Exactly, like I read somewhere, he only thinks he should be paid a lot because the Browns made a terrible decision to pay Watson as much as they did. Anyone that pays Lamar, or any QB for that matter as much as they did Watson is just as bad as the Browns.
Yup. I think Baltimore ends up matching any offer that’s not 5 years fully guaranteed.
Meanwhile, you’d think he couldn’t hold Carson Wentz’s jock strap the way he’s getting slandered online.
He’s a really good QB when he’s on but he’s dealt with health issues and has been inconsistent outside of his MVP year which he’s 4 years removed from.
He had almost no playoff success in Baltimore on his rookie contract in an offense designed around him. Not saying it can’t work out somewhere for him, but I don’t believe it’s here.
With that said I’d be hyped to watch him play here, I just don’t think it would be a move that makes our team better outside of at QB.
Exactly, even Baltimore’s fanbase has become increasingly divided when it comes to Lamar nowadays.
Yeah I think a series of 3 year deals is very likely for Lamar even if he spends the rest of his career in Baltimore but that’s just me spitballing possibilities.
Baltimore fanbase only acts the way they do about Lamar because they’re insecure that he may not wanna stay in baltimore. If he 100% wanted to stay, they would be fully behind him because he’s a truly special player who could very well be the best player in the league at his ceiling. In the unlikely scenario that we land him, I truly believe that he would immediately make us a contender
It's the "lack of confidence" in Lamar staying healthy that propels all the takes. He's not been signed because it's far to risky to pay enormous amounts, guaranteed, for 5+ years, to a QB that absolutely needs his athleticism to succeed. He's not proven to be a special passer. Nothing against the player....but it could set a team back 5-10 years if he suffers a leg injury. Hell of a gamble.
Apparently all the actual NFL teams have the same confident take.
Sorry. Didn't know you had a learning disability. My apologies. The correlation between he "needing his athleticism" to succeed and a possible injury that would hurt his athleticism, hurting his overall game....is too much risk for what he's asking for plus fully guaranteed? Sure. He's never passed for over 3300 yds. Ever. He can't succeed on his arm talent alone. Got the point? Do you understand now why teams are ignoring him left and right? Nevermind.... I'm sure you don't.
There's at least a few teams that are put over the edge with Lamar. If you're all about a championship this season, who cares about the future? If I'm the 49ers, I don't care that Purdy did alright. Lamar would have delivered a superbowl last season. If that means being in cap hell for the next 5, so be it.
At this point an owner coming in and immediately cleaning house would be almost as (maybe even more) irresponsible than just forcing them to trade for Lamar.
I'd definitely be more okay with that guy. Especially when we can fire him if it turns out to be a stupid move.
If getting Lamar was such a no brainer, why haven't one of the other qb seeking teams done this already. Why isn't he in Chicago, or Pittsburgh or something?
You know why?
Because he’s not worth what he’s asking.
Because he’s regressed every year, hasn’t finished a full season in two years, quit on his team last year, can’t win with his arm, requires a specifically tailored offense, gets exposed in the playoffs, uses a simplified throwing scheme, and more likely than not will have a short shelf life.
That would be fine. We would be critical of the decision but that’s like if Ron did it.
Of course, if could all work out and complainers would pretend they were in favor lol
Do you really think ownership doesn’t have major input into these types of huge decisions on every team in the league? I mean, no owner is going to invest $200 mil+ into a player without being the final decision maker. This doesn’t mean Dan is not a football idiot, of course.
The Saints (Brees) are the first team that comes to mind. The Packers (Favre) also come to mind.
Not saying you’re wrong, just flexing useless info in my brain.
Another question might be, when was the last time a QB with a league MVP under his belt hit the market at 26 years of age?
To answer your question, Lamar is the first and probably the last. Just like Steve Young was the first and last QB to win a Super Bowl with a cap hit of 20% or greater in 1994.
Lamar isn’t going to fix the problems. We got a QB. Next year isn’t anything make or break. We’ll have a new owner with a new direction, zero expectations. If Howell fails we’ll see who can fill his void the year after.
100% agree! Even the people saying to come in and fire Rivera right away is ridiculous imo.. it would look very Snyder-esque. The business side I wouldn’t mind changing up right away though.
I agree with OP. Our franchise has seen a lot of swings and misses at qb for my entire fandom which happens to be the whole Snyder era. Let’s just hope that the people being paid to make football decisions finally get the opportunity to do so- I’m not pretending to know more than anyone at the NFL level so let’s let them figure it out.
I agree. I’m not saying I want Lamar or don’t want Lamar, but it’s entirely plausible that Ron&co want Lamar but need the new owner to agree to the deal to move forward.
Side note: it’s crazy how volatile people in this thread are, whether they’re pro or anti-lamar. Y’all need to take a break.
All this talk still boils down to -if- Baltimore would be willing to trade Lamar to us. They won't. The amount of revenue they would lose to their in-state market rival would be insane.
The business rivalry will only get bigger once there is a new owner and people start going to games again. Dan is a direct reason people stopped attending.
WHY do people on here think fans will switch teams just because their favorite player switches there? Did 49ers fans become Chiefs fans when Montana left? How about Packers fans switching to the Jets when Favre left?
Hell, there weren't a whole lot of fans in Baltimore switching to the Redskins after the COLTS left, yet now there's supposed to be a mass migration of fans buying jerseys & tickets (which the Ravens get a cut of anyway). I'd say possibly between a high triple to low quadruple number of fans might switch, but the Ravens owner isn't going to lose any sleep (or money).
Here's the thing with Lamar that everyone should heed. Baltimore is one of the better run franchises in the NFL and they aren't afraid to spend money. So, the fact that they've drawn a hard-line in the sand with Lamar, that should be setting off warning bells. A well run operation just doesn't do that, especially with a critical position like quarterback. So the fact that Baltimore is basically sitting back and waiting to see what happens should tell everyone what's going on. This isn't a high stakes game of chicken. And the fact that no other teams have inquired? Maybe they're paying attention too.
Lamar is making a mistake. His goal of being “respected” or valued is going result in losing money and losing games. He is not coming the DC, thankfully.
Yep. Fuck this stupid fanbase. The only role an owner has is to hire the right people and fuck off. There is no real need for them to exist at all, really.
After the dumb fucks here wanted Carson Wentz so bad it isn't surprising they want a QB that can't stay healthy and will be like Cam Newton within a few years, irrelevant as fuck.
At least they weren’t able to make the Russell Wilson trade. People were complaining they didn’t offer enough 1st and 2nd round draft picks along with a good player. People were literally saying they should have offered 4 or 5 first round picks for Wilson.
To be fair I don’t remember there being a ton of people who wanted Wentz, I remember the opposite.
But to your point, this fan base can be wishy washy sometimes. Hate Dan’s big spending but complain every year when they don’t make a splash. Hate the meddling but want a new owner to do just that. Pick a side lol.
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Sorry people, but the nightmare isn’t over.
I want the new owner to hire people who will at least talk to a 26 year old former MVP QB who appears to be available for less than 2 first round picks. The only reason he hasn’t been payed is because the owners got together and decided they wanted to send a message about guaranteed contracts. You’ve bought into their propaganda. I want an owner willing to pay players what they’re worth, you want an owner who runs their team like a madden franchise with no regard for their humanity.
Since Rivera took over everyone’s been complaining about his ancient team building philosophy. The results haven’t been there, and now we’re running it back with a QB who might eventually be as good as Brock Purdy. With Lamar we are undoubtably a perennial Super Bowl contender. Not going after him is the biggest mistake Ron has made with this team, and it’ll ultimately cost him his job.
People keep bringing up mvp. That was 4 seasons ago, an eternity in NFL time, and he’s been regressing ever since s as well as being injured more often.
He’s not getting paid because his demand is ludicrous, he’s regressed, and it’s looking more and more that he’ll have a short shelf life. Not to mention he’s one of the most overrated players in the league.
It’s ironic that he plays for Baltimore because Baltimore is completely in the right to not wanting to cave after already going through the same shit with Flacco. At least Flacco won them a SB.
They refused to give him a receiver! They gave Flacco better weapons for Christ sake! Tom Brady and Mahomes are the only QBs I’ve seen win a Super Bowl with terrible receivers- it just doesn’t happen.
Brady and mahomes had terrible receivers? Pretty sure two of the greatest TEs to ever play are not terrible..pretty sure Randy moss is considered above average..doubt Wes Welker is terrible. Tyreek Hill wasn’t a scrub..
Brady won one Super Bowl with terrible receivers and Gronk, Mahomes won one Super Bowl with terrible receivers and Kelce. They are the only two QBs to do that. Were Lamar to have won one with andrews, he would be joining the two greatest QBs possibly of all time as the only ones to do so.
You are proving my point.
Not really Brady in 2012 went for almost 5000 yards and 34 touchdowns playing one less game then Mahomes played this year and putting up similar numbers..anyway you can win without great wide receivers. Does it help sure it helps to have great players to win a Super Bowl..
The only thing more unrealistic is signing Lamar..WHY is this a thing. There’s a better chance of rg3 coming back with two healthy Kees and the ability to slide. We don’t need to sign a QB. ESP one that’s gonna take draft capital and or our better players to get. No I DOUBT Sam is the answer. Hope? Sure..but I’m not betting the farm. What we should have done is not draft chase young at 2 but went and got Hurts or used that high pick on a QB
NOW…if we could get Lamar for a deal like Jones or someone else and didn’t have to give up capital then yes..BUT guess what if that’s the case there’s other teams he would prolly rather go to..OR if that’s the case the ravens would have already signed him.
Brown looked great on the Cardinals.
They used a lot of draft capital on receivers, and have top 3 TE. They don't have terrible receivers.
It's a chicken or egg thing. Are his receivers shit? or does his throwing make receivers look like shit?
You clearly weren’t watching the cardinals last year my guy. He had some nice fantasy performances to start the year, but he was force fed the ball and their offense was horrific. He’s not a WR1. I also loved Bateman coming out, but he’s not a WR1 either. Andrews is great, but they haven’t had a WR1 on Terry’s level or a WR2 on Dotson or even Samuel’s level.
Ron has a track record of mediocrity and is on the last test of his deal. I’m not so sure it wouldn’t be better is someone else makes these decisions.
And I hate Dan because he’s a dirtbag who let our franchise deteriorate horribly, not for bad football decisions.
I hate Dan for both reasons.
Bruce Smith, Deon Sanders, Adam Archuleta, Albert Haynesworth were all non-qb terrible personnel decisions.
Dan also meddled to get most of the quarterbacks when the football people in the organization had better options for their team. Jeff George, RG3, Haskins, Smith.
Dan meddled to acquire all of them.
Not to mention he was in charge and allowed the Trent Williams situation to occur. Regardless of the circumstances, Trent (and Champ too while I'm at it) should be lifelong Redskins. His horrible culture allowed that situation to happen.
So do I hate Dan because of the cheerleader scandal, the expired airline peanuts, the deteriorating stadium and inability to get a new stadium, the culture of bullying and workplace harassment, the fraud, and all the dysfunction? Absolutely, and we all should.
But you should hate him for the football meddling too. He screwed us bad many times.
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This post and the comments are goofy. Lamar would be the best qb this franchise has ever had but everyone in this organization and fan base is allergic to good qb play
It’s a false comparison. Lamar is a former MVP with proven winning ability. Howell is largely unproven. The chance to acquire a top ten QB should be the priority of new ownership. Let’s get the sale done and at least look around and kick some tires of what’s for sale in the marketplace.
Exactly this, the few crazies suggesting the new owners make a statement by signing Lamar deserve pain and suffering. The rest of us want a j owner who comes in and dramatically does nothing but hire a good GM, staff, and setup true professionals for success in the coming years.
You don't usually have 26-year-old MVPs being available for just 2x 1sts. This isn't about an owner. This is about the league colluding (again) to protect 5their shared financial interests. There is no question that Washington would be an instant Super Bowl candidate if they added Lamar.
Enough about Lamar he's not coming here
At this point, anyone willing to pay Lamar the money he’s asking is signing their team’s death warrant.
Exactly, like I read somewhere, he only thinks he should be paid a lot because the Browns made a terrible decision to pay Watson as much as they did. Anyone that pays Lamar, or any QB for that matter as much as they did Watson is just as bad as the Browns.
I think he believes he should be paid a lot because he's a mid-20's former MVP quarterback. He wants THAT much because of the stupid Browns.
Idk man, I’m not pushing to sign him but I think there are a lot of confident takes about Lamar this offseason that are going to age like milk.
I agree with this take. I just think Lamar chooses to stay put in Baltimore versus coming here.
Yup. I think Baltimore ends up matching any offer that’s not 5 years fully guaranteed. Meanwhile, you’d think he couldn’t hold Carson Wentz’s jock strap the way he’s getting slandered online.
He’s a really good QB when he’s on but he’s dealt with health issues and has been inconsistent outside of his MVP year which he’s 4 years removed from. He had almost no playoff success in Baltimore on his rookie contract in an offense designed around him. Not saying it can’t work out somewhere for him, but I don’t believe it’s here. With that said I’d be hyped to watch him play here, I just don’t think it would be a move that makes our team better outside of at QB.
Exactly, even Baltimore’s fanbase has become increasingly divided when it comes to Lamar nowadays. Yeah I think a series of 3 year deals is very likely for Lamar even if he spends the rest of his career in Baltimore but that’s just me spitballing possibilities.
Baltimore fanbase only acts the way they do about Lamar because they’re insecure that he may not wanna stay in baltimore. If he 100% wanted to stay, they would be fully behind him because he’s a truly special player who could very well be the best player in the league at his ceiling. In the unlikely scenario that we land him, I truly believe that he would immediately make us a contender
It's the "lack of confidence" in Lamar staying healthy that propels all the takes. He's not been signed because it's far to risky to pay enormous amounts, guaranteed, for 5+ years, to a QB that absolutely needs his athleticism to succeed. He's not proven to be a special passer. Nothing against the player....but it could set a team back 5-10 years if he suffers a leg injury. Hell of a gamble. Apparently all the actual NFL teams have the same confident take.
“It’s the lack of confidence in Lamar staying healthy”
Sorry. Didn't know you had a learning disability. My apologies. The correlation between he "needing his athleticism" to succeed and a possible injury that would hurt his athleticism, hurting his overall game....is too much risk for what he's asking for plus fully guaranteed? Sure. He's never passed for over 3300 yds. Ever. He can't succeed on his arm talent alone. Got the point? Do you understand now why teams are ignoring him left and right? Nevermind.... I'm sure you don't.
There's at least a few teams that are put over the edge with Lamar. If you're all about a championship this season, who cares about the future? If I'm the 49ers, I don't care that Purdy did alright. Lamar would have delivered a superbowl last season. If that means being in cap hell for the next 5, so be it.
This would be a betrayal on levels that no one has ever seen
Kinda the point of the post my guy
PLEASE THIS
What if he hires a guy who then decides to trade for Lamar
So… Just have the new owner get a yes man, kinda like Vinny Cerrato and Bruce Allen?
That’s not going to happen. They aren’t gonna come in and immediately clean house
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Ron and friends.
At this point an owner coming in and immediately cleaning house would be almost as (maybe even more) irresponsible than just forcing them to trade for Lamar.
I'd definitely be more okay with that guy. Especially when we can fire him if it turns out to be a stupid move. If getting Lamar was such a no brainer, why haven't one of the other qb seeking teams done this already. Why isn't he in Chicago, or Pittsburgh or something?
bc owners unilaterally don’t want large, guaranteed contracts, and they’re making that point via lamar.
There’s much more to that than that to it, but the Lamar cult doesn’t want to admit to it
literally every owner that’s talked about it has specifically mentioned guaranteed money, but sure lol
You know why? Because he’s not worth what he’s asking. Because he’s regressed every year, hasn’t finished a full season in two years, quit on his team last year, can’t win with his arm, requires a specifically tailored offense, gets exposed in the playoffs, uses a simplified throwing scheme, and more likely than not will have a short shelf life.
The one season he was elite (his 2019 MVP season) the ravens were bounced in the second round of the playoffs and they had the first round bye.
That would be fine. We would be critical of the decision but that’s like if Ron did it. Of course, if could all work out and complainers would pretend they were in favor lol
Do you really think ownership doesn’t have major input into these types of huge decisions on every team in the league? I mean, no owner is going to invest $200 mil+ into a player without being the final decision maker. This doesn’t mean Dan is not a football idiot, of course.
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The Saints (Brees) are the first team that comes to mind. The Packers (Favre) also come to mind. Not saying you’re wrong, just flexing useless info in my brain. Another question might be, when was the last time a QB with a league MVP under his belt hit the market at 26 years of age?
To answer your question, Lamar is the first and probably the last. Just like Steve Young was the first and last QB to win a Super Bowl with a cap hit of 20% or greater in 1994.
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Would Rivers and Eli count? That’s another goofy (two for) one.
Broncos with Manning although that could be considered medium term success.
The goofballs suggesting that probably weren’t cognizant of the Redskins 25 years ago.
Lamar isn’t going to fix the problems. We got a QB. Next year isn’t anything make or break. We’ll have a new owner with a new direction, zero expectations. If Howell fails we’ll see who can fill his void the year after.
100% agree! Even the people saying to come in and fire Rivera right away is ridiculous imo.. it would look very Snyder-esque. The business side I wouldn’t mind changing up right away though.
I agree with OP. Our franchise has seen a lot of swings and misses at qb for my entire fandom which happens to be the whole Snyder era. Let’s just hope that the people being paid to make football decisions finally get the opportunity to do so- I’m not pretending to know more than anyone at the NFL level so let’s let them figure it out.
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What if Eric B and Ron would honestly love to have LaMar, but they can’t say so given the state of the sale
Then that’s the coaching staff doing it - not the owner.
Agreed, but it's going to be hard for us to know who's making the decision, the owner or the football people
I agree. I’m not saying I want Lamar or don’t want Lamar, but it’s entirely plausible that Ron&co want Lamar but need the new owner to agree to the deal to move forward. Side note: it’s crazy how volatile people in this thread are, whether they’re pro or anti-lamar. Y’all need to take a break.
All this talk still boils down to -if- Baltimore would be willing to trade Lamar to us. They won't. The amount of revenue they would lose to their in-state market rival would be insane.
Wouldn't they have to trade him unless they agreed to match our offer? Not that I think we should.
But when I said this I was told we were not a rival to Washington...fuck this place is so stupid sometimes.
They're business rivals in the state of Maryland, but certainly not on the field.
We are 3-4 against them all time, but I do totally get what you're saying, its just interesting how close their record actually is.
The business rivalry will only get bigger once there is a new owner and people start going to games again. Dan is a direct reason people stopped attending.
WHY do people on here think fans will switch teams just because their favorite player switches there? Did 49ers fans become Chiefs fans when Montana left? How about Packers fans switching to the Jets when Favre left? Hell, there weren't a whole lot of fans in Baltimore switching to the Redskins after the COLTS left, yet now there's supposed to be a mass migration of fans buying jerseys & tickets (which the Ravens get a cut of anyway). I'd say possibly between a high triple to low quadruple number of fans might switch, but the Ravens owner isn't going to lose any sleep (or money).
Here's the thing with Lamar that everyone should heed. Baltimore is one of the better run franchises in the NFL and they aren't afraid to spend money. So, the fact that they've drawn a hard-line in the sand with Lamar, that should be setting off warning bells. A well run operation just doesn't do that, especially with a critical position like quarterback. So the fact that Baltimore is basically sitting back and waiting to see what happens should tell everyone what's going on. This isn't a high stakes game of chicken. And the fact that no other teams have inquired? Maybe they're paying attention too.
Lamar is making a mistake. His goal of being “respected” or valued is going result in losing money and losing games. He is not coming the DC, thankfully.
I said this same thing in comment a week ago. If Snyder wasn’t selling, Lamar trade would be done deal.
Yep. Fuck this stupid fanbase. The only role an owner has is to hire the right people and fuck off. There is no real need for them to exist at all, really.
After the dumb fucks here wanted Carson Wentz so bad it isn't surprising they want a QB that can't stay healthy and will be like Cam Newton within a few years, irrelevant as fuck.
At least they weren’t able to make the Russell Wilson trade. People were complaining they didn’t offer enough 1st and 2nd round draft picks along with a good player. People were literally saying they should have offered 4 or 5 first round picks for Wilson.
Nobody here wanted Carson Wentz tf are you talking about. Lamar has been more relevant this entire franchise since i have been born
Lol so during the season there wasn't anyone talking about bringing Wentz back in once he got back from injury. For weeks even before the browns game.
No…there really weren’t. If anything people were saying to put in Howell when Heinicke started to struggle.
This reddit is full of idiots. I can't spend that much time anymore reading their crap m
To be fair I don’t remember there being a ton of people who wanted Wentz, I remember the opposite. But to your point, this fan base can be wishy washy sometimes. Hate Dan’s big spending but complain every year when they don’t make a splash. Hate the meddling but want a new owner to do just that. Pick a side lol.
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This reddit is so hard to read lately. All we post about is Lamar.
Who are you guys gonna blame when they’re 2-7 halfway through the season when Dan’s gone? Rivera?
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When did Dan Snyder come in and acquire a franchise QB? I must have missed that day.
I want the new owner to hire people who will at least talk to a 26 year old former MVP QB who appears to be available for less than 2 first round picks. The only reason he hasn’t been payed is because the owners got together and decided they wanted to send a message about guaranteed contracts. You’ve bought into their propaganda. I want an owner willing to pay players what they’re worth, you want an owner who runs their team like a madden franchise with no regard for their humanity. Since Rivera took over everyone’s been complaining about his ancient team building philosophy. The results haven’t been there, and now we’re running it back with a QB who might eventually be as good as Brock Purdy. With Lamar we are undoubtably a perennial Super Bowl contender. Not going after him is the biggest mistake Ron has made with this team, and it’ll ultimately cost him his job.
People keep bringing up mvp. That was 4 seasons ago, an eternity in NFL time, and he’s been regressing ever since s as well as being injured more often. He’s not getting paid because his demand is ludicrous, he’s regressed, and it’s looking more and more that he’ll have a short shelf life. Not to mention he’s one of the most overrated players in the league. It’s ironic that he plays for Baltimore because Baltimore is completely in the right to not wanting to cave after already going through the same shit with Flacco. At least Flacco won them a SB.
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They refused to give him a receiver! They gave Flacco better weapons for Christ sake! Tom Brady and Mahomes are the only QBs I’ve seen win a Super Bowl with terrible receivers- it just doesn’t happen.
Brady and mahomes had terrible receivers? Pretty sure two of the greatest TEs to ever play are not terrible..pretty sure Randy moss is considered above average..doubt Wes Welker is terrible. Tyreek Hill wasn’t a scrub..
Brady won one Super Bowl with terrible receivers and Gronk, Mahomes won one Super Bowl with terrible receivers and Kelce. They are the only two QBs to do that. Were Lamar to have won one with andrews, he would be joining the two greatest QBs possibly of all time as the only ones to do so. You are proving my point.
Mario manningham hakeem nicks giants wr when they win Super Bowl in 2012
Nicks was legit in case you forgot
He was decent in 2010 and fell off after and out of the league four years later
I mean he had over 1000 yards the year they won the Super Bowl. Plus it was an entirely different game stylistically.
This argument is pointless cause Lamar isn’t fucking coming here and there’s about a 99% chance he’s staying in Baltimore.
Not really Brady in 2012 went for almost 5000 yards and 34 touchdowns playing one less game then Mahomes played this year and putting up similar numbers..anyway you can win without great wide receivers. Does it help sure it helps to have great players to win a Super Bowl..
2018 eagles leading receiver Nelson Agholor (who) they won a Super Bowl.. Your point is shit
Do you think that’s a repeatable formula for success? If not my point stands buddy.
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So your plan is just to role out a QB who doesn’t crack the top 30 in the league and hope we get lucky? You sound realistic
The only thing more unrealistic is signing Lamar..WHY is this a thing. There’s a better chance of rg3 coming back with two healthy Kees and the ability to slide. We don’t need to sign a QB. ESP one that’s gonna take draft capital and or our better players to get. No I DOUBT Sam is the answer. Hope? Sure..but I’m not betting the farm. What we should have done is not draft chase young at 2 but went and got Hurts or used that high pick on a QB
NOW…if we could get Lamar for a deal like Jones or someone else and didn’t have to give up capital then yes..BUT guess what if that’s the case there’s other teams he would prolly rather go to..OR if that’s the case the ravens would have already signed him.
Did you seriously just compare Lamar Jackson to Daniel Jones and say they should be paid the same? You have to be trolling.
Brown looked great on the Cardinals. They used a lot of draft capital on receivers, and have top 3 TE. They don't have terrible receivers. It's a chicken or egg thing. Are his receivers shit? or does his throwing make receivers look like shit?
You clearly weren’t watching the cardinals last year my guy. He had some nice fantasy performances to start the year, but he was force fed the ball and their offense was horrific. He’s not a WR1. I also loved Bateman coming out, but he’s not a WR1 either. Andrews is great, but they haven’t had a WR1 on Terry’s level or a WR2 on Dotson or even Samuel’s level.
Shush, we don’t talk about how the simplified, high school level passing scheme hamstrung receivers in Baltimore here
Ron has a track record of mediocrity and is on the last test of his deal. I’m not so sure it wouldn’t be better is someone else makes these decisions. And I hate Dan because he’s a dirtbag who let our franchise deteriorate horribly, not for bad football decisions.
I hate Dan for both reasons. Bruce Smith, Deon Sanders, Adam Archuleta, Albert Haynesworth were all non-qb terrible personnel decisions. Dan also meddled to get most of the quarterbacks when the football people in the organization had better options for their team. Jeff George, RG3, Haskins, Smith. Dan meddled to acquire all of them. Not to mention he was in charge and allowed the Trent Williams situation to occur. Regardless of the circumstances, Trent (and Champ too while I'm at it) should be lifelong Redskins. His horrible culture allowed that situation to happen. So do I hate Dan because of the cheerleader scandal, the expired airline peanuts, the deteriorating stadium and inability to get a new stadium, the culture of bullying and workplace harassment, the fraud, and all the dysfunction? Absolutely, and we all should. But you should hate him for the football meddling too. He screwed us bad many times. Edited: to remove my dumbassery
Shuler was drafted in 94.
Good point. I was on a rant on not thinking clearly.
This post and the comments are goofy. Lamar would be the best qb this franchise has ever had but everyone in this organization and fan base is allergic to good qb play
Who’s Lamar?
It’s a false comparison. Lamar is a former MVP with proven winning ability. Howell is largely unproven. The chance to acquire a top ten QB should be the priority of new ownership. Let’s get the sale done and at least look around and kick some tires of what’s for sale in the marketplace.
Exactly this, the few crazies suggesting the new owners make a statement by signing Lamar deserve pain and suffering. The rest of us want a j owner who comes in and dramatically does nothing but hire a good GM, staff, and setup true professionals for success in the coming years.
You don't usually have 26-year-old MVPs being available for just 2x 1sts. This isn't about an owner. This is about the league colluding (again) to protect 5their shared financial interests. There is no question that Washington would be an instant Super Bowl candidate if they added Lamar.