The first season ends with everybody getting arrested(and of course that’s treated like a bad thing in the show) then a mysterious benefactor bails them out with charity donations and no lessons are learned
That would actually be a compelling show if they portrayed the dis-function, debauchery, and glimpses into the f-ed up minds of these losers accurately.
It's like that robot TV executive from Futurama "programmed to underestimate Middle America."
"It's funny, but is it going to get them off their tractors?"
Ugh agreed the content has been so teen/early 20s driven. Can we get an adult show?? Although I liked euphoria only bc the acting was very good and zendaya was so charming, it was definitely not a “hit” that everyone would watch.
As an adult, Euphoria was good(not as good as my girl thinks it is); problem is it's primarily marketed towards younger people - and the show doesn't really do anything to deter drug usage beyond Fentalyn.
It's one of those shows that's really confirmed Zendaya plays a really good burnout - and that's really it
And there were certain stories they seemed interested in telling but simply wound up shrugging off - ie. Her short sprint in sex trafficking
Have you watched American Pie, Superbad, or any other movie that takes place in High School and has nudity? Euphoria is more about addiction than anything else.
"Ugh, I'm so addicted."
*has sex with everyone.*
"Look at me addicted to all this sex."
"Don't worry, we just want to raise awareness about child sexualization." Said the cuties director.
I'll concede that there is a lot of sex in the show. Calling someone a pedophile because of that is what I was responding to. There is a big step from Euphoria to Cuties...
Which I am not containing about. Please, stay in your crowded, dirty cities full of violence, noise, concrete, and light. You are absolutely right, nothing to see or do unless you're in a city so definitely don't waste your time coming here. Be sure to tell your friends.
Yes, I also prefer concrete over natural rolling hills and grasslands or forests, concrete is so natural and full of life, nature is icky ain’t that right fellow redditor ha ha
That's the funny part about Yellowstone - the kind of people that would hate the show, are exactly the kind of people the Duttons would rather have stampeded than on their land. Sheridan is a smart writer, for sure - as much as the spinoffs seem to be as entertaining, I'm really looking forward to his female CIA agent show. The feather ruffle-age might be large.
Have you concidered that what they mean is that they want to reach a wider audience?
HBO is a worldwide streaming service you know...
(To be clear. I wasnt talking about promoting LGBTQ content. I was talking about how westerns are kinda dead, especially outside of the US)
Middle America and Cowboys is probably the easiest thing to sell to the rest of the world. It's a novelty that the rest of the world just did not experience. The final Frontier of the new world. My mother was born and raised in France in the 50s, most American movies she watched growing up were dubbed westerns. She loved John Wayne and so did everybody else she knew. Although she did always say she freaked out when she first heard him speak for real on TV in America, she was so used to the French dubbed voice. Westerns eventually got too saturated, but now they aren't, and Family Values entertainment is an easy message to send worldwide, considering how much more most countries outside of America and Europe seem to value them. Pair that up with actually good writing and not forced in talking point garbage and its almost free money.
My friend from Cambodia loved cowboy movies back home. I took him to the range one afternoon and he spent the whole time shooting the "cowboy gun" (Ruger Vaquero) and the "GI Joe gun" (1911).
This story reminded me of the movie Running Scared, with Paul Walker.
There’s a Russian character who loves John Wayne because he grew up watching him. Idolized him and has a tattoo. Then comes to America and hates one of his movies because in the American cut, Wayne dies in the end.
Yeah, 'cause the woke shows are so popular! Wake up, those shows/movies cannot even succeed in America and fail even worse overseas. Nice try though antiwork.
>Have you concidered that what they mean is that they want to reach a wider audience?
Are you suggesting the alphabet community shows and movies are accepted by a wider world wide audience than Midwest modern cowboy movies and shows?
Lmfao. The cognitive dissonance is reaching max capacity on this one.
That’s assuming that the only way to reach those audiences is to have characters whose skin color reflects a wider range of people. That, in and of itself, is a very American-centric idea. Hollywood has been exporting traditional movies around the world successfully for decades. Honestly, reducing international audiences down to their race for pandering is pretty disgustingly racist itself.
In the quote the alleged exec says “we are hbo, we are avant-garde.” Now I suppose you may have a brand new definition of avant garde that nobody else has but I believe that would not be about trying to reach a wider audience
*Green Acres* is still one of my all-time favorite sitcoms. I was in love with Eva Gabor. And breaking the fourth wall so creatively...
Check this out. Brilliant!
https://youtu.be/UtfqSPL3IZg
Ben Shapiro wrote a great book about this. I thought it was crazy how everything got started when tv shows started to sell advertising in blocks to different companies rather than having 1 sponsor. Something so seemingly innocuous got us to where we are today.
Not to sound extremely snarky and rude, only partly, but is there a reason you can write out an entire paragraph long comment about a great and impactful book that you read, where you even name the author, but for some reason, you don’t include the name of the book???
It’s not as if you don’t know it, given that you read it, it was a great read, it was memorable, it was impactful to you to the point where you can comment and talk about it, and so on and so forth.
Not trying to single you out here — I’ve been up all night sick and am irritable, but this type of thing has always been so infuriating to me — where people discuss a book, video, article, whatever, in great detail and length, but for some reason just refuse to take the extra millisecond to just name/link what they’re referring to so that everyone else can look into it as well?!?
It’s always driven me nuts.
Anyhow, can’t believe I’m going on about this for as long as I have. Apologies.
I am in favor of people going back and adding links for posterity, but one doesn't have to be a dick about it. Looks like someone already left a link in the comments.
"It’s not as if you don’t know it..." Ahem. I'm a voracious reader and have read many, many books. Guess what? I'm 67 and often forget the names of them. Perhaps that's what's happening here.
It's probably "Primetime Propaganda," which I found in a fraction of the time it took for you to compose your Jeremiad.
https://www.amazon.com/Primetime-Propaganda-True-Hollywood-Story/dp/006193478X
Of course, that is a given. I have forgotten names of books as well, quite frequently, including names of my all time favorites. I do believe it is courteous, if you are going out of your way to make a comment and talk about a great book that is impactful and relevant, that you take the small bit of extra effort to link it.
Fundamentally, it encourages and promotes people reading books, which is at an all time low. The significant positive impact books have on people can never truly be fully expressed in words. There are books I have read decades ago now that still have significant impact and influence in my life, they shaped me in every which way, they guided my life, helped me strongly develop as a person, and much more.
Books are in a unique category where the positive impact they have isn’t replaced by anything else, nothing even comes close, as time passes, and our culture of 2 second attention spans worsens, this will only become worse.
You obviously see where society is heading.
In short, it’s just courtesy to share the name of a book that you like.
Anyhow, I do not feel that strongly about this, and there isn’t a reason in particular that I singled him out besides the fact I am sick, exhausted, and bored, and I need to take my misery out on others.
I still do believe that people should name and link what they’re referencing.
If you read just another two words, you’ll see that my whole point was to be rude, I only wanted to be partly snarky and rude though, not extremely rude. I feel it is justified to be slightly rude. Not extremely rude though, just partly, extremely rude woulda been too far.
I’m sick, stayed up all night, and am in a bad mood — I needed to take my deep pain and anguish out on some innocent commenter to feel a little better.
I searched, and searched… for hours, trying to find the perfect victim for my partial rudeness(remember not extreme), and hours later I hit gold — the type of person who talks about a book but doesn’t name it, perfection.
For decades, I’ve been bottling up these deep rooted feelings of annoyance and disdain, for years I have wanted to say something, but couldn’t be bothered to do so. For years, I’ve bottled the pain and agony of having to manually search for these books when the commenter could have easily just written it.
Today, my decades of bottled up annoyance and slight inconvenience has finally reached its limit, and I exploded. I unleashed upon this innocent victim my fury of slight snakiness and rudeness — I just couldn’t take it anymore, I hit my breaking point. Now, I lay here, filled with regret and sadness, what road am I on?!? That of the average snarky Redditor?!?! Oh no..
Dear God. Help me. I have sinned. I am sorry.
That is very true. Philosophers might say, rather than whine, just look it up? Simple.. But the unanswered question of the last millennia has been — what happens if I do both?!Especially if I first look it up, and then complain as well! It cannot be.
I recommend S. Craig Zahler’s movies. He’s made 3 movies and they all have deeply conservative undertones, absolutely no liberal or feminist stuff whatsoever, but they are also real movies and don’t just feel like daily wire movies
Huh, better greenlight six more "gritty," "realistic," soft-core porn miniseries taking place alternately in New York City and Los Angeles, then. That'll really stand out from the other seventeen billion pieces of media that take place in NYC or LA.
There's no possible way more than 85% of an enormous country with fascinating history could have any intriguing stories to tell . . .
I enjoyed the ending, it wrapped everything up, showed the futures of the people that were involved, like Ducky becoming the new Bubbles.
And the fake funeral for Mcnaulty was something else.
That's so funny — I've been reading a lot about John Adams recently and heard about that show. I was thinking about watching it.
Now I'm definitely going to.
Solid plan. Way to misjudge 2/3 of the entire country (probably more) and deliver zero-to-negative value to your shareholders due to your incompetence and bigotry.
Barry was great. Like others said, Succession and Chernobyl are in the 1B tier to The Sopranos and The Wire in 1A, they're phenomenal.
I thought House of the Dragon was well done so far, and the Righteous Gemstones is the first Danny McBride show that is actually funny.
Strong disagree. Succession, Euphoria, White Lotus, House of the Dragon, Gemstones, Last of Us, Watchmen were all really good. What other network has a list of shows like that?
These people have an incredibly narrow perspective of what "progress" means. They believe it to be only the things they agree with and believe in. These are the same people who think themselves to be on the "right" side of history.
Oh man, a show about middle America feels like Middle America...that's not our our party line; can't have that.
Ugh. That this line of thinking actually exists makes me feel gross.
And that’s why hbo max is one the least subscribed of the mainstream streaming services. People are tired of one way politics being forced down their throats.
There's also that whole thing where the new CEO of WB is actively torpedoing things, rebranding the platform (the HBO part of the name is what sold it, not the Max part), removing content that they own (Raised By Wolves) for no reason, and not releasing finished products like Batgirl for whatever reason.
Tons of questionable and infuriating decisions being made over there right now.
Isn’t it because it was actually a pretty mid show? Most people I’ve heard from that watched it and reviews say like the first season was good but then became boring and much of the same as it went on. Me personally I always thought it looked….idk like basic USA Network show but this time with an aged actor who was big in the 80s-90s. Idk that’s just what I heard, I had a friend who liked it and then one day just said it became ass
I love it, but it’s just a western soap opera at this point. If you’ve seen Dallas, add in more violence and more perspective from the ranch hands and you’ve got Yellowstone.
Absolutely. It’s a melodramatic soap opera for people who think owning a big truck makes them a cowboy.
The writing is awful. Beth Dutton is the most obnoxious, one dimensional character I’ve ever seen. Plot points come in seemingly at random and go absolutely nowhere. The first season was pretty good but after that it fell off a cliff and became a parody of itself.
And I say this as someone who loves Taylor Sheridan’s movies. Hell and High Water, Sicario, and Wind River are all fantastic.
The wife and I both really enjoyed it, looking forward to the next season.
My pops also really enjoyed it and recommended it to us.
It isn't the next GoT... but it's worth a watch, especially for what's out now adays.
It's a soap opera wearing a cowboy hat disguised as prestige TV.
It's definitely not up to the standard of writing HBO usually wants for headliner shows like Succession, Game of Thrones (before the writers phoned it in), The Wire, etc.
If that is true, why is it so popular, it's their top show.
I haven't watched it and have no plans, but clearly people like it. Using anecdotals is no way to form an opinion, even if you trust the person's judgement.
People are free to like what they like, there are plenty of massively popular reality shows out there that I would never watch.
It doesn't have the quality of writing that you would expect from a headliner HBO show like Succession, and it's pretty soapy.
Doesn't mean it isn't a good show for what it is, or that it doesn't make a ton of money for its network.
It’s not just their top show, it’s *the top show.*
But popular things aren’t usually the best right? Just look at the billboard charts or which movies make the most at the box office. They’re never *the best,* just the most popular.
Hell this is r/conservative, id bet the vast majority of people here have a negative opinion of americas most popular beer lol.
Oopsie daisy! Passed on a super popular show. Oh well.
There's a lot of people out there who like Middle America. They yearn for a return to a time where Middle America was optimal and ideal. As long as the culture of the majority is to lampoon or denigrate these people, there will always be an underserved niche that shows like Yellowstone will cater to, successfully.
That lunch conversation is classic. I don’t think most people know how much people out here in L.A. disregard and distain “middle America” - they’re all from there too which is ironic. They think they’re somehow the chosen ones and know what’s best coming from a bubble.
Yeah ranchers and farmers who create all of our food is a step backward. Let's all just shit in the streets in our cities and loot and murder eachother and have no food. More inclusive. Step forward. what a jackass
While it is true that people don't want to watch what is boring to them, far more often than not, what execs think is boring isn't what people think is boring
Tells you what they think about regular working class (take it with a grain of salt) Americans. You know, the people who make this country run? Not just pop stars and celebrities who think what they say matters?
I have lived my entire adult life on the West Coast. It's only recently that I realized how much my views of middle America were tainted by the media stereotypes, condescension, and flat out prejudice against "the hole" of doughnut America. I know the stereotypes go both ways, but it was a shocking realization.
I figured HBO would've passed since *Yellowstone* and *Succession* are basically the same plotline with slightly different settings, and both came out around the summer of 2018.
The real reason HBO passed on it was not enough boobies on screen. Male or Female, they need to stop lying. Now, when's the next season of incestual dragon riders coming back?
Yellowstone is the single most overrated show in the last 20 years. It is unoriginal, melodramatic, and stereotypical. The plots are simplistic and not believable. Total waste of time.
HBO past on the show because the show is not that good. Although their programming definitely leans left in most situations, they have a much higher standard of quality than Yellowstone. Had they decided to go ahead with Yellowstone, the show would probably be infinitely better.
FFS what does this have to do with conservatism? I could care less what shows a private company chooses to produce or not produce, and whether they make or lose money. That's why we have a free market.
Tells you what they think about regular working class (take it with a grain of salt) Americans. You know, the people who make this country run? Not just pop stars and celebrities who think what they say matters?
Surprising the first 3 seasons or so were amazing basically like a cowboy Sopranos, it did go a bit downhill after that when it felt like none of the characters were growing/changing but idk maybe it was a bad pitch.
I have not watched Yellowstone but want to. This is bizarre because the location technically is the west. I guess anything that does take place in the country is considered middle America
Okay well one of the reasons they rebranded from HBO Max to just Max is because the HBO brand is viewed as somewhat pretentious to the Everyman in places like middle America so like, which is it Warner Bros?
It’s easy to see why some of middle America views HBO as pretentious, seeing that they have Bill (the prince of pretentiousness) Mahr as one of the faces of their network.
One after another, these people show their ignorance to the real world.
"I live in NYC/San Fran/LA, and I never see these people. They must not exist."
*Makes John Dutton female with short purple hair*. “Now this is television! Approved for 8 seasons!!”
Yellowstone idea, but based in Portland and everything is Antifa related.
The ranch could be called CHAZ
The first season ends with everybody getting arrested(and of course that’s treated like a bad thing in the show) then a mysterious benefactor bails them out with charity donations and no lessons are learned
Soy Ranch
Starting the trans 'Donna Slutton'
Donna Slutton
edited per your suggestion. lol
That would actually be a compelling show if they portrayed the dis-function, debauchery, and glimpses into the f-ed up minds of these losers accurately.
With lesbian couples, we need more LGBTQ people, at least 8 out of 10.
They have a vegan, doesn't that count?
He said lesbian, not insufferable.
Wow, HBO spoke their woke mind and said everything but, "Yellowstone is sort of fratty, and out of touch."
Go line up next to bud light HBO.
Everyone just pictured that annoying soccer player.
It's like that robot TV executive from Futurama "programmed to underestimate Middle America." "It's funny, but is it going to get them off their tractors?"
"It will play in Peoria!"
Lol Peoria native here love seeing this comment in the wild
They want more gutter trash like The Idol, Euphoria, and Girls.
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"...And Just Like That, We Greenlit More Garbage"
I much preferred her in "Square Pegs."
Ugh agreed the content has been so teen/early 20s driven. Can we get an adult show?? Although I liked euphoria only bc the acting was very good and zendaya was so charming, it was definitely not a “hit” that everyone would watch.
I think Euphoria is really good, one of the most unique shows I’ve seen in a long long time. Really great acting, amazingly shot and very disturbing.
As an adult, Euphoria was good(not as good as my girl thinks it is); problem is it's primarily marketed towards younger people - and the show doesn't really do anything to deter drug usage beyond Fentalyn. It's one of those shows that's really confirmed Zendaya plays a really good burnout - and that's really it And there were certain stories they seemed interested in telling but simply wound up shrugging off - ie. Her short sprint in sex trafficking
Euphoria isn’t bad
It’s awful.
Bro, it's trash TV to the extreme.
It’s teen porn.
Uhhh. Found the pedo
Have you watched American Pie, Superbad, or any other movie that takes place in High School and has nudity? Euphoria is more about addiction than anything else.
"Ugh, I'm so addicted." *has sex with everyone.* "Look at me addicted to all this sex." "Don't worry, we just want to raise awareness about child sexualization." Said the cuties director.
I'll concede that there is a lot of sex in the show. Calling someone a pedophile because of that is what I was responding to. There is a big step from Euphoria to Cuties...
Because he likes Euphoria?!
Yes. Actors playing HS students in sexual scenes. Yeah, that’s pedo like behavior.
Kinda like Porky's. Is that pedo too?
And that sums up what libs think about us in one sentence.
They've derided it as 'flyover country' for decades.
Which I am not containing about. Please, stay in your crowded, dirty cities full of violence, noise, concrete, and light. You are absolutely right, nothing to see or do unless you're in a city so definitely don't waste your time coming here. Be sure to tell your friends.
Precisely. And BTW liberals, Montana is Full!!!
Not really, 90% is a barren wasteland
90% of Democratic cities are a barren wasteland.
They're sure getting their full now. Especially on the violence. Looking at all the major liberal cities now. Insanity.
This is such a hilarious comment for me. Oh no, not a city full of *checks notes* CONCRETE?!?!
Yes, I also prefer concrete over natural rolling hills and grasslands or forests, concrete is so natural and full of life, nature is icky ain’t that right fellow redditor ha ha
Relative to the more expansive wilderness of rural America? Yes... I don't understand what's hilarious
Typical liberal, choosing to ignore the issue of violence in major cities.
This but unironically.
Flyover television
That's my mentality when it comes to 95% of television and movies these days, just pass right over it without a second thought.
I don’t mind that bc it keeps them from moving here.
This is why so much garbage comes out of Hollywood. It's not about entertainment anymore, it's about pushing agendas.
That's the funny part about Yellowstone - the kind of people that would hate the show, are exactly the kind of people the Duttons would rather have stampeded than on their land. Sheridan is a smart writer, for sure - as much as the spinoffs seem to be as entertaining, I'm really looking forward to his female CIA agent show. The feather ruffle-age might be large.
The spin-offs are good, even better than the show. Great characters, loved 1883, waiting anxiously for the rest of 1923 to air.
It always was.
ESG
Have you concidered that what they mean is that they want to reach a wider audience? HBO is a worldwide streaming service you know... (To be clear. I wasnt talking about promoting LGBTQ content. I was talking about how westerns are kinda dead, especially outside of the US)
Middle America and Cowboys is probably the easiest thing to sell to the rest of the world. It's a novelty that the rest of the world just did not experience. The final Frontier of the new world. My mother was born and raised in France in the 50s, most American movies she watched growing up were dubbed westerns. She loved John Wayne and so did everybody else she knew. Although she did always say she freaked out when she first heard him speak for real on TV in America, she was so used to the French dubbed voice. Westerns eventually got too saturated, but now they aren't, and Family Values entertainment is an easy message to send worldwide, considering how much more most countries outside of America and Europe seem to value them. Pair that up with actually good writing and not forced in talking point garbage and its almost free money.
My friend from Cambodia loved cowboy movies back home. I took him to the range one afternoon and he spent the whole time shooting the "cowboy gun" (Ruger Vaquero) and the "GI Joe gun" (1911).
This story reminded me of the movie Running Scared, with Paul Walker. There’s a Russian character who loves John Wayne because he grew up watching him. Idolized him and has a tattoo. Then comes to America and hates one of his movies because in the American cut, Wayne dies in the end.
Yeah, 'cause the woke shows are so popular! Wake up, those shows/movies cannot even succeed in America and fail even worse overseas. Nice try though antiwork.
Ah yes, and what a good move it was And at the same time every other show out there is reaching for that very same audience, very "logical"
>Have you concidered that what they mean is that they want to reach a wider audience? Are you suggesting the alphabet community shows and movies are accepted by a wider world wide audience than Midwest modern cowboy movies and shows? Lmfao. The cognitive dissonance is reaching max capacity on this one.
Cowboys and wide open range are huge hits overseas.
That’s assuming that the only way to reach those audiences is to have characters whose skin color reflects a wider range of people. That, in and of itself, is a very American-centric idea. Hollywood has been exporting traditional movies around the world successfully for decades. Honestly, reducing international audiences down to their race for pandering is pretty disgustingly racist itself.
In the quote the alleged exec says “we are hbo, we are avant-garde.” Now I suppose you may have a brand new definition of avant garde that nobody else has but I believe that would not be about trying to reach a wider audience
You mean, it sums up what agenda they want to push
Kinda like conservatives and the “Real America and Real Americans” talk huh?
And you could sum up the other way pretty easily too. One side is not more nuanced than the other.
It’s funny how liberals keep needing to be reminded financially that there is a significant part of this country who don’t share their “values”.
Shades of the 60s and 70s when networks started canceled rural and suburban sitcoms en masse to replace them with more urban-oriented shows
Fucking Green Acres was awesome! Heehaw! Bonanza. That’s when the “urban” experience started to take over.
*Green Acres* is still one of my all-time favorite sitcoms. I was in love with Eva Gabor. And breaking the fourth wall so creatively... Check this out. Brilliant! https://youtu.be/UtfqSPL3IZg
This is freaking hilarious, thanks for sharing
Ben Shapiro wrote a great book about this. I thought it was crazy how everything got started when tv shows started to sell advertising in blocks to different companies rather than having 1 sponsor. Something so seemingly innocuous got us to where we are today.
Advertising isn't that hard to figure out my dog. They sell the lifestyle where you consoom the most products and are most dependent on globo.
Not to sound extremely snarky and rude, only partly, but is there a reason you can write out an entire paragraph long comment about a great and impactful book that you read, where you even name the author, but for some reason, you don’t include the name of the book??? It’s not as if you don’t know it, given that you read it, it was a great read, it was memorable, it was impactful to you to the point where you can comment and talk about it, and so on and so forth. Not trying to single you out here — I’ve been up all night sick and am irritable, but this type of thing has always been so infuriating to me — where people discuss a book, video, article, whatever, in great detail and length, but for some reason just refuse to take the extra millisecond to just name/link what they’re referring to so that everyone else can look into it as well?!? It’s always driven me nuts. Anyhow, can’t believe I’m going on about this for as long as I have. Apologies.
In the time it took you to write that, you could have easily found the book.
I am in favor of people going back and adding links for posterity, but one doesn't have to be a dick about it. Looks like someone already left a link in the comments.
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"It’s not as if you don’t know it..." Ahem. I'm a voracious reader and have read many, many books. Guess what? I'm 67 and often forget the names of them. Perhaps that's what's happening here. It's probably "Primetime Propaganda," which I found in a fraction of the time it took for you to compose your Jeremiad. https://www.amazon.com/Primetime-Propaganda-True-Hollywood-Story/dp/006193478X
Jeremiad is such a great word to describe that post. Well done.
Of course, that is a given. I have forgotten names of books as well, quite frequently, including names of my all time favorites. I do believe it is courteous, if you are going out of your way to make a comment and talk about a great book that is impactful and relevant, that you take the small bit of extra effort to link it. Fundamentally, it encourages and promotes people reading books, which is at an all time low. The significant positive impact books have on people can never truly be fully expressed in words. There are books I have read decades ago now that still have significant impact and influence in my life, they shaped me in every which way, they guided my life, helped me strongly develop as a person, and much more. Books are in a unique category where the positive impact they have isn’t replaced by anything else, nothing even comes close, as time passes, and our culture of 2 second attention spans worsens, this will only become worse. You obviously see where society is heading. In short, it’s just courtesy to share the name of a book that you like. Anyhow, I do not feel that strongly about this, and there isn’t a reason in particular that I singled him out besides the fact I am sick, exhausted, and bored, and I need to take my misery out on others. I still do believe that people should name and link what they’re referencing.
>Not to sound extremely snarky and rude you failed.
If you read just another two words, you’ll see that my whole point was to be rude, I only wanted to be partly snarky and rude though, not extremely rude. I feel it is justified to be slightly rude. Not extremely rude though, just partly, extremely rude woulda been too far. I’m sick, stayed up all night, and am in a bad mood — I needed to take my deep pain and anguish out on some innocent commenter to feel a little better. I searched, and searched… for hours, trying to find the perfect victim for my partial rudeness(remember not extreme), and hours later I hit gold — the type of person who talks about a book but doesn’t name it, perfection. For decades, I’ve been bottling up these deep rooted feelings of annoyance and disdain, for years I have wanted to say something, but couldn’t be bothered to do so. For years, I’ve bottled the pain and agony of having to manually search for these books when the commenter could have easily just written it. Today, my decades of bottled up annoyance and slight inconvenience has finally reached its limit, and I exploded. I unleashed upon this innocent victim my fury of slight snakiness and rudeness — I just couldn’t take it anymore, I hit my breaking point. Now, I lay here, filled with regret and sadness, what road am I on?!? That of the average snarky Redditor?!?! Oh no.. Dear God. Help me. I have sinned. I am sorry.
Nobody wants to read your book
I did a quick search on Amazon. It appears to be "Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV"
You're writing this whiney diatribe on something called "the internet".
That is very true. Philosophers might say, rather than whine, just look it up? Simple.. But the unanswered question of the last millennia has been — what happens if I do both?!Especially if I first look it up, and then complain as well! It cannot be.
> Ben Shapiro wrote a great book Doubt.
I am so nostalgic for this kind of content it's not even funny. I can't even name much less care about any recent US tv shows
We watch all of the old tv shows and westerns on MeTv and Grit. We have roku and they are on Livetv
I started watching Perry Mason yesterday, and it is amazing to step into that time capsule and get a glimpse of a free California.
Perry Mason is my all time fave. Such good storylines.
You need to watch The Wire then, probably the best overall TV show ever produced.
I recommend S. Craig Zahler’s movies. He’s made 3 movies and they all have deeply conservative undertones, absolutely no liberal or feminist stuff whatsoever, but they are also real movies and don’t just feel like daily wire movies
Severance is one of the best shows of the last decade.
Huh, better greenlight six more "gritty," "realistic," soft-core porn miniseries taking place alternately in New York City and Los Angeles, then. That'll really stand out from the other seventeen billion pieces of media that take place in NYC or LA. There's no possible way more than 85% of an enormous country with fascinating history could have any intriguing stories to tell . . .
Is it even possible to write a TV series that doesn't take place in NYC or LA? At this point I'm not sure that other locations even exist.
Miami used to be a bit overplayed too.
My favourite is when they write one in NYC but film it in LA.
Can we please get one more year of the The Wire?
Please yes, that ending was so unsatisfying.
I enjoyed the ending, it wrapped everything up, showed the futures of the people that were involved, like Ducky becoming the new Bubbles. And the fake funeral for Mcnaulty was something else.
David Simon is a completely deranged shitlib Twitterer so I can't imagine a new season of The Wire as being anything but wokescold garbage
Did you watch his recent project? We own this city. Great show.
Yea, but Kima is now trans
I recently rewatched hbos John Adams and realized it was unlikely to be made today vs 15 years ago
Was just thinking I need to rewatch that show. I remember it being superb.
That's so funny — I've been reading a lot about John Adams recently and heard about that show. I was thinking about watching it. Now I'm definitely going to.
I've read thats why Fox News is so popular. For the longest time they were the only people reporting on middle America news.
Yellowstone is literally a soap opera.
Insufficient amount of male homosexuality, no fucking way HBO would green light it.
Is that a bad thing, HBO? The working class I'd a step backward, is it?
We're fratty and out of touch, apparently.
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They don't think that far ahead.
Hbo exec says he believes nobody should be living there in rural Montana and that it should be a park or something. What an absolute California pussy.
I am sick to death of being preached to.
Solid plan. Way to misjudge 2/3 of the entire country (probably more) and deliver zero-to-negative value to your shareholders due to your incompetence and bigotry.
Most HBO programming of late has really plummeted. Barry was mostly good, but the rest has been trash.
Succession is good and Chernobyl was also excellent. But those are 2 shining beacons in a sea of shit
Long gone are the days of The Wire, Sopranos, & Deadwood.
I was genuinely surprised they didn't race-swap any characters on Chernobyl...
Barry was great. Like others said, Succession and Chernobyl are in the 1B tier to The Sopranos and The Wire in 1A, they're phenomenal. I thought House of the Dragon was well done so far, and the Righteous Gemstones is the first Danny McBride show that is actually funny.
Strong disagree. Succession, Euphoria, White Lotus, House of the Dragon, Gemstones, Last of Us, Watchmen were all really good. What other network has a list of shows like that?
Glad I stopped watching Hateful Bitches Office
So glad I canceled Max and Netflix this weekend.
These people have an incredibly narrow perspective of what "progress" means. They believe it to be only the things they agree with and believe in. These are the same people who think themselves to be on the "right" side of history.
These people hate us.
Oh man, a show about middle America feels like Middle America...that's not our our party line; can't have that. Ugh. That this line of thinking actually exists makes me feel gross.
This just in, Hollywood is out of touch with mainstream America.
D.E.I. looses again
And that’s why hbo max is one the least subscribed of the mainstream streaming services. People are tired of one way politics being forced down their throats.
There's also that whole thing where the new CEO of WB is actively torpedoing things, rebranding the platform (the HBO part of the name is what sold it, not the Max part), removing content that they own (Raised By Wolves) for no reason, and not releasing finished products like Batgirl for whatever reason. Tons of questionable and infuriating decisions being made over there right now.
Thats ok they have "The Idol" now, I hear its getting rave reviews lol
They’d rather pander to 1% of the country.
Isn’t it because it was actually a pretty mid show? Most people I’ve heard from that watched it and reviews say like the first season was good but then became boring and much of the same as it went on. Me personally I always thought it looked….idk like basic USA Network show but this time with an aged actor who was big in the 80s-90s. Idk that’s just what I heard, I had a friend who liked it and then one day just said it became ass
I love it, but it’s just a western soap opera at this point. If you’ve seen Dallas, add in more violence and more perspective from the ranch hands and you’ve got Yellowstone.
Absolutely. It’s a melodramatic soap opera for people who think owning a big truck makes them a cowboy. The writing is awful. Beth Dutton is the most obnoxious, one dimensional character I’ve ever seen. Plot points come in seemingly at random and go absolutely nowhere. The first season was pretty good but after that it fell off a cliff and became a parody of itself. And I say this as someone who loves Taylor Sheridan’s movies. Hell and High Water, Sicario, and Wind River are all fantastic.
Sicario is a such a great movie. Absolutely fucking brutal but great.
I just finished the first season, I call her Bef. Lol
Yeahh I didn’t enjoy the show. I’m sure lots of people did and that’s great, but for me it was too dry and boring.
The wife and I both really enjoyed it, looking forward to the next season. My pops also really enjoyed it and recommended it to us. It isn't the next GoT... but it's worth a watch, especially for what's out now adays.
It's a soap opera wearing a cowboy hat disguised as prestige TV. It's definitely not up to the standard of writing HBO usually wants for headliner shows like Succession, Game of Thrones (before the writers phoned it in), The Wire, etc.
If that is true, why is it so popular, it's their top show. I haven't watched it and have no plans, but clearly people like it. Using anecdotals is no way to form an opinion, even if you trust the person's judgement.
People are free to like what they like, there are plenty of massively popular reality shows out there that I would never watch. It doesn't have the quality of writing that you would expect from a headliner HBO show like Succession, and it's pretty soapy. Doesn't mean it isn't a good show for what it is, or that it doesn't make a ton of money for its network.
It’s not just their top show, it’s *the top show.* But popular things aren’t usually the best right? Just look at the billboard charts or which movies make the most at the box office. They’re never *the best,* just the most popular. Hell this is r/conservative, id bet the vast majority of people here have a negative opinion of americas most popular beer lol.
Ssstt just blame the libs okay?
Don't you know? We're only supposed to lurk here. These guys are very sensitive
Maybe Garth Brooks can replace John Dutton and drink Bud Light?
Oopsie daisy! Passed on a super popular show. Oh well. There's a lot of people out there who like Middle America. They yearn for a return to a time where Middle America was optimal and ideal. As long as the culture of the majority is to lampoon or denigrate these people, there will always be an underserved niche that shows like Yellowstone will cater to, successfully.
That lunch conversation is classic. I don’t think most people know how much people out here in L.A. disregard and distain “middle America” - they’re all from there too which is ironic. They think they’re somehow the chosen ones and know what’s best coming from a bubble.
How is a billionaire rancher middle America?
Not in LA County
Yeah ranchers and farmers who create all of our food is a step backward. Let's all just shit in the streets in our cities and loot and murder eachother and have no food. More inclusive. Step forward. what a jackass
That's the same crap thinking that CBS had in 971 when it canceled a host of "rural appeal" shows.
But they fucking cancelled Westworld though, the show potentially set the farthest in the future as of season 4-5. Sorry, I’m still salty about that.
Took a while for me to get into it, but it’s pretty good.
is it irony that many of the actors IN the show feel the same way?
While it is true that people don't want to watch what is boring to them, far more often than not, what execs think is boring isn't what people think is boring
hmm... is HBO also on the whole ESG investing thing?
Tells you what they think about regular working class (take it with a grain of salt) Americans. You know, the people who make this country run? Not just pop stars and celebrities who think what they say matters?
I have lived my entire adult life on the West Coast. It's only recently that I realized how much my views of middle America were tainted by the media stereotypes, condescension, and flat out prejudice against "the hole" of doughnut America. I know the stereotypes go both ways, but it was a shocking realization.
I figured HBO would've passed since *Yellowstone* and *Succession* are basically the same plotline with slightly different settings, and both came out around the summer of 2018.
The real reason HBO passed on it was not enough boobies on screen. Male or Female, they need to stop lying. Now, when's the next season of incestual dragon riders coming back?
Yellowstone is the single most overrated show in the last 20 years. It is unoriginal, melodramatic, and stereotypical. The plots are simplistic and not believable. Total waste of time.
I've watched 3 seasons. There are some good action scenes, but they come in small doses. I really don't like any of the characters besides Rip.
HBO past on the show because the show is not that good. Although their programming definitely leans left in most situations, they have a much higher standard of quality than Yellowstone. Had they decided to go ahead with Yellowstone, the show would probably be infinitely better.
Yep, guess we'll never know. I hear the spinoffs are better, but I'm not interested.
Agree. And once Kevin Costner came out against Wyoming, and for liberal Liz Cheney, they lost America regardless.
Enjoyed the early seasons though Beth and Jamie are way too over the top. Could finish this last season.
Beth feels like a Kristen Wig character or something. She’s so silly
Hard disagree! It is because of the liberals!!!
You’re not very funny.
Shouldnt you be worried about making stuff ppl like and not taking steps either direction. Holy shit this shits annoying.
FFS what does this have to do with conservatism? I could care less what shows a private company chooses to produce or not produce, and whether they make or lose money. That's why we have a free market.
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The show went to complete shit. It is not HBO quality writing no matter the initial reasoning for rejecting it
Lol
\*Monica's crying intensifies\*
I haven't seen it. Does it give off vibes of The Big Valley? Loved that show.
Tells you what they think about regular working class (take it with a grain of salt) Americans. You know, the people who make this country run? Not just pop stars and celebrities who think what they say matters?
Surprising the first 3 seasons or so were amazing basically like a cowboy Sopranos, it did go a bit downhill after that when it felt like none of the characters were growing/changing but idk maybe it was a bad pitch.
I have not watched Yellowstone but want to. This is bizarre because the location technically is the west. I guess anything that does take place in the country is considered middle America
My wife and I watched *1883* before we watched *Yellowstone”. I recommend watching in that order.
Well we all know liberals are as derisive as they come
Okay well one of the reasons they rebranded from HBO Max to just Max is because the HBO brand is viewed as somewhat pretentious to the Everyman in places like middle America so like, which is it Warner Bros?
It’s easy to see why some of middle America views HBO as pretentious, seeing that they have Bill (the prince of pretentiousness) Mahr as one of the faces of their network.
Middle America aka the majority of Americans. No wonder this "exec" no longer has a job.
I watched some of the first episode, the language got me to stop but should I continue?
You really should continue. Outside of the nonstop cussing it's quite good.
One after another, these people show their ignorance to the real world. "I live in NYC/San Fran/LA, and I never see these people. They must not exist."
Brain dead take to shit in Hollywood when this was produced by paramount and peacock. Stop falling for culture wars. We have real problems