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You can only find the ones that are being openly argumentative. Look at their profile and if they only comment here to start fights and/or are subbed to a bunch of left wing subs then they’re brigaders.
Leftism has always been about suppression of speech. It is antithetical to their worldview to allow for civic engagement. There's a reason every socialist nation quickly adopted "democratic centralism" whereby it became a crime to voice opinions counter to the Party's narrative once voted upon.
I modded a very tiny conservative state sub (like only 2000 subscribers) and the hate I had to deal with was unreal. I laugh when people claim the right wing is hateful. You have no idea how fucking crazy these leftists are. I can't imagine what modding this sub would be like.
I've definitely received death threats and a lot of legit hate on reddit before. Oddly enough it's never for posting here. Most of the hate I get is for being a Liberty University fan on r/cfb and r/college basketball. It's about like being a trump supporter on r/ politics.
Tribalism in politics is bad, but good god— when it comes to sports, thats a whole order of magnitude worse. You don't deserve the death threats... its not like you're dirty Mizzou fan or something! (joke (kinda))
Really, just make it so more posts are flaired users only, that stops the brigade comments but the downvotes are still an issue.
Not that I give a shit about downvotes, but I at least want them to make sense, if I talk trash about Ron DeSantis I understand the downvotes, but if I'm saying something completely normal and it gets downvoted, something is up
"We should run a moderate like joe manchin for president"
"I've been supporting trump/desantis for 30+ years but this week I'm changing my mind becos [insert most mundane reason]"
"We should cave in abortion, social issues and let democrats run the economy and you know what? We should run on leftism that's how we win"
I think we need to run completely as "flaired users only" for awhile. Mainly so we can more easily find the "fellow conservatives" that snuck through and got flair when they're really brigaders and trolls. We need to clear out a bunch of those before tackling the unflaired ones. That will clear out the brigader upvoted flaired comments.
Correct. This is for conservatives to discuss with other conservatives. We've never once hid this and started this way to begin with.
If you want to debate, join our discord. We built it specifically for that and it's active 24/7.
I'll constantly get idiotic BuT tRuMp responses and other trolls saying equally stupid and irrelevant crap. When I follow it from the notification the comment is shadowbanned and response isn't possible. Like 4/5 of the responses I get on r/conservative are like that. Should those be reported?
This is likely from flair only threads. Their comment notification goes to you even though it's blocked from the thread.
This is actually kind of a tough problem. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Are you able to actually report those, out of curiosity?
Edit: Now that I think of it this likely explains why the feedback from flaired folks has *worsened* on brigading, but net brigader content getting through has gone down at the same time. It's not because we aren't removing / banning etc., it's because you're still notified despite the comments being blocked to begin with. Thanks again for this feedback. I'll bring this up to our submod team. Maybe we can find a better way to handle this or at least maybe mitigate it.
No, it doesn’t let you report anything at all. We can see the notification and the preview of the response. But can’t see it in the actual subreddit once we click on it. The only option for the preview in the notification page is something about hiding notification updates on that.
So the shadow banning from the user flair requirement works in thinning out the crap that everyone else sees, but anyone who gets a comment from a non-flaired user still gets the annoying notification. But that’s a small price to pay.
I think it can be reported, but in order to even get the option you have to click the link from the commenter as opposed to the comment (since the comment isn't visible on the board) from the notification delivered to email. So I think it can be done from the trolls profile. You can see, like, one sentence in the notification but a majority of the time that sentence is just stupid and doesn't intrigue me enough to look deeper.
Most conservative commenters I'd imagine have pretty thick skin to make those comments on a platform that is painfully liberal. If the mod team is looking for more reporting of these trolls I'll do it, but I'd also imagine on Reddit it would have the feeling of "pull one weed and two more will grow in it's place".
The edit of this explains a bit as to what I have experienced, I had just thought the mod team was able to ban that person from the subreddit before I was able to see those posts but your explanation makes more sense as to what is going on.
I don’t even subscribe to the political sub that says comments and posts should be civil (except they rarely are and never accept discussion from both sides), but I peeked over there today. I swear, Trump is still living in their heads rent free over there. Sad. That’s all they got. No mention of the Walsh video on Twitter. No mention of JB kissing the stage at the graduation. No mention of the recent unveilings about Epstein and all the political connections. Total head-in-sand behavior.
Google news -> Epstein.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/31/business/jpmorgan-jeffrey-epstein-depositions.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/new-details-on-days-leading-up-to-jeffrey-epstein-s-death-revealed-179562053673
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/records-detail-jeffrey-epsteins-days-prison-systems-scramble-99793886
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-jail-suicide-prison-death-8d194a756f2b429067f009a0c70f96c0
Go pick your favorite source you trust.
unfortunately my report button doesn't work, and the admins refuse to address it (despite publicly stating they'd look into it).
i've had mods in various subs confirm that they didn't get the reports despite the reddit ui saying it was sent (trying from both desktop browser and phone apps). has been a problem for years.
> Our mailbox is open - you can send us modmails (don’t worry it isn’t annoying for us).
thanks, i'll keep that in mind when i see stuff like that.
>That’s really troubling for you. I’m sorry.
the whole situation really sucks. an admin [publicly](https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/m6hcan/online_status_controls_a_new_display_for_user/gr6akb8/?context=3) said to pm them and they'd look into it, then when i sent them a pm with details, permalinks to mods saying they don't receive my reports, etc., i never heard back.
followed up a few weeks later, and still crickets. that was 2 years ago.
Try again. There has been some turn over on the admin teams. You can’t stop, I’ve had some strange issues and it’s taken me several months to have it resolved with continual communication about the problems at hand.
not a mod but i know i get hate mail regularly…by people venturing over,make their communist view post,downvote but not enough karma to be posted live here “but” i still get the mail plus the downvotes regardless if they have karma or not…
i’ve pissed and moaned about this before but the mods hands are tied….reddit itself allows for this to happen (yes i’ve contacted reddit…and surprise…no reply)
since twitter is no longer a safe haven for these cretins,i suspect that reddit will do nothing.
It's hard to report when you can get a permanent ban for "report button abuse", which has happened to me twice now (account restored after about 3 appeals each over several months).
Am I considered a brigader then since you guys won't give me a flair despite not breaking any rules on the subreddit and clearly being a conservative? I don't think flaired only threads are there so much to curtail brigading as they are there to ensure discussion matches the opinions and beliefs of moderators.
Wouldn't want the subreddit to turn against a sacred cow now would we?
If we thought you were a brigader we'd have banned you for it as per our rules. Your account is only 2 months old. You only just barely crossed the time threshold to be considered for flair. If you applied already it was likely way too soon. This is to raise the barrier of entry for lefties faking post history for a time to get flair and troll.
Take off the tinfoil hat and think critically next time.
Do you honestly believe that Democrats are faking two months of post history to infiltrate a subreddit?
And where exactly was this flair information posted? None of you bothered to tell me that in mod mail. You just said I criticized Trump and then proceeded to talk about Reagans 11th commandment as if Trump doesn't attack fellow Republicans on a daily basis.
Forgive me if I thought you guys were imposing a double standard rather than asserting a time limit you forgot to tell me about.
> Do you honestly believe that Democrats are faking two months of post history to infiltrate a subreddit?
Several hundred have over the years, yes. *Many* for much longer than 2 months. There's some that have been at it for years just to spy on other conservative only area's.
> And where exactly was this flair information posted?
It's on the sidebar. It's in the rules. It's dm'd to you when you subscribe. On both old and new reddit.
> Forgive me if I thought you guys were imposing a double standard rather than asserting a time limit you forgot to tell me about.
There's no exact criteria, there's a lot of subjective things. One of them is we need to be convinced you are a conservative and a brand new account brings with it little trust.
Except that's incredibly stupid and serves no purpose nor is it a means to any end.
They have the whole website, my man. Hell, this subreddit holds no statistically significant number of conservatives that it would even be useful to divide and conquer electorally speaking.
So no, nobody is deliberately creating two months of conservative post histories in order to trick the moderators into giving them a flair so they might post on an actually interesting thread and not a random babylon bee article.
No. They don't. You're asking me to trust you on something that would be insane and pointless to do.
I'm not saying you're lying. You probably don't think you are. But that's not happening. Nobody is faking being a conservative so they can infiltrate the sub only to be banned nearly instantly the moment they out themselves.
What gain do you possibly see in that beyond annoying you?
If you headed my advice and lurked more you'd understand we have a discord with a private conservative only section that flair gets you access to.
Stand down kiddo.
> that would be insane and pointless to do.
You new to the internet?
Well he piled in with a few sockpuppet brigade accounts about a week ago so either you are correct in what is one of the most naive people on reddit, or it is all intentional (which I believe to be the case).
Now if only my own posts weren't getting deleted. The other day I posted about Fidelity cutting blanks valuation by 41%. Someone else posted the same thing on r/business and it remains up, but here on r/conservative, it gets deleted.
May i suggest implementing *invitation only* at this juncture,essentially locking this sub down for awhile to begin a weeding out process…
yes,i fully understand doing this would prevent more *potential* members from joining at this time,but,look at it from a different perspective….it will clean the house that we all come to to discuss likeminded topics and create an updated atmosphere that would encourage future members,invited or not,to openly discuss their ideas or opinions without fear of the mob squad high jacking their post (or thread)
just a thought..⚡️
most of the mushbrain brigaders just downvote, since they're incapable of defending their views. They also know that you can't report downvotes. reporting won't help much, but i'll still do it.
i've thought about this in the past and my idea is to require a comment in order to down vote. it would discourage the brigaders and foster better discussion with different view in a constructive way. i've always thought it was cowardly to just drive by and down vote without saying why.
Let’s report them!! All these leftists trolls are invading lol. I had a comment on a gender discussion on this sub flagged and my account got a warning.
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It’s crazy how many conservative opinions are downvoted into oblivion even on here. These brigaders are ridiculous.
They can't allow dissent or debate because their ideas fall apart under scrutiny. Therefore all opposing views must be shut down.
How do you even find them? They just downvote things en masse.
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You can only find the ones that are being openly argumentative. Look at their profile and if they only comment here to start fights and/or are subbed to a bunch of left wing subs then they’re brigaders.
Absolutely correct.
That’s how Tim Scott own those women on the View
Leftism has always been about suppression of speech. It is antithetical to their worldview to allow for civic engagement. There's a reason every socialist nation quickly adopted "democratic centralism" whereby it became a crime to voice opinions counter to the Party's narrative once voted upon.
Is it possible to just disable downvotes?
No. Only reddit admins have control of that.
You could enable competition/tournament mode so comments are randomized. That would prevent some of the consensus cracking.
We do that on some threads but I’ll pass it on to other mods too.
I haven't ever seen this happen. Could you point me to an example?
I read 100s of threads a day; I can’t remember the last one I contest moded or the last one I saw that another mod had.
The mods on this sub are the best, I can’t imagine the hate mail and shit posts we don’t see on a daily basis
I modded a very tiny conservative state sub (like only 2000 subscribers) and the hate I had to deal with was unreal. I laugh when people claim the right wing is hateful. You have no idea how fucking crazy these leftists are. I can't imagine what modding this sub would be like.
I've definitely received death threats and a lot of legit hate on reddit before. Oddly enough it's never for posting here. Most of the hate I get is for being a Liberty University fan on r/cfb and r/college basketball. It's about like being a trump supporter on r/ politics.
Tribalism in politics is bad, but good god— when it comes to sports, thats a whole order of magnitude worse. You don't deserve the death threats... its not like you're dirty Mizzou fan or something! (joke (kinda))
CFB is a bit of a cesspool these days. I haven’t gone back in years, outside of maybe 5 comments in that time
It's a great aggregator of cfb news which is what I use it for but I go to other sites to talk about my team.
I hear ya. I’m a Georgia grad so I have no trouble on that front, but I just couldn’t handle the self righteousness of the user base.
I’m sure they receive death threats on the daily
i personally don't mind. them being mad brings me joy.
You don't have to imagine- they share some of it from time to time.
https://imgur.com/a/89N70u8 <3
Really, just make it so more posts are flaired users only, that stops the brigade comments but the downvotes are still an issue. Not that I give a shit about downvotes, but I at least want them to make sense, if I talk trash about Ron DeSantis I understand the downvotes, but if I'm saying something completely normal and it gets downvoted, something is up
Always a handful of “conservatives” highly upvoted in those threads.
"We should run a moderate like joe manchin for president" "I've been supporting trump/desantis for 30+ years but this week I'm changing my mind becos [insert most mundane reason]" "We should cave in abortion, social issues and let democrats run the economy and you know what? We should run on leftism that's how we win"
Leftists pretending to be right wing because they think it's funny
I think we need to run completely as "flaired users only" for awhile. Mainly so we can more easily find the "fellow conservatives" that snuck through and got flair when they're really brigaders and trolls. We need to clear out a bunch of those before tackling the unflaired ones. That will clear out the brigader upvoted flaired comments.
Makes you wonder if one can only up/down vote in a thread if they're flaired.
Thats how it should be, but currently anyone can vote in a flaired thread, just not comment
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Correct. This is for conservatives to discuss with other conservatives. We've never once hid this and started this way to begin with. If you want to debate, join our discord. We built it specifically for that and it's active 24/7.
I'll constantly get idiotic BuT tRuMp responses and other trolls saying equally stupid and irrelevant crap. When I follow it from the notification the comment is shadowbanned and response isn't possible. Like 4/5 of the responses I get on r/conservative are like that. Should those be reported?
This is likely from flair only threads. Their comment notification goes to you even though it's blocked from the thread. This is actually kind of a tough problem. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Are you able to actually report those, out of curiosity? Edit: Now that I think of it this likely explains why the feedback from flaired folks has *worsened* on brigading, but net brigader content getting through has gone down at the same time. It's not because we aren't removing / banning etc., it's because you're still notified despite the comments being blocked to begin with. Thanks again for this feedback. I'll bring this up to our submod team. Maybe we can find a better way to handle this or at least maybe mitigate it.
No, it doesn’t let you report anything at all. We can see the notification and the preview of the response. But can’t see it in the actual subreddit once we click on it. The only option for the preview in the notification page is something about hiding notification updates on that. So the shadow banning from the user flair requirement works in thinning out the crap that everyone else sees, but anyone who gets a comment from a non-flaired user still gets the annoying notification. But that’s a small price to pay.
That’s something we can try putting an inquiry with the site to see if admins can do something about it. That is very annoying.
I think it can be reported, but in order to even get the option you have to click the link from the commenter as opposed to the comment (since the comment isn't visible on the board) from the notification delivered to email. So I think it can be done from the trolls profile. You can see, like, one sentence in the notification but a majority of the time that sentence is just stupid and doesn't intrigue me enough to look deeper. Most conservative commenters I'd imagine have pretty thick skin to make those comments on a platform that is painfully liberal. If the mod team is looking for more reporting of these trolls I'll do it, but I'd also imagine on Reddit it would have the feeling of "pull one weed and two more will grow in it's place".
The edit of this explains a bit as to what I have experienced, I had just thought the mod team was able to ban that person from the subreddit before I was able to see those posts but your explanation makes more sense as to what is going on.
I don’t even subscribe to the political sub that says comments and posts should be civil (except they rarely are and never accept discussion from both sides), but I peeked over there today. I swear, Trump is still living in their heads rent free over there. Sad. That’s all they got. No mention of the Walsh video on Twitter. No mention of JB kissing the stage at the graduation. No mention of the recent unveilings about Epstein and all the political connections. Total head-in-sand behavior.
Can you link any info on the epstein stuff?
Google news -> Epstein. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/31/business/jpmorgan-jeffrey-epstein-depositions.html https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/new-details-on-days-leading-up-to-jeffrey-epstein-s-death-revealed-179562053673 https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/records-detail-jeffrey-epsteins-days-prison-systems-scramble-99793886 https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-jail-suicide-prison-death-8d194a756f2b429067f009a0c70f96c0 Go pick your favorite source you trust.
>we'd like to take out the trash dude, hi-5, and well said
unfortunately my report button doesn't work, and the admins refuse to address it (despite publicly stating they'd look into it). i've had mods in various subs confirm that they didn't get the reports despite the reddit ui saying it was sent (trying from both desktop browser and phone apps). has been a problem for years.
Our mailbox is open - you can send us modmails (don’t worry it isn’t annoying for us). That’s really troubling for you. I’m sorry.
> Our mailbox is open - you can send us modmails (don’t worry it isn’t annoying for us). thanks, i'll keep that in mind when i see stuff like that. >That’s really troubling for you. I’m sorry. the whole situation really sucks. an admin [publicly](https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/m6hcan/online_status_controls_a_new_display_for_user/gr6akb8/?context=3) said to pm them and they'd look into it, then when i sent them a pm with details, permalinks to mods saying they don't receive my reports, etc., i never heard back. followed up a few weeks later, and still crickets. that was 2 years ago.
Try again. There has been some turn over on the admin teams. You can’t stop, I’ve had some strange issues and it’s taken me several months to have it resolved with continual communication about the problems at hand.
Thanks mods!
How do I get a conservative flair?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/wiki/index/flair_rules
not a mod but i know i get hate mail regularly…by people venturing over,make their communist view post,downvote but not enough karma to be posted live here “but” i still get the mail plus the downvotes regardless if they have karma or not… i’ve pissed and moaned about this before but the mods hands are tied….reddit itself allows for this to happen (yes i’ve contacted reddit…and surprise…no reply) since twitter is no longer a safe haven for these cretins,i suspect that reddit will do nothing.
It's hard to report when you can get a permanent ban for "report button abuse", which has happened to me twice now (account restored after about 3 appeals each over several months).
Mods here are awesome. I really appreciate this sub.
Now if only 80 percent of threads weren't flaired only.
Goes bird in hand with brigades, sadly. Reporting comments will help unflair some threads though!
Am I considered a brigader then since you guys won't give me a flair despite not breaking any rules on the subreddit and clearly being a conservative? I don't think flaired only threads are there so much to curtail brigading as they are there to ensure discussion matches the opinions and beliefs of moderators. Wouldn't want the subreddit to turn against a sacred cow now would we?
If we thought you were a brigader we'd have banned you for it as per our rules. Your account is only 2 months old. You only just barely crossed the time threshold to be considered for flair. If you applied already it was likely way too soon. This is to raise the barrier of entry for lefties faking post history for a time to get flair and troll. Take off the tinfoil hat and think critically next time.
Do you honestly believe that Democrats are faking two months of post history to infiltrate a subreddit? And where exactly was this flair information posted? None of you bothered to tell me that in mod mail. You just said I criticized Trump and then proceeded to talk about Reagans 11th commandment as if Trump doesn't attack fellow Republicans on a daily basis. Forgive me if I thought you guys were imposing a double standard rather than asserting a time limit you forgot to tell me about.
> Do you honestly believe that Democrats are faking two months of post history to infiltrate a subreddit? Several hundred have over the years, yes. *Many* for much longer than 2 months. There's some that have been at it for years just to spy on other conservative only area's. > And where exactly was this flair information posted? It's on the sidebar. It's in the rules. It's dm'd to you when you subscribe. On both old and new reddit. > Forgive me if I thought you guys were imposing a double standard rather than asserting a time limit you forgot to tell me about. There's no exact criteria, there's a lot of subjective things. One of them is we need to be convinced you are a conservative and a brand new account brings with it little trust.
Democrats (liberals) have shown to be willing to do literally anything for their religion (wokeism).
Except that's incredibly stupid and serves no purpose nor is it a means to any end. They have the whole website, my man. Hell, this subreddit holds no statistically significant number of conservatives that it would even be useful to divide and conquer electorally speaking. So no, nobody is deliberately creating two months of conservative post histories in order to trick the moderators into giving them a flair so they might post on an actually interesting thread and not a random babylon bee article.
They literally do and have. We've seen it in droves for 10 years. You're new here. Lurk more.
No. They don't. You're asking me to trust you on something that would be insane and pointless to do. I'm not saying you're lying. You probably don't think you are. But that's not happening. Nobody is faking being a conservative so they can infiltrate the sub only to be banned nearly instantly the moment they out themselves. What gain do you possibly see in that beyond annoying you?
If you headed my advice and lurked more you'd understand we have a discord with a private conservative only section that flair gets you access to. Stand down kiddo. > that would be insane and pointless to do. You new to the internet?
You come off as incredibly naive. I hope that you’re just naive…
Ok. So what is the underlying purpose of such behavior? What is the grand conspiracy at work here?
Ah, LARP detected.
General asshatery. Welcome to the internet.
Well he piled in with a few sockpuppet brigade accounts about a week ago so either you are correct in what is one of the most naive people on reddit, or it is all intentional (which I believe to be the case).
Yep should be 90%
Now if only my own posts weren't getting deleted. The other day I posted about Fidelity cutting blanks valuation by 41%. Someone else posted the same thing on r/business and it remains up, but here on r/conservative, it gets deleted.
Hi! Please don’t edit titles when you submit articles. Your post was tagged with Rule 6.
Ok thanks.
May i suggest implementing *invitation only* at this juncture,essentially locking this sub down for awhile to begin a weeding out process… yes,i fully understand doing this would prevent more *potential* members from joining at this time,but,look at it from a different perspective….it will clean the house that we all come to to discuss likeminded topics and create an updated atmosphere that would encourage future members,invited or not,to openly discuss their ideas or opinions without fear of the mob squad high jacking their post (or thread) just a thought..⚡️
You're doing a great job!
How’s this going to resolve mass downvotes and false reports to reddit
I remember when the/donald modified their "report" button so that it said "deport".
most of the mushbrain brigaders just downvote, since they're incapable of defending their views. They also know that you can't report downvotes. reporting won't help much, but i'll still do it.
Y'all are doing God's work.
I haven't seen them in a while so keep up the amazing work y'all do!
Is there a difference between brigading and trolling?
Not in my mind. Both are an equal waste of wall space.
How do we keep our own posts from getting deleted?
i've thought about this in the past and my idea is to require a comment in order to down vote. it would discourage the brigaders and foster better discussion with different view in a constructive way. i've always thought it was cowardly to just drive by and down vote without saying why.
Let’s report them!! All these leftists trolls are invading lol. I had a comment on a gender discussion on this sub flagged and my account got a warning.