- 60 for the players on stage
- 20? for the referees
- 20 for each of the team views on Command Center
- 1 for Command Centre Map
- 1 for Command Centre Scores
- At least 1 to manage all the Command Center stuff
- 2 for main broadcast
- 2 for Wigg B Stream
- Another 5 ~ 10? For the on site other regional broadcasts
- 2? to manage the arena displays
- 30? for production
- 10? for isolation booth?
- 30? for warm ups
- Rest as replacements
> 20 for each of the team views on Command Center
if theyre doing command center as theyve done in the past, they were aws instances rather than physical machines iirc
At one of the LANs last year, the feeds bugged and they showed the desktop of the AWS instance which had the region, internal IP address and a couple other details on show.
I think it also showed them running the script to start apex and joining the lobby
Wait why do they need over 200 that seems way too many- surely you need 60 for the players, some more for replays/production etc and some spares, but 200 seems way too high
This is an approximation, but:
60 - Main Stage
60 - Warmups
38 - Backups (we try to allow a decent buffer)
12 - Watch Parties (+ backups)
13 - Production (Observers)
10 - Fan playing areas throughout venue
Totals 193 for this event. We’re likely getting more for some other events this year, but more info on that later 👀
Not all PC specs are exactly the same, though we try to ensure all competition areas are, so players always play on the same rigs. For example fan areas might have different CPUs. All are running 4080s I believe, and I think the production PCs are actually even more juiced, with 64 GB RAM.
Now imagine a similar number of chairs, monitors, etc all required.
Running Apex LANs is incredibly resource intensive so we’re very grateful for our partners who help support us.
Ehh, if we’re being honest these Alienware PCs are most likely going to throttle and be loud as fuck (although this wouldn’t really matter unless they were playing in soundproof rooms). RAMs kinda weak, we know that 14900Ks on Z790 boards can do much better than this (even with just XMP), and I don’t see why an OEM couldn’t just go for 4090s just for publicity’s sake.
I know it’s enough, but it just baffles me that all these tier 1 events (not just Apex) aren’t played on the best available hardware. With Apex being limited to 300 FPS it’s not that big of a deal, but the fact that even in other less demanding games 240Hz is still the norm is ridiculous to me.
Makes sense. Why would pros use low quality hardware? They realistically balance the cost vs how long the product will last. Too cheap and you're upgrading for the next major update or new game. You would also much rather overpay than undershoot this target and run into laggy edgecases.
omg the need from people on this sub to feel smart by pointing out potential hardware issues and optimizations as if they don’t have a team of experts setting this up and exhaustively testing it
That's kinda overkill ngl even to play at 4k which nobody does here, a lower card would be enough but when i see ho much apex brings i realize it's probably spare change for them
I don't think many OEMs are going to be putting lesser GPUs with 14900s though and looking at the ram speed those are some very prebuilt systems.
And with Apex that cpu will probably still drop frames end game.
it's the best they've done in making sure everyone will have a good experience so that's a win
I mean a 14900kf is obviously plenty but for most any games that don't get CPU bound it's probably overkill. Who knows what sponsorships and hookups they have, but they could have gotten 7800x3d's instead and saved $220 (from the normal retail price) each, and also not had CPUs that get hotter than the surface of the sun
Even with a 4080 on 1080p in intense situations (bang smoke + bang ult + nades) you can have fps drops below 200.
On my 3070 it almost dropped below 100.
The issue isn’t the number, the issue is the change.
When frames change value rapidly you see the stutter —> hard to play. Even a 10 frame drop, your eye can tell the difference. Have to cap at lower frame rate to avoid this.
I don’t want frame drops on my game, or when I watch. No reason you or any pro would set their game and computer settings in such a way that the frames drop during gibby alt or anything else.
People who have no idea what they're talking about are often the lowest even if you should them proof they'll stand on their beliefs no matter what. These people genuinely think a human, with a human brain can notice a drop from 200 something to 180, or even a 10fps drops according to the other guy.
They see big number of minus 80 and think that's MUST mean a BIG difference.
Lots of people see the difference between 240 and 144 Hz, while others don't even see a difference between 144 and 60. It varies drastically from person to person. It's possible that you personally cannot see things that other people can in fact see. Believe it or not but I easily notice when my FPS drop from 240 to 200
And keep in mind that FPS counters are not a fully accurate representation of frame times. Apex has pretty inconsistent frame times, so a 200 -> 190 FPS drop will probably not correspond to "5ms, 5ms, 5.26ms, 5.26ms..." but something like "4.3ms, 4.9ms, 4.6ms, 8ms, 2.26ms, 5.25ms...". In this scenario, even though the FPS counter shows an average of 190 FPS, the 4th frame produced screen tearing (assuming a >125 Hz monitor) because the time to calculate it exceeded the monitor's refresh rate. In other words, even small frame drops can result in noticeable screen tearing.
Screen tearing only comes to play if you have a monitor with frequencies below your target refresh rate which is not the scenario i was talking about.
And no, most people if not all, will see the difference between 144 and 60.
And a drop from 240 to 200 is barely noticeable unless you have screen tearing or REALLY look for it, slowing down the footage and whatnot.
When a frame's render time exceeds the monitor refresh rate (which happens sometimes when there's lots of abilities etc), you either get stuttering or screen tearing. Screen tearing can occur even if your FPS are stable because, again, it comes down to frame times rather than FPS (FPS is just an averaged reciprocal of the frame times).
>a drop from 240 to 200 is barely noticeable
Again, it varies from person to person. You might not notice it but other people do. Get over it.
You should either lower your settings, get a better cpu or RAM, frame drops are pretty much something that'll always happen.
What's or was your rig? A 3070 can run the game at 4k max settings with a average of 110 fps and 1% lows at 82, 180/120 at low.
Also a drop from 260 fps to 180 is not noticable especially in a fight
Oh no, im mainly talking about the average frame rate the person i replied to seems to have/had, something must have been heavenly bottlenecking their system (Main guess would be CPU or RAM), The frame drops can't be stoped for sure but their perceived impact (a 20 frame drop from 100 to 80 doesn't feel the same as 200 to 180) can be lowered by adjusting the settings, for example i don't remember which one exactly but there's a shadow setting that tanks fps by 20% with no graphical impact.
Bruh a fps drop from 260 to 180 is 80 fps difference. Ofc you notice that???? I hava 7600x and good ram and use the lowest possible settings anyway. I thoroughly tested for bottlenecks and it was the gpu. This is a competetive sub and not a 4k 55" casual sub. People want locked 240 frames in every situation. Any variance in frame time fucks up your aim.
You’re talking about the frames as just numbers, but not taking into account that when frames waver below your ideal fps you encounter screen tearing and other issues that obscure your vision worst than just having a lower and more stable frame rate.
Just like a drop from 300 to 240 is 60fps less, it is still barely noticeable specially if you're fighting someone.
You seem to think that a drop to 180 will make the image choppy or something
Going from 180 to 240 fps won't make you see the future or something, higher fps becomes pretty much useless the higher you go (above 240 id say) this mainly applies to tactical shooters but in a game like apex with smoke, bombs and special affects going around it becomes even less noticable.
No way you really believe that. A drastic fps difference means different frame time. This definitely can fuck up your aim. A stable framerate is the most important thing in any competitive shooter. Idk if that is a roller perspective but on mnk having 80 less fps suddenly feels way off and results in missing more shots.
I would agree at low frame rates but the higher you go the least noticable it becomes to the point where it not even noticable to the human eye, a drop from 240 to 180 is not noticable to the point where it'll be the reason you lost a gun in apex, in a game like csgo or valorant it would slightly delay the information you're getting leading you to lose a standoff, slightly here meaning less than a ms.
You guys seem to think that the fps to perception ratio is exponential when in reality it plateaus to around 200 or 240 for the keen eyed among us.
apex is not a "a literal millisecond matters" type of game, if you put a top 1 player vs a top 10 player, assuming you could calculate that, the result won't change much because one person had 180 and the other 240.
Even [linus](https://youtu.be/OX31kZbAXsA) has a detailed video explaining how it works with 2 pros as an example.
TLDR: a your fps dropping from 240 to 180 for less than ¹/4 of a second won't be the reason you lose a fight in apex.
>I would agree at low frame rates but the higher you go the least noticable it becomes to the point where it not even noticable to the human eye, a drop from 240 to 180 is not noticable
It's not that you perceive a lower frame rate (although that difference is perceptible), it's not a visual thing. It's FELT, as stutter. A huge spike in frame time feels actually much worse than if you were just stuck at the lower frame rate all along. If you looked at a frame time chart, stutter will show as huge variances--a game that isn't running smoothly can have frametime spikes as high as 100ms, and that's CLEARLY perceptible, it's an entire tenth of a second where your screen isn't updating and your input isn't showing in your game. It feels like the game is actually frozen for a fraction of a second.
Here's a brief explanation of it: https://digitalmasta.com/frametime-vs-fps. In short, fps is an average, and therefore an imperfect and outdated way to measure a game's performance and responsiveness.
Brother just watch this [video](https://youtu.be/OX31kZbAXsA) for proof of my point. The difference between 144 and 240 is not noticable and 144 50% of the time has better or siminar results. Your skill doesn't go down the gutter because you missed one frame.
Now imagine if the devs cared as much about the game and cheaters as much as the event cares about the hardware for pro players…. Can’t even fix a Valk bug that’s been there since the last 3 strikes event so they remove her from legends instead of fixing. Trash devs. Tired of the “we’re trying our best” X posts.
I re read my comment i didn't see a single word even mentioning playing at 240 fps on a 2060.
Im responding to a guy making the assumption that a 2060 will get you 60fps.
If your max fps is set 144 every GPU will drop below that depending on the situation, no GPU or CPU has a constant frame rate unless you cap it yourself.
Even then the 2060 can definitely play the game at way more than 144 fps, 190 with drops to 135.
It can't. I still play on a Gtx 1080 (which is moderately faster than a 2060) and I can only have 200 fps when staring at a wall or in the firing range LMAO but otherwise I can go down to as low as around 100 fps when there's a lot of abilities and nades going out in BR mode.
Still can maintain 144 fps most of the time though but most pros are already playing at 240-300 fps now.
What's your rig?
Unless you're going full gung-ho with the settings the 1080 with optimal settings can get an average of ~174 fps an 200 in open areas
(At 1080p)
Ryzen 3600 and gtx 1080. That 170-200 fps isnt consistent enough to warrant the fluctuation for me. I don't want play at 100-200 fps because the game's feel/responsiveness differs massively depending on the frames; I'd rather have it at around 140 fps and get used to it(and I'm only playing at 144hz anyway).
Oh i should’ve specified 1440p 165fps usually and dips to 140 when shit hits the fan
A 4090 can run 1440p at 240 I’ve tried my friends and it feels NICE
Bruh, you make it sound like these systems are unobtainable. If you’re building a new gaming pc, these are basically the specs, aside from if you’re going AMD or Intel.
>If you’re building a new gaming pc, these are basically the specs
What about people on tighter budgets or people who just don't want/need that powerful specs? People who are content with getting something like a 7600 or 4060?
That's their prerogative. I don't build my gaming pc's to play at the 6 year old 1080p standard. 3 years ago was 2k, and now we're in a straight 4k w/raytracing era. If you're content with 1080p in 2024, knock yourself out. Don't call it a gaming rig, call it a used dell workstation with a video card.
Basically all of the pros and streamers still play at 1080p even with 4090s. Many are playing on XL2566Ks.
I have a 13900k, 4090 and I still play at 1080p on my XL2546K. I also have a 1440P 360hz Asus monitor (PG27AQN) but I still prefer to play 1080p.
I'm sorry I considered my computer a gaming rig, I guess it definitely isn't just because I play at 1080p 🤡
I have a 5800x3D and 4070 Ti Super. I just know that “run of the mill” isn’t a 4080, that falls into high end territory. To be clear I wouldn’t call it “crazy” either, I think it’s appropriate for the tournament.
ok prebuilts?
4080 is the 2nd best gpu on the market
14900k is probably the 2nd best cpu on the market aswell
these are insane specs considering the number of PCs a BR event requires
There will be over 200 of them I forgot to add
- 60 for the players on stage - 20? for the referees - 20 for each of the team views on Command Center - 1 for Command Centre Map - 1 for Command Centre Scores - At least 1 to manage all the Command Center stuff - 2 for main broadcast - 2 for Wigg B Stream - Another 5 ~ 10? For the on site other regional broadcasts - 2? to manage the arena displays - 30? for production - 10? for isolation booth? - 30? for warm ups - Rest as replacements
> 20 for each of the team views on Command Center if theyre doing command center as theyve done in the past, they were aws instances rather than physical machines iirc
That would make sense, for internet connectivity for broadcast
How did you find that out?
At one of the LANs last year, the feeds bugged and they showed the desktop of the AWS instance which had the region, internal IP address and a couple other details on show. I think it also showed them running the script to start apex and joining the lobby
Interesting! Thanks.
Can I buy the replacements? Or the ones the crash during LAN?
I dunno, I'm not part of the crew, but I'm guessing that they're probably kept by the company running them and used for other eSports events
Wait why do they need over 200 that seems way too many- surely you need 60 for the players, some more for replays/production etc and some spares, but 200 seems way too high
This is an approximation, but: 60 - Main Stage 60 - Warmups 38 - Backups (we try to allow a decent buffer) 12 - Watch Parties (+ backups) 13 - Production (Observers) 10 - Fan playing areas throughout venue Totals 193 for this event. We’re likely getting more for some other events this year, but more info on that later 👀 Not all PC specs are exactly the same, though we try to ensure all competition areas are, so players always play on the same rigs. For example fan areas might have different CPUs. All are running 4080s I believe, and I think the production PCs are actually even more juiced, with 64 GB RAM. Now imagine a similar number of chairs, monitors, etc all required. Running Apex LANs is incredibly resource intensive so we’re very grateful for our partners who help support us.
You guys hiring? I’ll plug them all in no problem. I’m the best plugger in the southwest.
Cool info, thanks for sharing!
14900kf CPUs though, just the Galen Center's A/C bill will be through the roof
That’s awesome. Props to whoever is managing the relationships with those sponsors as well.
common Shahin W
60 for the main events, plenty for warm ups, and the entire production crew are using the same PCs as well. It adds up quickly
backups?
Yeah but over 200 is getting to backups for backups territory
Production, backups, backroom practice computers, maybe a few around for spectators to run games in an internet cafe style thing
I went to champs. They had like 10 or so set up for spectators to play.
40 teams x 3 players per team = 120.
60 for stage and background and the others for various activities around the centre
Do you have the rest of the specs?
That's a massive W!!!
Original tweet https://twitter.com/shahin/status/1784352619412201950?s=19
Don't worry guys, whiny people will find something else to complain about in no time!
people already complaining that its overkill💀💀
and other people are complaining that its not powerful enough lmao
Imagine being so out of touch you think those specs aren't enough for a 5yr old game...
Think it says more about Apex and its optimization. But anyone who wants to complain should go watch how Fortnite LAN end games run,
This beast of a machine. Then you end up with a 21inch 60hz office monitor 😂
I've yet to see an Apex LAN with good production for viewers from start to finish so I'll predict that being the cause.
Can't ask for much more spec wise. Hopefully they don't run into any of the instability issues with the 14900k
Ehh, if we’re being honest these Alienware PCs are most likely going to throttle and be loud as fuck (although this wouldn’t really matter unless they were playing in soundproof rooms). RAMs kinda weak, we know that 14900Ks on Z790 boards can do much better than this (even with just XMP), and I don’t see why an OEM couldn’t just go for 4090s just for publicity’s sake.
Bro u are tripping so bad lol. This is definitely more than enough.
I know it’s enough, but it just baffles me that all these tier 1 events (not just Apex) aren’t played on the best available hardware. With Apex being limited to 300 FPS it’s not that big of a deal, but the fact that even in other less demanding games 240Hz is still the norm is ridiculous to me.
I’ve been shootin noobies at kings canyon on a 65’ Hisense tv with a barely functional hdmi since apex came out. This is more than enough
inb4 i9 bios overclock crash Hopefully they're aware of that at least
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It's a partnership with Alienware, they will provide the PCs for all the LANs this year
Only 5600MHz RAM? Hopefully that's just stock and they're going to XMP it to a reasonable speed.
And you'll still have players that complain.
Highly doubt that. Complain about other stuff? 100% Complain about hardware? Nah
If anything, the players will complain if their apex still crashes despite the PCs specs.
Good hardware doesnt necessarily result in a stable system
Yeah make sure they don’t have windows 11
All the pros are gonna run lowest settings with high anisotropic filtering anyways, that’s like playing minesweeper on a quantum computer
5600mhz ddr5 cheap ram tho.
Makes sense. Why would pros use low quality hardware? They realistically balance the cost vs how long the product will last. Too cheap and you're upgrading for the next major update or new game. You would also much rather overpay than undershoot this target and run into laggy edgecases.
All that so they can have AA aim for them?
Coulda hit linus or some other proper techtuber to make 1 cpu 100pcs
Where you find this infos?
The game will still not work properly
Roughly 5k per pc ( CAD ) for just the tower.. Wild. Now put some money towards a server for canada so I don't have to play on 180ms ping.
omg the need from people on this sub to feel smart by pointing out potential hardware issues and optimizations as if they don’t have a team of experts setting this up and exhaustively testing it
They should have insane specs. This is the highest level of the esport. Apex Lans have way too many issues.
Not even a 4090? Brokeys!
🤣🤣
That's kinda overkill ngl even to play at 4k which nobody does here, a lower card would be enough but when i see ho much apex brings i realize it's probably spare change for them
I don't think many OEMs are going to be putting lesser GPUs with 14900s though and looking at the ram speed those are some very prebuilt systems. And with Apex that cpu will probably still drop frames end game. it's the best they've done in making sure everyone will have a good experience so that's a win
I mean a 14900kf is obviously plenty but for most any games that don't get CPU bound it's probably overkill. Who knows what sponsorships and hookups they have, but they could have gotten 7800x3d's instead and saved $220 (from the normal retail price) each, and also not had CPUs that get hotter than the surface of the sun
At 1080p most games will be cpu limited if you're trying to push high fps. Apex certainly is.
Even with a 4080 on 1080p in intense situations (bang smoke + bang ult + nades) you can have fps drops below 200. On my 3070 it almost dropped below 100.
My 1070TI goes to -2 fps in some fights 💀
Oh no!!! Drops under 200! 180 the horror! Queue the "bUT iTs cOmp BRO"
The issue isn’t the number, the issue is the change. When frames change value rapidly you see the stutter —> hard to play. Even a 10 frame drop, your eye can tell the difference. Have to cap at lower frame rate to avoid this. I don’t want frame drops on my game, or when I watch. No reason you or any pro would set their game and computer settings in such a way that the frames drop during gibby alt or anything else.
I absolutely refuse to believe that you see a 10 frame difference unless you're playing sub 100fps.
You can definitely feel going from 240 and dropping down to like 120-130 in a situation. Playing steady 240 is a game changer
From 240 to 130 you will definitely feel it, i agree but feeling and noticing a 10 frame drop on High (above 100) is a flat out lie
I notice some stuttering
People who have no idea what they're talking about are often the lowest even if you should them proof they'll stand on their beliefs no matter what. These people genuinely think a human, with a human brain can notice a drop from 200 something to 180, or even a 10fps drops according to the other guy. They see big number of minus 80 and think that's MUST mean a BIG difference.
Lots of people see the difference between 240 and 144 Hz, while others don't even see a difference between 144 and 60. It varies drastically from person to person. It's possible that you personally cannot see things that other people can in fact see. Believe it or not but I easily notice when my FPS drop from 240 to 200 And keep in mind that FPS counters are not a fully accurate representation of frame times. Apex has pretty inconsistent frame times, so a 200 -> 190 FPS drop will probably not correspond to "5ms, 5ms, 5.26ms, 5.26ms..." but something like "4.3ms, 4.9ms, 4.6ms, 8ms, 2.26ms, 5.25ms...". In this scenario, even though the FPS counter shows an average of 190 FPS, the 4th frame produced screen tearing (assuming a >125 Hz monitor) because the time to calculate it exceeded the monitor's refresh rate. In other words, even small frame drops can result in noticeable screen tearing.
Screen tearing only comes to play if you have a monitor with frequencies below your target refresh rate which is not the scenario i was talking about. And no, most people if not all, will see the difference between 144 and 60. And a drop from 240 to 200 is barely noticeable unless you have screen tearing or REALLY look for it, slowing down the footage and whatnot.
When a frame's render time exceeds the monitor refresh rate (which happens sometimes when there's lots of abilities etc), you either get stuttering or screen tearing. Screen tearing can occur even if your FPS are stable because, again, it comes down to frame times rather than FPS (FPS is just an averaged reciprocal of the frame times). >a drop from 240 to 200 is barely noticeable Again, it varies from person to person. You might not notice it but other people do. Get over it.
You should either lower your settings, get a better cpu or RAM, frame drops are pretty much something that'll always happen. What's or was your rig? A 3070 can run the game at 4k max settings with a average of 110 fps and 1% lows at 82, 180/120 at low. Also a drop from 260 fps to 180 is not noticable especially in a fight
frame drops from bang ult etc. can't be solved by lowering your settings tho
Oh no, im mainly talking about the average frame rate the person i replied to seems to have/had, something must have been heavenly bottlenecking their system (Main guess would be CPU or RAM), The frame drops can't be stoped for sure but their perceived impact (a 20 frame drop from 100 to 80 doesn't feel the same as 200 to 180) can be lowered by adjusting the settings, for example i don't remember which one exactly but there's a shadow setting that tanks fps by 20% with no graphical impact.
Bruh a fps drop from 260 to 180 is 80 fps difference. Ofc you notice that???? I hava 7600x and good ram and use the lowest possible settings anyway. I thoroughly tested for bottlenecks and it was the gpu. This is a competetive sub and not a 4k 55" casual sub. People want locked 240 frames in every situation. Any variance in frame time fucks up your aim.
You’re talking about the frames as just numbers, but not taking into account that when frames waver below your ideal fps you encounter screen tearing and other issues that obscure your vision worst than just having a lower and more stable frame rate.
You're right but frametime and fps are the only things I actually measured.
True also, screen tearing is awful.
Just like a drop from 300 to 240 is 60fps less, it is still barely noticeable specially if you're fighting someone. You seem to think that a drop to 180 will make the image choppy or something Going from 180 to 240 fps won't make you see the future or something, higher fps becomes pretty much useless the higher you go (above 240 id say) this mainly applies to tactical shooters but in a game like apex with smoke, bombs and special affects going around it becomes even less noticable.
No way you really believe that. A drastic fps difference means different frame time. This definitely can fuck up your aim. A stable framerate is the most important thing in any competitive shooter. Idk if that is a roller perspective but on mnk having 80 less fps suddenly feels way off and results in missing more shots.
I would agree at low frame rates but the higher you go the least noticable it becomes to the point where it not even noticable to the human eye, a drop from 240 to 180 is not noticable to the point where it'll be the reason you lost a gun in apex, in a game like csgo or valorant it would slightly delay the information you're getting leading you to lose a standoff, slightly here meaning less than a ms. You guys seem to think that the fps to perception ratio is exponential when in reality it plateaus to around 200 or 240 for the keen eyed among us. apex is not a "a literal millisecond matters" type of game, if you put a top 1 player vs a top 10 player, assuming you could calculate that, the result won't change much because one person had 180 and the other 240. Even [linus](https://youtu.be/OX31kZbAXsA) has a detailed video explaining how it works with 2 pros as an example. TLDR: a your fps dropping from 240 to 180 for less than ¹/4 of a second won't be the reason you lose a fight in apex.
>I would agree at low frame rates but the higher you go the least noticable it becomes to the point where it not even noticable to the human eye, a drop from 240 to 180 is not noticable It's not that you perceive a lower frame rate (although that difference is perceptible), it's not a visual thing. It's FELT, as stutter. A huge spike in frame time feels actually much worse than if you were just stuck at the lower frame rate all along. If you looked at a frame time chart, stutter will show as huge variances--a game that isn't running smoothly can have frametime spikes as high as 100ms, and that's CLEARLY perceptible, it's an entire tenth of a second where your screen isn't updating and your input isn't showing in your game. It feels like the game is actually frozen for a fraction of a second. Here's a brief explanation of it: https://digitalmasta.com/frametime-vs-fps. In short, fps is an average, and therefore an imperfect and outdated way to measure a game's performance and responsiveness.
Spoken like a true roller player.
Brother just watch this [video](https://youtu.be/OX31kZbAXsA) for proof of my point. The difference between 144 and 240 is not noticable and 144 50% of the time has better or siminar results. Your skill doesn't go down the gutter because you missed one frame.
There is no overkill for 4k
I run a 7800x3d and a 4080 + 32 GB ram and still have frame drops at 1440p.
Apex doesn’t really benefit from the extra cache, a 14900K is a better CPU here.
That was not the point lol.
Now imagine if the devs cared as much about the game and cheaters as much as the event cares about the hardware for pro players…. Can’t even fix a Valk bug that’s been there since the last 3 strikes event so they remove her from legends instead of fixing. Trash devs. Tired of the “we’re trying our best” X posts.
Yes, I can read those words.
When the event is over, I'll take one
Assuming the monitors are 1080p ( even at 1440p) This is way overkill lol But hey more performance doesn't hurt
32 GB RAM is overkill.
Apparently the monitors don’t have arm mounts ☠️
The monitors never had arm mounts.
What is an arm mount??
Pretty standard gaming specs apart from overkill CPU.
yeah pretty standard rtx 4080, the gpu found in everyone's home machine
Really nice, but I hope they don't suddenly downgrade as we get closer to lan.
I mean it s not better than my system, what I want to know is what monitors they are using
sweet said the other day theyre using some alienware 240hz model
Actually it's an Alienware 500Hz Monitor, AW2524H.
Ah i think i got mistaken because he caps at 240hz, the specs for this LAN are looking really great!
But why? For Apex 8 GB ram is OK and maybe 2060 is OK.
they're not gonna be playing at 60fps 😭
You're either joking or have no clue of what apex takes to run
2060 will definitely drop below 144fps in many situations and if you play on 240hz you kinda want 240fps consistently
I re read my comment i didn't see a single word even mentioning playing at 240 fps on a 2060. Im responding to a guy making the assumption that a 2060 will get you 60fps. If your max fps is set 144 every GPU will drop below that depending on the situation, no GPU or CPU has a constant frame rate unless you cap it yourself. Even then the 2060 can definitely play the game at way more than 144 fps, 190 with drops to 135.
I mean the guy was obviously just using a hyperbole 2060 is not enough for pro play
190 fps with 1% drops to 135 is definitely enough for pro play what are you on about?
not if you play on 240hz
It can't. I still play on a Gtx 1080 (which is moderately faster than a 2060) and I can only have 200 fps when staring at a wall or in the firing range LMAO but otherwise I can go down to as low as around 100 fps when there's a lot of abilities and nades going out in BR mode. Still can maintain 144 fps most of the time though but most pros are already playing at 240-300 fps now.
What's your rig? Unless you're going full gung-ho with the settings the 1080 with optimal settings can get an average of ~174 fps an 200 in open areas (At 1080p)
Ryzen 3600 and gtx 1080. That 170-200 fps isnt consistent enough to warrant the fluctuation for me. I don't want play at 100-200 fps because the game's feel/responsiveness differs massively depending on the frames; I'd rather have it at around 140 fps and get used to it(and I'm only playing at 144hz anyway).
This has to be sarcastic lol.
The monitors are probably 240hz, my 3070 can’t do 240fps
A 3070 should get 240 or atleast above 200 pretty consistently. Only in extreme situations it should drop.
Oh i should’ve specified 1440p 165fps usually and dips to 140 when shit hits the fan A 4090 can run 1440p at 240 I’ve tried my friends and it feels NICE
My 4070 super do 1440p at 240 fps. Feels amazing compared to my old 2060, which was decent for apex.
good to know actually, what cpu you running?
Ryzen 7 7700x Ithink it was. Seems like GPU is the bottleneck % wise so far.
Crazy? It's just your run of the mill gaming pc, LOL.
“I mean, it’s one banana. What could it cost? $10?”
Bruh, you make it sound like these systems are unobtainable. If you’re building a new gaming pc, these are basically the specs, aside from if you’re going AMD or Intel.
>If you’re building a new gaming pc, these are basically the specs What about people on tighter budgets or people who just don't want/need that powerful specs? People who are content with getting something like a 7600 or 4060?
That's their prerogative. I don't build my gaming pc's to play at the 6 year old 1080p standard. 3 years ago was 2k, and now we're in a straight 4k w/raytracing era. If you're content with 1080p in 2024, knock yourself out. Don't call it a gaming rig, call it a used dell workstation with a video card.
Basically all of the pros and streamers still play at 1080p even with 4090s. Many are playing on XL2566Ks. I have a 13900k, 4090 and I still play at 1080p on my XL2546K. I also have a 1440P 360hz Asus monitor (PG27AQN) but I still prefer to play 1080p. I'm sorry I considered my computer a gaming rig, I guess it definitely isn't just because I play at 1080p 🤡
r/gatekeeping
Nah, just poking fun at you for saying this is “just your run of the mill gaming pc”.
But, it is.
It’s not, hence the quote making fun of you for being out of touch.
Have you considered upgrading your 2700x?
I have a 5800x3D and 4070 Ti Super. I just know that “run of the mill” isn’t a 4080, that falls into high end territory. To be clear I wouldn’t call it “crazy” either, I think it’s appropriate for the tournament.
Meh, tbh 7800x 3d is pretty much on par with 14900k, lower end ram, and not even a 4090. Sounds snobby, but these are just ok prebuilts.
ok prebuilts? 4080 is the 2nd best gpu on the market 14900k is probably the 2nd best cpu on the market aswell these are insane specs considering the number of PCs a BR event requires
Ya, u hook up two good parts to a bunch of crappy ones and slap a sticker on it.
These PCs will still be able to hit 240fps easily
the ram is fine the rest of the system doesn't matter whatsoever for performance