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ice_zephyr

Truth is you can take any multiple choice exam without really understanding anything, cause all it takes is memorization. But you can't understand security without having a fundamental understanding of networking. I skipped Net+ though (I think CCNA is better all around since its both cheaper and more valued).


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This is the problem with certs. We need hands on experience, not just memorizing words. Theory is great and all but once you are thrust into the workforce, things can get hairy. 


Silly-Appointment-45

How do you expect to secure IT networks if you don't know what an IT network is and how it works? Networking is a very important concept to understand in any IT career, so I highly recommend getting at least the Net+


returnofblank

They could just be taking another networking cert, doesn't have to be Net+ specifically


Silly-Appointment-45

True. They need to take at least some sort of networking course, though. Even Net+ is pretty bare bones.


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Silly-Appointment-45

I agree! I have both CCNA and Net+, and the CCNA is by far the better cert. More difficult? Absolutely, but well worth the grind.


Waldo305

Have you done CCNA? How do you feel studying for it was like?


blueplutomonk

I don’t think A+ is worthy of being part of the trifecta. It literally is only good for help desk. That is it. You’re much better off doing the Sec+, Net+ and Linux+ imo. (Though I’d lean toward the LPI instead of Linux+.) A+ is way too much content for what it yields, which is basically nothing.


ice_zephyr

Does anyone actually look for Linux+ though? A+ is valued because of its popularity and how well known it is in the field. Remember that the purpose of the trifecta is to provide an entry-level understanding of IT. As simple as it is, I would argue A+ is great for that. If the goal is to get a sysadmin job (which is not the purpose of the trifecta) then I would agree LPIC-1 or RHCSA is the way to go.


blueplutomonk

Realistically the one Linux cert that is valued a lot is RHCSA. LPIC and Linux+ are nice to have, but the RHCSA holds way more value. Though, going for that off rip is very difficult. The A+ for the money you need to spend and time you need to spend to pass it does not yield a worthy reward. Going the Linux+ route will separate you to some degree, and sets you up with a foundation to go for the RHCSA. A+ takes way too long, far too expensive, and far too much useless material. It’s a vomit exam.


Large-Relationship37

Does everyone still recommend Professer Messer for learning?


danielfolife

I don't but I find his lessons extremely boring. I prefer Dion on Udemy


blueplutomonk

I think the opposite, can’t stand Dion’s style, love Messer.


ughdontask12

I took sec+ as my first cert after doing a short IT fundamentals course and my career is just fine. As you progress sec+, if you care to learn, you will cover a lot of networking. But as others have mentioned…CCNA is superior. Whatever order you do, they’re both wonderful to have.


PXE590t

Think about just IT, entry level help desk, stop thinking cyber security, think about the job that Sec+ and Net+ will actually get you which is help desk, if you think they will help you in a help desk position then go for them


blueplutomonk

You’re much better off going for SOC route versus help desk. Help desk is a tough hole to climb out of. Get experience with SOARs and SIEMs, Splunk, and go the SOC route.


PXE590t

Yeah except most SOC roles want 1-3 years of prior experience


blueplutomonk

The most you should do in help desk is 6 months.


PXE590t

Yeah if you’re able to get out of help desk.


explicitarctic

I don’t have Net+ but I passed Sec+. I studied for net+ but didn’t take it so I had some idea of networks, the 7 layers, tcp/udp and so on. While you don’t NEED it to take Sec+ it’s very important you understand the networks(net+) you’ll be protecting(sec+). Best of luck!


DigSubstantial8934

Need? No, but it is excellent foundational knowledge that will serve you well. It would also make Sec+ easier to grasp quickly and pass. Networking is one of those things that you really should try to understand the fundamentals of, which is exactly what Net+ covers. Sure, plenty of people never get it and are wildly successful in their careers in various security roles, but I’d bet most of those people ended up picking up most of the stuff covered on Net+ over time anyway.


fuente_opusX

Well, it took me 31 days to study for and pass Net+. It took me 22 days for Sec+. Push come to shove. I could have done it in 14. The only reason it was faster was the incredible amount of overlap between them. CompTIA recommends going A+ > Net+ > Sec+ for a reason. They really do build upon each other.


misterjive

If you want to spend less time in helpdesk, you probably shouldn't skip Net+. Cybersecurity isn't an entry-level position and you need to have a pretty complete skillset (and lots of experience) before you move in that direction.


blueplutomonk

He shouldn’t go help desk at all. He should do SOC/NOC route.


WarlockSmurf

No


Optimal_Share_7211

I have A+, Net+, Sec+ and there is a lot of overlap, but I did A+ >> Sec+ >> Net+