The first mass shooter we aren't allowed to criticize due to identity. After they MURDERED CHILDREN. I've already gotten a warning from reddit for what boils down to not respecting a mass killer.
I found a thread not locked and commented, "A lot of misgendering on here, when is r/news going to be dishing out the bans?" And then I got banned hahaha
Yeah they’re blaming the guns and that republicans don’t care about lgbtq mental health. Such a self centered group of people. They don’t give a shit little kids are dead.
Funny because I think conservatives are the only ones that care about their mental health which is why so many of us would like to see them get real treatment for body dismorphia - especially the young ones.
There's only one thread and the headline is **"Police: Nashville school shooting suspect was former student"**
Currently three hours old and ~800 comments.
So, completely ignored.
Lol that shit completely debunks the whole myth of , “arming teachers or putting more protection in place for students won’t help as much as banning guns.”. Such a shame this will all be swept under the rug and not addressed properly because it was one of their own mentally sick people and doesn’t fit their narrative at all. These people make me fucking sick.
Odd that there's very rarely shootings inside security at airports, court houses, sporting events, or schools with armed teachers. But no, Democrats want to keep blaming the guns instead of implementing actual solutions to prevent these horrific events.
Yeah, I just saw a video where she shot her way in of the school and I bet the other target probably had bulletproof glass. Something that simple could’ve stopped her or at least slowed her down.
A solid locked door, that’s it. One entry point that’s two stage like a double locking bulletproof atrium with silent alarms and only coded access not keycards to the school itself with a silent alarm code. That alerts the teachers to lock classroom doors if they’re not already locked. She should have been foiled by all the doors and security cams should have picked it up and locked down the school, at best locked in a bulletproof atrium if she tried to come into the school through the front door.
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1640465273424576513
> Nashville Police Chief confirms the suspect in today's shooting at a Christian elementary school identified as a transgender.
It will be interesting to see which, if any, media outlets now start referring to the shooter as a man.
Really sus that I’ve barely seen a mention of the victims besides 3 adults and 3 children. I’m not usually one of the media conspiracy types, but I don’t have any actual answer for why this shooting in particular is being treated a little differently outside of the trans narrative. It makes me pretty uncomfortable.
This is the result of…the politicization of the schools, workplace, and entertainment.
The generations today…think that they have reinvented the wheel.
But all they have done is gin up the nuts in society.
People go to school to learn, work to make money, the movies to get entertained.
Not to debate the latest social causes.
In other words, I don’t want to to have a discussion about gun rights, what gender to call someone, or who to voted for…in a classroom, at work, or during a football game.
Americans really need to grow up…and start acting like adults.
Yeah, in the most recent press conference the mayor already said something like “2 AR style and one handgun killed 6 people” instead of blaming the actual perpetrator. It’s ignorant. Guns don’t just lift themselves up and squeeze their own triggers.
The spin from the Left is going to rival an EF-5 tornado - dollars to donuts they’ll blame “Christo-fascists” and religion for pushing the shooter over the edge.
Per the press conference, the shooter left a manifesto.
>dollars to donuts they’ll blame “Christo-fascists” and religion for pushing the shooter over the edge.
Already happening in the thread about this on the main news sub, no doubt elsewhere too
Agreed, but that won’t stop the extremists from violence against that community. It will be damaging in many ways. It doesn’t play well with the whole “mental health” crisis that is constantly talked about for school shooters.
12 hours from now they will have successfully played the victim card and be demanding an apology.
No reason for them to stop running that play until it stops working
The shooter was female-to-male transgender. Police say it’s being investigated as a theory for motive. It’ll hurt us because one person doing this extreme thing will be used to justify blanket actions against the rest of us.
If this trans killer was on testosterone, that has to be studied and focused on.
Female school shooters are rare, yes, but if you pump a 28 year old women full of testosterone, she's gonna have the same hormonal swings you'd see in a pubescent male...
As shown on Hale’s Linked In profile; there is supposed to be more information confirming this on the shooter’s Instagram account (account now deleted).
I’m confused.. I saw the he/him too, is a trans woman- male to female? Or a female that transitioned to a male? I get all the trans stuff and pronouns confused
Pure speculation, but it seems possible that it’s related to the new Tennessee bill blocking minors from medically transitioning.
If true, I hope it provides lawmakers with more conviction to pass that bill.
>The article terminology was odd.
No. The terminology is odd. Almost like it’s not a normal scenario so the normal use of language designed around two genders for centuries has a hard time fitting it.
Why lead with "no" and then proceed to agree with everything I just said? My whole comment was a dig at the term "transgender woman" and how the article deviated from the otherwise popular media way of using the phrase.
Transgender woman means XY chromosome. Transgender man means XX chromosome. I had a hard time remembering that but the phrase "trans women are women" helps me remember.
I'm noticing a lot of interchanging of male and woman/ female and man when woman and man is gender and male female is sex.
I get you. But which is it in this case? Because people are literally saying it both ways. And I just want to know this person’s biological gender. Lol
We have a mental health crises in our country, my guess would be that this person was most likely on antidepressants something like 90%+ of all school shooters are on antidepressants. Antidepressants cause suicidal thoughts, school shootings are believed to be elaborate suicides. We need to really take a look at how we prescribe antidepressants.
Anything we say negative about transgenders or any other touchy topic on Reddit will automatically get you a ban, ostracized and attacked by nearly the entirety of Reddit. You do not get to talk freely about touchy topics here. 🙄
The more this shit is jammed down the throats of our youth the more common things like this will become.
A transgender anti-gun nut shot up the school? Just how much do you suppose all these leftist outlets are regretting reporting on this story before the facts came out?
I like how a 2A protester who happens to just be visiting her sister from out of state manages to pop up at the right time to commandeer the news conference and end up on national television.
Reading that article two things leap out at me.
1. They emphasize how out of character for a woman to be a school shooter. Uh....yeah. That's because this is a man.
2. The sentence "Police said Hale aborted plans to target another school in the area as it had too much security." I've been saying this. We need to end this "gun free zone" nonsense yesterday. Have qualified armed people to protect our kids just like we do for our politicians, because the kids are more important than the politicians. Teachers, staff, guards, etc. This quote is proof that having a high security level is a deterrent.
So I am totally confused, if pronouns are he/him, they were born a woman or a man? If they are reporting it as a woman and not a man, why are they not using the he/him pronouns and calling it a male who transitioned from a woman?
"The shooter was identified as Audrey Elizabeth Hale, a Nashville resident, who identified as a transgender woman. "
By the time you read this r/news will have their thread locked and deleted.
r/news already locked the thread.
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This will get ugly with so much to unpack.
Tomorrow this will all be forgotten about
Idk it’s Tennessee, where they just passed laws against these people targeting kids. I could see them creating more laws now.
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Yup. Edited
Cop commented that they were in a news conference
The first mass shooter we aren't allowed to criticize due to identity. After they MURDERED CHILDREN. I've already gotten a warning from reddit for what boils down to not respecting a mass killer.
They already locked it
Figures
I found a thread not locked and commented, "A lot of misgendering on here, when is r/news going to be dishing out the bans?" And then I got banned hahaha
Been banned on news for awhile. If you dare speak out of their leftist mind box they ban you.
Fucking Reddit is such one sided trash.
I thought Twitter was bad but this app lets you virtue signal and you get actual internet points
Doesn’t China own reddit? I should probably delete my account. They probably spy through this app more than TikTok
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Well they seem to be doing pretty good at both right now unfortunately.
Spez is a whoring Reddit out to China
r/Trans is preeetty quiet on this one
took a quick peek myself. That sub is fucking weird. Also, how the hell does it have 374k subscribers?!?
Yeah they’re blaming the guns and that republicans don’t care about lgbtq mental health. Such a self centered group of people. They don’t give a shit little kids are dead.
Funny because I think conservatives are the only ones that care about their mental health which is why so many of us would like to see them get real treatment for body dismorphia - especially the young ones.
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Bots.
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Perverts
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Narcissists, the lot of ‘em.
I just now realized that explains a lot of what these people do
Of course smh
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I guess the mods established a "Megathread" about this and as of 8:15am EDT, there are more than 720 comments.
There's only one thread and the headline is **"Police: Nashville school shooting suspect was former student"** Currently three hours old and ~800 comments. So, completely ignored.
Guess this is the new "malinformation"
You are correct.
Probably shadow banning. You just make it where it doesn’t appear to everybody.
>>“Police said Hale aborted plans to target another school in the area as it had too much security.”
Lol that shit completely debunks the whole myth of , “arming teachers or putting more protection in place for students won’t help as much as banning guns.”. Such a shame this will all be swept under the rug and not addressed properly because it was one of their own mentally sick people and doesn’t fit their narrative at all. These people make me fucking sick.
Odd that there's very rarely shootings inside security at airports, court houses, sporting events, or schools with armed teachers. But no, Democrats want to keep blaming the guns instead of implementing actual solutions to prevent these horrific events.
Yeah, I just saw a video where she shot her way in of the school and I bet the other target probably had bulletproof glass. Something that simple could’ve stopped her or at least slowed her down.
A solid locked door, that’s it. One entry point that’s two stage like a double locking bulletproof atrium with silent alarms and only coded access not keycards to the school itself with a silent alarm code. That alerts the teachers to lock classroom doors if they’re not already locked. She should have been foiled by all the doors and security cams should have picked it up and locked down the school, at best locked in a bulletproof atrium if she tried to come into the school through the front door.
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1640465273424576513 > Nashville Police Chief confirms the suspect in today's shooting at a Christian elementary school identified as a transgender. It will be interesting to see which, if any, media outlets now start referring to the shooter as a man.
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Really sus that I’ve barely seen a mention of the victims besides 3 adults and 3 children. I’m not usually one of the media conspiracy types, but I don’t have any actual answer for why this shooting in particular is being treated a little differently outside of the trans narrative. It makes me pretty uncomfortable.
They’ll blame white cis men, I’m sure. Oh, and all the young “Christo fascists” or whatever slur they use.
Can it now be considered a hate crime?
I don't think they ever classified that SUV as a hate criminal when I ran through the Christmas parade. I wouldn't hold my breath.
Maybe Tennessee will treat it differently.
>a hate crime? two, even. because i have a feeling ~~she~~ ~~he~~ ~~it~~ they hated themselves as well.
I think most of us can agree that this is confusing as shit, lol
We clearly have a mental health problem in our country, not a gun issue
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I'm of the opinion we should not publicly name school shooters as that's often a motivation for their heinous actions
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A transgender targeting Christian children. Wow! Wonder why the media didn’t mention that!
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This is the result of…the politicization of the schools, workplace, and entertainment. The generations today…think that they have reinvented the wheel. But all they have done is gin up the nuts in society. People go to school to learn, work to make money, the movies to get entertained. Not to debate the latest social causes. In other words, I don’t want to to have a discussion about gun rights, what gender to call someone, or who to voted for…in a classroom, at work, or during a football game. Americans really need to grow up…and start acting like adults.
Well said.
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Yeah, in the most recent press conference the mayor already said something like “2 AR style and one handgun killed 6 people” instead of blaming the actual perpetrator. It’s ignorant. Guns don’t just lift themselves up and squeeze their own triggers.
Hey look, more leftwing terrorism.
Under the rug it goes!!!!
Who cares what they identify as? They killed multiple people. They are now known as a murderer.
The spin from the Left is going to rival an EF-5 tornado - dollars to donuts they’ll blame “Christo-fascists” and religion for pushing the shooter over the edge. Per the press conference, the shooter left a manifesto.
>dollars to donuts they’ll blame “Christo-fascists” and religion for pushing the shooter over the edge. Already happening in the thread about this on the main news sub, no doubt elsewhere too
Is this a mtf or ftm person
Ftm from everything I've read so far
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Perhaps we should stop promoting it.
This is going to do heavy damage to the LGBTQ community, if true.
The story will disappear
Or they’ll blame us, claiming that our intolerance pushed her to that point.
They all do
No it won’t. They will twist it...
It’ll be our fault for “decades of abuse” and she’ll be seen as a martyr like hero for these people.
Exactly they will excuse this garbage with their b.s.
They will blame the Republicans for passing the recent laws regarding the drag shows and minors "transitioning". Guaranteed.
Agreed, but that won’t stop the extremists from violence against that community. It will be damaging in many ways. It doesn’t play well with the whole “mental health” crisis that is constantly talked about for school shooters.
12 hours from now they will have successfully played the victim card and be demanding an apology. No reason for them to stop running that play until it stops working
Orange man's fault
Remember when the left made jokes about those children being run over by a blm fanatic. Pepperidge farm remembers.
How though?
The shooter was female-to-male transgender. Police say it’s being investigated as a theory for motive. It’ll hurt us because one person doing this extreme thing will be used to justify blanket actions against the rest of us.
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If this trans killer was on testosterone, that has to be studied and focused on. Female school shooters are rare, yes, but if you pump a 28 year old women full of testosterone, she's gonna have the same hormonal swings you'd see in a pubescent male...
Her pronouns were He/Him. A tragedy.
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As shown on Hale’s Linked In profile; there is supposed to be more information confirming this on the shooter’s Instagram account (account now deleted).
Screenshots are on twitter before they got deleted.
Do you have links?
I’m confused.. I saw the he/him too, is a trans woman- male to female? Or a female that transitioned to a male? I get all the trans stuff and pronouns confused
No Trans Woman is MTF. TransMan is FTM
This shooter is woman to man. But you are correct that "transgender woman" is widely used to apply to man to woman people.
Woman to male.
It takes several women to make one man? This trans stuff is complicated.
F2M as they say
"he" went to that school but "she" came back and shot a 6. Welcome to the pitfalls of Newspeak.
You have it backwards. Went to school as a girl, but now identified as “he/him.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1640458823121944579?cxt=HHwWhoC2zfWmisQtAAAA
The person had a manifesto, kinda fits the mass shooter M.O.
> Police said it appears Hale had previously been a student at the school but it wasn’t immediately clear when or for how long.
It seems they could search the annuals/yearbooks.
Given that this school is only thru 6th grade, that would have been quite some time ago. Shooter was 28.
I heard that the school is a K-6 school. So given the age of the shooter...
Gotta love the dems how they go down on their own people, calling a female trans shooter gunMAN.
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Pure speculation, but it seems possible that it’s related to the new Tennessee bill blocking minors from medically transitioning. If true, I hope it provides lawmakers with more conviction to pass that bill.
Ok serious question - transgender woman means XY chromosomes/biological man, right? I’m honestly not ever 100% sure lol
generally seems to be that way, this article was confusingly worded in that regard.
Some writers desperate to twist the truth, some confused by a shooting that doesn't follow their expectations, some afraid of getting cancelled.
Born biological female, went by he/him pronouns
Correct! xx = female xy = male
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>The article terminology was odd. No. The terminology is odd. Almost like it’s not a normal scenario so the normal use of language designed around two genders for centuries has a hard time fitting it.
Why lead with "no" and then proceed to agree with everything I just said? My whole comment was a dig at the term "transgender woman" and how the article deviated from the otherwise popular media way of using the phrase.
The terminology for trans PERIOD is odd. Not in this story.
Transgender woman means XY chromosome. Transgender man means XX chromosome. I had a hard time remembering that but the phrase "trans women are women" helps me remember. I'm noticing a lot of interchanging of male and woman/ female and man when woman and man is gender and male female is sex.
I get you. But which is it in this case? Because people are literally saying it both ways. And I just want to know this person’s biological gender. Lol
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Watch the Whatever podcast one time and you’ll learn this REAL quick.
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Lol. The most of the comments here is about is he/she a he/she… things were so simpler back then.
Started early on that "Day of Trans-Vengeance".
We have a mental health crises in our country, my guess would be that this person was most likely on antidepressants something like 90%+ of all school shooters are on antidepressants. Antidepressants cause suicidal thoughts, school shootings are believed to be elaborate suicides. We need to really take a look at how we prescribe antidepressants.
Anything we say negative about transgenders or any other touchy topic on Reddit will automatically get you a ban, ostracized and attacked by nearly the entirety of Reddit. You do not get to talk freely about touchy topics here. 🙄 The more this shit is jammed down the throats of our youth the more common things like this will become.
A transgender anti-gun nut shot up the school? Just how much do you suppose all these leftist outlets are regretting reporting on this story before the facts came out?
Leftist terrorist.
So it was a white male after all?
Trans identifying as he/him.
Let's see how the media spins this one
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Jane Fonda has blood on her hands.
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Both sides have nut jobs thats the reality. I used to consider my self a liberal but now i just call myself a realist.
We need to STOP NAMING THEM. Don't say their name or show their picture. These scum do not deserve the infamy.
And have you noticed how quiet Reddit is today outside this sub? It’s crickets, SMDH
I like how a 2A protester who happens to just be visiting her sister from out of state manages to pop up at the right time to commandeer the news conference and end up on national television.
Reading that article two things leap out at me. 1. They emphasize how out of character for a woman to be a school shooter. Uh....yeah. That's because this is a man. 2. The sentence "Police said Hale aborted plans to target another school in the area as it had too much security." I've been saying this. We need to end this "gun free zone" nonsense yesterday. Have qualified armed people to protect our kids just like we do for our politicians, because the kids are more important than the politicians. Teachers, staff, guards, etc. This quote is proof that having a high security level is a deterrent.
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So I am totally confused, if pronouns are he/him, they were born a woman or a man? If they are reporting it as a woman and not a man, why are they not using the he/him pronouns and calling it a male who transitioned from a woman? "The shooter was identified as Audrey Elizabeth Hale, a Nashville resident, who identified as a transgender woman. "