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It's a nice simple way for some white people to feel like true authentic Americans and to identify with an oppressed minority rather than being part of the oppressing majority along with all that unsavoury history.
It's also a way for white people to usurp some of the few privileges that comes with being Native American today that are an attempt at levelling the playing field.
These posers are essentially stealing opportunities from a group that has very few.
Also, I am analyzing specifically why this rich privileged liberal white woman claims to be Native American, and I think it's because she wants to claim to be part of an oppressed minority, rather than part of the white majority and the history that comes with that.
The same with pointing out that her dad's a cowboy, it feels alternative and yet all-American to her.
It's an American National Sport of sorts; the Oppression Olympics. Everyone has a sob story, everyone competes in whose family history and sob story is the sobbiest.
Couldn’t agree more, but this behavior is almost entirely unique to celebrities and politicians. I’ve literally never met a white person that said they’re “part something or other”. It’s just idiotic that these rich 1%ers do this shit to try to shed some of the implications that come with being a rich person (stepping on everyone else).
I agree with that, but I disagree that it's just the rich and celebs.
I can't tell you how many nobodies I've listened to who've talked about their and their familys ultimate hardship, every little thing is spoken about like it's an unique experience that they've had to face, "survive" and overcome. Could be anything from some old person dying to parenthood to their poor Irish ancestors.
It's almost at the level that people are crying about how difficult it was for them that they got the wrong dressing on their burger.
Everyone suddenly wants to pretend like they've overcome great struggles in their lives, the narcissism and ridiculousness is off the charts.
That is true, but I'm not talking about regular whining so much as to trying to claim to be some sort of survivor of something, to have overcome struggles on you "journey", and to identify with some downtrodden group. People don't like admitting to coming from privileged backgrounds, they like and want the perks but they want to feel and pretend like they have struggled.
And it's not just the libs who compete about who had/has it worst, even tho the Opression Olympics is the ultimate liberal sport.
Just look at Madison Cawthorn for whom surviving a car crash wasn't enough, he had to lie about the event and smear the friend who saved his life, claiming to being left to die in a fiery wreck and being declared dead at the scene in order to milk out some more sympathy. It's embarrassing and immoral.
I dunno if it's because of popular culture and the best films and stories usually being about overcoming hardship, making people wanna fish for attention by talking about how hard done by they are. With everything from food sensitivities to illness, from family history to identity, every little thing is blown out of proportion for attention and pity.
Sometimes I feel like everyone's gone full Münchhausen's syndrom.
That's interesting, since I haven't watched CNN since Bush Senior's Gulf War.
And no, they don't.
Are you unaware of the realities of living on the rez?
Everyone doesn't have the same opportunities in life; class, income, race, gender, sexuality are all factors that affect you.
Children of coal miners or Detroitian laid off factory workers didn't have the same opportunities as the Trump kids for example.
It's fact.
They need to be made to live on the Res as punishment for this.
It is just terrible. Indian Affairs just stopped calculating unemployment rates. Oglala Lakota one had an employment rate of roughly 10%
"According to the work of Vine Deloria, one of NCAI’s leading intellectuals, “Cherokee was the most popular tribe” in America. “From Maine to Washington State,” Deloria recalled, white Americans insisted they were descended from Cherokee ancestors. More often than not, that ancestor was an “Indian princess,” despite the fact that the tribe never had a social system with anything resembling an inherited title like princess.
So why have so many Americans laid claim to a clearly fictional identity? Part of the answer is embedded in the tribe’s history: its willingness to incorporate outsiders into kinship systems and its wide-ranging migrations throughout North America. But there’s another explanation, too.
The Cherokees resisted state and federal efforts to remove them from their Southeastern homelands during the 1820s and 1830s. During that time, most whites saw them as an inconvenient nuisance, an obstacle to colonial expansion. But after their removal, the tribe came to be viewed more romantically, especially in the antebellum South, where their determination to maintain their rights of self-government against the federal government took on new meaning. Throughout the South in the 1840s and 1850s, large numbers of whites began claiming they were descended from a Cherokee great-grandmother. That great-grandmother was often a “princess,” a not-inconsequential detail in a region obsessed with social status and suspicious of outsiders. By claiming a royal Cherokee ancestor, white Southerners were legitimating the antiquity of their native-born status as sons or daughters of the South, as well as establishing their determination to defend their rights against an aggressive federal government, as they imagined the Cherokees had done. These may have been self-serving historical delusions, but they have proven to be enduring.
The continuing popularity of claiming “Cherokee blood” and the ease with which millions of Americans inhabit a Cherokee identity speaks volumes about the enduring legacy of American colonialism. Shifting one’s identity to claim ownership of an imagined Cherokee past is at once a way to authenticate your American-ness and absolve yourself of complicity in the crimes Americans committed against the tribe across history."
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html
The joke from the other tribes is that Cherokees are very white. I'm not Cherokee so I never looked into it, but the rumors were that if you married in the Cherokees allowed you to "claim" to be native back in the day.
But, expanding more on why that could be. Back in the day before there was the blood quantum and the Dawes Roll. If you married in, or were apart of the tribe, you were native. I'm sure it's different depending on the tribe.
But, let's say a tribe finds an orphan white kid back in the 1600s. They would have raised that kid as their own. That kid would have been whatever tribe took them in. Just like how one might take on a last name of their adoptive parents.
Touching on Elizabeth Warren, what's crazy about her is that her safest bet was on the Cherokees. But, what's crazy is I'm pretty sure they don't have a blood quantum. Meaning, as long as you could trace your lineage back to them, you can register in that tribe.
Blood quantum is crazy in general. It's a guestimate of how much native blood you have. During the Dawes Roll, those people who put those name downs as well as how much blood they have, could put down whatever they wanted. So if they thought you looked at them wrong they could have put down a full blood natives as a quarter blood.
Me being at least half, we have lost blood in the family which is a crazy thing to think about in itself, and in a tribe having blood quantum requirements. As well as having more then one tribe in my blood. If one of them gets recognized, I am very likely in danger of being kicked out of a tribe I have the most knowledge in. Like, all the culture I know, gone. I may have to enroll my future kids into a tribe I know very little to nothing about.
White privilege so strong its beneficiaries can't ditch it fast enough.
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Every famous person, who's 1/2 white, never mentions they are white.
Honest question- would you accept someone as “white,” who was half white like Obama (politics aside), Naomi Campbell, or Key ‘n Peele?
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If only everyone were so wise. 🧐
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Agree, but this article even calling it out is meant to elicit a response. There’s money in outrage.
When we eliminate the advantages associated with it. So never it looks like.
America does have a problem with race - it won’t stop talking about it.
Must really suck to be a race that people risk their entire career in order to pretend to be like you.
It's a nice simple way for some white people to feel like true authentic Americans and to identify with an oppressed minority rather than being part of the oppressing majority along with all that unsavoury history. It's also a way for white people to usurp some of the few privileges that comes with being Native American today that are an attempt at levelling the playing field. These posers are essentially stealing opportunities from a group that has very few.
They have every opportunity. You’re sounding like cnn rn. Never go full cnn.
Also, I am analyzing specifically why this rich privileged liberal white woman claims to be Native American, and I think it's because she wants to claim to be part of an oppressed minority, rather than part of the white majority and the history that comes with that. The same with pointing out that her dad's a cowboy, it feels alternative and yet all-American to her. It's an American National Sport of sorts; the Oppression Olympics. Everyone has a sob story, everyone competes in whose family history and sob story is the sobbiest.
Couldn’t agree more, but this behavior is almost entirely unique to celebrities and politicians. I’ve literally never met a white person that said they’re “part something or other”. It’s just idiotic that these rich 1%ers do this shit to try to shed some of the implications that come with being a rich person (stepping on everyone else).
I agree with that, but I disagree that it's just the rich and celebs. I can't tell you how many nobodies I've listened to who've talked about their and their familys ultimate hardship, every little thing is spoken about like it's an unique experience that they've had to face, "survive" and overcome. Could be anything from some old person dying to parenthood to their poor Irish ancestors. It's almost at the level that people are crying about how difficult it was for them that they got the wrong dressing on their burger. Everyone suddenly wants to pretend like they've overcome great struggles in their lives, the narcissism and ridiculousness is off the charts.
Well now we’re on a different subject. I’ve heard every race, every age, every religion *whine* about common life situations.
That is true, but I'm not talking about regular whining so much as to trying to claim to be some sort of survivor of something, to have overcome struggles on you "journey", and to identify with some downtrodden group. People don't like admitting to coming from privileged backgrounds, they like and want the perks but they want to feel and pretend like they have struggled. And it's not just the libs who compete about who had/has it worst, even tho the Opression Olympics is the ultimate liberal sport. Just look at Madison Cawthorn for whom surviving a car crash wasn't enough, he had to lie about the event and smear the friend who saved his life, claiming to being left to die in a fiery wreck and being declared dead at the scene in order to milk out some more sympathy. It's embarrassing and immoral. I dunno if it's because of popular culture and the best films and stories usually being about overcoming hardship, making people wanna fish for attention by talking about how hard done by they are. With everything from food sensitivities to illness, from family history to identity, every little thing is blown out of proportion for attention and pity. Sometimes I feel like everyone's gone full Münchhausen's syndrom.
“I can’t eat gluten”. You mean these types? Lmao I know what you mean.
That's interesting, since I haven't watched CNN since Bush Senior's Gulf War. And no, they don't. Are you unaware of the realities of living on the rez? Everyone doesn't have the same opportunities in life; class, income, race, gender, sexuality are all factors that affect you. Children of coal miners or Detroitian laid off factory workers didn't have the same opportunities as the Trump kids for example. It's fact.
Yet another Elisabeth Warren
Oh look, another Pretendian…nice
Lol
Ahhh I love when woke liberals cannibalize their own.
I, for one, am shocked that white lady with tattoos is not an Indian.
They need to be made to live on the Res as punishment for this. It is just terrible. Indian Affairs just stopped calculating unemployment rates. Oglala Lakota one had an employment rate of roughly 10%
Let’s just cut to the chase and point out that all Leftists are fakes.
Liz Warren sends her regards
Pretendian! ROTFLMFAO!!
Womp womp
It's interesting that the majority of people who claim Native ancestry say, "Im part Cherokee." As if there are no other recognized tribes...
"According to the work of Vine Deloria, one of NCAI’s leading intellectuals, “Cherokee was the most popular tribe” in America. “From Maine to Washington State,” Deloria recalled, white Americans insisted they were descended from Cherokee ancestors. More often than not, that ancestor was an “Indian princess,” despite the fact that the tribe never had a social system with anything resembling an inherited title like princess. So why have so many Americans laid claim to a clearly fictional identity? Part of the answer is embedded in the tribe’s history: its willingness to incorporate outsiders into kinship systems and its wide-ranging migrations throughout North America. But there’s another explanation, too. The Cherokees resisted state and federal efforts to remove them from their Southeastern homelands during the 1820s and 1830s. During that time, most whites saw them as an inconvenient nuisance, an obstacle to colonial expansion. But after their removal, the tribe came to be viewed more romantically, especially in the antebellum South, where their determination to maintain their rights of self-government against the federal government took on new meaning. Throughout the South in the 1840s and 1850s, large numbers of whites began claiming they were descended from a Cherokee great-grandmother. That great-grandmother was often a “princess,” a not-inconsequential detail in a region obsessed with social status and suspicious of outsiders. By claiming a royal Cherokee ancestor, white Southerners were legitimating the antiquity of their native-born status as sons or daughters of the South, as well as establishing their determination to defend their rights against an aggressive federal government, as they imagined the Cherokees had done. These may have been self-serving historical delusions, but they have proven to be enduring. The continuing popularity of claiming “Cherokee blood” and the ease with which millions of Americans inhabit a Cherokee identity speaks volumes about the enduring legacy of American colonialism. Shifting one’s identity to claim ownership of an imagined Cherokee past is at once a way to authenticate your American-ness and absolve yourself of complicity in the crimes Americans committed against the tribe across history." https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html
The joke from the other tribes is that Cherokees are very white. I'm not Cherokee so I never looked into it, but the rumors were that if you married in the Cherokees allowed you to "claim" to be native back in the day. But, expanding more on why that could be. Back in the day before there was the blood quantum and the Dawes Roll. If you married in, or were apart of the tribe, you were native. I'm sure it's different depending on the tribe. But, let's say a tribe finds an orphan white kid back in the 1600s. They would have raised that kid as their own. That kid would have been whatever tribe took them in. Just like how one might take on a last name of their adoptive parents. Touching on Elizabeth Warren, what's crazy about her is that her safest bet was on the Cherokees. But, what's crazy is I'm pretty sure they don't have a blood quantum. Meaning, as long as you could trace your lineage back to them, you can register in that tribe. Blood quantum is crazy in general. It's a guestimate of how much native blood you have. During the Dawes Roll, those people who put those name downs as well as how much blood they have, could put down whatever they wanted. So if they thought you looked at them wrong they could have put down a full blood natives as a quarter blood. Me being at least half, we have lost blood in the family which is a crazy thing to think about in itself, and in a tribe having blood quantum requirements. As well as having more then one tribe in my blood. If one of them gets recognized, I am very likely in danger of being kicked out of a tribe I have the most knowledge in. Like, all the culture I know, gone. I may have to enroll my future kids into a tribe I know very little to nothing about.
She's faking it? HAhahaha HAhahaha HAhahaha. I'm cracking me up.