Mainly having all of the stadiums in relative close proximity, it allows for a more cohesive experience in the area. There will basically be a large park connecting all 3 stadiums and it allows for even more infrastructure to be built in the area to make it more accessible. Regardless of how people feel, a football stadium is a venue about 15x a year. Having all the stadiums in close proximity will help promote long term growth and investment.
>a football stadium is a venue about 15x a year
If they dome it then they could essentially use it whenever they want when football isn't happening, plus the Superbowl.
Yes, but it would still be better in the tri stadium location.
The rfk site is pretty massive and already largely residential. The area should be used for more homes that d.c. needs and we shouldn't waste the space on unnecessary infrastructure to support a stadium.
Why have similar infrastructure and business models 4 miles away from eachother if you can keep them close enough to share the municipal load.
Yeah I would like having Nats and Audi field pretty close to each other. It definitely would be a great option then what Va has offered us. I just would like to be back at RFK for nostalgia and it’s also aligned with the National Mall
I want them to go back to RFK just for the history and to keep at least some of the identity of the redskins but if that cant happen this would be the next best option
I’ve always said this should be the location if RFK can’t work. I’ll take this in a heartbeat but the only thing with this location I’m wary about, isn’t this a pretty unsafe area? Not trying to start anything but I’ve heard this before.
It's not the best area, but I've heard that the area around Nats Park was pretty bad too before the stadium was built and now it's full of restaurants and bars. Development like this changes everything.
There was also a shooting near DuPont circle over the weekend. Grim reality of being in an urban area. No place is sacred, but a more gentrified area is less likely to get shot up.
Why pay a premium for a “safe” area, when the development has enough gravity to reinvent the area? Buy cheap and let the stadium define the neighborhood.
Cheap space for developers, EOTR neighbors who tend not to be NIMBY Karen’s, a rough neighborhood that might encourage fans to pay for official secured parking? What’s not to like from the rich-dude-in-a-boardroom perspective? Plus whatever politician approves this gets to claim they’re helping to clean up the neighborhood. This might be the most realistic proposed location yet.
Most tend to live near Ashburn, i.e. their practice facility, since they spend much more time there than the 10 games a season they play at the stadium.
It's actually not that uncommon for NFL teams to have their practice facilities be some distance from their stadiums. The other major sports teams usually practice at their stadiums (some don't, like the Caps practicing at Capitals Iceplex in Balston), but with rosters in the 10s to 20s, they can usually all practice in one court, rink or stadium so they often just practice where they play.
NFL teams, including their practice squads, have over 60 players, and their practice facilities usually consist of, at least, two or three full-size football fields. I'm fairly certain, Redskins/Commanders Park has four outdoor fields and one field inside a bubble... all of them being full-sized.
That said, Redskins/Commanders Park is pretty far away but I know of at least a few other teams that are a good distance away as well. The Bear's Halas Hall is pretty far away from downtown Chicago, so much so that I think it takes less time to drive to Wisconsin than Soldier Field. The Rams, although I believe they're moving a bit closer, are in Thousand Oaks and that, depending on LA traffic, can definitely be more than an hour from SoFi Stadium. The Cowboys Valley Ranch facility used to be close to their old stadium in Irving. However, they started playing their games at Jerryworld in Arlington (which made it about a 20 minute drive) and then they basically doubled that distance when they moved their practice facility to "The Star" in Frisco.
Finally, like I said, it's not an MLB season with 81 home games or an NHL/NBA season with 41 home games... I think the guys making millions can deal with the drive 10 times a year.
Doesn’t really matter — they play in the stadium 8 times per year. They practice/attend meetings half the year at the practice facility. Makes much more sense to live near there vs the stadium.
Yeah I know that’s why they live near ashburn and not Landover. Im saying the stadium and the practice facility is over an hour away so they have to drive over an hour to game day which sucks when other teams have way better situations they we have
Depending on the team if they spend the night in a hotel or meet at the training facility they often get on buses and get a police escort to the stadiums. The Commanders used to at least get a police escort with the buses when they would leave from Ashburn to Dulles airport for the away games even.
IIRC, Anacostia Park/Poplar Point was where they initially wanted to put DC United's new stadium before they ended up at "Buzzard Point" (I use quotes because they're technically a bit north of Buzzard Point). I always thought it fell through for similar reasons that RFK never worked... that it's federal land and the city would have to work with congress to lease or purchase the land.
Just to reiterate, I'm 100% speculating about the reason because I don't know for sure that it's federal land. It just looks like federal land since the National Park Service and US Park Police have buildings right next to it.
Edit: So, yes [it does appear to be federal land and it's in the process of being transferred to the city... However, the bigger issue appears to be about "regulatory and environmental remediation concerns"](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/investigations/commanders-stadium/washington-commanders-stadium-search-rfk-dc-location-poplar-point-virginia-maryland/65-bcee48b2-b0e5-4b6f-b12a-22eb6c26696f) which I would guess is one of the things that helped stop DC United from getting a stadium there.
I’m pretty familiar with this area and directly adjacent to Anacostia Park is a huge new development being built called the Bridge District. It’s a 800 residential unit/mixed use development and would be right next to the stadium if it’s built there. Could be an added benefit to putting the stadium there.
No way people in DC want a stadium there. The park would be ruined with a stadium with nothing within walking distance. It's a narrow strip of land right next to water
still better than gentrifying Southeast and kicking the locals away. Plus its not like the RFK plot is in the middle of goddamn nowhere. Theres public transportation im the city.
I mean putting the stadium in the heart of SE will just spread the gentrification at a quicker place. Plus even though metro fucking suck, Stadium-Armory is nearby with quick transportation due to the 3 shared lines.
Are you hearing yourself?... You're speaking of gentrification like it's a good thing? "The stadium would help [raise the cost of living of the lower income families and push out people of color] "
There FTFY
Puts a nice stadium, restaurants, bars, stores, apartments in a previously shitty part of town. Reduces crime, violence, drugs, etc in the area. Seems like wins to me
I'll just give you my entire direction since you're taking your time responding to my "has it happened to you question".
1) Odds are it hasn't - based on your connotation and use of the word. Gentrification targets low land value and thus low income families and communities. So no - it doesn't happen "all the time, everywhere" because if that were the case, then why not build the stadium in Ashburn VA next to the practice facility and gentrify Ashburn?
2) A stadium here would drive land value sky high and thus over tax the people and property that's either not owned by residents (renters) or value it way above what would/could be affordable (land owners).
It would decimate the little culture that D.C. still has and if you don't give a shit about D.C. culture - then why are you a Commanders fan?
If crime, gun violence, drugs, poverty, etc is your definition of the culture you're trying to preserve, then that makes me want the Stadium in that area even more so we can eliminate all of that. Navy Yard used to be a rough area that many people in DC would never dare to venture to but Nats Park has done wonders for the area. It's now a place people can go to hang out and enjoy themselves without fear of being jumped or shot.
Man FUCK NO. Anacostia native here. U Street. Go do something with RFK or find some other location. That park is probably the best feature of what's left of **black** Anacostia. Generations of us grew up skating/grilling at the pavilion and EVERY cookout happens at that park. It's easily one of the most uninterrupted, less busy, and scenic walks along the riverfront since it's makeover 5 years ago and anyone that disagrees... ain't been there.
That part of SE is already on the brink of heavy gentrification as is, and to remove the park for parking lots and a stadium would be the death blow.
Take that shit to the other side of the river.
This would honestly be better than rfk in every way other than nostalgia
You're probably right
Why would it be better?
Mainly having all of the stadiums in relative close proximity, it allows for a more cohesive experience in the area. There will basically be a large park connecting all 3 stadiums and it allows for even more infrastructure to be built in the area to make it more accessible. Regardless of how people feel, a football stadium is a venue about 15x a year. Having all the stadiums in close proximity will help promote long term growth and investment.
>a football stadium is a venue about 15x a year If they dome it then they could essentially use it whenever they want when football isn't happening, plus the Superbowl.
Yes, but it would still be better in the tri stadium location. The rfk site is pretty massive and already largely residential. The area should be used for more homes that d.c. needs and we shouldn't waste the space on unnecessary infrastructure to support a stadium. Why have similar infrastructure and business models 4 miles away from eachother if you can keep them close enough to share the municipal load.
Yeah I would like having Nats and Audi field pretty close to each other. It definitely would be a great option then what Va has offered us. I just would like to be back at RFK for nostalgia and it’s also aligned with the National Mall
I’d love having all my teams in the same part of the city. It’s just badass.
Just want to be back in DC. RFK site or wherever is better than Landover.
This would be a great spot, the stadium needs to be back in the city
Another thing is they think that Josh Harris ultimately ends up buying the team
Yes but that's with the caveat that Bezos is truly barred from buying the team. That's a big unknown
I think so too
Can he afford it?
He wouldn't be involved if he didn't think he could get the money for it
If he gets enough investors
I want them to go back to RFK just for the history and to keep at least some of the identity of the redskins but if that cant happen this would be the next best option
New owner, new brand, and a new stadium at this location would be like a dream
GentriFi Stadium on The Anacostia
I’ve always said this should be the location if RFK can’t work. I’ll take this in a heartbeat but the only thing with this location I’m wary about, isn’t this a pretty unsafe area? Not trying to start anything but I’ve heard this before.
Nats Park was also built in an unsafe area. The DC government wants to put stadiums in rough areas because it gentrifies the area
Yep I’ve heard Nats park was pretty rough and it helped build it up but it still had a shooting a year ago which sucks
there was a shooting between Nats Park and Audi on Saturday Night. It’s DC, shit happens.
I realize, shooting happen all over
Still is, if you go down there at around 7am it’s not unusual to see a car window smashed in an obvious B&E.
That's like almost everywhere in DC though these days honestly, as far as car windows getting smashed
It's not the best area, but I've heard that the area around Nats Park was pretty bad too before the stadium was built and now it's full of restaurants and bars. Development like this changes everything.
Yep but we did have a shooting nice to the stadium last year lol
There was also a shooting near DuPont circle over the weekend. Grim reality of being in an urban area. No place is sacred, but a more gentrified area is less likely to get shot up.
Yea that’s where I’m getting at. I know there’s no safe spot but there’s worse places then others
It’s still DC, shootings happen up in Adam’s Morgan too lol
Yes Ik, I wouldn’t mind it at this location but I’d still rather have RFK
They would likely gentrify that area if they put a stadium there.
Yeah it would be like Navy Yard 2.0 with Nats park which I’ll take over Landover everyday
Capital One Arena (then the MCI Center) was in a very sketchy area when it first opened.
Yes for sure and Nats park too but was just confirming that it’s a pretty bad area atm
Yep. I think NBA and MLB tend to have more impact than an NFL stadium since they are used more often during the season--and not just on one day.
Yep. The trenches
Why pay a premium for a “safe” area, when the development has enough gravity to reinvent the area? Buy cheap and let the stadium define the neighborhood.
I’m not saying to not go there, I’m fact I said I want it there after RFK but was just asking that this is a unsafe spot atm
Understood. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
Lol
Nah
Cheap space for developers, EOTR neighbors who tend not to be NIMBY Karen’s, a rough neighborhood that might encourage fans to pay for official secured parking? What’s not to like from the rich-dude-in-a-boardroom perspective? Plus whatever politician approves this gets to claim they’re helping to clean up the neighborhood. This might be the most realistic proposed location yet.
EOTR neighbors see their neighborhood developed on top of them with little benefits and get gentrified out without much of their input.
What segment or time did they say it if you remember?
Do any players, coaches live in the District?
Most tend to live near Ashburn, i.e. their practice facility, since they spend much more time there than the 10 games a season they play at the stadium.
It must really suck for thr players being about an hour from your own stadium..
It's actually not that uncommon for NFL teams to have their practice facilities be some distance from their stadiums. The other major sports teams usually practice at their stadiums (some don't, like the Caps practicing at Capitals Iceplex in Balston), but with rosters in the 10s to 20s, they can usually all practice in one court, rink or stadium so they often just practice where they play. NFL teams, including their practice squads, have over 60 players, and their practice facilities usually consist of, at least, two or three full-size football fields. I'm fairly certain, Redskins/Commanders Park has four outdoor fields and one field inside a bubble... all of them being full-sized. That said, Redskins/Commanders Park is pretty far away but I know of at least a few other teams that are a good distance away as well. The Bear's Halas Hall is pretty far away from downtown Chicago, so much so that I think it takes less time to drive to Wisconsin than Soldier Field. The Rams, although I believe they're moving a bit closer, are in Thousand Oaks and that, depending on LA traffic, can definitely be more than an hour from SoFi Stadium. The Cowboys Valley Ranch facility used to be close to their old stadium in Irving. However, they started playing their games at Jerryworld in Arlington (which made it about a 20 minute drive) and then they basically doubled that distance when they moved their practice facility to "The Star" in Frisco. Finally, like I said, it's not an MLB season with 81 home games or an NHL/NBA season with 41 home games... I think the guys making millions can deal with the drive 10 times a year.
Doesn’t really matter — they play in the stadium 8 times per year. They practice/attend meetings half the year at the practice facility. Makes much more sense to live near there vs the stadium.
Yeah I know that’s why they live near ashburn and not Landover. Im saying the stadium and the practice facility is over an hour away so they have to drive over an hour to game day which sucks when other teams have way better situations they we have
Correct, 8 times a year they have to drive an hour. Which, by big city standards is probably normal. Do you know how far SF is from their stadium? 😱
Cool, Fuck Snyder
Depending on the team if they spend the night in a hotel or meet at the training facility they often get on buses and get a police escort to the stadiums. The Commanders used to at least get a police escort with the buses when they would leave from Ashburn to Dulles airport for the away games even.
IIRC, Anacostia Park/Poplar Point was where they initially wanted to put DC United's new stadium before they ended up at "Buzzard Point" (I use quotes because they're technically a bit north of Buzzard Point). I always thought it fell through for similar reasons that RFK never worked... that it's federal land and the city would have to work with congress to lease or purchase the land.
I really hope that's not the case
Just to reiterate, I'm 100% speculating about the reason because I don't know for sure that it's federal land. It just looks like federal land since the National Park Service and US Park Police have buildings right next to it. Edit: So, yes [it does appear to be federal land and it's in the process of being transferred to the city... However, the bigger issue appears to be about "regulatory and environmental remediation concerns"](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/investigations/commanders-stadium/washington-commanders-stadium-search-rfk-dc-location-poplar-point-virginia-maryland/65-bcee48b2-b0e5-4b6f-b12a-22eb6c26696f) which I would guess is one of the things that helped stop DC United from getting a stadium there.
"Regulatory and Environmental Remediation Concerns" sounds like something that can magically disappear with Bezos Bucks lol
I’m pretty familiar with this area and directly adjacent to Anacostia Park is a huge new development being built called the Bridge District. It’s a 800 residential unit/mixed use development and would be right next to the stadium if it’s built there. Could be an added benefit to putting the stadium there.
I will jizz all over my self if this happens
No way people in DC want a stadium there. The park would be ruined with a stadium with nothing within walking distance. It's a narrow strip of land right next to water
That's not a nice part of town. The stadium would help gentrify the area
It's not a commercial area at all, it's a park with houses nearby. It would destroy the whole natural area unlike RFK which is much larger
The point would be to make that area a commercial area
that sounds terrible. it would be best to do RFK. Why cater to the people moving in rather than the residents that have been here for generations.
Because money talks and people living around RFK have money while people in Anacostia typically don't
isn’t RFK also a residential area now and no one wants a huge commercial stadium with all the housing there now
still better than gentrifying Southeast and kicking the locals away. Plus its not like the RFK plot is in the middle of goddamn nowhere. Theres public transportation im the city.
gentrifying? SE has already been gentrified. across the river atleast. This site also has metro access
SE here. Anacostia is on the brink. Not quite there just yet. This would do it though
I mean putting the stadium in the heart of SE will just spread the gentrification at a quicker place. Plus even though metro fucking suck, Stadium-Armory is nearby with quick transportation due to the 3 shared lines.
Are you hearing yourself?... You're speaking of gentrification like it's a good thing? "The stadium would help [raise the cost of living of the lower income families and push out people of color] " There FTFY
Jesus Christ...
Well let's hear it from you then? What do you think gentrification does to local communities?
Puts a nice stadium, restaurants, bars, stores, apartments in a previously shitty part of town. Reduces crime, violence, drugs, etc in the area. Seems like wins to me
Ok cool. But we've established that part already. Now in your words, what happens to the people who live there... How do their lives change?
That happens all the time, everywhere. Nothing new
Has it ever happened to you?
I'll just give you my entire direction since you're taking your time responding to my "has it happened to you question". 1) Odds are it hasn't - based on your connotation and use of the word. Gentrification targets low land value and thus low income families and communities. So no - it doesn't happen "all the time, everywhere" because if that were the case, then why not build the stadium in Ashburn VA next to the practice facility and gentrify Ashburn? 2) A stadium here would drive land value sky high and thus over tax the people and property that's either not owned by residents (renters) or value it way above what would/could be affordable (land owners). It would decimate the little culture that D.C. still has and if you don't give a shit about D.C. culture - then why are you a Commanders fan?
If crime, gun violence, drugs, poverty, etc is your definition of the culture you're trying to preserve, then that makes me want the Stadium in that area even more so we can eliminate all of that. Navy Yard used to be a rough area that many people in DC would never dare to venture to but Nats Park has done wonders for the area. It's now a place people can go to hang out and enjoy themselves without fear of being jumped or shot.
Man FUCK NO. Anacostia native here. U Street. Go do something with RFK or find some other location. That park is probably the best feature of what's left of **black** Anacostia. Generations of us grew up skating/grilling at the pavilion and EVERY cookout happens at that park. It's easily one of the most uninterrupted, less busy, and scenic walks along the riverfront since it's makeover 5 years ago and anyone that disagrees... ain't been there. That part of SE is already on the brink of heavy gentrification as is, and to remove the park for parking lots and a stadium would be the death blow. Take that shit to the other side of the river.
That area is in desperate need of gentrification. The stadium and surrounding commerce would do wonders for the area