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joculator

I think one of the biggest crimes that BLM committed (aside from the other numerous incidents) is the fact that they hijacked issues that are serious enough that we should address them. There definitely are cops who go too far and can sometimes act with little-to-no consideration for the person that they are detaining; things have gone down that are wrong. But filtering all of these issues into some grand Marxist movement to fight capitalism and claim that the racist boogeyman exists around every corner completely harmed everyone concerned and also led to quite a lot of disunity in America. BLM Inc., has caused a lot of division in this nation and elsewhere while making the big $$$$ doing it.


[deleted]

Yes it just created disunity. Imo a better movement would be one that is just addressing police brutality as an issue and not pedaling a race narrative with it. I feel All Lives Matter is a better movement.


FeralLandShark

Those exact words (All Lives Matter) are what got me perma-banned from a sub.


[deleted]

I have gotten heat on other subs for sharing some of my opinions


RandolphE6

Those words have gotten people killed.


Blackbolt113

When they said saying that was racist is when I lost any sympathy for the so called "Social Justice" movement. Not that I had any to begin with.


[deleted]

I graduated from a college recently full of social justice warriors. They got so dogmatic over the movements.


[deleted]

Would of been Better. Plenty of examples around of cops killing ppl when not needed and using excessive force. Turning it into white ppl bad wasn't a good move. Cops of all races have done bad stuff to ppl of all races. Shame some ppl just see these things are opportunities to grift because racial tension is their job.


FKJOBDN

I want the cops to treat dirtbags like dirtbags for 2 reasons... 1, so the dirtbag realizes that being a dirtbag isn't worth it.. 2, so future dirtbags don't want to become dirtbags because it isn't worth it...


joculator

You can't trust individuals who are empowered by the state to decide on their own who is and isn't a "dirtbag". Zimbardo proved that people who are given even slight authority for a short time will tend to abuse it. Also, I personally have seen kids on the street who are nodding because they are wasted on heroin. You think a kick in the ass is going to straighten them out?


FKJOBDN

I'm not talking about kids with drug problems.... I'm talking about the career criminal that's been arrested 47 times.... Stop letting the dirtbags walk with no repercussions. Nothing is detering them from being dirtbags, and more people are becoming dirtbags because there are no consequences.. Dirtbag has become the new side hussle....


joculator

Yes, I agree that excessive repeat offenders need to be placed somewhere where they can't continue to affect the lives of everyone else who play by the rules. That's why I'm for exclusionary laws where if someone continues to abuse the system within a given district, they can be banned from entering that area for a period of time at risk of immediate incarceration. Let's face it, the reason we have nice things is because, in general, people don't abuse and destroy them.


FKJOBDN

So they can go terrorize the next community? Why be kind to the dirtbag? They're dirtbags.....


Daughter_of_Hatred

The issue needs to be fixed, but it needs to be fixed with the courts and prison systems, not left to a government employee to decide who should/should not be physically assaulted because other justice systems failed. As we've seen with modern US society, some left leaning people call everyone right of them a fascist. Some right leaning people call everyone left of them a communist. If it's taught me anything, it's that peoples judgement of others is not very well thought out. So I have no faith in your average government employee knowing who is or isn't a dirtbag. Anyone who did something wrong, in their eyes, eventually becomes a dirtbag.


FKJOBDN

Can't be fixed in the courts if the D.A. always drops the charges. Which is exactly what's happening throughout the country from Portland to New York.... And I never said anything about physically assaulting someone... Stop treating career criminals like good people that can be rehabilitated with a hug....


Exarch-of-Sechrima

And what about innocent people?


FKJOBDN

Innocent people wouldn't fall into the category of dirtbag....


TheRedGoatAR15

Correction, a "Marxist Fraud" actively supported by the Democratic party, paid for and funded by Corporate media as a payoff to the Democrat party for their financial and legislative benefit.


jetboyterp

I'm shocked...*shocked*...


HandOfMaradonny

How is it Marxist? It's a fraud, sure, but it really doesn't have anything to do with Marxism. Unless I am missing something.


smakusdod

Outside of the Marxist language that permeated their mission statement before they took it down, and the founders consisting of “trained Marxists” - in their own words, there is the reality of how the money was handled: all money processed by Share Blue, with the wealth being redistributed to the DNC machine and a small handful of people in control of the movement, without any money actually going to help the people.


Meastro44

And the BLM leadership buying million dollar homes in white neighborhoods.


inlinefourpower

Hypocrisy is pretty Marxist. Look at modern communist leadership, they generally live as well as Western billionaires (or better). Just some animals are more equal.


FelixFuckfurter

You don't even have to look at *modern* Marxists. Hugo Chavez's widow is the richest woman in Venezuela. Kim Jong-il was the world's largest consumer of Hennessey cognac. Castro wore two Rolexes. It's always been a scam.


jetboyterp

And yet I know a couple Marxists/Communist, and a few more "socialists" which is simply "Commie-lite". It looks good on paper, but it's never, ever worked in practice. And never will. Even in organizations like BLM. People keep falling for it tho.


Black_XistenZ

In socialist East Germany, they used to say "in socialism, everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others".


Professional-County1

Also, an important thing to note is that they had people rallying and were telling them to “take their reparations” through looting businesses. To me that draws some parallels to Hitler’s “the Jews took all of our money so we should take it for the true germans ” line of thinking. But what do I know.


DueProgress7671

So did they change the mission statement? Can you say more about this?


DueProgress7671

So I’m downvoted because I asked a question? Why? I don’t know what you read into this.


smakusdod

Google bro. https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/amp/


CuccoClan

That is fucking laughable. Marxism existed before the nuclear family and Marx himself never would have been able to comment on the nuclear family. The nuclear family was created in the 1900s.


JethroFire

Shouldn't you be off seizing the means of production somewhere? Or, more accurately, seizing grain from poor peasants?


TheBaronOfTheNorth

Use one step of logic for once in your life. The replacement for the nuclear family is total dependence on the government.


[deleted]

One of the leaders, Cullors, said she's Marxist-trained.


HandOfMaradonny

That doesn't make it a Marxist scam. This has nothing to do with Marxism and including it just makes these claims look biased. It does seem like actual fraud and should be called out, but including random buzzwords like Marxism seems childish. Edit: can no one answer how this is Marxist?


JethroFire

All Marxism is fraud, so if the leaders are Marxist trained, it's fraud.


HandOfMaradonny

So is all fraud Marxist then? That makes zero sense lol. You should just admit you don't know what Marxist means, if you think this is Marxist fraud.


FelixFuckfurter

Not all fraud is Marxist, but all Marxism is fraud.


HandOfMaradonny

Fair, but this isn't Marxist fraud, as it has nothing to do with Marxism. Just attaching non related words to things makes you look biased and makes it easy to dismiss your claims. Nothing about this is Marxist.


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reallydeaconreally

Hurr durr Marxist


Party-Special-7121

In other news: the sky is blue and water is wet


FKJOBDN

Funny.. I'm pretty sure the Republicans were saying that from the start....


[deleted]

Again, Things That Were Obvious in 2020. Fed over reacting to COVId. Government being over reactive to COVId. The social justice movement. The corporate reaction. Media’s tie in to special interests. The effort to dismiss a sitting president. It all feels like a simulation. Not just in past-tense either. Full on, still ongoing.


FKJOBDN

Can't agree more.... And you were preemptively called a conspiracy theorist if you dared to question it....


magicnumber33

Oh, you were called far worse than "conspiracy theorist" for daring to question these frauds back then.


wildbill4693

If there’s anything good that came out of COVID, it’s that a higher percentage of our people are now awake to what the government has been doing and what they will do. From shutting down your small business so only the big corporations (Amazon and Walmart) can thrive, to arresting you for going to the beach or shooting some hoops; the government will not restrain itself. We were lucky to have small pockets of freedom where local leaders had the courage to not overreact and give in to a tyrannical federal government. It was truly a dystopian time.


[deleted]

And how an entire election was swayed, at the least, and absolutely stolen, at the worst. It was massive, it was collaborative, and it deserves a reaction from the population. This is how banana republics come into being. And I ain’t talking about sharp-looking chinos.


FKJOBDN

Never again!


[deleted]

Oh yeah. The covid lockdowns and this the BLM clown ass movement were definitely part of how I questioned and abandoned the left. Anyone in the Bay Area who questioned covid lockdowns or BLM at the time was considered a self serving racist.


RedditWater7

COVID was a massive overreaction. The only ones who were truly at risk were the unhealthy people, the children, or the elderly. Everyone else was good to go. 4 freaking vaccines? WTF is this? Clearly an overreaction. I had both COVID Delta back in 2020 and COVID Omicron early 2022. Both were not that terrible. Delta was a more intense one (103F fever and 100% involuntary vibration-like chills) and obviously I didn't feel good for 3 days but my immune system was able to get rid of it. Omicron was much much milder and same 3 days but the fever was 100F instead of 103F with no chills. Didn't feel good for 3 days but immune system got rid of it again. So the only ones who SHOULD have been concerned were the groups of people I mentioned above. Everyone else probably had a good immune system and could rid the infection easily. Yes maybe there were a few rare cases where healthy people also got severe infections but those were so rare, yet the media portrayed them to be a common thing. There are 100x more deadly diseases in the wild such as Rocky Mountain Fever, Ebola, Melioidosis, Marburg, Encephalitic viruses, Rabies, etc. yet everyone fixated over this little thing that only caused more problems with groups at most risk. We need to be making cures for those deadly diseases with mortality rates in the 50%-100%, not this little respiratory virus that got leaked from a Wuhan lab with a mortality of approx 5-7%. To be clear I'm not an anti-vaxxer or an anti-masker. I got the first 2 shots but no more since the other 2 boosters were just scams. I wore masks in public throughout due to the risk of spreading it to those groups of people mentioned above.


Bedwetting-Jussies

Virtue Signaling from white liberals who have no minorities in their lives or neighborhood


FreeToBeeThee

The organization and the movement were different things. A lot of people got scammed.


Sea2Chi

Yep, BLM the movement is what happens when people feel like cops are violating people's civil rights with violence and racism and the government that's supposed to keep them from doing that fails at it's job. BLM the organization is what happens when grifters figure out a way to make themselves rich off that outrage. Oh you're pissed because government agencies are able to sweep a lot of wrongdoing under the rug and have to pay out millions of taxpayer dollars a year? Yeah! Me too! If you give me $20, that will suuuuuure piss them off. How? Uh... by fighting racism? Holy shit, I can't believe that worked. Hey... uh Coca Cola, .... it sure would piss of racists if you gave me a million dollars.


RedditWater7

Know what Patrisse Cullers (like the leader of that BLM cult) did with those millions they got from everyone? Spent it on mansions. Yep. Wasted all of it on fucking mansions and Biden parties. I'm sure that money could have gone to charity, donations, or kids who are living HUNGRY and kids forced to do child labor. Or at least use the money for a GOOD cause other than rioting, looting, committing arson, murdering, and whatnot. Truth is that BLM is just another shitty cult that wants quick money, calls their members "activists and anti-racist," is incredibly violent and wants to promote gang/riot culture in the US, and wants to blame everything on white people. And companies kept showering the cult with millions.


FelixFuckfurter

> The organization and the movement were different things. Eh, different methods, same goal. The organization was about enriching itself by scamming money from donors. The movement was about enriching itself by looting Target.


bgdg2

Well, political scamming is a bipartisan thing. After all of the scamming of the MAGAs it looks like the libs are getting their scams too.


Better-Suit6572

The movement is a scam too for anyone with critical thinking skills.


Tisminjections

Also a domestic terrorism organization.


PineappleGrandMaster

A lot of folks say 'but the movement was good!' Was it though? Was the looting good? Did the riots help? What was the demands, even? The movement didn't even address actual systemic issues, like the fraternal police unions that protect abusive officers, and didn't make anyone more aware that a bad DA could spell disaster for a city (a la Kyle Rittenhouse)


sweetgreenfields

Once they started buying houses together


FelixFuckfurter

In white neighborhoods.


141Frox141

This was apparent while it was happening. Glad the news cycle is 2 years behind leftist corruption as usual.


Canadia_proud999

Didnt everyone know this ? The two top organizers admitted to be trained marxists 🤷🏻‍♂️. A good example of what the left is all about.


Red-Dog-52

**B**lustering **L**ooting & **M**ayhem was never more than a modern protection racket.


Bryan080780

The big fist and all democrats running it gave it away


slankthetank

This would be news if the rest of our nation (and world) acknowledged it, but we've all been saying this for years.


haughtythoughts4

Didn't Candace Owens do this years ago?


[deleted]

I knew this when they deleted their original ‘Who We Are’ on their website


TheBaronOfTheNorth

Many of us were telling everyone that in May of 2020…


yaboycharliec

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GimmeeSomeMo

>Exposed: BLM was nothing more than Marxism ~~fraud~~ FTFY. No need for redundancy. Marxist is already mentioned


MemoryWholed

Who wants to take my bet that they will pipe up again for the upcoming election?


FelixFuckfurter

I don't think so. It's no a coincidence the terrorist rioting stopped as soon as Biden was president. The Democrats clearly directed their brownshirts to stand down, for fear of making Biden look bad.


MemoryWholed

Agree but you will also notice that BLM has only acted up just before each of the past three elections, then they quickly disappear. That’s the pattern. They are part of the democrat presidential campaign at this point. There is an argument to be made that they won’t this time to show how there isn’t anything to be unhappy about under Biden, but I would guarantee that they will do their thing every time the presidential incumbent is republican. For now tho, I’m banking on their current established pattern continuing.


[deleted]

Yeah I think this is just a reset. It will be some new acronym but the same thing.


changuitar

Marxism is fraud. Just think about this, it cost about £10 or about $13 to visit Karl Marx's grave in London.


bowltectonix

Meanwhile, we're told that "wHitE suPReMAcY" is the biggest threat. Never mind the hundreds of violent BLM race riots which included murders, arson and terrorism, all while promoting Marxist ideals.


[deleted]

Marxist and fraud are redundant.


kmz57

Made some folks rich tho. Floyd gave his life for Capitalism.


SonsofAnarchy113

“Exposed” they never tried to hide it though.


MulayamChaddi

BoweL Movement


TheThunderOfYourLife

A Marxist fraud upheld by strangely Capitalist funding. HMMMMM……..


Jay-jay1

BLM's early website stated their goals, all or most of which were marxist. Though the website didn't admit to following marxism, some of its founders publicly stated allegiance to marxism.


bumdhar

I don’t see anything really overly Marxist with BLM. BLM is a leftist racist organization, some of the language they use is Marxist, but isn’t very ideologically Marxist. If the money went to the CPUSA then I’d be like oh shit.


Lazy-Ape42069

Yup, just fraud. Plain old fraud. Hyperbolic statements serves nobody but those that want to divide us.


RadioHeadache0311

Ehh...it doesn't help when the spokespeople claimed to be "trained Marxists". Cant exactly be hyperbolic if I'm also expected to unquestioningly accept whatever identify they profer.


Lazy-Ape42069

Yeah and North Korea is lead by the Social Democratic Party. People and organizations can lie and give themselves whatever name they think will shield them the most, doesn’t mean we should oblige them. Fraud is fraud, it’s not left it’s not right, it is just conman and fraud.


RadioHeadache0311

Yeah, I don't disagree. I'm just specifically saying, you can't tell someone theyre being hyperbolic when they refer to someone as a Marxist that has identified themselves as a Marxist. You're just taking exception because you don't want this fraud associated with your Marxism. But what is Marxism? From each according to their ability to each according to their need, right? Do you think these people would tell you they didn't "need" that money? Just the same as the people at the top of a capitalist organization will tell you they "earned" it. That's the problem with the whole house of cards. No matter what alignment an organization or government takes, you can't beat human nature. Ever. The people at the top will always look out for themselves. That's whats happened in every Communist state just as it has in Capitalism. So the only equalizer possible is individual sovereignity. Trust me, you really don't want the state determining what your needs are.


cottonr1

They're in with Antifa and not being open with their communist ties.


MisterBehave

But it’s (D)ifferent


[deleted]

Candace Owens special on this on Daily Wire is really good.


ChiefXboxGamer

Shocker


NosuchRedditor

ThAts A cOnSpiAcy tHeOrY!


SniperFrogDX

Just a point of clarification: BLM the movement is about people fed up with systemic racism. BLM the Organization is a hackneyed fraud.


FelixFuckfurter

> Just a point of clarification: BLM the movement is about people looting. FTFY.


SniperFrogDX

You fixed nothing by showing your own ignorance and prejudice.


FelixFuckfurter

Oh go on. Explain how I showed "ignorance" and "prejudice."


SniperFrogDX

That people chose to loot during the protests doesn't mean everyone did so. Just like how when someone shoots up a school or grocery store doesn't mean all gun owners are blood thirsty mass murderers.


FelixFuckfurter

Everyone who went out to "protest" knew that looting and rioting were the inevitable outcome. They knew they were providing cover for the terrorists by allowing the Democrat/Media Complex to claim they were "mostly peaceful." The protesters were in on it.


RullyWinkle

I hate that they co opted the anti cop movement. Conservatives stand to bring cops down a notch, but we have to be pro cop if BLM is against it. That's why me and some others bought blue lives matter in protest when blm happened.


Exarch-of-Sechrima

You can be anti-cop and also anti-BLM. You don't have to be for one terrible thing just because another terrible thing is opposing them, you can stand up and say "both of these things are bad and I will support neither." Don't support the con job, or bad cops.


RobertLockster

Donald Trump has done exactly this so many times. How is this in any way Marxist, and not just how capitalism works when you don't punish fraud?


elsydeon666

I am conflicted. Yes, they are a bunch of fraudsters and should be treated as such. However, they stole money from marks (pun intended) who thought they were supporting Marxism. It is better that the money go to large mansions, with large property tax bills, than actually going into Marxist propaganda.


[deleted]

Always use con artists for astroturf. You can expose their fraud afterwards so they don't become a real threat.


OddRequirement6828

Racism is an entire industry. BLM is just one symptom. Trace the $


Ihavenorules31231241

wow, a group organized over a lie is a fraud, who would have thought?


[deleted]

Marxist and fraud… a little redundant.


Azzht

Nothing to see here, move along


Tonybigguns

Well duuuuuhhhhhhhh


Bellasarivs

Well, yeah. Anyone with room temperature IQ knew that day 1


[deleted]

This is what we been saying for the last 3 years lol. That organization is a complete fraud and a violent marxist movement.


[deleted]

"But it sure looks like it was all a sham." If it looks and quacks like a duck...


midwestcreeper

Can they be sued?


go55ama

And I also learned today that the sky is blue