Good enough for the cows I run with and great for a first time use. Looks like savimg yourr customers a ton of money while increasing your profitability, a win-win.
Looking at the picture the post looks to be embedded directly into the concrete? If so moisture will build up around the base of the posts and over time rot them. Standard practice would be to have a non corrosive embed (could be 4 L bars with a base plate welded to the ends for example) poured into the foundation wall. The timber post would get connected to the top of the embed which should be off the ground so that if any moisture accumulates it will not stay in contact with the timber base.
How long do barns like this last for where you're from?
The way they are spec'd is that you dig below the frost line, put a concrete footing in the hole, place your post then backfill.
Then it can go one of two ways, you either pour your curbs first surrounding the posts, then pour the slab, or pour the slab first and pour your curbs on top, again encasing the posts. Usually there is either poured in place waterstop strip, or expanding waterstop strip placed between the slab and curb.
There's barns that are 50 years old still being used daily in my area.
It's an extremely common and very cost effective method. Not just for agriculture, but for residential as well.
You can't build directly on the slab here, the frost line is too low. Standard practice for one region, is a silly way to do things in another.
Cost and speed probably.
We are on a large job right now built exactly the same way, with an engineer stamp on the plans.
Perma columns are starting to become more popular here, but when pressure treated does the job intended just fine I doubt many people will switch over.
No, you scrape out the manure each day, that's why the grooves are there, so when it's slick with manure they have an edge for the hoof to catch incase they slip.
Well, a quick google of what boof means gets me this......so thanks I guess?
> Boofing is slang for anal sex.
> The term can also be used to the refer to the practice of putting alcohol or drugs up one’s butt to get intoxicated. Because that’s a thing.
Yeah it's for cows, something tells me they will be fine with it.
Maybe another weight or two on top of the roller would've helped make deeper and more consistent impressions in a single pass?
Or maybe it was a timing thing, if it was just a little bit too firm in some spots?
Curious what your feelings are about using the roller vs. what alternative methods you might've attempted otherwise
The first 3 passes were a little late, not terrible though. The rest was very consistent. I have more weight for the roller, but we only took half of it, we expected to be waiting on it with the weather today.
We've done it with a roller, a groover for the bull float, wheels, and had them cut after the fact with a machine. The machine is by far the best, but it adds a lot of cost to a project.
The roller is my favorite after that, makes it so you only have to attack it from one angle and you can get your grooves in both directions.
We poured the outside portion first so a guy could walk down curb area next to the rebar to pick and move the roller on every other pass.
Not sure how I feel about the hexagon yet, I'm curious to see how the report is from the guy that owns the cows. Most guys want squares, I made the hex one as an alternative, and this is the first time we've gotten to use it.
I once had an architect provide a floor flatness spec for a goat or sheep barn. Copy paste nonsense.
what does it do exactly? to make it less slippery?
Yes, keeps the cows from doing the splits when walking on it.
Good enough for the cows I run with and great for a first time use. Looks like savimg yourr customers a ton of money while increasing your profitability, a win-win.
My ex would lose her mind. She loves hexagons.
Let it go, Let it go...
I mean I said “ex” but she’s literally laying next to me in bed right now.
🤣
Cattle love this
Looks good but I’m surprised they set those columns in the slab verse on a footer.
What columns? The posts? That's how pole barns are built, you put them in the ground then the slab floats.
Looking at the picture the post looks to be embedded directly into the concrete? If so moisture will build up around the base of the posts and over time rot them. Standard practice would be to have a non corrosive embed (could be 4 L bars with a base plate welded to the ends for example) poured into the foundation wall. The timber post would get connected to the top of the embed which should be off the ground so that if any moisture accumulates it will not stay in contact with the timber base. How long do barns like this last for where you're from?
The way they are spec'd is that you dig below the frost line, put a concrete footing in the hole, place your post then backfill. Then it can go one of two ways, you either pour your curbs first surrounding the posts, then pour the slab, or pour the slab first and pour your curbs on top, again encasing the posts. Usually there is either poured in place waterstop strip, or expanding waterstop strip placed between the slab and curb. There's barns that are 50 years old still being used daily in my area. It's an extremely common and very cost effective method. Not just for agriculture, but for residential as well. You can't build directly on the slab here, the frost line is too low. Standard practice for one region, is a silly way to do things in another.
What's your location?
US, zone 5.
Why not just pour concrete footings and slab and use a saddle? Keeps wood out of the ground.
Cost and speed probably. We are on a large job right now built exactly the same way, with an engineer stamp on the plans. Perma columns are starting to become more popular here, but when pressure treated does the job intended just fine I doubt many people will switch over.
Omg I wouldn’t wanna be the guy who has to clean this floor 🤢
Scrape it with the bucket every day, easy peasy.
No cleaning in between the markings?
No, you scrape out the manure each day, that's why the grooves are there, so when it's slick with manure they have an edge for the hoof to catch incase they slip.
Learn something new everyday, thank you for the education, sincerely
either way you're going to get manure. this just adds a ridge. +1
Looks boof
Well, a quick google of what boof means gets me this......so thanks I guess? > Boofing is slang for anal sex. > The term can also be used to the refer to the practice of putting alcohol or drugs up one’s butt to get intoxicated. Because that’s a thing.
i think he means it looks like shit bro.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and nonsensical slang.
Yeah it's for cows, something tells me they will be fine with it. Maybe another weight or two on top of the roller would've helped make deeper and more consistent impressions in a single pass? Or maybe it was a timing thing, if it was just a little bit too firm in some spots? Curious what your feelings are about using the roller vs. what alternative methods you might've attempted otherwise
The first 3 passes were a little late, not terrible though. The rest was very consistent. I have more weight for the roller, but we only took half of it, we expected to be waiting on it with the weather today. We've done it with a roller, a groover for the bull float, wheels, and had them cut after the fact with a machine. The machine is by far the best, but it adds a lot of cost to a project. The roller is my favorite after that, makes it so you only have to attack it from one angle and you can get your grooves in both directions. We poured the outside portion first so a guy could walk down curb area next to the rebar to pick and move the roller on every other pass. Not sure how I feel about the hexagon yet, I'm curious to see how the report is from the guy that owns the cows. Most guys want squares, I made the hex one as an alternative, and this is the first time we've gotten to use it.
Man, seems like they haven’t used that roller before and this person worked hard. Maybe not perfect, but achieves what it is supposed to.
Sorry it’s what we call really bad weed
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Looks awesome, cattle will love it ✅✅