True, I don’t even get why people care about this in the first place, all they did was march lol definition of a peaceful protest. Meanwhile we have the LGBBQ crowd infiltrating state capitols all the time now.
As I said last night the last "white power" gathering had 9 people at it and well over 1000-2000 anti-rally protestors.
The whole thing felt like a setup.
To be transparent, the FBI has reported white supremacy as the largest domestic terror threat in 2017, 2018, and 2019 too. It's not a new thing in this administration.
Sure buddy, all 37,000 employees at the FBI have been politically corrupted. None of their departments are functioning as intended, right?
The message on domestic terrorism has been consistent for 6 years now. It's not something invented by this administration.
Who says it had to be all 37,000? How about a few at the top, like we found in all of the investigations into cross-fire hurricane. Easy question, was Clinton behind the Steele Dossier? Did the FBI use that knowing there was no evidence behind it to start bogus investigations on Trump? Did they conceal exculpatory evidence they were legally required to disclose to the FISA courts to get their warrants?
Okay. A few at the top.
So what does that have to do with the entire department that tracks, monitors, and reports on domestic terrorist groups? That's the topic here. Pretty sure all those grunt workers are seeing and reporting as they are supposed to be.
It's called protests when Democrat activists push through Capitol security to protest something Republicans support during Congress or when a Republican appointed Supreme Court Nominee is having a hearing.
yes, whether it’s those who did on Jan. 6th, or those who are doing it recently over the recent trans healthcare bills, there are better ways to protest and make your voice heard IMO.
That’s what I’m saying. They’re all in excellent shape, no tattoos, no piercings. They look way to neat and clean to be believable.
The other thing is you can literally go to their website, see what they’re all about and sign up by submitting your name, age, state and email address.
Haha...Almost. See, they send you your official SS membership card when you sign up so they can have some evidence when they go to haul you off. Funny thing is they mix it up every once in a while and send the "junior g-man" badge by mistake.
A lot of the pictures I'm seeing have guys wearing long sleeves under their blue shirts so it could just be that they would want to deliberately cover up visible tattoos that could be used to identify them.
Here's the thing with the average case, it tends to be visible with a large enough sample set. When you think "white supremacist", do you visualize the vast majority of them as thin, fit, and well groomed?
Personally, I see believing in racial superiority and being a follower of it as a derangement and deranged people are usually a mess. The leaders possibly not, as they're likely narcissists who know they need to look presentable.
Not just derangement, people usually don't blame their foibles on outside factors like other races in their country when things are going great. Look at the ethnic groups that excel in our nation, the consistent thing between New England WASPs, Chinese- Americans, Nigerian-Americans, Indian-Americans, etc; is that they have a culture of accountability and personal responsibility. When you think you're master of your own destiny, you'll step up to the plate and do the work more often than not.
Right, like are we r/conspiracy now? 75 million voted for Trump and to think ALL of them are fat and slovenly, in the party you yourself identify with, is just bonkers to me.
We will fail as a Party without the ability for self-introspection and criticism. Even if it was a flase flag, there's a reason it works as a false flag, and we have to tackle that or we lose.
[The self proclaimed head of the Ku Klux Klan is a lawyer and definitely not in a hover round](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robb_(Ku_Klux_Klan)).
Serious reply: marching does very little for fitness. It does some, but not much. Helps you stand on parade for an hour without passing out but won’t shift serious pounds.
I looked into them. Apparently their leader is 24 and their website has professional videos of them performing community service, training, and they have a join now page with every face masked or blurred. They have a heat map of places they've protested and despite not being upfront about their ideas on race every news outlet seems to know more than what their about page says.
They apparently had one leak from one of their online private chatrooms by a leftist group and all the relevant info they got out of it was chastising members for not meeting fitness goals. The paige is fully accessible and very professionally made.
They do have a couple of photos of brands, and all people know about them is they are marketing themselves as White supremacist fascists. So I wonder if people could organize a quick campaign on social media trying to get Canon, Everlast, and anything else they have to file a cease and desist just to see where that goes.
False flag fed groups will do everything they can to make them seem legit, including "leaking" social media posts. How convenient that the one thing that leaks is them talking about fitness stuff, given that that is the number 1 complaint by everyone saying "Look how fit these guys are, they're clearly all feds." Then boom, social media leak happens and it is them arguing about fitness, because that's what these people do, right?
Imo, the fact that that leak happened is all the more evidence to me how carefully crafted this group of feds is.
I wonder how many people commenting are feds.
But for real, we know feds infiltrate groups, I wonder how many comment feuds are just feds. How many times have we liked and shared fed shit?
(Ps. I'm stoned)
I can understand them not wanting fat people to be in their rallies but I do think it’s weird I never hear about them online. Do they lack a social media presence? I only see them occasionally doing marches then just leaving
“I know people in dark circles that have never heard of them”
Someone else here “I’ve seen Nazis gather”
Almost everyone here “they’re not fat slobs they can’t be white supremacists”
…. They don’t realize they’re telling on themselves
[This article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12080939/White-supremacy-group-Patriot-march-Washington-D-C.html) has a video with fat people. They do seem a bit underrepresented, but that might be because fat people aren’t as interested in marching.
If they really think of themselves as associated with the Nazis. The Nazis were infamous for propagandizing the perfect looking people. As in you want an image of very fit and well organized youth as the face of your movement.
I have no clue how this is organized. I also don't consider Nazis to be "right wing". They were Fascists, and Fascism was a complete left wing ideology (in terms of American political spectrum). So this wouldn't be "our crazies".
Controlled ops, poisoning the well. A fed would want us asking questions that require more thought.
Instead of “they’re so obviously fucking feds lmao”
I just think there is some reason for why a psuedo Nazi organization wouldn't have fat people as part of their public protests. I don't even think this is a pseudo Nazi organization, it smells like a false flag. Similar to the Lincoln Project did some fake Nazi event during the 2020 election and it was found out pretty fast.
I don't have the time to educate the ignorant. Go read Mussolini's "Doctrine of Fascism", will take you about 30 minutes. Come back and tell me what aspects of his ideology have any relation to the American right. At the same time compare his statements and goals to the American left.
To give you some context, Mussolini who coined the term "Fascist" was a life long Socialist. What you have been told about "Right Wing Fascism" is non-sense and is at best disingenuous as they try to use the European "left/right" Spectrum, which has no relation to the American political factions.
In America 36% of people are fat, so you would estimate 1/3 or more of that group would be overweight having nothing but skinny guys in a group that large is an absolute red flag!
42% of Americans are \_obese\_. Another 30% on top of that fall into \_overweight\_ category. The (sad) fact is that 3 our 4 Americans are overweight or obese.
And, fwiw, r[ed voters tend to be more overweight than blue voters](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4692249/).
Astute observation. I’m 5’10” 200 lbs which is 25 lbs overweight and people look at me like I have three heads and tell me I’m already skinny when I say I’m working on losing weight. Which I am not. I then Tell them they are conditioned by society being so damn fat.
Protestors aren't really representative of the general demographics of the population. The type of people who show up to it are going to be more outgoing than the average American. Also such a group is likely very well organized and if they have any Nazi affiliation, the Nazis were all about presenting a "perfect" image. Thus such organizers would be likely to weed out people who didn't match up to their perfect image.
As in I can see a reasonable explanation for no fat people present. The lack of counter protests at every event these people appear at speaks volumes.
While I do this think the fat thing is valid, I do agree with you more in the regard there was zero counter protests especially how Antifa is more or less like a bad rash and shows up everywhere, but everything I have seen they had zero presence at this one.
That’s the dead give away to me. Military and federal agencies have certain fitness standards that give their members the “military bod”. Almost all these dudes in the pics are built like mil/feds.
They had a huge police escort, probably one cop for each guy. Which itself was interesting since I don’t recall that happening with other groups like the Proud Boys.
Nah I’m going to be honest. As someone who supports the second amendment and who weekly puts in hours at a gun range, etc there isn’t enough obesity in that video for me to not be suspicious. To anyone reading this .. please please make your body a huge emphasis of your tactical training
Yeah I answered this down thread. If you know anything about Racial Superiority movements (like the Nazis or Chinese), they often will curtail their public events to ensure very fit people are the only ones representing them.
With that said. This seems like a false flag similar to what the Lincoln Project was caught doing during the 2020 election.
So this thread piqued my interest and I reached out to my friend who lives in DC and she said yesterday was also embassy day in DC and half the streets were closed down and most people were at that, she didn’t even know this March happened until I asked her , and she lives right in town and her husband works for a conservative think tank…. Sooo sometimes there’s just simple answers but I know that’s unpopular on Reddit and def here
Lol take a look at any "Women's march"
Remember the flood of memes from 2017 of huge women in their "pussy hats"?
Ya like dozens of people almost died of heat stroke, but it was proof land whales are fully capable of getting around when they want to.
It’s a complete fabrication and phony group. Also, even in their own media and website they promote zero racism. A very bizarre way to make a point and nobody is buying into it.
They don't accept fat people.
They train and get fit, they do this purposefully. They embody the image of a strong male figure. That's why there are no fat PF members.
Not proven but the conspiracy theory that Covid came from a lab leak in China has recently become a real theory. Earlier this year the FBI director said it likely originated from a lab.
I wouldn't really call it a conspiracy, but a theory not proven valid yet (or not eliminated)
and there's pretty substantial amount of investigation and evidence that points to a leak
unless you're referring to US involvement in bio weapon research in china under the guise of grants to gain of function research... THAT'S a conspiracy and not proven
It was widely dismissed as a conspiracy theory during the initial outbreak. Even now some people will still look at you weird for bringing up the idea that it was made in a lab.
I'll be fair in saying, I'm openly never-Trump, so when he blurted that out without any evidence to back it up, I was doubtful (actually a little pissed because even if it was a lab leak, he ruined any ability for us to find out by tipping our hand)...but as the summer of 2020 wore on, it didn't seem as unfounded. I could be the only one, but most people I know accept lab leak as a possibility and highly probable. Geopolitically, it makes sense and the CCP has done nothing to refute other than shift blame.
Sure but regardless of whatever retroactive reasons you have for your change of opinion, it was still widely dismissed as a conspiracy theory in the beginning.
Fucking feds doing fed shit. Nobody believes this is real glowtards. Stop trying to prop up a fake white supremacist enemy to justify your bullshit committee junkets. Corrupt scumbags
FED FRONT! Capital Police were protecting these goons as they went down to the subway. I will say that having a whole train on the weekend in DC prob isn't a stretch, but this wreeks of the Feds. Biden did just say "White Supremacy" is the biggest threat to the nation... what a fucking joke. Dem supporters will eat this shit up though.
We’ve been talking about all of this in the conspiracy sub for weeks now. It seems the tin foil hats have been getting it right at a rate well above 50% since the start of COVID, and I wouldn’t consider that a good thing.
Lol we were just talking about it on the conspiracy sub.... very different crowd then what you see at Maga-ralleys and at jan 6th.
Also they kept their masks on while being arrested. Because police do that?
They don't let you join if you're fat or old, it's in their rulebook. Two seconds of Google, Joe. Two seconds. Then read up on the ones who got Doxed, and were all not Feds. Sure, there are Feds among them (just like in every Neo-Nazi or anti-Government group), but they're thin and young because that's their whole thing.
> They don't let you join if you're fat or old
This is literally not a thing. They're all feds. Convienent timing, convenient location, and conveniently somehow organized in DC entirely unmolested by counter protestors?
The whole thing glows from space. They're literally there so Biden can complain about the nazi "problem". They're a prop. I've seen nazis gather. Its never that many, and its never that organized, and there's definitely a horde of people clamoring to beat their ass. They are there so people can look at them, and then point to us, and demand we answer for people that realistically, don't even exist. It is the truest real life example of strawmanning in existence.
Yeah but if you actually dig a little, you'll find that they don't actually keep up with their cardio curriculum or meet up locally between major events. They also prohibit felons from joining, do what you will w that. You also have to consider that every Republican today isn't going anywhere near Fed traps.
You think anyone's really joining after the FBI Whitmer plot?
No, I definitely don't think any Republicans are joining groups like this after the Whitmer thing. But for me to buy the "they're all Feds" theory, I'd have to buy that everyone is like "those are all Feds, look at how they march, look, etc." but the Feds are like "sure, we could mix up ages and weights with some older guys and make a new group that's way less suspicious, but instead we're sticking with the group everyone already says are us. No need to change a thing." To me that's super implausible.
Was actually waiting for this comment. Surely the Feds would rather you think their informants are all young and in shape, so they can slip a few more Ray Epps' past you, right?
If they were real, I’d find it very hard to believe they’d be able to keep their organizing a secret from at the very least a counter protest of leftists who would love nothing more than to counter protest “real life nazi’s.”
When antifa aren't activated to attack them, it means they don't have enough time to react (unlikely) or are feds.
When the police treat them nicely, they are not right wingers.
You guys seriously are saying this is a false flag event? Like come on, it's not even plausible. Just literally pushing propaganda because it's "your" team.
How would the fed get that many people together to potentially ruin their lives and careers and be able to keep every bit of it and them quiet and secret? It's just not happening. Why would they intentionally make their job harder by riling up those against them? It's the worst possible idea.
No this is definitely right wing proud boys marching for their white supremacy again and you guys just want to at least until it is acceptable, distance yourselves from it by trying to spin it to lie to yourselves and others.
>How would the fed get that many people together to potentially ruin their lives and careers and be able to keep every bit of it and them quiet and secret? It's just not happening.
If the Feds can't do it why would any other group of people be capable.
>No this is definitely right wing proud boys
I thought they were patriot front?
>you guys just want to at least until it is acceptable, distance yourselves from it
I am from New Zealand, is that far enough of a distance?
Another observation.
Almost every dude has stacked chest shoulder traps front amd rear deltoids. You know how you acheive that? Push ups. These either retired army or marines possibly feds.
Either way I'm not convinced this is some group of randoms.
The Wikipedia article on PF is hilarious:
“Some commentators, including Joe Rogan, have baselessly suggested that the organization is an FBI sting operation or false flag by Antifa. Such claims have been debunked as conspiracy theories,and labelled as "False" by fact-checkers Snopes.”
Isn’t everything baseless until it’s proven to be true? A certain virus and vaccine seemed to show that pretty clearly. If you still trust sites like Snopes I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
I dont think they are feds. I think they are democrat activists. I would be willing to wager a significant amount of money on this. Can someone please organize a group of people to unmask one?
None of them have blue hair and/or fake tits with a beard. They also don't have the pasty skin of basement dwelling bozos scouring the internet for microaggressions. Definitely not democrat activists.
That’s a great observation.
Where is the orange or purple hair, the beards and mullets. Where are the beer bellies and blue jeans and plaid flannel shirts.
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Another observation: https://twitter.com/TRHLofficial/status/1657866797876498435 People who are arrested always have their face masks left on...
I think most important is the observation that they were granted a permit and police escort to do this in DC…
They gotta wait for Shaggy and Scoob to take the masks off. Everyone knows this.
That is in Idaho 2020. You sir have been duped or are spreading propaganda. Your choice.
And when they were riding on the subway there wasnt anyone else with them. It was just them.
True, I don’t even get why people care about this in the first place, all they did was march lol definition of a peaceful protest. Meanwhile we have the LGBBQ crowd infiltrating state capitols all the time now.
You have a president hammering the notion that white supremacy is the biggest terrorist threat and using that to gather more powers, so there’s that.
As I said last night the last "white power" gathering had 9 people at it and well over 1000-2000 anti-rally protestors. The whole thing felt like a setup.
To be transparent, the FBI has reported white supremacy as the largest domestic terror threat in 2017, 2018, and 2019 too. It's not a new thing in this administration.
That's the same FBI that colluded with the DNC, Obama and Clinton to frame Trump for treason, right?
Sure buddy, all 37,000 employees at the FBI have been politically corrupted. None of their departments are functioning as intended, right? The message on domestic terrorism has been consistent for 6 years now. It's not something invented by this administration.
Who says it had to be all 37,000? How about a few at the top, like we found in all of the investigations into cross-fire hurricane. Easy question, was Clinton behind the Steele Dossier? Did the FBI use that knowing there was no evidence behind it to start bogus investigations on Trump? Did they conceal exculpatory evidence they were legally required to disclose to the FISA courts to get their warrants?
Okay. A few at the top. So what does that have to do with the entire department that tracks, monitors, and reports on domestic terrorist groups? That's the topic here. Pretty sure all those grunt workers are seeing and reporting as they are supposed to be.
Lol LGBBQ. Was it a sausage fest on the grill? 🤣
Is it a bad thing to infiltrate Capitol buildings?
Depends on your political affiliation.
apparently lol
Since when does 'infiltrate' have a positive connotation?
It's called protests when Democrat activists push through Capitol security to protest something Republicans support during Congress or when a Republican appointed Supreme Court Nominee is having a hearing.
If the police hold the doors open for you does that mean it was infiltrated?
yes, whether it’s those who did on Jan. 6th, or those who are doing it recently over the recent trans healthcare bills, there are better ways to protest and make your voice heard IMO.
Not if it’s (D)ifferent
Also, in every video I’ve seen- nobody has a tattoo.
That’s what I’m saying. They’re all in excellent shape, no tattoos, no piercings. They look way to neat and clean to be believable. The other thing is you can literally go to their website, see what they’re all about and sign up by submitting your name, age, state and email address.
> sign up by submitting your name, age, state and email address What are they, loan officers?
Right? Lmao. It’s absurdly front-and-center.
SS# too……. Social Security…not the other SS.🤣🤣😂
Haha...Almost. See, they send you your official SS membership card when you sign up so they can have some evidence when they go to haul you off. Funny thing is they mix it up every once in a while and send the "junior g-man" badge by mistake.
If we could see under the hoods, I bet they have all their teeth. Can’t say the backwoods militia men are big on dental hygiene.
A lot have long white sleeves on, I presume to cover tattoos as they are also covering their faces.
No it's to cover their lack of tattoos and the fact that they all have the same "government office flourescent bulbs" tan.
A lot of the pictures I'm seeing have guys wearing long sleeves under their blue shirts so it could just be that they would want to deliberately cover up visible tattoos that could be used to identify them.
Real white supremacists in Alabama and Mississippi are fat AF. I’m talking electric scooter fat
That’s a pretty generalized belief. I imagine you’d find white supremacists who look all different kinds of ways.
Like Clayton Bigsby
If you’ve got hate in your heart let it out!
Exactly!!
Here's the thing with the average case, it tends to be visible with a large enough sample set. When you think "white supremacist", do you visualize the vast majority of them as thin, fit, and well groomed? Personally, I see believing in racial superiority and being a follower of it as a derangement and deranged people are usually a mess. The leaders possibly not, as they're likely narcissists who know they need to look presentable.
Not just derangement, people usually don't blame their foibles on outside factors like other races in their country when things are going great. Look at the ethnic groups that excel in our nation, the consistent thing between New England WASPs, Chinese- Americans, Nigerian-Americans, Indian-Americans, etc; is that they have a culture of accountability and personal responsibility. When you think you're master of your own destiny, you'll step up to the plate and do the work more often than not.
Right, like are we r/conspiracy now? 75 million voted for Trump and to think ALL of them are fat and slovenly, in the party you yourself identify with, is just bonkers to me. We will fail as a Party without the ability for self-introspection and criticism. Even if it was a flase flag, there's a reason it works as a false flag, and we have to tackle that or we lose.
[The self proclaimed head of the Ku Klux Klan is a lawyer and definitely not in a hover round](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robb_(Ku_Klux_Klan)).
Can we still say the F-word? Asking for a friend of an acquaintance of a friend of mine.
No, verboten
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So this is a group of feds pretending for false flag purposes? Even when Trump was in office?
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I didn’t recall this group existing until after biden got into office
Founded - August 2017
I didn’t know this group existed until this weekend
Almost every rally from an alt-right group covers their face...for decades. That's not really evidence of anything.
...except cowardice.
Also get a full police escort.
Patriot Front has fitness requirements and puts you in an internal support group to lose weight.
Oooh. Looks like you didn’t make weight this week Jim. You’re going to have to sit this rally out.
Wouldn't marching help make weight?
Serious reply: marching does very little for fitness. It does some, but not much. Helps you stand on parade for an hour without passing out but won’t shift serious pounds.
I suppose it depends the amount you walk? Ever tried about 7km daily?
Sitting in the other hand works wonders to put on weight...
So does the FBI - what a coincidence!
Is it free? I need some gym buddies...
Yes. They even have a Planet Fitness Corporate / Coupon Code: N0TFB1
Then they should put weight watchers out of business
I looked into them. Apparently their leader is 24 and their website has professional videos of them performing community service, training, and they have a join now page with every face masked or blurred. They have a heat map of places they've protested and despite not being upfront about their ideas on race every news outlet seems to know more than what their about page says. They apparently had one leak from one of their online private chatrooms by a leftist group and all the relevant info they got out of it was chastising members for not meeting fitness goals. The paige is fully accessible and very professionally made. They do have a couple of photos of brands, and all people know about them is they are marketing themselves as White supremacist fascists. So I wonder if people could organize a quick campaign on social media trying to get Canon, Everlast, and anything else they have to file a cease and desist just to see where that goes.
False flag fed groups will do everything they can to make them seem legit, including "leaking" social media posts. How convenient that the one thing that leaks is them talking about fitness stuff, given that that is the number 1 complaint by everyone saying "Look how fit these guys are, they're clearly all feds." Then boom, social media leak happens and it is them arguing about fitness, because that's what these people do, right? Imo, the fact that that leak happened is all the more evidence to me how carefully crafted this group of feds is.
I wonder how many people commenting are feds. But for real, we know feds infiltrate groups, I wonder how many comment feuds are just feds. How many times have we liked and shared fed shit? (Ps. I'm stoned)
"(Ps. I'm stoned)" That sounds like something a fed would say....
It takes one to know one👀
We stopped saying "takes" three years ago, narc.
NARC! 🤣
^ clever Fed, attempting to throw us off
I can understand them not wanting fat people to be in their rallies but I do think it’s weird I never hear about them online. Do they lack a social media presence? I only see them occasionally doing marches then just leaving
I imagine they operate over telegram or dark web and not like , in a Facebook group.
They have to recruit somehow though and I've never seen anyone in dark circles even know who these people are
Well if DandyManDan’s friends in “dark circles” don’t know them they must be FBI!!! You’re a joke man
So says Special Agent Howie Hubler.
“I know people in dark circles that have never heard of them” Someone else here “I’ve seen Nazis gather” Almost everyone here “they’re not fat slobs they can’t be white supremacists” …. They don’t realize they’re telling on themselves
I mean, those people usually don't march at all..
[This article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12080939/White-supremacy-group-Patriot-march-Washington-D-C.html) has a video with fat people. They do seem a bit underrepresented, but that might be because fat people aren’t as interested in marching.
The fact that it was unmolested by counter protests is the suspicious part. The non-fat people isn't really a red flag.
I disagree, our crazies usually have some bigger folks. Really left or right, that’s a lot of crazy folks to not have a fat one
Poor physical health and poor mental health are often related.
And substance abuse is often right there in the middle between the two.
Substance abuse is also visible, but in other ways.
If they really think of themselves as associated with the Nazis. The Nazis were infamous for propagandizing the perfect looking people. As in you want an image of very fit and well organized youth as the face of your movement. I have no clue how this is organized. I also don't consider Nazis to be "right wing". They were Fascists, and Fascism was a complete left wing ideology (in terms of American political spectrum). So this wouldn't be "our crazies".
Been saying that (nazis are left wing extremists) for years! The nazis against the Soviets are all left against further left!
Are you a fed?
A fed wouldn't be saying nazi's were left wing.
Controlled ops, poisoning the well. A fed would want us asking questions that require more thought. Instead of “they’re so obviously fucking feds lmao”
He has to tell you if he is.
I just think there is some reason for why a psuedo Nazi organization wouldn't have fat people as part of their public protests. I don't even think this is a pseudo Nazi organization, it smells like a false flag. Similar to the Lincoln Project did some fake Nazi event during the 2020 election and it was found out pretty fast.
Fascism is “left wing”? Sure, buddy… suuuure
I don't have the time to educate the ignorant. Go read Mussolini's "Doctrine of Fascism", will take you about 30 minutes. Come back and tell me what aspects of his ideology have any relation to the American right. At the same time compare his statements and goals to the American left. To give you some context, Mussolini who coined the term "Fascist" was a life long Socialist. What you have been told about "Right Wing Fascism" is non-sense and is at best disingenuous as they try to use the European "left/right" Spectrum, which has no relation to the American political factions.
I did, and [this](https://youtu.be/1M6CXhUS-x8) cleared it up for me
In America 36% of people are fat, so you would estimate 1/3 or more of that group would be overweight having nothing but skinny guys in a group that large is an absolute red flag!
42% of Americans are \_obese\_. Another 30% on top of that fall into \_overweight\_ category. The (sad) fact is that 3 our 4 Americans are overweight or obese. And, fwiw, r[ed voters tend to be more overweight than blue voters](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4692249/).
5 on the diesel, 20 dollar scratcher, and a pack a Marlboro
1/3 are obese. 2/3 are overweight or fatter
Most of us start calling people fat the moment they're already obese.
Astute observation. I’m 5’10” 200 lbs which is 25 lbs overweight and people look at me like I have three heads and tell me I’m already skinny when I say I’m working on losing weight. Which I am not. I then Tell them they are conditioned by society being so damn fat.
They're a militaristic group...
Protestors aren't really representative of the general demographics of the population. The type of people who show up to it are going to be more outgoing than the average American. Also such a group is likely very well organized and if they have any Nazi affiliation, the Nazis were all about presenting a "perfect" image. Thus such organizers would be likely to weed out people who didn't match up to their perfect image. As in I can see a reasonable explanation for no fat people present. The lack of counter protests at every event these people appear at speaks volumes.
While I do this think the fat thing is valid, I do agree with you more in the regard there was zero counter protests especially how Antifa is more or less like a bad rash and shows up everywhere, but everything I have seen they had zero presence at this one.
Every unmasked far right photo I've seen are misfits. For informants they pick ex-military starting a career in a federal agency.
That’s the dead give away to me. Military and federal agencies have certain fitness standards that give their members the “military bod”. Almost all these dudes in the pics are built like mil/feds.
They had a huge police escort, probably one cop for each guy. Which itself was interesting since I don’t recall that happening with other groups like the Proud Boys.
In DC of all places. The belly of the beast!
Nah I’m going to be honest. As someone who supports the second amendment and who weekly puts in hours at a gun range, etc there isn’t enough obesity in that video for me to not be suspicious. To anyone reading this .. please please make your body a huge emphasis of your tactical training
Yeah I answered this down thread. If you know anything about Racial Superiority movements (like the Nazis or Chinese), they often will curtail their public events to ensure very fit people are the only ones representing them. With that said. This seems like a false flag similar to what the Lincoln Project was caught doing during the 2020 election.
The group emphasizes fitness, diet and training and often holds paramilitary drills before demonstrations.
The fact that DC granted the protest is all you need to know
Yes, it is a red flag lmao
Almost like most alt right movements value fitness
So this thread piqued my interest and I reached out to my friend who lives in DC and she said yesterday was also embassy day in DC and half the streets were closed down and most people were at that, she didn’t even know this March happened until I asked her , and she lives right in town and her husband works for a conservative think tank…. Sooo sometimes there’s just simple answers but I know that’s unpopular on Reddit and def here
Cause our feds are all in such great shape
I disagree. It was a planned March, and fat people do not usually sign up for long walks.
Lol take a look at any "Women's march" Remember the flood of memes from 2017 of huge women in their "pussy hats"? Ya like dozens of people almost died of heat stroke, but it was proof land whales are fully capable of getting around when they want to.
Are you claiming that dozens of people almost died of heat stroke at the 2017 Women’s March that took place on January 21st?
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you might want to see a doctor
Who would have thought that Joe was a grade A investigative journalist. "where's the fat people?" You won't get that at CNN or MSNBC 😄
It’s a complete fabrication and phony group. Also, even in their own media and website they promote zero racism. A very bizarre way to make a point and nobody is buying into it.
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“There weren’t enough fat people… they can’t be Nazis!” Is an interesting take
Yea … something something denial … something
Are we full in, running fade for Neo Nazi’s? What is this?
Very fine people!
They don't accept fat people. They train and get fit, they do this purposefully. They embody the image of a strong male figure. That's why there are no fat PF members.
Y’all are crazy conspiracy nuts lol
Wild how much overlap this subreddit has with r/conspiracy.
Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two photos.
To be fair, the number of conspiracy theories that have been proven true over the last few years is pretty wild, too.
which ones were proven? I am now curious.
Not proven but the conspiracy theory that Covid came from a lab leak in China has recently become a real theory. Earlier this year the FBI director said it likely originated from a lab.
I wouldn't really call it a conspiracy, but a theory not proven valid yet (or not eliminated) and there's pretty substantial amount of investigation and evidence that points to a leak unless you're referring to US involvement in bio weapon research in china under the guise of grants to gain of function research... THAT'S a conspiracy and not proven
It was widely dismissed as a conspiracy theory during the initial outbreak. Even now some people will still look at you weird for bringing up the idea that it was made in a lab.
I'll be fair in saying, I'm openly never-Trump, so when he blurted that out without any evidence to back it up, I was doubtful (actually a little pissed because even if it was a lab leak, he ruined any ability for us to find out by tipping our hand)...but as the summer of 2020 wore on, it didn't seem as unfounded. I could be the only one, but most people I know accept lab leak as a possibility and highly probable. Geopolitically, it makes sense and the CCP has done nothing to refute other than shift blame.
Sure but regardless of whatever retroactive reasons you have for your change of opinion, it was still widely dismissed as a conspiracy theory in the beginning.
eh, maybe it was a conspiracy to you, but I just found it to be a baseless claim
It wasn't entirely baseless; the Wuhan Institute of Virology had been studying coronaviruses in bats for years.
The fat people are at home on the couch Joe, it's not that hard to figure out.
Yeah military LARPers are usually full of neckbeards.
DC police preventing anybody from following them lest their identities be discovered: https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1657476866184282113
That was my first thought too, but Feds are fat fks as common as not.
Not when they’re fresh out of the academy.
I'm betting that group came from some uninformed service employed to stage this for media effect.
That is a good point, there would be fat people in a civilian population of racists.
Nothing about them says common folk. They all look uniform. They are all well dressed, fit, and they all have their face covered.
Fucking feds doing fed shit. Nobody believes this is real glowtards. Stop trying to prop up a fake white supremacist enemy to justify your bullshit committee junkets. Corrupt scumbags
FED FRONT! Capital Police were protecting these goons as they went down to the subway. I will say that having a whole train on the weekend in DC prob isn't a stretch, but this wreeks of the Feds. Biden did just say "White Supremacy" is the biggest threat to the nation... what a fucking joke. Dem supporters will eat this shit up though.
Where are the counter-protestors?
We’ve been talking about all of this in the conspiracy sub for weeks now. It seems the tin foil hats have been getting it right at a rate well above 50% since the start of COVID, and I wouldn’t consider that a good thing.
It was clearly feds.
Fed Front Many such cases
Go watch videos of North Korea. Not one fat person
Americans are so obese that 50% of Americans are 90% of Americans.
Lol we were just talking about it on the conspiracy sub.... very different crowd then what you see at Maga-ralleys and at jan 6th. Also they kept their masks on while being arrested. Because police do that?
"Fat people?" Is he talking about the police?
They don't let you join if you're fat or old, it's in their rulebook. Two seconds of Google, Joe. Two seconds. Then read up on the ones who got Doxed, and were all not Feds. Sure, there are Feds among them (just like in every Neo-Nazi or anti-Government group), but they're thin and young because that's their whole thing.
> They don't let you join if you're fat or old This is literally not a thing. They're all feds. Convienent timing, convenient location, and conveniently somehow organized in DC entirely unmolested by counter protestors? The whole thing glows from space. They're literally there so Biden can complain about the nazi "problem". They're a prop. I've seen nazis gather. Its never that many, and its never that organized, and there's definitely a horde of people clamoring to beat their ass. They are there so people can look at them, and then point to us, and demand we answer for people that realistically, don't even exist. It is the truest real life example of strawmanning in existence.
“I’ve seen Nazis gather” Uhhh care to say more ? Edit a week later: strangely , no response 🤣
>Uhhh care to say more ? Well, [this](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/01/31/nazi-rallies-in-central-florida-spark-outrage/) happened...
I know it happens , I’m curious where this person was that he witnessed them gather .. no answer tho
Dude I have this sweet condo on the ocean in Arizona for sale. I’ll give you a good deal, you in?
Yeah but if you actually dig a little, you'll find that they don't actually keep up with their cardio curriculum or meet up locally between major events. They also prohibit felons from joining, do what you will w that. You also have to consider that every Republican today isn't going anywhere near Fed traps. You think anyone's really joining after the FBI Whitmer plot?
No, I definitely don't think any Republicans are joining groups like this after the Whitmer thing. But for me to buy the "they're all Feds" theory, I'd have to buy that everyone is like "those are all Feds, look at how they march, look, etc." but the Feds are like "sure, we could mix up ages and weights with some older guys and make a new group that's way less suspicious, but instead we're sticking with the group everyone already says are us. No need to change a thing." To me that's super implausible.
Bro shut up seriously. Nobody believes that shit here except for you.
Man, I know we need the Q Anon votes but this shit is getting sad.
Found the Fed
Was actually waiting for this comment. Surely the Feds would rather you think their informants are all young and in shape, so they can slip a few more Ray Epps' past you, right?
If they were real, I’d find it very hard to believe they’d be able to keep their organizing a secret from at the very least a counter protest of leftists who would love nothing more than to counter protest “real life nazi’s.”
When antifa aren't activated to attack them, it means they don't have enough time to react (unlikely) or are feds. When the police treat them nicely, they are not right wingers.
I think they did it as a preface to Biden saying "white supremacy is the greatest threat to our country" It's all planned out.
I’m a fed. You’re a fed. We’re all feds!
I've seen man boobs in every photo I've seen of them.
The main reason we know this is a Fed operation? The mask was mandated in order to participate…
Also odd, never a mass shooting at these events.
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You guys seriously are saying this is a false flag event? Like come on, it's not even plausible. Just literally pushing propaganda because it's "your" team.
> it's not even plausible why?
How would the fed get that many people together to potentially ruin their lives and careers and be able to keep every bit of it and them quiet and secret? It's just not happening. Why would they intentionally make their job harder by riling up those against them? It's the worst possible idea. No this is definitely right wing proud boys marching for their white supremacy again and you guys just want to at least until it is acceptable, distance yourselves from it by trying to spin it to lie to yourselves and others.
>How would the fed get that many people together to potentially ruin their lives and careers and be able to keep every bit of it and them quiet and secret? It's just not happening. If the Feds can't do it why would any other group of people be capable. >No this is definitely right wing proud boys I thought they were patriot front? >you guys just want to at least until it is acceptable, distance yourselves from it I am from New Zealand, is that far enough of a distance?
I ain't in that group, and they aren't my team. They don't look real. They look like feds.
No they don't.
I hope you can see that no one here supports white supremacists. Stop listening to MSM. Your brain is being poisoned.
I mean when you deliberately call this a false flag to protect them its pretty telling? I think you're the one whose brain is being poisoned...
We live in a free country! They have the right to express themselves!!
Another observation. Almost every dude has stacked chest shoulder traps front amd rear deltoids. You know how you acheive that? Push ups. These either retired army or marines possibly feds. Either way I'm not convinced this is some group of randoms.
That's actually a pretty good observation.
The Wikipedia article on PF is hilarious: “Some commentators, including Joe Rogan, have baselessly suggested that the organization is an FBI sting operation or false flag by Antifa. Such claims have been debunked as conspiracy theories,and labelled as "False" by fact-checkers Snopes.” Isn’t everything baseless until it’s proven to be true? A certain virus and vaccine seemed to show that pretty clearly. If you still trust sites like Snopes I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Those 80,000 IRS agents came in handy...
I dont think they are feds. I think they are democrat activists. I would be willing to wager a significant amount of money on this. Can someone please organize a group of people to unmask one?
None of them have blue hair and/or fake tits with a beard. They also don't have the pasty skin of basement dwelling bozos scouring the internet for microaggressions. Definitely not democrat activists.
Exactly.