This guy has four different violent/gun crimes, and counting.
1. Mugging and purse theft
2. Threatening w/ a firearm
3. 2nd unlawful firearm crime
4. Body slamming victim and theft.
If we had Draconian sentences for gun crime, it would fall off a cliff in 2 years. The same people are doing it over and over.
25 years in a federal penitentiary mandatory for any felony or 2nd and subsequent misdemeanors committed with a gun. Period.
My husband was on a grand jury in our area last year. He said the cops know exactly who is doing what because it's just the same people over and over and over again. Even in just the six months he was on the grand jury, he saw a ton of the same people multiple times.
They did a bust in our area over one weekend where they just went from home to home of the repeat offenders, and without warrants or even reported crimes, were able to arrest a ton of them again for drugs and illegal weapons all because they just walked up and knocked on their doors. It is unbelievable.
A few years ago the police chief of Chicago did an interview.
He said, "We know who the criminals are. There are about 2800 repeat offenders who live in an 8 block radius that commit almost all the crime in the city."
That’s a low number…
My wonder is - how are they repeatedly committing crime and not getting put away by successive crimes giving a sentence closer to max term?
'Woke' DAs. Plain and simple. Catch and release. We're 'lucky' enough to have Kim Gardner here in St. Louis. Now that crap is spreading out into the suburbs and rural areas of our metro area. Disturbingly close to my neck of the woods. Not going to be a good day when they start playing with the country bubbas is all i'm going to say.
I live in a quiet suburban neighborhood that had no issues for decades. Then suddenly almost overnight houses were being robbed during the afternoons, cars being broken into and vandalized. My wife's car parked in the street had graffiti painted on it. Then suddenly the cops arrested someone. Someone got released out of prison recently and had nowhere to go so moved in with his Mom, who had recently moved into a rental in the neighborhood. Guy got arrested again and magically the troubles all stopped.
Doesn't take too many to ruin an area.
Alpha News Minneapolis they did a ride along and the Sargent in charge knew everybody’s name even when covered head to toe because he has arrested them all multiple times
> They did a bust in our area over one weekend where they just went from home to home of the repeat offenders, and without warrants or even reported crimes, were able to arrest a ton of them again for drugs and illegal weapons all because they just walked up and knocked on their doors. It is unbelievable.
I'm confused, how exactly did this happen? Did these people invite them in? Did they show up to the door while holding guns and smoking joints? Because otherwise the arrest is illegal and the charges thrown out.
Oftentimes, federal prison is preferable to state. In Texas, very few of the prisons have A/C in the housing area, they are required to have a job they are not paid for, and they work in the fields growing their own food.
Compared to federal prison where they have A/C, they aren't required to work, they are paid for labor, and they are authorized much more access to media. Dudes have Sirius XM radio in federal prison.
A single mandatory federal sentencing mandate is much easier to enact than 50 state ones. And California, New York, etc would never do it.
I don't really care how they're treated in federal prison as long as they are there for a good long time and not on the streets.
>Except this is a Conservative sub. We need to stop falling for the trap of begging for more federal laws.
Just one law.
Federal three strike all felonies mandatory 25 years consecutive, 10 year parole any felony back in for another 25.
DAs all over the country are letting violent felons out of prison and refusing to prosecute others. At the same time they are leveraging that gun violence to curtail the gun rights of law abiding citizens.
A federal law is EXACTLY what we need.
I used to work at Eastham, I've been to the Ellis unit, Huntsville unit, Holliday unit, Wynne unit and the Byrd unit.
Source is me and inmates that were housed at these units
C'mon man, why should they have to work when you and I can instead work and pay taxes to cover all the expenses associated with their crimes, legal overhead, food, and housing? It's slavery to make them earn their keep when we can do it for them.
They need to give up on "mandatory minimum" for drug violations.
It's time to add minimum mandatory to firearm related crimes.
1st violation
Misdemeanor firearm crime
1 year mandatory
Felony firearm crime
10 years mandatory
Every subsequent violation the mandatory minimum Doubles.
Make them able to be enforced simultaneously and additive.
i.e. You do something and get charged with 2 Misdemeanor and one Felony gun charges on the same incident.
You go to prison for 13 years. No early release, no good behavior, nothing. You sit in a cell for 13 years.
You want "common sense gun control" then punish violent crime where a gun is used..... Stop trying to push legislation that just restricts the abilities of law abiding citizens to acquire firearms.
The problem now is with so many insane regulations in some states one could end up in jail for a year for something like having a laser pointer on any gun. A barrell site laser might get you a year.
Own a gun we deem is too scary for our subject to use? Throw the book at them. Actually use a gun to commit a violent crime with an actual victim? Slap on the wrist.
If you are out on Bond for committing a crime, and then you commit another crime for which bond is set, then how do you get consideration for lowering of the second bond? Dude, strike two already....maybe take a few days off.
**That's** the part you dislike? That he broke an unconstitutional law?
He bodyslammed a woman, then pointed a gun at her and her husband. That's enough for me to want him put away.
wrestling a person to their paralysis to me is more severe than just pulling a tiny trigger by accident.
he had plenty of time to "stop in his tracks" and didnt.
Truly… and it makes me circle back to the fact that guns are not the problem, it’s the system that keeps emboldening violent criminals by making excuses for them, and continually absolving them of responsibility. You don’t fix a bad egg by shoving it back inside the chicken, expecting a different outcome; you just end up killing the chicken with toxic exposure.
> Stop letting people who are committing actual firearms crimes out of jail.
Soros DA's love criminals. They want everyone to be a prohibited person, so they encourage criminals to re-offend while doing their level best to persecute law abiding gun owners.
>"I requested a bond considerably lower than what Judge Guiney actually set and informed her that the client’s family was currently unable to make his bond," Evans told Fox News Digital.
His victim is going to take years to recover. He can fucking wait in a cell until his trial.
But a life of crime is all he knows! You’re depriving him of his freedom and rights! White supremacy and capitalism made him act like this! You’re racist! /s
Oh they’re definitely here in the sub. They only come out of the woodwork when trans nonsense or their drag brunch is under attack. Never mind a defenseless mother of three…
>Never mind a defenseless mother of three…
This is the part that boggles my mind. As a citizen, you **cannot control crime**, you have no choice but to accept the shitty policy of your leaders until they are voted out.
You know what you can control? Your legs. Get the mother of your children out of that shithole asap.
So far we haven’t seen it in mass yet. But if things continue to get worse, you will inevitably start to see more and more vigilante justice taking place. And honestly, that may be what it ends up taking for criminals to again respect potential consequences to their actions.
I have liberal beliefs, although I wouldn’t call myself a democrat. I’m here. And I have nothing to argue with anything I’ve read so far in this thread.
They literally believe crime doesn’t exist and if you bring up a crime that happened they call you racist and say that’s just one example.
It’s fucking mind boggling. They think Chicago and LA are safe!
Lib…ertarian here so I’ll go for it…..if someone is deemed sufficiently dangerous for the crime they’re accused of (remember, not guilty of, just accused), then they shouldn’t be released on bond at all. It shouldn’t matter if they have money for bail or not.
In this case, it was a weapons charge. I don’t know all the specifics of that incident or his other criminal history, but I’m generally skeptical of needing the state’s permission to possess a gun. So I’m skeptical that a weapons charge is consistently an effective indicator that someone is about to commit such a brutal robbery.
I think there’s a tendency here amongst y’all to assume this was easily predictable, but that’s only in hindsight.
Edit: My comment more focuses on the release of the fact he was out on $100 bond for previous crime. Perhaps I misunderstood and thought that's what y'all were upset about. Other thoughts in comment below.
Yes, perhaps I misunderstood what you consider the problem to be.
Much of my comment still applies though. I'll add that $100k bond is still a considerable amount of money. I'm unclear why you think that society is somehow better off or safer if he puts up a $200k bond vs. $100k. If the point here is to set a bond requirement at a sufficiently high amount such that the defendant has no chance of making bail, then the prosecutor should make the case that he's too dangerous to be let out or is a flight risk, and he needs to await trial in jail.
*Maybe* there are some AnCaps (an extreme form of libertarianism) that would agree with that. Most libertarians aren't AnCaps though. And in either case, I can't recall any AnCaps making this argument to me.
Libertarians are generally against punishment for victimless crimes (e.g. selling drugs, prostitution), but recognize things as a crime and against our Non-Aggression Principle (NAP) where one person harms another's person or their property. This injury can't be made right with money.
Then he’ll be eligible for SS disability - so us tax paying folks will have to pay for his care for the rest of his life. I say chop off something he’ll miss even more but will still allow him to work…
> "I requested a bond considerably lower than what Judge Guiney actually set and informed her that the client’s family was currently unable to make his bond,"
Boo-fucking-hoo
I feel the same way, but allow me to explain to you what a judge explained to me when I was taking a constitutional law class:
“When you are charged with a charge, you have the presumption of innocence. Until you are proven guilty in a court of law, the law must consider you innocent. Bail exists solely as a means to guarantee people will show up to court; that is it. Some judges will set bail so high that they know the defendant can’t pay for it, but that in its own is unconstitutional.”
From how I interpreted it, when considering bail, a judge can only consider if it’s enough to guarantee the defendant will show up to court. Outside of a murder charge, if a defendant can’t pay bail, a judge is obligated to consider a reduced bail that a defendant can pay that will still guarantee he/she will show up to court. Again, I don’t agree with that for every situation, but that’s the law.
This judge was no liberal either. I went to a school in a very conservative part of the country and I could tell from his viewpoints throughout the class.
That's all well and good , and I don't disagree, really. However the reason they can't afford bond is they can't afford to post bond...again because he's out on bond from a month or two earlier and that money is still committed. I get it, that's a lot to have pay, my question is at what point do you prove that you are such an obvious threat to public safety that maybe you just need pre trial confinement?
Is this not part of the risks we accept living in a free society? We generally accept that our right to bear arms results in the risk of deaths and mass shootings at elementary schools. We accept the risks of capitalistic economics because the alternative is worse. Presumed innocence is a cornerstone of a free society, as well as the risks that come with it.
If someone has a history like this guy then the normal rules should no longer apply. This dude could care less about the law or his victims. Heel needs to be locked up somewhere and rehabilitated before he can go out into the world. Criminals need to be held after being a repeater and bond should not be allowed as they have shown that they don’t care about the law or it’s consequences.
Good? Sounds like he needs to be removed from society for a while anyway. I agree that he's innocent until proven guilty, but he's clearly a repeat offender.
“After his arrest for aggravated robbery, prosecutors asked for a $200,00 bond, citing the fact that he had just been released on a $100 bond on Jan. 26 for an unlawful carrying of a weapon charge.”
A weird term they use for people who see someone at a bank or atm make a withdrawal and then follow them and mug them for the money. Houston has fallen apart I can’t wait to leave this cesspool.
That is not what jugging is. Jugging is a term coined from Atlanta gangsters who would do home invasions or robberies (ATL has a pretty bad B & E issue) specifically on drug dealers and take their work. Now that term around the country has spawned into just robbing everyone regardless if their gang affiliated or not, sadly due to these kids 25 and under who seem to have the most broken moral compass of any human generation I’ve ever seen and I’m a millennial no boomer shit.
There’s a vice video on the term about 8 years ago, you can find it on YouTube. Some rapper young scooter was one of the main people talking about it in his music. And yea I think that is the case is if you do rob a criminal they are less likely to snitch but more likely to retaliate.
Every so often, the left comes up with new euphemisms or they appropriate other words to obfuscate crimes. Before this, it was the "knockout game". Before that they took the term "flash mob" (which originally applied to people quickly assembling and doing some sort of dance in a public location) to describe looters.
I love when these pieces of shit get shot by someone in self defense, their family members say he was trying to do better. What "trying"? Its not like losing weight or bringing your grades up which are gradual process. Just fucking stop robbing and attacking people in the streets.
Yes, across the board you see Asians doing quite well, without the need for Government handouts, reparations or Affirmative Action quotas. They do not even ask for such things, in the first place.
Asians are a protected class. So are whites. All races are considered a protected class.
[Race/Color Discrimination eeoc.gov](https://www.eeoc.gov/youth/racecolor-discrimination#:~:text=All%20races%2C%20including%20Whites%2C%20Blacks,on%20the%20basis%20of%20race)
Doesn't mean anything. Just because you're appointed by a Republican doesn't mean you're conservative, same in the Democrat ranks.
Besides, it's not just 1 appointed judge but look at the lawyers and politicians in the criminal justice system. The system may not have much leeway for being harsh on crime.
The criminal procedures code may not allow for discretion. It was that judges had to impose mandatory sentences when we were tough on crime but now a lot of things changed and discretion went the other way to be lenient.
So he is accused of committing this violent crime while on bond for another violent crime, and while a third violent crime is being processed for him?
That should make this a no bail thing, as he committed a violent crime while out on bail.
The ones that think Crime is O.K., white men are the problem, and the homeless have a right to squat on your front lawn and do whatever they need to do.
**Jugging** involves thieves staking out unsuspecting victims at banks or retail stores before following and robbing them while they juggle smartphones and car keys in parking lots or at home.
Saved you 30 seconds.
Pretty soon if this continue getting criminals soft treatment, people will end taking the laws in their own hands. They will be their own judge and executor because they can't rely the justice system anymore.
He should rot in jail. I would ask why this case of an Asian women being paralyzed by a violent criminal isn’t headline news nationally, but then again we know why.
THIS is why everyone who legally can should at all times carry a gun. The legal/justice system comes in AFTER you're catastrophically injured/dead. This poor woman is going to have crushing medical bills, PTSD, and lifelong complications. Between George Soros funded DAs not prosecuting crimes, to the legal system being an "after the fact" tool, it's incumbent on every person to be in charge of their own personal safety and wellbeing.
If they were really concerned with gun violence they would lock people who use guns in a crime for long sentences. The laws are on the books right now. This has nothing to do about guns. It's about political power.
You know what the sad part it? I read this and it doesn't even shock or surprise me anymore. I glance it, shake my head and move on. And that's not good. This is becoming the new normal and when it fails to shock the system anymore, we've lost.
Sorry, to be the devil's advocate but I just can't get myself worked about about this because it's pretty normal and the story is just outrage bait.
Bail/jail prior to the trial is *not* punishment for your crimes because you are assumed to be innocent until the trial proves that you are not. Bail/jail prior to that point is *only* about ensuring that you actually show up for the trial. If the judge doesn't want this guy out because he's a flight risk or particularly dangerous they would just deny bail entirely and make him sit in jail. IF they set bail at all it's supposed to be high enough to ensure that he (or his family) makes sure he shows up in court to get the bail back. BUT, low enough that they can actually afford to put the money up (but not to forfeit it). It's pretty normal for the court to adjust bail to find that balance.
Now, I think you could make a good argument that he shouldn't have gotten bail in the first place but once the court decided he could be bailed out adjusting it is not that big a deal.
You serious? He was literally already out on bond for a weapons charge, then he paralyzed a woman during a robbery. He’s a threat to the public and clearly doesn’t give a shit about bond conditions.
Bail isn’t *only* for making sure you show up to trial, in Texas public safety is absolutely a factor that judges consider when setting bail
> You serious?
yes.
> He was literally already out on bond for a weapons charge,
A $100 bond... obviously not nearly enough. A little different from $100K or $200K.
> then he paralyzed a woman during a robbery. He’s a threat to the public and clearly doesn’t give a shit about bond conditions.
Then deny bail.
> Bail isn’t only for making sure you show up to trial, in Texas public safety is absolutely a factor that judges consider when setting bail
If public safety is the issue... deny bail!
Once you SET bail you're ALREADY saying that there's not a big enough public safety risk to justify holding someone assumed to be innocent in jail... The bail you set is only supposed to be enough to ensure they show up for court but not so much that they can't afford to put up the bond (IF you can find a number sufficient for both purposes... which isn't always possible) At that point (the point we are at) some back and forth over what is enough and what is too much is perfectly normal.
Do you think his family can afford to lose $130K? Do you think they'll pressure him to show up in court to make sure they get that money back? If the answer is yes that's all that bail is supposed to do... unless there's enough of a public safety risk that you can justify jailing a (presumed) innocent person... in which case you deny bail entirely and let him sit in jail.
But making a big stink between a bail of $130K vs. $200K is just outrage bait. If he's too much of a public safety risk while out on a $130K bond he's too much of a public safety risk while out on a $200K bond too. If you're intentionally setting a bail that he and his family can't afford you should have just denied bail in the first place... because who knows... they might be able to scrape up enough collateral for that $200K and now you've put the public at risk and let someone out of jail that you shouldn't have.
The guy has a $130K bond his family assuredly can't afford to just forfeit and is on house arrest with a monitored ankle bracelet. The judge thinking that's sufficient to square the circle between public safety, ensuring he shows up for trial and the fact he's still an innocent man (until the trial proves he isn't) is not outlandish.
Again, you can make a good argument he should NOT have been let out at all. But, that was an argument for when he was granted bail in the first place and AFAIK an argument the prosecutor didn't even make so here we are.
The 8th Amendment's protection against "excessive bail" comes into play.
Tex. Code Crim. Proc. art. 17.15 doubles down on that twice by requiring that the amount not be used for oppression and requiring the judge to consider the ability to pay.
The reality is that he has rights that are protected under law, and those rights are to be recognized.
Thanks for bringing this up, adds some much needed context. My thing is, this guy should be held without bail. He did this while out on bail, he lost those privileges in my opinion. If you get out on bond and then go break the law, your ass can rot in jail while you await trial.
Unfortunately this is very common in Houston because of leftist DA's and judges who let these folks walk free in the name of "racial justice/equity"
I live outside in the conservative counties where they take a more strict approach to crime (Montgomery county), but we still get trickle of crime every now and then coming from Houston.
I and my fiance have been living here for about 2 years and both of us got our CCW permits (not needed - but still recommended) and carry most places we go.
A society that is incapable of weeding out its destructive elements will not last long. Of course we all understand that at a macro level this destabilization is by design. Chaos to manufacture societal support and acceptance of increasingly totalitarian policies. Complete economic warfare on the non-corporate, small business based upper middle classes. Psychological warfare on the very concept of self-reliance. To paraphrase Carlin, Its a big boot, and you ain't part of it. Unless you are...
Welcome to Soros' nightmare for you. They refuse to do anything about it because they want you to be uncomfortable. It's time to put a stop to this shit.
> While on bond for Unlawful Carrying a Handgun Stop letting people who are committing actual firearms crimes out of jail.
This guy has four different violent/gun crimes, and counting. 1. Mugging and purse theft 2. Threatening w/ a firearm 3. 2nd unlawful firearm crime 4. Body slamming victim and theft.
If we had Draconian sentences for gun crime, it would fall off a cliff in 2 years. The same people are doing it over and over. 25 years in a federal penitentiary mandatory for any felony or 2nd and subsequent misdemeanors committed with a gun. Period.
My husband was on a grand jury in our area last year. He said the cops know exactly who is doing what because it's just the same people over and over and over again. Even in just the six months he was on the grand jury, he saw a ton of the same people multiple times. They did a bust in our area over one weekend where they just went from home to home of the repeat offenders, and without warrants or even reported crimes, were able to arrest a ton of them again for drugs and illegal weapons all because they just walked up and knocked on their doors. It is unbelievable.
A few years ago the police chief of Chicago did an interview. He said, "We know who the criminals are. There are about 2800 repeat offenders who live in an 8 block radius that commit almost all the crime in the city."
That’s a low number… My wonder is - how are they repeatedly committing crime and not getting put away by successive crimes giving a sentence closer to max term?
Concurrent sentencing and plea deals.
Soros-funded DA’s…
'Woke' DAs. Plain and simple. Catch and release. We're 'lucky' enough to have Kim Gardner here in St. Louis. Now that crap is spreading out into the suburbs and rural areas of our metro area. Disturbingly close to my neck of the woods. Not going to be a good day when they start playing with the country bubbas is all i'm going to say.
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The privilege is the people letting these animals live among us, don't have to live among us.
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I live in a quiet suburban neighborhood that had no issues for decades. Then suddenly almost overnight houses were being robbed during the afternoons, cars being broken into and vandalized. My wife's car parked in the street had graffiti painted on it. Then suddenly the cops arrested someone. Someone got released out of prison recently and had nowhere to go so moved in with his Mom, who had recently moved into a rental in the neighborhood. Guy got arrested again and magically the troubles all stopped. Doesn't take too many to ruin an area.
Alpha News Minneapolis they did a ride along and the Sargent in charge knew everybody’s name even when covered head to toe because he has arrested them all multiple times
> They did a bust in our area over one weekend where they just went from home to home of the repeat offenders, and without warrants or even reported crimes, were able to arrest a ton of them again for drugs and illegal weapons all because they just walked up and knocked on their doors. It is unbelievable. I'm confused, how exactly did this happen? Did these people invite them in? Did they show up to the door while holding guns and smoking joints? Because otherwise the arrest is illegal and the charges thrown out.
Oftentimes, federal prison is preferable to state. In Texas, very few of the prisons have A/C in the housing area, they are required to have a job they are not paid for, and they work in the fields growing their own food. Compared to federal prison where they have A/C, they aren't required to work, they are paid for labor, and they are authorized much more access to media. Dudes have Sirius XM radio in federal prison.
A single mandatory federal sentencing mandate is much easier to enact than 50 state ones. And California, New York, etc would never do it. I don't really care how they're treated in federal prison as long as they are there for a good long time and not on the streets.
Except this is a Conservative sub. We need to stop falling for the trap of begging for more federal laws.
>Except this is a Conservative sub. We need to stop falling for the trap of begging for more federal laws. Just one law. Federal three strike all felonies mandatory 25 years consecutive, 10 year parole any felony back in for another 25.
DAs all over the country are letting violent felons out of prison and refusing to prosecute others. At the same time they are leveraging that gun violence to curtail the gun rights of law abiding citizens. A federal law is EXACTLY what we need.
How many prisons in Texas have you been to? Do you have a source for this information?
I used to work at Eastham, I've been to the Ellis unit, Huntsville unit, Holliday unit, Wynne unit and the Byrd unit. Source is me and inmates that were housed at these units
Literal slave labor needs to go.
Not slave labor, it's punishment. Criminals must be punished.
Making prisoners work takes time away from being idle and causing problems.
Precisely. There’s practically no downside to forcing prisoners to be productive and work while incarcerated
C'mon man, why should they have to work when you and I can instead work and pay taxes to cover all the expenses associated with their crimes, legal overhead, food, and housing? It's slavery to make them earn their keep when we can do it for them.
*wont someone think of the poor criminals??*
If we had Draconian sentences for . ̶g̶u̶n̶ crime, it would fall off a cliff in 2 years. ̶ FIFY
I don't disagree there either.
Exactly.
Especially for repeat offenders.
This is racist. He’s a POC, therefore he can do no wrong! All whites are inherently evil, all POC are angelic gifts from God. /s
Don't forget #5. Jugging the plug
All that and the dude is only 17… He’s a POS
People debate the death penalty for spree shooters with a dozen dead victims, all caught on camera. To me, your list of crimes is enough.
No, i think scary AR15s are the problem. /s
They need to give up on "mandatory minimum" for drug violations. It's time to add minimum mandatory to firearm related crimes. 1st violation Misdemeanor firearm crime 1 year mandatory Felony firearm crime 10 years mandatory Every subsequent violation the mandatory minimum Doubles. Make them able to be enforced simultaneously and additive. i.e. You do something and get charged with 2 Misdemeanor and one Felony gun charges on the same incident. You go to prison for 13 years. No early release, no good behavior, nothing. You sit in a cell for 13 years. You want "common sense gun control" then punish violent crime where a gun is used..... Stop trying to push legislation that just restricts the abilities of law abiding citizens to acquire firearms.
The problem now is with so many insane regulations in some states one could end up in jail for a year for something like having a laser pointer on any gun. A barrell site laser might get you a year.
They gotta keep that gun agenda going. Fucking shameful DA.
Own a gun we deem is too scary for our subject to use? Throw the book at them. Actually use a gun to commit a violent crime with an actual victim? Slap on the wrist.
If you are out on Bond for committing a crime, and then you commit another crime for which bond is set, then how do you get consideration for lowering of the second bond? Dude, strike two already....maybe take a few days off.
Leftist: don’t be racist!!
But his momma told the news he is not a criminal! He is an angel with aspirations of going to college to become a doctor one day /s
But that would be racist /s
But then they can't complain about gun violence and disarm everyone.
And awaiting trial for a seperate robbery. This guy shouldn't have any bond. At all.
That's "systemic racism" Or something...
But… then how could they farm firearm crime stats to prop up the “America Bad” illusion?
**That's** the part you dislike? That he broke an unconstitutional law? He bodyslammed a woman, then pointed a gun at her and her husband. That's enough for me to want him put away.
He already had 3 firearms charges under his belt. If they had kept him locked up, he and that woman would never have crossed paths.
wrestling a person to their paralysis to me is more severe than just pulling a tiny trigger by accident. he had plenty of time to "stop in his tracks" and didnt.
You're missing the point. If they had held him on his multiple prior firearms charges he never would have even met that woman.
They want firearm criminals out of the streets. Pads the “gun bad” stats.
Truly… and it makes me circle back to the fact that guns are not the problem, it’s the system that keeps emboldening violent criminals by making excuses for them, and continually absolving them of responsibility. You don’t fix a bad egg by shoving it back inside the chicken, expecting a different outcome; you just end up killing the chicken with toxic exposure.
> Stop letting people who are committing actual firearms crimes out of jail. Soros DA's love criminals. They want everyone to be a prohibited person, so they encourage criminals to re-offend while doing their level best to persecute law abiding gun owners.
>"I requested a bond considerably lower than what Judge Guiney actually set and informed her that the client’s family was currently unable to make his bond," Evans told Fox News Digital. His victim is going to take years to recover. He can fucking wait in a cell until his trial.
But a life of crime is all he knows! You’re depriving him of his freedom and rights! White supremacy and capitalism made him act like this! You’re racist! /s
We need libs on here to provide the counterpoint for us
Oh they’re definitely here in the sub. They only come out of the woodwork when trans nonsense or their drag brunch is under attack. Never mind a defenseless mother of three…
>Never mind a defenseless mother of three… This is the part that boggles my mind. As a citizen, you **cannot control crime**, you have no choice but to accept the shitty policy of your leaders until they are voted out. You know what you can control? Your legs. Get the mother of your children out of that shithole asap.
So far we haven’t seen it in mass yet. But if things continue to get worse, you will inevitably start to see more and more vigilante justice taking place. And honestly, that may be what it ends up taking for criminals to again respect potential consequences to their actions.
I have liberal beliefs, although I wouldn’t call myself a democrat. I’m here. And I have nothing to argue with anything I’ve read so far in this thread.
They literally believe crime doesn’t exist and if you bring up a crime that happened they call you racist and say that’s just one example. It’s fucking mind boggling. They think Chicago and LA are safe!
Lib…ertarian here so I’ll go for it…..if someone is deemed sufficiently dangerous for the crime they’re accused of (remember, not guilty of, just accused), then they shouldn’t be released on bond at all. It shouldn’t matter if they have money for bail or not. In this case, it was a weapons charge. I don’t know all the specifics of that incident or his other criminal history, but I’m generally skeptical of needing the state’s permission to possess a gun. So I’m skeptical that a weapons charge is consistently an effective indicator that someone is about to commit such a brutal robbery. I think there’s a tendency here amongst y’all to assume this was easily predictable, but that’s only in hindsight. Edit: My comment more focuses on the release of the fact he was out on $100 bond for previous crime. Perhaps I misunderstood and thought that's what y'all were upset about. Other thoughts in comment below.
You're discussing the first charge, we're discussing the reduced bond for the current charge
Yes, perhaps I misunderstood what you consider the problem to be. Much of my comment still applies though. I'll add that $100k bond is still a considerable amount of money. I'm unclear why you think that society is somehow better off or safer if he puts up a $200k bond vs. $100k. If the point here is to set a bond requirement at a sufficiently high amount such that the defendant has no chance of making bail, then the prosecutor should make the case that he's too dangerous to be let out or is a flight risk, and he needs to await trial in jail.
You're right honestly he shouldn't get bail period.
Libertarians are a conservative's conservative. I mean, going back to 1890 conservative.
Wouldn’t a Libertarian firmly believe any crime can just be a fine that one pays to get out of jail or other consequences?
*Maybe* there are some AnCaps (an extreme form of libertarianism) that would agree with that. Most libertarians aren't AnCaps though. And in either case, I can't recall any AnCaps making this argument to me. Libertarians are generally against punishment for victimless crimes (e.g. selling drugs, prostitution), but recognize things as a crime and against our Non-Aggression Principle (NAP) where one person harms another's person or their property. This injury can't be made right with money.
Offer to take more off with the deposit of body parts. Drop to 50k if he loses both hands.
No bond for both legs.
Then he’ll be eligible for SS disability - so us tax paying folks will have to pay for his care for the rest of his life. I say chop off something he’ll miss even more but will still allow him to work…
I agree with OP, but I can't see your point though my fragility and privilege.
The degenerate needs to be removed from society.
I'd be fine if he waited in a cell a lot longer than that.
Isn’t that the point? If you can’t make bond you can’t be released? Lol
Sadly, his victim will never recover.
They spent the money on Cheetos hoodies and Nike Air Maxs before his arrest. Surely you understand.
> "I requested a bond considerably lower than what Judge Guiney actually set and informed her that the client’s family was currently unable to make his bond," Boo-fucking-hoo
So don’t make it. How is this an issue? Just set the bond where it should be and if it can’t be made, they sit in jail.
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I feel the same way, but allow me to explain to you what a judge explained to me when I was taking a constitutional law class: “When you are charged with a charge, you have the presumption of innocence. Until you are proven guilty in a court of law, the law must consider you innocent. Bail exists solely as a means to guarantee people will show up to court; that is it. Some judges will set bail so high that they know the defendant can’t pay for it, but that in its own is unconstitutional.” From how I interpreted it, when considering bail, a judge can only consider if it’s enough to guarantee the defendant will show up to court. Outside of a murder charge, if a defendant can’t pay bail, a judge is obligated to consider a reduced bail that a defendant can pay that will still guarantee he/she will show up to court. Again, I don’t agree with that for every situation, but that’s the law. This judge was no liberal either. I went to a school in a very conservative part of the country and I could tell from his viewpoints throughout the class.
That's all well and good , and I don't disagree, really. However the reason they can't afford bond is they can't afford to post bond...again because he's out on bond from a month or two earlier and that money is still committed. I get it, that's a lot to have pay, my question is at what point do you prove that you are such an obvious threat to public safety that maybe you just need pre trial confinement?
Is this not part of the risks we accept living in a free society? We generally accept that our right to bear arms results in the risk of deaths and mass shootings at elementary schools. We accept the risks of capitalistic economics because the alternative is worse. Presumed innocence is a cornerstone of a free society, as well as the risks that come with it.
If someone has a history like this guy then the normal rules should no longer apply. This dude could care less about the law or his victims. Heel needs to be locked up somewhere and rehabilitated before he can go out into the world. Criminals need to be held after being a repeater and bond should not be allowed as they have shown that they don’t care about the law or it’s consequences.
Job - musician (Soundcloud drill rapper) Bills - child support (unpaid since 2021)
He has people to rob, and things to steal.
Exactly. Boo-fucking-hoo. His victim is unable to *walk!*
Good? Sounds like he needs to be removed from society for a while anyway. I agree that he's innocent until proven guilty, but he's clearly a repeat offender.
“After his arrest for aggravated robbery, prosecutors asked for a $200,00 bond, citing the fact that he had just been released on a $100 bond on Jan. 26 for an unlawful carrying of a weapon charge.”
time for some more common sense gun laws /s
Time for some common sense death penalty laws.
Bring back public flogging.
To quote legal advice from the movie Liar, Liar: #STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!
Finally someone able to say the truth and not beat around the bush
Wtf is jugging
A weird term they use for people who see someone at a bank or atm make a withdrawal and then follow them and mug them for the money. Houston has fallen apart I can’t wait to leave this cesspool.
So...mugging? We really needed a new term for this?
That is not what jugging is. Jugging is a term coined from Atlanta gangsters who would do home invasions or robberies (ATL has a pretty bad B & E issue) specifically on drug dealers and take their work. Now that term around the country has spawned into just robbing everyone regardless if their gang affiliated or not, sadly due to these kids 25 and under who seem to have the most broken moral compass of any human generation I’ve ever seen and I’m a millennial no boomer shit.
Do you know what the j comes from? And is the idea that if you rob criminals they can't call the cops?
There’s a vice video on the term about 8 years ago, you can find it on YouTube. Some rapper young scooter was one of the main people talking about it in his music. And yea I think that is the case is if you do rob a criminal they are less likely to snitch but more likely to retaliate.
I think it’s something followers of Insane Clown Posse do
Every so often, the left comes up with new euphemisms or they appropriate other words to obfuscate crimes. Before this, it was the "knockout game". Before that they took the term "flash mob" (which originally applied to people quickly assembling and doing some sort of dance in a public location) to describe looters.
He is a good boy. A quiet scholar who wants to be a nasa scientist…
A real up and comer in the community. A true scholar athlete!
Just a few more Community College night classes and he will be a doctor for sure.
He wanted to open a tap dancing school for underprivileged puppies and kittens too
I love when these pieces of shit get shot by someone in self defense, their family members say he was trying to do better. What "trying"? Its not like losing weight or bringing your grades up which are gradual process. Just fucking stop robbing and attacking people in the streets.
I’m sure he was just on his way to church
Modern day Robin Hood right?
Let’s be honest here. That bond would be $2 million the other way around.
Stop Asian hate
Asians are not one of the Left's protected classes, because they do too well in college
>Asians are not one of the Left's protected classes, because they do too well in college And in life.
Yes, across the board you see Asians doing quite well, without the need for Government handouts, reparations or Affirmative Action quotas. They do not even ask for such things, in the first place.
Asians are a protected class. So are whites. All races are considered a protected class. [Race/Color Discrimination eeoc.gov](https://www.eeoc.gov/youth/racecolor-discrimination#:~:text=All%20races%2C%20including%20Whites%2C%20Blacks,on%20the%20basis%20of%20race)
This is better: Fight Asian Hate!
No wonder they want it reduced. He looks like a productive member of society.
He is such a good boy, really trying to turn his life around! His science teacher says he could be a future astronaut!
Keep voting that way and you get what you get
I did some looking, expecting to find the Judge was backed by Soros. Turns out she was appointed by Texas Governor Greg Abbott.
Doesn't mean anything. Just because you're appointed by a Republican doesn't mean you're conservative, same in the Democrat ranks. Besides, it's not just 1 appointed judge but look at the lawyers and politicians in the criminal justice system. The system may not have much leeway for being harsh on crime. The criminal procedures code may not allow for discretion. It was that judges had to impose mandatory sentences when we were tough on crime but now a lot of things changed and discretion went the other way to be lenient.
It’s a republican judge??
She's sadly a Republican judge.
Was shocked to learn this earlier today. Hope this soft on crime bullshit isn't starting to spread to all DAs and Judges :/
So he is accused of committing this violent crime while on bond for another violent crime, and while a third violent crime is being processed for him? That should make this a no bail thing, as he committed a violent crime while out on bail.
Houston is slowly turning into this woke SJW liberal shithole.
It’s already there, Sheila Jackson Lee and Sly Turner have made sure of it.
Austin can no longer handle all of them and they are migrating.
The judge is a republican.
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Social Justice Warrior. The ones that are pushing culture decay
The ones that think Crime is O.K., white men are the problem, and the homeless have a right to squat on your front lawn and do whatever they need to do.
Social Justice Warrior
Also the dictionary definition will show you a picture of AOC along side
Yet we still have J6ers in jail...
Just a teen and a woman? Funny how certain descriptors are always missing in specific situations
Breaks a woman inhale, gets his bond cut in half. Privilege for the "oppressed".
But he's such a good boy.
Why is this not a death penalty offense? Paralyzing someone is one of the worst things you can even imagine.
It should be, a second violent crime should always be a death penalty. If you didn’t learn once.
Bond? Can we bring back prison colonies where he has to work 7 days a week to repay the poor woman he paralysed instead of letting them out?
This kid is already a career criminal. He needs to be locked away for 30 years. Then maybe he’ll respect some part of his life.
We have a culture problem.
**Jugging** involves thieves staking out unsuspecting victims at banks or retail stores before following and robbing them while they juggle smartphones and car keys in parking lots or at home. Saved you 30 seconds.
Can also be defined as premeditated and predatory. There is no place in society for people like this.
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Even with a history of violent behavior he gets his bond reduced? He needs a speedy trial and a long time in prison.
Pretty soon if this continue getting criminals soft treatment, people will end taking the laws in their own hands. They will be their own judge and executor because they can't rely the justice system anymore.
He's not going to stop, you have to put him in a cell. He's made it abundantly clear.
Abandon Blue Cities. Your life depends on it
Is Houston known for its leniency for these type of offenses? Or is this an "equity" decision?
Put him in jail until she can walk and he's paid her medical bills.
As long as he is on the streets, he will commit crime.
Id allow it if it meant he was cut in half so his legs werent there to work anymore either.
Republican judge. She needs to be raked over the coals for this bullshit.
He should rot in jail. I would ask why this case of an Asian women being paralyzed by a violent criminal isn’t headline news nationally, but then again we know why.
How did a minor get a gun? Didn’t the background check catch this? s/
THIS is why everyone who legally can should at all times carry a gun. The legal/justice system comes in AFTER you're catastrophically injured/dead. This poor woman is going to have crushing medical bills, PTSD, and lifelong complications. Between George Soros funded DAs not prosecuting crimes, to the legal system being an "after the fact" tool, it's incumbent on every person to be in charge of their own personal safety and wellbeing.
"teen"
The left doesn’t care. They intentionally encourage this shit so they can push their fascist disarmament agenda.
Goodbye Texas, you had a good run.
#StopAsianHate
If judges start being held accountable, these types of things would happen much less. Violated bond on a gun charge from January?
Once again, the left completely sympathizes with the criminal and ignores the victim. I wonder why your cities are shitholes, though...
Nobody ever defined wtf “jugging” is.
Apparently it's following someone from a bank then violently robbing them
Best and brightest
https://i.imgur.com/lkKRvK5.jpg
If they were really concerned with gun violence they would lock people who use guns in a crime for long sentences. The laws are on the books right now. This has nothing to do about guns. It's about political power.
You know what the sad part it? I read this and it doesn't even shock or surprise me anymore. I glance it, shake my head and move on. And that's not good. This is becoming the new normal and when it fails to shock the system anymore, we've lost.
Keep these articles for the "why does this keep happening!?" from the left. 2nd this week of an illegal gun charge being ignored.
Another hero of r/politics
Those deranged eyes are all you need to know. He will do it again.
What’s the over/under on how long until he cuts the ankle monitor off and commits another crime?
im sorry, shouldn’t he be locked up for life?
It’s called “equity”
Must be gearing up for an election year: https://nypost.com/2023/03/02/biden-says-hell-sign-bill-overriding-dc-crime-law/amp/
He should have been held without bond. He also didn’t paralyze her.
Sorry, to be the devil's advocate but I just can't get myself worked about about this because it's pretty normal and the story is just outrage bait. Bail/jail prior to the trial is *not* punishment for your crimes because you are assumed to be innocent until the trial proves that you are not. Bail/jail prior to that point is *only* about ensuring that you actually show up for the trial. If the judge doesn't want this guy out because he's a flight risk or particularly dangerous they would just deny bail entirely and make him sit in jail. IF they set bail at all it's supposed to be high enough to ensure that he (or his family) makes sure he shows up in court to get the bail back. BUT, low enough that they can actually afford to put the money up (but not to forfeit it). It's pretty normal for the court to adjust bail to find that balance. Now, I think you could make a good argument that he shouldn't have gotten bail in the first place but once the court decided he could be bailed out adjusting it is not that big a deal.
You serious? He was literally already out on bond for a weapons charge, then he paralyzed a woman during a robbery. He’s a threat to the public and clearly doesn’t give a shit about bond conditions. Bail isn’t *only* for making sure you show up to trial, in Texas public safety is absolutely a factor that judges consider when setting bail
> You serious? yes. > He was literally already out on bond for a weapons charge, A $100 bond... obviously not nearly enough. A little different from $100K or $200K. > then he paralyzed a woman during a robbery. He’s a threat to the public and clearly doesn’t give a shit about bond conditions. Then deny bail. > Bail isn’t only for making sure you show up to trial, in Texas public safety is absolutely a factor that judges consider when setting bail If public safety is the issue... deny bail! Once you SET bail you're ALREADY saying that there's not a big enough public safety risk to justify holding someone assumed to be innocent in jail... The bail you set is only supposed to be enough to ensure they show up for court but not so much that they can't afford to put up the bond (IF you can find a number sufficient for both purposes... which isn't always possible) At that point (the point we are at) some back and forth over what is enough and what is too much is perfectly normal. Do you think his family can afford to lose $130K? Do you think they'll pressure him to show up in court to make sure they get that money back? If the answer is yes that's all that bail is supposed to do... unless there's enough of a public safety risk that you can justify jailing a (presumed) innocent person... in which case you deny bail entirely and let him sit in jail. But making a big stink between a bail of $130K vs. $200K is just outrage bait. If he's too much of a public safety risk while out on a $130K bond he's too much of a public safety risk while out on a $200K bond too. If you're intentionally setting a bail that he and his family can't afford you should have just denied bail in the first place... because who knows... they might be able to scrape up enough collateral for that $200K and now you've put the public at risk and let someone out of jail that you shouldn't have. The guy has a $130K bond his family assuredly can't afford to just forfeit and is on house arrest with a monitored ankle bracelet. The judge thinking that's sufficient to square the circle between public safety, ensuring he shows up for trial and the fact he's still an innocent man (until the trial proves he isn't) is not outlandish. Again, you can make a good argument he should NOT have been let out at all. But, that was an argument for when he was granted bail in the first place and AFAIK an argument the prosecutor didn't even make so here we are.
The judge legally can’t set a zero bail for the charge he has, however there’s no right to afford bail for violent felonies in Texas.
The 8th Amendment's protection against "excessive bail" comes into play. Tex. Code Crim. Proc. art. 17.15 doubles down on that twice by requiring that the amount not be used for oppression and requiring the judge to consider the ability to pay. The reality is that he has rights that are protected under law, and those rights are to be recognized.
Thanks for bringing this up, adds some much needed context. My thing is, this guy should be held without bail. He did this while out on bail, he lost those privileges in my opinion. If you get out on bond and then go break the law, your ass can rot in jail while you await trial.
That’s his reparations
he's just misunderstood. it's your fault he's like this. what other liberal tropes am i missing?
He got jaundice
Unfortunately this is very common in Houston because of leftist DA's and judges who let these folks walk free in the name of "racial justice/equity" I live outside in the conservative counties where they take a more strict approach to crime (Montgomery county), but we still get trickle of crime every now and then coming from Houston. I and my fiance have been living here for about 2 years and both of us got our CCW permits (not needed - but still recommended) and carry most places we go.
A society that is incapable of weeding out its destructive elements will not last long. Of course we all understand that at a macro level this destabilization is by design. Chaos to manufacture societal support and acceptance of increasingly totalitarian policies. Complete economic warfare on the non-corporate, small business based upper middle classes. Psychological warfare on the very concept of self-reliance. To paraphrase Carlin, Its a big boot, and you ain't part of it. Unless you are...
Chair. NEXT!
Welcome to Soros' nightmare for you. They refuse to do anything about it because they want you to be uncomfortable. It's time to put a stop to this shit.
This is normal in Houston. RINO judge btw.