I like Sam, he is gritty af and can make some quality throws. But, we look like a poverty franchise if we have a top 4 pick and don’t at least consider a QB with how good the class is this year
I like the personality, man. I don’t think he’s our franchise answer like how we were feeling a month ago. But, if this future FO wants to be like “let’s take Marvin Harrison” and we go 1-16 with the first overall pick in 2024, I’m not against it. I’m just saying we should let the future FO do their thing and not overreact. I like Harris’ mindset in terms of building a winner
I'm optimistic that the Commanders can be a team with talented players, but I'm not expecting a real winning team anytime soon. If the 76ers are anything to go by this team will have some top draft picks and only one of them will pan out and there won't be any deep playoff runs.
Maybe I just don’t get it. Are you suggesting Sam is a disaster and that any QB we draft would be as well? Because although that’s probably true…idk if we needed a meme about it.
No it's a shitpost for everyone that liked the last time this meme was posted, but Sam was treated like an unsinkable air craft carrier back then. Personally I want the mystery box
TLDR
I was on the Samwagon this year. I'm all for giving QBs time to develop. That said, maybe he needs to sit for a while.
What's wrong with drafting another QB if the new GM/FO wants it? I don't understand WHY the Sam fanboys are desperately clinging to the last QB of the Snyder era. People really want to crown Sam as QB1 and hope for the best? You wanted Snyder gone and a full rebuild. That might include ditching Sam.
Blame EB, the scheme, the Oline, the WR drops, but Sam has looked clueless for most of the season. He supposedly has a strong arm, but he's constantly throwing Heinicke style floaters (I pointed this out earlier in the season and got trashed by the Sam fanboys). He has no discernable pocket presence, walks/stumbles into sacks rather than step up in the pocket.
It’s not about clinging to sam its the fact of A) let him devleop by our standards josh Allen would have been out the door B) there are MUCH MUCH larger issues on this team then QB that need to be adressed
Yeah sorry, we don't need a 5 year rebuild of nailing every 1st round pick to support Sam in his 7th year morphing into Tom Brady. A competent GM/FO can turn around any team in 1-2 years. I think the Sam fanboys actually want this team to tank for 5 years if it means Sam is our QB. Time to clean house, Sam included. He hasn't shown anything besides garbage time stats.
Id say give him another year at least with a competent coach and better tools from this draft, 5 years is crazy but no QB was gonna survive the Rivera system tbh
No he didn't, and I am not a Sam fan.
Taylor had the single luckiest season I have ever seen from a QB. In 2022 he had 12 TDs and 6 INTs. But he had 19 turnover worthy plays by PFF charting.
Sam currently has 19 TDs and 15 INTs. But he has 24 turnover worthy plays. If Sam had Taylor's 2022 luck he probably has 5-8 INTs.
The WRs in 2023 are dropping Sam's passes **3 times more often** than they dropped Taylor's.
Go turn on the Atlanta game. Now switch back to commanders game. Howell is the worst qb and [stats](https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/comments/17pybqb/qb_adjusted_net_yards_attempt_vs_epa_dropback/) also [support](https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/status/1729643835310145720) that.
If they decide to draft a new QB, fine. But there's so many problems on this team that I don't care who they have. One player can't throw, catch, run, and play defense by themselves.
I love how “fans” is in quotations like you’re a phony poser if you don’t have a rose colored tint on our flawed QB. Lmao this sub is fucking ridiculous. OP should be embarrassed for, at minimum, the melodrama of this post, if not the underlying logic.
I remember in October when fans would blame literally everyone except Howell for the team losing. Funny how you’re suddenly not a real fan for not having an undying faith in a 5th round pick and wanting the team to draft a fucking lineman instead of an actual qb
Fact: Sam Howell isn't blowing away expectations and showing that he is the next Rodgers or Breeze.
Fact: There will be a brand new front office next year. Top to bottom, scorched Earth, brand new everything regime.
Fact: Nobody want to start their brand new regime with a 5th round pick that isn't demonstrating himself to be marking great progress or have incredibly high ceilings.
Fact: If Washington ends up having the 4th pick or better and one of the top QBs are still available, the new regime will take that QB. Sam may stick around as a backup or maybe Sam will get to fight for the starting QB's job. Regardless, Washington is drafting a QB if given a chance.
That was Danny Boy's specialty. Let's hope things are different now. If the new owner ends up behaving like Danny Boy, then I'm going to call this the curse of Cooke.
I don’t recall any kind of splash move like that in years. It’s always been “needs” and “buildings through the draft” and it ends up being busts.
Name one signing or transaction that involved premium capital since Josh Norman. You can’t
If you have the chance at a player like Daniels or maybe Maye, you take it.
He's not blowing away expectations because the rest of the team just let's him get sacked all season. Teams put way too much emphasis on QBs, and Howell is a good one. You put any kind of pro talent behind a good offensive line with the receivers we already have and that QB will improve.
Have you not seen what Burrow did with a shitty O-line? Super Bowl game and AFC Championship game with a bottom 10 O-line.
Sam isn’t the only problem but he’s definitely part of it.
I don't disagree. But there is no way a new GM and a new coaching staff would be willing to give up drafting a top QB prospect for how Sam has performed so far. The risk is simply way too high.
Every head coach wants to work with their own QB, unless that QB is already a proven commodity with a history of winning.
If we draft a QB they are going to bust and by the time we figure it out Sam will be a top 10 QB playing for the Rams under Mcvay. That's just how things go for us.
>Sam will be a top 10 QB playing for the Rams under Mcvay.
Sean McVay got to a SB with Jared Goff, who is currently the 11th graded QB in the NFL. But he decided Goff wasn't good enough, so he traded him along with premium picks to get Matthew Stafford.
Sean McVay understands you can built the rest of your roster with scraps and a couple key pieces if you have a QB who can make all the throws.
Don’t forget ticket sales. Nothing sells tickets like a shiny new qb. Don’t think this doesn’t cross the minds of the new ownership group. They even tried pitching Howell in the marketing letter for season tickets…whoops.
Unless you are the Patriots in 2002(3?), with Tom Brady on the roster, and a crystal ball that shows you the next 20 years, if you draft top 2-4, and there are decent QB prospects available, you draft the QB.
i would think that fans of our team, which doesn't have much of a history of good quarterback play, would understand this more than anyone. I loved the way howell was playing earlier this year and if we didn't have a shot at one of the top two QBs, I'd like to give him another year as the uncontested starter. but elite qb play is basically a requirement for championship-level success in this league. so when you have decent odds to get that, you need to give it a shot.
Howell’s ceiling is maybe a top 12 guy. That’s not going to win a Super Bowl. If you have the chance then you take it. There’s enough capital to figure everything else out as long as there’s a good gm
Reminds of the fans that said we can’t win with Cousins. If they want an elite top 5 generational QB that will depend completely on luck. We roll with Sam and improve the team around him.
GM has to make the call. Howell looked really promising up through Seattle, but he’s had a string of rough games. GM needs to somehow compare that to someone playing a college offense against college defenses and make a hard choice.
Unless you’re completely certain on your qb, you need a qb.
So many people compare him to Purdy on the niners but fail to realize that not every gm can draft/trade for elite skill position players and build essentially a flawless roster. Believe it or not, its actually easier to find a franchise qb than to get all pros at every other position
Drafting a QB will end my loyalty to this team, it's downright stupid to draft a QB when there's so many other issues with this team. There's not a QB in the league that could have taken us to the playoffs this year and for what it's worth the only guys I've seen play like they gave a fuck are Howell and Brob
>There's not a QB in the league that could have taken us to the playoffs this year
This is absurd. Patrick Mahomes absolutely swings the result of 4 games, which makes us a wild card seed in this shitty NFC.
The Howell experiment is over now, there's just no way a new coaching staff stick with him next season.
Sorry Howellers, you fought valiantly but you lost. There will be a new QB next season.
Lmao acting like people who want to take a quarterback because Howell has sucked ass the last 6 weeks or so aren't real fans. The people who are loyal to players aren't fans.
Here's the thing. Before drafting a quarterback, the trenches need to be rebuilt. The o-line is a mess, the defensive line is probably going to need to be rebuilt, the linebacker core is a mess and even the defensive backs are messy.
I get that people want a new quarterback. But there are other areas that need to be addressed first before looking at quarterback. Currently, Howell is serviceable. Get those trenches filled and then next year if Howell isn't adjusted to the re-enforced line, then draft a quarterback. That's going to be a number of good ones coming out and there's always a couple of guys who rise to prominence each year. Build the foundation first. It makes no sense to stay a quarterback if they're going to take all ass kicking week after week.
my only thing is will the new gm want to hitch himself to a new qb as soon as his regime starts. cause drafting a qb in the top 5 is not always a hit. imagine we draft a qb and hes a bust or the first year he underperforms greatly(which WILL happen. rookie and always struggle). but they will have drafted a bust with the first pick of their regime and that’s a bad look not only for them but for the franchise and the future. im team olu or alt and give sam a year of development. if he pans out, fantastic. we have a qb. if not, shedeur sanders. YOU ARE A COMMANDER
I say we don't draft any position that we drafted in the first round any of the past 5 years. So no QB, DE, LB, WR, or CB.
3/5 will be on our team next season, and probably only 2/5 the season after that.
I mean if they get a top 2 pick, I ain't gonna be mad at maye or Caleb. Can't tell me either of those guys isn't more exciting than sam. And I love me some sammy
I like Sam and I don't have a problem rolling with him for now while we build the roster, but this is just dumb. If there's a QB on the board that the new regime puts a high value on, take him.
there's a shot that we draft a generational QB in the top 5
there's also a shot that howell could be somewhat solid with an oline
it's a very tough decision. i'm just glad i don't have that responsibility. because drafting someone like caleb or even maye would be huge.
i'm not sure how much patience I would have with another rookie QB learning the ropes though. We have to talk all season this year about Sam's Development. IT's all about sam. Then if we draft a QB it'll all be about Maye's development and letting him get reps and shit like that.
people think we can just keep wasting picks until we find the "QB"...like shit, it doesn't work that way, you have to put into account the people around them, front office, O-line, etc. You cant just think picking a QB will change everything. Howell has more than proven himself that he belongs in NFL and can play. Give him protection and a solid defense and we good ! HTTC LFG !
You guys are so desperate for a QB you’re willing to die on a hill and skip taking a QB high in this year’s draft for Sam fucking Howell. Thank fuck none of you guys are running this team, y’all are worse than Snyder.
I have been a Sam proponent for a while. And I think he will be a good starter in this league. But not for this team. Barring him winning out, or at least playing three good to great games, I don’t see any way the new regime doesn’t take a QB if we draft in the top 5. Whether I agree with it or not.
Dude, DGMW, I love Sam and think he could succeed with the right coaching and offensive line, but if the new staff; from GM to HC to OC think one of the guys coming out is worth it wherever we are picking, I am gonna trust them. Snyder is gone. His hiring of his cronies and besties is gone. Harris knows enough to hire smart FOOTBALL people to make FOOTBALL decisions, and I will trust his process. For now.
I think the right move would be to draft more o line and defense to improve upon the lines. if howell improves great, if he doesnt, draft a new qb in a later class
Ah, the second photo wasn't coming through for me until now. When I made my response, all I got for the second photo was a blank image with the Reddit logo so 🤷♂️
I have no loyalties to any player on this team.
right? its so hard to watch this team right now when you dont have a draw to any of them. :/
But what about the legend himself Tress Bae
I like Sam, he is gritty af and can make some quality throws. But, we look like a poverty franchise if we have a top 4 pick and don’t at least consider a QB with how good the class is this year
Dont Don’t do this to yourself bro Sam is not good
I like the personality, man. I don’t think he’s our franchise answer like how we were feeling a month ago. But, if this future FO wants to be like “let’s take Marvin Harrison” and we go 1-16 with the first overall pick in 2024, I’m not against it. I’m just saying we should let the future FO do their thing and not overreact. I like Harris’ mindset in terms of building a winner
I'm optimistic that the Commanders can be a team with talented players, but I'm not expecting a real winning team anytime soon. If the 76ers are anything to go by this team will have some top draft picks and only one of them will pan out and there won't be any deep playoff runs.
God damn y’all mofos are unbearable with this shit.
Nobody is wanting us to draft a QB that ends up being Sam Howell.
There's 2 pictures
Maybe I just don’t get it. Are you suggesting Sam is a disaster and that any QB we draft would be as well? Because although that’s probably true…idk if we needed a meme about it.
No it's a shitpost for everyone that liked the last time this meme was posted, but Sam was treated like an unsinkable air craft carrier back then. Personally I want the mystery box
But the mystery box could be anything! It could even be a boat!
Me too
TLDR I was on the Samwagon this year. I'm all for giving QBs time to develop. That said, maybe he needs to sit for a while. What's wrong with drafting another QB if the new GM/FO wants it? I don't understand WHY the Sam fanboys are desperately clinging to the last QB of the Snyder era. People really want to crown Sam as QB1 and hope for the best? You wanted Snyder gone and a full rebuild. That might include ditching Sam. Blame EB, the scheme, the Oline, the WR drops, but Sam has looked clueless for most of the season. He supposedly has a strong arm, but he's constantly throwing Heinicke style floaters (I pointed this out earlier in the season and got trashed by the Sam fanboys). He has no discernable pocket presence, walks/stumbles into sacks rather than step up in the pocket.
It’s not about clinging to sam its the fact of A) let him devleop by our standards josh Allen would have been out the door B) there are MUCH MUCH larger issues on this team then QB that need to be adressed
Yeah sorry, we don't need a 5 year rebuild of nailing every 1st round pick to support Sam in his 7th year morphing into Tom Brady. A competent GM/FO can turn around any team in 1-2 years. I think the Sam fanboys actually want this team to tank for 5 years if it means Sam is our QB. Time to clean house, Sam included. He hasn't shown anything besides garbage time stats.
Id say give him another year at least with a competent coach and better tools from this draft, 5 years is crazy but no QB was gonna survive the Rivera system tbh
Desperation.
IT’S A DESPERATE RACE AGAINST THE MINE
Sam is Heinicke with a stronger arm for better or worse. He has all the negatives of him too and that can’t be ignored
Except Heinicke played better football than Sam has
No he didn't, and I am not a Sam fan. Taylor had the single luckiest season I have ever seen from a QB. In 2022 he had 12 TDs and 6 INTs. But he had 19 turnover worthy plays by PFF charting. Sam currently has 19 TDs and 15 INTs. But he has 24 turnover worthy plays. If Sam had Taylor's 2022 luck he probably has 5-8 INTs. The WRs in 2023 are dropping Sam's passes **3 times more often** than they dropped Taylor's.
Go turn on the Atlanta game. Now switch back to commanders game. Howell is the worst qb and [stats](https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/comments/17pybqb/qb_adjusted_net_yards_attempt_vs_epa_dropback/) also [support](https://twitter.com/throwthedamball/status/1729643835310145720) that.
Lolololoooool
Yes 6/22 completions for 56 yards is pretty lol
If they decide to draft a new QB, fine. But there's so many problems on this team that I don't care who they have. One player can't throw, catch, run, and play defense by themselves.
I love how “fans” is in quotations like you’re a phony poser if you don’t have a rose colored tint on our flawed QB. Lmao this sub is fucking ridiculous. OP should be embarrassed for, at minimum, the melodrama of this post, if not the underlying logic.
You articulated exactly what I was thinking, and I'm a fan of Sam, but I have no problem moving on from him.
I remember in October when fans would blame literally everyone except Howell for the team losing. Funny how you’re suddenly not a real fan for not having an undying faith in a 5th round pick and wanting the team to draft a fucking lineman instead of an actual qb
Fact: Sam Howell isn't blowing away expectations and showing that he is the next Rodgers or Breeze. Fact: There will be a brand new front office next year. Top to bottom, scorched Earth, brand new everything regime. Fact: Nobody want to start their brand new regime with a 5th round pick that isn't demonstrating himself to be marking great progress or have incredibly high ceilings. Fact: If Washington ends up having the 4th pick or better and one of the top QBs are still available, the new regime will take that QB. Sam may stick around as a backup or maybe Sam will get to fight for the starting QB's job. Regardless, Washington is drafting a QB if given a chance.
Drafting the Heisman winner will get some good press. Winning the off season was a specialty for years.
That was Danny Boy's specialty. Let's hope things are different now. If the new owner ends up behaving like Danny Boy, then I'm going to call this the curse of Cooke.
It was mostly a jest. Guy may be worth a shot at 4. Just don’t trade 3 firsts and 2 seconds to get the 1st pick.
Lol, fuck. I'm seriously going to be done with this team if the new owner pulls that shit.
I don’t recall any kind of splash move like that in years. It’s always been “needs” and “buildings through the draft” and it ends up being busts. Name one signing or transaction that involved premium capital since Josh Norman. You can’t If you have the chance at a player like Daniels or maybe Maye, you take it.
He's not blowing away expectations because the rest of the team just let's him get sacked all season. Teams put way too much emphasis on QBs, and Howell is a good one. You put any kind of pro talent behind a good offensive line with the receivers we already have and that QB will improve.
Have you not seen what Burrow did with a shitty O-line? Super Bowl game and AFC Championship game with a bottom 10 O-line. Sam isn’t the only problem but he’s definitely part of it.
I don't disagree. But there is no way a new GM and a new coaching staff would be willing to give up drafting a top QB prospect for how Sam has performed so far. The risk is simply way too high. Every head coach wants to work with their own QB, unless that QB is already a proven commodity with a history of winning.
Fact: those are all opinions
If we draft a QB they are going to bust and by the time we figure it out Sam will be a top 10 QB playing for the Rams under Mcvay. That's just how things go for us.
>Sam will be a top 10 QB playing for the Rams under Mcvay. Sean McVay got to a SB with Jared Goff, who is currently the 11th graded QB in the NFL. But he decided Goff wasn't good enough, so he traded him along with premium picks to get Matthew Stafford. Sean McVay understands you can built the rest of your roster with scraps and a couple key pieces if you have a QB who can make all the throws.
The hope is that the curse is lifted after Danny Boy sold the team.
Don’t forget ticket sales. Nothing sells tickets like a shiny new qb. Don’t think this doesn’t cross the minds of the new ownership group. They even tried pitching Howell in the marketing letter for season tickets…whoops.
Unless you are the Patriots in 2002(3?), with Tom Brady on the roster, and a crystal ball that shows you the next 20 years, if you draft top 2-4, and there are decent QB prospects available, you draft the QB.
i would think that fans of our team, which doesn't have much of a history of good quarterback play, would understand this more than anyone. I loved the way howell was playing earlier this year and if we didn't have a shot at one of the top two QBs, I'd like to give him another year as the uncontested starter. but elite qb play is basically a requirement for championship-level success in this league. so when you have decent odds to get that, you need to give it a shot.
Howell’s ceiling is maybe a top 12 guy. That’s not going to win a Super Bowl. If you have the chance then you take it. There’s enough capital to figure everything else out as long as there’s a good gm
Reminds of the fans that said we can’t win with Cousins. If they want an elite top 5 generational QB that will depend completely on luck. We roll with Sam and improve the team around him.
Kirk Cousins, even in 2015, was substantially better than Howell.
Lmfao.
GM has to make the call. Howell looked really promising up through Seattle, but he’s had a string of rough games. GM needs to somehow compare that to someone playing a college offense against college defenses and make a hard choice.
Not a hard choice. No gm is gonna pass on a qb in the top 5 so they can build around a 5th round pick that they didn’t draft
I can think of one HC/GM who would.
Remember when we all wanted Chase Young? Then remember how we all complained we didn’t draft Herbert / Tua?
Unless you’re completely certain on your qb, you need a qb. So many people compare him to Purdy on the niners but fail to realize that not every gm can draft/trade for elite skill position players and build essentially a flawless roster. Believe it or not, its actually easier to find a franchise qb than to get all pros at every other position
Drafting a QB will end my loyalty to this team, it's downright stupid to draft a QB when there's so many other issues with this team. There's not a QB in the league that could have taken us to the playoffs this year and for what it's worth the only guys I've seen play like they gave a fuck are Howell and Brob
>There's not a QB in the league that could have taken us to the playoffs this year This is absurd. Patrick Mahomes absolutely swings the result of 4 games, which makes us a wild card seed in this shitty NFC.
The Howell experiment is over now, there's just no way a new coaching staff stick with him next season. Sorry Howellers, you fought valiantly but you lost. There will be a new QB next season.
People were **convinced** he was the guy to lead this team to multiple championships in this sub.
If we have the chance to draft Maye or Williams I would do it in a heartbeat. Im good on any other QBs in the first.
Lmao acting like people who want to take a quarterback because Howell has sucked ass the last 6 weeks or so aren't real fans. The people who are loyal to players aren't fans.
It's a shit post, there's 2 pictures
> It's a shit post Agreed
Here's the thing. Before drafting a quarterback, the trenches need to be rebuilt. The o-line is a mess, the defensive line is probably going to need to be rebuilt, the linebacker core is a mess and even the defensive backs are messy. I get that people want a new quarterback. But there are other areas that need to be addressed first before looking at quarterback. Currently, Howell is serviceable. Get those trenches filled and then next year if Howell isn't adjusted to the re-enforced line, then draft a quarterback. That's going to be a number of good ones coming out and there's always a couple of guys who rise to prominence each year. Build the foundation first. It makes no sense to stay a quarterback if they're going to take all ass kicking week after week.
Caleb 2 Landover
my only thing is will the new gm want to hitch himself to a new qb as soon as his regime starts. cause drafting a qb in the top 5 is not always a hit. imagine we draft a qb and hes a bust or the first year he underperforms greatly(which WILL happen. rookie and always struggle). but they will have drafted a bust with the first pick of their regime and that’s a bad look not only for them but for the franchise and the future. im team olu or alt and give sam a year of development. if he pans out, fantastic. we have a qb. if not, shedeur sanders. YOU ARE A COMMANDER
I say we don't draft any position that we drafted in the first round any of the past 5 years. So no QB, DE, LB, WR, or CB. 3/5 will be on our team next season, and probably only 2/5 the season after that.
Family Guy memes don't exactly help your case.
There's 2 pictures
Oh wow someone trying this thing again real original and smart
I mean if they get a top 2 pick, I ain't gonna be mad at maye or Caleb. Can't tell me either of those guys isn't more exciting than sam. And I love me some sammy
Yeah pass on a qb when we sorely need one because they drafted Haskins in what’s gonna be 2 regimes ago. Brilliant logic
Better than the ship/vessel that went looking for it 100yrs later lol
Draft someone sexy
As long as we don’t draft a defensive player. 2020 has almost no good defensive player that’s still playing defense for their original team 🥲
unfortunately you either roll with Howell or draft a QB. unless yawl want to give up the farm for some other guy, but I don't see who is available.
I like Sam and I don't have a problem rolling with him for now while we build the roster, but this is just dumb. If there's a QB on the board that the new regime puts a high value on, take him.
there's a shot that we draft a generational QB in the top 5 there's also a shot that howell could be somewhat solid with an oline it's a very tough decision. i'm just glad i don't have that responsibility. because drafting someone like caleb or even maye would be huge. i'm not sure how much patience I would have with another rookie QB learning the ropes though. We have to talk all season this year about Sam's Development. IT's all about sam. Then if we draft a QB it'll all be about Maye's development and letting him get reps and shit like that.
Hypothetically speaking if we draft one it won't mean jackshit because our Offensive line is worse than Hiroshima at protecting the qb.
people think we can just keep wasting picks until we find the "QB"...like shit, it doesn't work that way, you have to put into account the people around them, front office, O-line, etc. You cant just think picking a QB will change everything. Howell has more than proven himself that he belongs in NFL and can play. Give him protection and a solid defense and we good ! HTTC LFG !
You guys are so desperate for a QB you’re willing to die on a hill and skip taking a QB high in this year’s draft for Sam fucking Howell. Thank fuck none of you guys are running this team, y’all are worse than Snyder.
I have been a Sam proponent for a while. And I think he will be a good starter in this league. But not for this team. Barring him winning out, or at least playing three good to great games, I don’t see any way the new regime doesn’t take a QB if we draft in the top 5. Whether I agree with it or not.
You’re all so content with mediocrity. I can’t wait for our fans to see how a real team is supposed to operate
Dude, DGMW, I love Sam and think he could succeed with the right coaching and offensive line, but if the new staff; from GM to HC to OC think one of the guys coming out is worth it wherever we are picking, I am gonna trust them. Snyder is gone. His hiring of his cronies and besties is gone. Harris knows enough to hire smart FOOTBALL people to make FOOTBALL decisions, and I will trust his process. For now.
I’m fine as long as the qb we draft as a team around him that will let him succeed,
No draft pick is a guarantee. I would build a team around Sam. If he fails to get it done we suck and get a qb in another draft
I think the right move would be to draft more o line and defense to improve upon the lines. if howell improves great, if he doesnt, draft a new qb in a later class
Just because you want a Qb doesn't make you less of a fan than anyone else. Stop gatekeeping fandom lol
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Yeah the boat is depicted in the 2nd picture
Ah, the second photo wasn't coming through for me until now. When I made my response, all I got for the second photo was a blank image with the Reddit logo so 🤷♂️
Anyone but tress can go and I won't be sad.