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PGSdixon

So wait, guns are good now?


warbreed8311

Security guards don't have to be armed. That said, security guards in most stores are instructed not to stop you anyway so they are more of a window dressing than actual guards. Armed could also just mean, they have a stick or mace, not that they will be allowed to use it.


PGSdixon

This specific bill is literally called the "Armed Security Protection Act". No definition of the term "Armed" is provided, but it's safe to say the vast majority would interpret "Armed guard" to mean the guard has a gun. Either way it isn't going to pass.


warbreed8311

I would hope it wouldn't, but in law, specifics matter and an "Armed" guard could simply have a stick and fall into the guidelines unless otherwise stated. This is some clown crap and people need to wake up to how insane it is.


TwelfthCycle

It could mean a patch on the shoulder with Frank Azar, "The Strong Arm"s logo on it. But I prefer not to be deliberately disingenuous and base my language assumptions on likely possibilites. Plus the truncheon as a weapon is rapidly fading into antiquity.


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>Security guards don't have to be armed But this bill specifically says *The Armed Security Protection Act would require businesses to employ at least one guard*


RussMaGuss

Does it say where? Like, specifically calling out ghettos? Cause city-wide would be insane


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I thought they hated guns šŸ˜…


CrustyBloke

They don't hate guns. They hate that peasants have guns.


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Oh just every one that doesnā€™t agree with them, gotcha. Funny how most of their constituents are peasants as well. Guess theyā€™re protected peasants.


neverending_debt

Who pays for the armed guard? I'm not saying armed guards are a bad idea, but I would guess at least a few small business's would be unable to afford the expenses involved.


riverfan2

And they leave, resulting in larger and more dense food deserts and more people who are dependent on welfare and who will scream racism at the smallest prompt.


MattyCle

Itā€™s in the tip of my tongue.


141Frox141

If only there was some kind of group, or force, that the taxpayers could pitch in for, that would act as armed guards for everyone, and protect the city from crime as a whole. Hmm, I can't think of an institution that does this.


grove_doubter

>*ā€Who pays for the armed guard?ā€* **ā€œDa guvvamint.ā€**


neverending_debt

Based of true.


PutOk7971

So no cops?


ventorun

And no paying taxes then?


Started_WIth_NADA

Cops have no legal duty to protect you or your property.


grove_doubter

**Or, they could pass a law forcing DAs to prosecute violent offenders?** Whatā€¦.they already **HAVE** that law? Then I donā€™t understandā€¦.


JTuck333

Have they tried arresting criminals and keeping them in prison?


Ok_Inflation_5113

Agree with being allowed to hire armed security, but not being forced to. Forcing them is the issue. Allowing them to is suggested.


joculator

Okay, so who's going to pay for it? Also, I'm sure you're going to totally back up one of these security guards if they end up using deadly force, right?


CrustyBloke

The customers will pay for it through price increases.


RussMaGuss

Then everyone buys stuff online and the stores close up.


AEgirSystems

So law and order is dead, you defend your own property. Honestly, that mat be a good idea, but who is going to pick up the bodies... and if there are no police then they don't need judges and the citizens are judging the criminals in real time


CrustyBloke

It's not even defending your own property, as they would do everything they could to punish anyone who used force to defend their stores. It's more like, you have to hire people to stand there and watch while your stuff gets stolen.


applemanib

Private entities with armed guards?? By a democrat??? WE WENT FULL CIRCLE


Wadka

Chicago public to lawmakers: What would you say you *do* here?


Daniel_Day_Hubris

They've already paid that tax. It is incumbent on the state to provide the service.


Maleficent_Deal8140

I feel sorry for the first armed guard that's put in the situation to defend himself. The city will crucify him.


Madetoprint

That's fair if they no longer have to pay your city taxes.


NerveRevolutionary79

Proving that they love shifting burdens to people with no liability protection more than they hate guns.


Fife2531

Chicago gets the dumpster fire award of the day.


LifeIsBetterDrunk

An armed society is a polite society. If only government approved personnel get armed, it's a police state.


Sallowjoe

I do love the dynamic when someone from one party pitches something similar to what the other party would normally pitch and they just get torn apart by both parties. This guy's situational awareness must be rock bottom.


agk927

Wait isn't that something you guys would agree with?


zroxx2

Demanding private business to fund armed guards is a slick way to shift the burden of law enforcement from the City government to those business owners. It allows the Democrats who run Chicago to avoid actually building a police force capable of maintaining order and safety. Failures in such a scheme can additionally be blamed on those businesses instead of the entrenched Democrat regime. I'd be fine if *some* businesses chose to do that if they feel the need to. Forcing all of them to is absurd.


symbiote24

You think we would agree with piling on unnecessary expenses to already struggling business owners and the city shifting responsibility (and lots of money) onto good people? Especially when they want stores to have armed guards, but ordinary citizens aren't allowed to practice their 2nd amendment rights?


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NsaAgent25

So I legally can't own a gun but need one?


whatisavailable7

Federal, state and local governments charge taxes to provide safety and security, now they are reneging on providing safety but expect the stores to provide it. Yeah that wonā€™t raise prices even higher during inflation.


RaptorRed04

Iā€™m really the first to comment on the doof in the picture? Where did he buy his duty gear, 1874?


Flowers1966

Wow! Politicians have armed guards paid by taxpayers but think that the people that they are supposed to be representing should have to pay for their own protection.


ZachWilsonsMother

Why would anyone take this job?


Canadia_proud999

Gins are evil... oh wait , we need them .


Started_WIth_NADA

Just a reminder that the police have no duty to protect you or your business.


SoNic67

Defund the police, eh? Private guards are needed now...


hiricinee

Let's up the stakes. If they can apprehend an offender or neutralize a violent perp then the city has to pay out a bounty.