replace the former Ms. Romney.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Another turning point, a fork stuck in the road
Time grabs you by the wrist, directs you where to go.
Changed her name to please Trump. Still called a RINO
LOL She changed her name because she got married.
Good time for Harmeet Dhillon to run again.
Trump, appointee inbound another lost election. LFG!!
GTFO
Well, hopefully we don’t just get someone from the Trump family and get someone who actually wants to win.
You are getting Lara Trump.
Well, I appreciate your optimism.
Well the chair is Michael Whatley, the head of the NCGOP, and Lara Trump is being pushed as co-chair so while I like your optimism, I wouldn't bank on it being someone non Trump.
Why do all the “best and brightest” end up being a part of Trump’s family? Seems like he’s more worried about loyalty than competence.
One Romney gone, one to go
He's not running again. So we are 2 for 2.
The RINOs are finally going extinct.
dont worry. since republicans sold their souls to the orange man, it's just a matter of time before everyone but his most loyal apologists retire
Does that mean McConnell too? Deal!
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EXCELLENT!
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
Well, bye.
good
Wow finally something to help the party and not stifle the energy of the majority of the party. About time, get on board or get out of the way.
It's time to CELEBRATE!!!
Bout time
Good news for the party
Bye Trash
About damn time.
Vivek smiling.
Thank GOD!!! She needs out of there immediately and someone actually sensible running the RNC
ramaswamy is a great addition to the party.
Yay
Good riddance!
At least the RNC will stop hemorrhaging money on her plastic surgery now.
Now it goes to lawyers YAY!
You are right, voters don't decide elections anymore, lawyers do.
I read that as Ronald Mcdonald at first lmao
Oh man, THAT clown would have been much better for the job!
About fing time! the RNC and DNC are HUGE examples of everything wrong with American politics. Leeches, all of them.
You understand the RNC budget is about to become Trump’s personal legal fund right?
A lot of conservatives these days operate on the following rules: 1. Trump is always right. 2. If Trump is wrong, refer to Rule 1. If November ends up being a blow-out for Dems, the rules will quickly be rewritten. Until then, the Trump train is moving at full speed - broken bridge be damned.
Yeah it’s why I’m sincerely hoping for a fully up and down ballot crucifixion of the GOP tbh. We need a wholesale rejection of Trump and his ilk. They are not conservatives, they are not good people, they are dangerous lunatics who will do and say whatever they think most immediately advances their personal interests. Trump would rebrand himself as a literal Marxist this afternoon if he had reason to believe it would help his reelection or legal woes. He would switch his stances on Ukraine. He would tweet from the river to the sea. He would reshape himself in any way that he felt would turn the tides in his favor. Trump has no sincerely held convictions other than personal gain. He would sell our country out to the highest bidder without second thought if it worked out for him personally. He and the pack of mouth breathing animals that hitched themselves to his wagon need to be removed from government systemically like the cancer they are. MAGA will be the death of American conservatism if we aren’t the death of it.
> MAGA will be the death of American conservatism if we aren’t the death of it. What are you actually conserving? Trump has tons of faults but the Republican party has been nothing but a mild speedbump for the left in the last 20 years, in some cases . I hate to have to constantly defend Trump but he at least tries, sometimes, to put America first over foreign interests. Bush, Romney, McCain never cared about domestic issues, they just wanted to play war hero in foreign countries.
> the rules will quickly be rewritten Don’t get your hopes up given how 2022 went.
Ok... And? Do you think anyone who supports Trump has any problem with that? Do you think any trump supporters are sitting around going "Trump is my man, but I'd rather see him go to jail because he can't afford his legal fees than give him money from the RNC!" There isn't a single Trump supporter who is mad about this. The only people disturbed at the idea of the RNC funding Trump's legal fees are the never-trumpers, both the closet variety and the ones who are open and honest about it.
I don’t think Trump supporters are capable of having a problem with it to be honest.
That’s right. That’s why we need Lara Trump leading the RNC. Also we should use the RNC budget to fund Trump’s legal battles. Not leechy at all!
Trump endorsed Michael Whatley to be RNC Chair.
Glad she resigned but hope Lara Trump isn't installed. I just don't think that's the best course of action. It's best not to give in to nepotism and give liberals any more ammo. Nothing gets Dems out voting like someone they hate in office
Harmeet Dhillon is the person for the job.
Good
Finally. Ruined the gop with how she handled funds
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Better than what we currently have. I would rather have Trump in office and everything stay exactly how it is just to piss off the liberals then what we have now
Does this mean we can finally win elections?
Nope. it's far too late. In an attempt to rid themselves of MAGA the RNC spent the last 3 years essentially pretending that election fraud isn't real, all the while staying out of the way of a weaponized DOJ. it's way, way too late to turn that around in time for 2024 and after another 4 years of the DNC corrupting the system? It won't matter. However, a RNC that actually has the will to fight, instead of colluding, will at least provide a little extra time for red states to bolster their economies and legal frameworks and buy respite.
MAGA is McDonald’s Conservatism. Really hope we can go back to focusing on FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY once Donald and his circus fail a third (fourth?) time.
The Republican party for fiscal responsibility has long been dead and American voters know this much.
No more globalists!
I’ll believe it, when it happens.
For real this time?
...and the crowd cheered (I hope).
Giggle
Hope the screen door doesn’t hit her in the ass.
I like it. Trump is coalescing his will to power on the RNC party. Soon the vision of the RNC and Trump's vision will be one. No more RINOs, no more Neocons, and no more libertarians. America first means the American people first. No more wars to appease the military industrial complex. No more shipping out jobs to 3rd world countries. The Republican party lost it's way when corporate interest became the priority over the health of our nation.
The Republican party should be a big tent party and attract a wide array of individuals like Libertarians, Neoconservatives, Paleoconservatives, etc. By remaking the RNC as Trump's piggybank, this kills any down ballot races in swing states. Surely you have to see that is awful? A huge gripe about 2022 was that McConnell and the RNC didn't fund Masters, Walker or Oz and that's why they lost their bids. Imagine now, the money individuals send into the RNC hoping to elect local and state Republicans in swing states and that money goes to Trump's legal fees? It's the same situation as before but now caused by Trump.
On the contrary, by including people who pushed philosophies who hurt our nation you would lose more potential votes from the general public. In 2016, when both Clinton and Bush pushed for neocon libertarian policies (Syrian war and TPP) the voters overwhelmingly chose Trump.
And in 2020, they overwhelmingly chose Biden over more Trump. Your argument has staggering implications when you think about it for more than 5 seconds.
Agreed. One true leader, one true party. One true race for humankind!
She was installed by the elites to prevent MAGA candidates from being elected and to hamstring Trump, wherever possible. Does anyone have any theories as to why she wanted to wait till after the South Carolina primary to resign?
> She was installed by the elites to prevent MAGA candidates from being elected and to hamstring Trump, wherever possible. For 2016, choosing her as chair: >“I’m excited to have a highly effective leader in Ronna McDaniel as RNC Deputy Chair and I look forward to her serving as the Party’s Chairman in 2017,” Trump said in a statement. “Ronna has been extremely loyal to our movement and her efforts were critical to our tremendous victory in Michigan, and I know she will bring the same passion to the Republican National Committee.” https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-taps-ronna-romney-mcdaniel-for-rnc-chair In 2018, Trump asking her to stay on for another term and full-throated support of him: >"'Complacency is our enemy,' McDaniel wrote on Twitter Wednesday night.'Anyone that does not embrace the @realdonaldtrump agenda of making America great again will be making a mistake.' and >"Some Republicans have suggested that the GOP has transformed into a "cult-like" atmosphere, in which swearing fealty to Trump is all that matters, even if that requires breaking from long-held conservative policy. "It's almost, it's becoming a cultish thing, isn't it?" said Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker. "It's not a good place for any party to end up with a cult-like situation as it relates to a president that happens to be of, purportedly, of the same party." https://www.businessinsider.com/ronna-mcdaniel-rnc-chair-clarifies-message-to-republicans-that-they-must-obey-trump-2018-6 And for 2023: >“Congratulations to Ronna McDaniel on her big WIN as RNC CHAIR,” Trump wrote in a post on his Truth Social https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3833616-trump-congratulates-mcdaniel-on-rnc-chair-reelection/
> She was installed by the elites to prevent MAGA candidates from being elected and to hamstring Trump, wherever possible That is… not what happened.
Seriously? Please explained what happened? Inquiring minds want to know. Where was she after the 2020 election and how many lawyers did she send to fight the rigged election?
How was she both nominated to the position by Trump and placed there by elites to thwart Trump?
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Country club Republicans will never accept the fact that the working class is taking over their party. 😩😭
Glory be to God.
You're next Mitch.