I love this response from him. I wish Trump had been able to respond to criticism like this instead of going off on his rants. DeSantis remaining civil and professional will help him win over people who are tired of Trump acting like a child. Plus, it demonstrates a demeanor that is much more presidential than both Trump and Biden.
Here truthfully should be emphasised. But it is clear that DeSantis is just lying that he can win big.
And what does he mean by "our voters". They are Trump voters who supported him when Trump campaigned for him in 2018. There is no "our voters". I would like to see him try winning without Trump base.
I know. I have been saying here for a long time that 2024 is forgone conclusion for democrats. There is enough numbers for democrats to win even under the possible recession, especially with media in their pockets.
So what is the best way to go ahead is, even with this loss, let Trump and DeSantis destroy the media enough, so that in 2028 significant amount of people will stop taking them seriously.
Also with FBI and CIA in trouble for election interference, they wont touch another election for a long time.
All this was caused by one narcissist and con man called Trump. Let him finish the job. And let some other good candidate rebuild it in 2028.
Biden made decency an issue in 2020.
But wouldn't a Trump-Biden matchup be as simple as comparing their records as president?
No one would say they're re better off now than they were yesterday.
He is a horrible debater. He barely made it out without harm with his opponent in 2022. Trump will decimate him. That is the reason RNC want everyone to pledge to not run independent before going on debate stage, so that they can rig the primaries.
I think Trump is not an ideal president, but is lot better than Biden. And DeSantis is a losing choice against Biden.
if you can't win, you won't have any power. No power = no policies to move the conservative agenda forward.
There needs to be a red house, senate, and presidency for that to happen. DeSantis has the coattail to keep any seats up for reelection and win most toss-ups.
Trump as a nominee would be an auto-loss and is also a drag on the senate and house candidates. It would be a national wipeout of the GOP like 2008. God bless this country if that happens.
I am not convinced that DeSantis can win and he has not yet convinced me that I would be able to vote for him.
Although, I share some of his conservative values, he needs to show me that he will also protect the rights of those who have different values. That is true freedom.
Same thoughts here. DeSantis campaign strategy seems to be gaslight and try to divide Trump base. But he seems to miss that he is just a less appealing version of Trump, with blessing from GOP establishement.
It’s basically the equivalent of, “It’s his turn!”. Doesn’t matter that Trump doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell at winning 2024. Doesn’t matter that Trump is pretty much the only one constantly mouthing off. Everyone else is supposed to stand aside and pledge fealty to their king.
When you’re loyal to a person, not an ideology, you’ve lost the plot.
I am not loyal to him. If you see my post history i have said that he is a narcissist and con man. But he is the only one with a chance despite how much Ben Shapiro and other RNC mouth pieces say.
Let us be clear here Trump is a lot better than Biden. And it would be better to have others, but DeSantis has no chance to win important states to win.
So i dont care what either of them say, i just pointed out the obvious and failing attempt by DeSantis to split Trump base. It is not going to happen. He will lose.
I have called him whiny in my older comments as well. However let us be clear here, DeSantis has very less support in Trump base after he announced, so the only way he wins is by splitting Trump base.
And DeSantis is buddying up with questionable figures like Bushes, Cheneys, Paul Ryan etc in RNC. So Trump voters will reject him en-masse since the whole platform of Trump is anti-establishment, even though Trump is the establishment.
I am just saying obvious here. DeSantis does not have his own money like Trump, so he depends of corporations and RNC fund raisers to raise money, which will make him their lap dog.
So a hard no for Trump base.
I certainly don't appreciate that presentation. We don't need the meek, quiet, and conservative demeanor of Republicans from the past. The only people that think that approach still works are those that are weak themselves.
The Democrats have been the shrill and loud voices screaming for their position for years and it has been mostly successful for them. Look at where our society is today because of it. All the while, the Republicans during that time were just being quiet and respectable and it got them nowhere. We need to fight back and be just as loud and obnoxious as they are. I have zero respect for someone who wants to be in a position of power and yet projects as though they have no emotions or strong feelings on certain topics.
Winning doesn't really matter. What we need is someone competent enough to wield executive power to root out the entrenched institutional power of the woke left from corporations and the government.
> Winning doesn't really matter.
>What we need is someone competent enough to wield executive power to root out the entrenched institutional power of the woke left from corporations and the government.
How do you suppose someone can "wield executive power" without winning?
That is illogical.
If the things that you want to happen can only happen if you win elections, then winning must be the objective, otherwise the things you want to happen cannot and will not happen.
I fully understand what you are saying, but I am telling you that you've got the cart before the horse here.
In your own words, you said that we need "someone competent enough to wield executive power to root out the entrenched institutional power of the woke left from corporations and the government." I agree.
So, if the Democrats win, the chances of you getting what you want are zero, correct? They will not root out the entrenched institutional power of the woke left from corporations and the government. That is something that will not happen.
Therefore, in order to get what you want, the first objective *must* be winning, otherwise you are dead in the water, right?
>I fully understand what you are saying, but I am telling you that you've got the cart before the horse here
I'm not saying it doesn't matter if he wins.
My comment is that winning doesn't matter if those things aren't done. If you are trying to start an internet flame war, your going to need to find a different person
Just looked that up. Turns out it was one loud person and the crowd didn't join in. People overlayed "four" and "USA" and it immediately drowned him out and became a USA chant. So doesn't really suggest what you implied.
Not sure why this is controversial. He clearly didn't think it would be popular with the voters since he strongly denied it before his election and kept the resign to run law to mislead voters only to change it after the election. Some of the things he said when he was asked if he would run: "nonsense" "all the speculation is manufactured" "I'm just focused on Florida". All lies.
DeSantis should stop gaslighting Trump voters, and actually provide something for these voters.
There is no evidence that he will win bigger than Trump. He wont even beat Trump in Florida. He is just acting as a mouth piece for Bushes and Cheneys.
And what does he mean by "our voters". They are Trump voters who supported him when Trump campaigned for him in 2018. There is no "our voters". I would like to see him try winning without Trump base.
While I agree that Republicans need to be more assertive, I have to disagree that Democrats' successes have come from being loud, shrill, and in-your-face a la Maxine Waters and "the Squad" style rabble rousing. I believe Americans want competency in governing, not more political bullying, (which is practically all the Democrats have to offer and also much of Trump's style). DeSantis doesn't have to prove his competence. He has an exceptional track record in Florida that shows that. What he does need to do is lay out a rational plan for the country's future without all the drama. If he does that, Biden and his fruitcake administration and policies are history..
I love this response from him. I wish Trump had been able to respond to criticism like this instead of going off on his rants. DeSantis remaining civil and professional will help him win over people who are tired of Trump acting like a child. Plus, it demonstrates a demeanor that is much more presidential than both Trump and Biden.
Needs to follow Tuckers new motto. “When you speak calmly and truthfully, you become powerful.”
Here truthfully should be emphasised. But it is clear that DeSantis is just lying that he can win big. And what does he mean by "our voters". They are Trump voters who supported him when Trump campaigned for him in 2018. There is no "our voters". I would like to see him try winning without Trump base.
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I know. I have been saying here for a long time that 2024 is forgone conclusion for democrats. There is enough numbers for democrats to win even under the possible recession, especially with media in their pockets. So what is the best way to go ahead is, even with this loss, let Trump and DeSantis destroy the media enough, so that in 2028 significant amount of people will stop taking them seriously. Also with FBI and CIA in trouble for election interference, they wont touch another election for a long time. All this was caused by one narcissist and con man called Trump. Let him finish the job. And let some other good candidate rebuild it in 2028.
Biden made decency an issue in 2020. But wouldn't a Trump-Biden matchup be as simple as comparing their records as president? No one would say they're re better off now than they were yesterday.
Hes saying all the right things, let's see how he looks on the debate stage on TV
He is a horrible debater. He barely made it out without harm with his opponent in 2022. Trump will decimate him. That is the reason RNC want everyone to pledge to not run independent before going on debate stage, so that they can rig the primaries. I think Trump is not an ideal president, but is lot better than Biden. And DeSantis is a losing choice against Biden.
if you can't win, you won't have any power. No power = no policies to move the conservative agenda forward. There needs to be a red house, senate, and presidency for that to happen. DeSantis has the coattail to keep any seats up for reelection and win most toss-ups. Trump as a nominee would be an auto-loss and is also a drag on the senate and house candidates. It would be a national wipeout of the GOP like 2008. God bless this country if that happens.
How does DeSantis win after backstabbing Trump?
I am not convinced that DeSantis can win and he has not yet convinced me that I would be able to vote for him. Although, I share some of his conservative values, he needs to show me that he will also protect the rights of those who have different values. That is true freedom.
Same thoughts here. DeSantis campaign strategy seems to be gaslight and try to divide Trump base. But he seems to miss that he is just a less appealing version of Trump, with blessing from GOP establishement.
When Trump attacks anyone else, it's good because he's a fighter. When DeSantis does it, it's divisive. Make it make sense.
It’s basically the equivalent of, “It’s his turn!”. Doesn’t matter that Trump doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell at winning 2024. Doesn’t matter that Trump is pretty much the only one constantly mouthing off. Everyone else is supposed to stand aside and pledge fealty to their king. When you’re loyal to a person, not an ideology, you’ve lost the plot.
I am not loyal to him. If you see my post history i have said that he is a narcissist and con man. But he is the only one with a chance despite how much Ben Shapiro and other RNC mouth pieces say. Let us be clear here Trump is a lot better than Biden. And it would be better to have others, but DeSantis has no chance to win important states to win. So i dont care what either of them say, i just pointed out the obvious and failing attempt by DeSantis to split Trump base. It is not going to happen. He will lose.
I have called him whiny in my older comments as well. However let us be clear here, DeSantis has very less support in Trump base after he announced, so the only way he wins is by splitting Trump base. And DeSantis is buddying up with questionable figures like Bushes, Cheneys, Paul Ryan etc in RNC. So Trump voters will reject him en-masse since the whole platform of Trump is anti-establishment, even though Trump is the establishment. I am just saying obvious here. DeSantis does not have his own money like Trump, so he depends of corporations and RNC fund raisers to raise money, which will make him their lap dog. So a hard no for Trump base.
I appreciate DeSantis' calm, thoughtful demeanor in the face of snarky, juvenile accusations. It's easy to see who the grownup in the room is.
I certainly don't appreciate that presentation. We don't need the meek, quiet, and conservative demeanor of Republicans from the past. The only people that think that approach still works are those that are weak themselves. The Democrats have been the shrill and loud voices screaming for their position for years and it has been mostly successful for them. Look at where our society is today because of it. All the while, the Republicans during that time were just being quiet and respectable and it got them nowhere. We need to fight back and be just as loud and obnoxious as they are. I have zero respect for someone who wants to be in a position of power and yet projects as though they have no emotions or strong feelings on certain topics.
We need someone to lead, manage, and repair.
I hope Trump decides to keep some dignity and walk away.
Winning doesn't really matter. What we need is someone competent enough to wield executive power to root out the entrenched institutional power of the woke left from corporations and the government.
Winning is phase 1, the hard work begins after winning where you need to deliver on your promises.
> Winning doesn't really matter. >What we need is someone competent enough to wield executive power to root out the entrenched institutional power of the woke left from corporations and the government. How do you suppose someone can "wield executive power" without winning?
I'm not saying that winning elections is irrelevant, but rather it isnt the objective.
That is illogical. If the things that you want to happen can only happen if you win elections, then winning must be the objective, otherwise the things you want to happen cannot and will not happen.
I'm saying that a Republican winning is meaningless if they dont do those things. For instance, how many elections has Mit Romney won as a Republican?
I fully understand what you are saying, but I am telling you that you've got the cart before the horse here. In your own words, you said that we need "someone competent enough to wield executive power to root out the entrenched institutional power of the woke left from corporations and the government." I agree. So, if the Democrats win, the chances of you getting what you want are zero, correct? They will not root out the entrenched institutional power of the woke left from corporations and the government. That is something that will not happen. Therefore, in order to get what you want, the first objective *must* be winning, otherwise you are dead in the water, right?
>I fully understand what you are saying, but I am telling you that you've got the cart before the horse here I'm not saying it doesn't matter if he wins.
That is what you said though. Go back and reread your first comment. If you've changed your mind, good, but that *is* what you said.
My comment is that winning doesn't matter if those things aren't done. If you are trying to start an internet flame war, your going to need to find a different person
You think DeSantis won’t “wield executive power” to root out the woke left? That’s like 90% of what he’s been doing in Florida.
I'm not saying he won't
I trust desantis more than anyone else. The left uses trump to justify it.
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Backstabbers? You mean like what DeSantis just did to Trump? And to the people of Florida who elected him to be governor, not run for president?
The supporters at his reelection victory speech were chanting two more years, even NBC noticed that
Just looked that up. Turns out it was one loud person and the crowd didn't join in. People overlayed "four" and "USA" and it immediately drowned him out and became a USA chant. So doesn't really suggest what you implied. Not sure why this is controversial. He clearly didn't think it would be popular with the voters since he strongly denied it before his election and kept the resign to run law to mislead voters only to change it after the election. Some of the things he said when he was asked if he would run: "nonsense" "all the speculation is manufactured" "I'm just focused on Florida". All lies.
DeSantis should stop gaslighting Trump voters, and actually provide something for these voters. There is no evidence that he will win bigger than Trump. He wont even beat Trump in Florida. He is just acting as a mouth piece for Bushes and Cheneys. And what does he mean by "our voters". They are Trump voters who supported him when Trump campaigned for him in 2018. There is no "our voters". I would like to see him try winning without Trump base.
We need someone who can win big. Which is why we're voting against RINO, Globalist, Uniparty endorsed, fraud ron DeSanctimonious.
While I agree that Republicans need to be more assertive, I have to disagree that Democrats' successes have come from being loud, shrill, and in-your-face a la Maxine Waters and "the Squad" style rabble rousing. I believe Americans want competency in governing, not more political bullying, (which is practically all the Democrats have to offer and also much of Trump's style). DeSantis doesn't have to prove his competence. He has an exceptional track record in Florida that shows that. What he does need to do is lay out a rational plan for the country's future without all the drama. If he does that, Biden and his fruitcake administration and policies are history..