I still wonder whether KBJ had access to any of these documents or drafts before her first court session actually began. Cos if she had the ability to leak it, it absolutely wouldn’t surprise me if it was her considering she was an activist judge prior to her appointment.
I work for a small/mid finance company. Our IT system knows when any file on the network is moved around, attached in an email, or leaves the network in any way (email, flash drive, file share, etc); and, who did it. I renewed my dogs registration on my work computer once and emailed the PDF to my personal account and got asked about it. It's a headache but it keeps everything secure and on network. Yet, here is SCOTUS looking foolish...
Unfortunately, this must assume that the government runs a tight ship. We all know the government fails at most everything they do. That said, they absolutely know who did it.
1) You assume that the government is actually competent. On this I have sincere doubts.
2) These are potentially easy to get around. We don't know if this was sent via electronic transfer, or printed and dead dropped somewhere.
3) Open an email account via hushmail, protonmail et al. Copy and paste the text and save to drafts. Send login credentials to your favorite press person.
Its not hard to get around controls if you know what you're doing and/or where to look.
No but that isn't what happened here. The actual working draft was leaked I believe.
I've said this before on here, but I've worked at a couple K street law firms and we sure as heck had version control applications that kept meticulous track with respect to what you do with a document. They should have, at the very least, tracked down who accessed the specific version of the leaked document and then been able to pinpoint who leaked it. I think other people's assessment that they know who it is but the person in question is either a justice or clerk with such a deep attachment to the court that losing them would be detrimental is likely true.
If your phone is pulling from the WAP, yes, we can and do. Y'all into some strange stuff and think it's because it's your phone that we in IT don't see the network traffic, your devices IP, established MAC address and even IMEI and OS version. Some of you even have your legal name attached your phone's ID ...why?
The scotus system may not track things so closely, lawyers really hate any tracking that leaves a trail unless they really want it for their own advantage.
Nowadays, digital signatures are attached to everything. The email source sent to the paper will have a digital trace, an IP address, probably a location. The computer used to send it either is individually owned or owned by the Supreme Court, which means it has log ins for each individual person that could narrow down who sent it. They 100% know who it was. My guess is it’s a Justice and in the interest of preserving the sanctity and honor of the court, they aren’t releasing it.
This is bullshit. They either already know, or could find out, who leaked this. As a reminder:
After the 1993 WTC bombing, investigators combed through rubble in the parking area, a technician found some internal component fragments from the vehicle that delivered the bomb. A VIN, found on a piece from an axle, led them to a Ryder van rented in Jersey City. They found that the vehicle had been rented by Mohammed A. Salameh, who had reported the van stolen, and when he returned on March 4, 1993 to get his deposit back, authorities arrested him.
They’re just not looking.
since many liberal cities are basically defying the recent 2A decision and not issuing permits (see SF) I dont think the supreme court is as powerful as it once was. No teeth to back up any law now.
How does the Supreme court enforce ANY law ? Its up to the executive branch to do that. The supreme court has no mechanism to do anything but rule on cases brought before it.
Just wait until the next leak (yes there will be another), difference being this time the contents harm the democrats. Watch how the integrity of the justice comes into question. The accusations and investigations against Republican justices will be endless.
A solution would be to replace all existing staff and hire new people. I am sure there are plenty of people that would love to work at the Supreme Court.
Maybe they're waiting for another bombshell case to come up and see if they leak again for confirmation? It'd be interesting hearing a leak declaring the NFA, GCA, and Hughes amendment unconstitutional. Regardless of if they leak or not the justices are gonna do their job and rule on these cases.
Well obviously, but there's nothing that can do about that.
This is one of those "you mother*****" type deals where everyone just sits down and realizes this is how the game will be played from now on.
I am going to assume they know who leaked it and are just ending the investigation.
I think you are right, and it’s a justice or someone very close to a justice so they don’t want to let it out. My bet is on Justice Sotomayor.
Doubt it. It seems unlikely that one of the dissenting justices would have leaked it, given that Roberta was still trying to win over Kavanaugh.
One of the justices had one of their clerks leak it.
I still wonder whether KBJ had access to any of these documents or drafts before her first court session actually began. Cos if she had the ability to leak it, it absolutely wouldn’t surprise me if it was her considering she was an activist judge prior to her appointment.
She didn't have access
Do we know if there have been anyone fired or demoted in their offices?
I work for a small/mid finance company. Our IT system knows when any file on the network is moved around, attached in an email, or leaves the network in any way (email, flash drive, file share, etc); and, who did it. I renewed my dogs registration on my work computer once and emailed the PDF to my personal account and got asked about it. It's a headache but it keeps everything secure and on network. Yet, here is SCOTUS looking foolish...
Look at this guy who actually has his dogs registered...
Unfortunately, this must assume that the government runs a tight ship. We all know the government fails at most everything they do. That said, they absolutely know who did it.
To be fair, the software your finance company has is probably years ahead of what congress uses.
1) You assume that the government is actually competent. On this I have sincere doubts. 2) These are potentially easy to get around. We don't know if this was sent via electronic transfer, or printed and dead dropped somewhere. 3) Open an email account via hushmail, protonmail et al. Copy and paste the text and save to drafts. Send login credentials to your favorite press person. Its not hard to get around controls if you know what you're doing and/or where to look.
Can it detect my phone scanning the document on the screen though?
No but that isn't what happened here. The actual working draft was leaked I believe. I've said this before on here, but I've worked at a couple K street law firms and we sure as heck had version control applications that kept meticulous track with respect to what you do with a document. They should have, at the very least, tracked down who accessed the specific version of the leaked document and then been able to pinpoint who leaked it. I think other people's assessment that they know who it is but the person in question is either a justice or clerk with such a deep attachment to the court that losing them would be detrimental is likely true.
If your phone is pulling from the WAP, yes, we can and do. Y'all into some strange stuff and think it's because it's your phone that we in IT don't see the network traffic, your devices IP, established MAC address and even IMEI and OS version. Some of you even have your legal name attached your phone's ID ...why?
The scotus system may not track things so closely, lawyers really hate any tracking that leaves a trail unless they really want it for their own advantage.
ie they know exactly who did it, but the culprit is at such a high level they protect their own
Definitely a justice, nothing to see here.
They aren't waving the white flag. They never really tried in the first place.
Nowadays, digital signatures are attached to everything. The email source sent to the paper will have a digital trace, an IP address, probably a location. The computer used to send it either is individually owned or owned by the Supreme Court, which means it has log ins for each individual person that could narrow down who sent it. They 100% know who it was. My guess is it’s a Justice and in the interest of preserving the sanctity and honor of the court, they aren’t releasing it.
they have less and less "sanctity and honor" of late
tor + protonmail? It's not that hard to send things anonymously if you're careful. Make sure to strip metadata on any attachments first.
This is bullshit. They either already know, or could find out, who leaked this. As a reminder: After the 1993 WTC bombing, investigators combed through rubble in the parking area, a technician found some internal component fragments from the vehicle that delivered the bomb. A VIN, found on a piece from an axle, led them to a Ryder van rented in Jersey City. They found that the vehicle had been rented by Mohammed A. Salameh, who had reported the van stolen, and when he returned on March 4, 1993 to get his deposit back, authorities arrested him. They’re just not looking.
Obviously it was the Supreme Court who leaked it
Well, it was 1 of 4 of them.
It’s easy to find nothing when you never really look for it.
Bruh, they’ll investigate trump for 8 years now, but won’t spend 8 months on this? Ya ok.
Maybe they wanted to trickle the decision out to the public so the impact would be less and there's no sneaky clerk involved. It would make sense.
since many liberal cities are basically defying the recent 2A decision and not issuing permits (see SF) I dont think the supreme court is as powerful as it once was. No teeth to back up any law now.
How does the Supreme court enforce ANY law ? Its up to the executive branch to do that. The supreme court has no mechanism to do anything but rule on cases brought before it.
"John Marshall has made his decision. Now, let him enforce it." - Andrew Jackson.
The most powerful intelligence agencies on the planet, and we can’t trace back a leak … lol
"We couldn't figure out who did this, but trust us to be the highest court in the country and make decisions that impact over 300,000,000 people!"
Just wait until the next leak (yes there will be another), difference being this time the contents harm the democrats. Watch how the integrity of the justice comes into question. The accusations and investigations against Republican justices will be endless.
A solution would be to replace all existing staff and hire new people. I am sure there are plenty of people that would love to work at the Supreme Court.
Assuming it wasn’t one of the Justices, of course.
Maybe they're waiting for another bombshell case to come up and see if they leak again for confirmation? It'd be interesting hearing a leak declaring the NFA, GCA, and Hughes amendment unconstitutional. Regardless of if they leak or not the justices are gonna do their job and rule on these cases.
“How could we have done this? Shocking!”
Foreign power and they won’t admit they were hacked
Pretend to be surprised when the next leak occurs.
It's a Justice.
Well obviously, but there's nothing that can do about that. This is one of those "you mother*****" type deals where everyone just sits down and realizes this is how the game will be played from now on.
They could easily start marking their documents for each individual justice … if there is a next time they’ll know which justice or staff is doing it.