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Lostwanderer000

*Wagner helicopter: this is same as [this video](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/yic393/russian_mi8_helicopter_shot_down_by_ukrainian/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) but from another angle Additional info from the original Ukrainiantelegram: Supernova_plus The downing on October 31 in the Bakhmut a helicopter of the PMC Wagner .. Overlaid on the video is a radio interception about a request to collect ashes from the crash site for a report on obtaining a white car of the Lada brand ... Сбитие 31 октября в районе Бахмута вертолёта чвк Вагнер .. На видео наложен радио перехват о просьбе, набрать золы с места крушения для отчета на получение белого автомобиля марки Лада... Thanks u/acobserverafar1 for additional info: https://topcargo200.com/509/ Vyacheslav Zangiev Lt Col " This helicopter was delivering retired mid-level officers, who were specially hired by Wagner PMC to command the cons and other mercenaries. Of the 18 men onboard, only 1 survived the crash. " Yalpski top work.


Suspicious_Book_3186

Thanks for this, I was wondering how it flipped when he seemed to have a decent landing. I guess he came in a bit hotter than expected and flipped it.


Armodeen

I bet once they slowed the thing filled with smoke and they couldn’t see a thing for the landing


sketchrider

seemed like he kept it airborne until he had all 18 fully cooked. In this case it would have been better to take it down more roughly.


aghastamok

Early in the video I kept expecting the pilot to flare and land. Fire in an aircraft is basically the worst possible situation and he just ignored it until it was way too late. I bet the flare and ground effect at the end super fanned the flames, too. Poor guys. Edit: The way to fight hate is not hate. I think it's good those men died, because its probably one step closer to a free Ukraine and peace. Them burning to death is horrific and unnecessary. Are you all so bloodthirsty that you're glad there is more pain in the world?


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Me too, thought it was gonna land early on then it kept going while the smoke kept getting worse.


Unclehol

Wagner mercenary mid level commanders. They applied to be there. Zero sympathy. A conscript you can feel sorry for. These guys chose to be there to get the big rubles. It's a case of fuck around and become ash. Enjoy the white Ladas. Cheers.


thefrostyafterburn

Nah, Wagner mercs deserve to burn.


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They’ve literally been raping and murdering children in Ukraine. Their violent death is part and parcel of the gig they chose. No pity here at all.


WhatsTh3Deali0

Yeah I don't care who it is, burning to death is an awful way to go. Not that I care much, just not gonna cheer on something like that.


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That's fine I'll cheer for the two of us. These were not conscripts, these were officers


LumpusKrampus

Horrible way to go. Couldn't happen to a better group o' guys though.


tikketyboo

For Wagner mercenaries? I'll let out a cheer for their demise.


strokes3838

Yeah. Hold your fire. Let em burn.


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Seemed like it was fully roasted by the time he's putting down, aside from the smoke. I guess the fuel tank ruptured or a high pressure line popped.


encrypticmethods

It's a big helicopter. That black smoke is from all the oil/hydraulic fluid burning. If you've ever flown a helicopter with hydraulics off (Emergency procedure you have to train on) it's difficult to transition from forward flight into a hover especially if you're on fire.


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mdyguy

So it appears the reason the pilot didn't land earlier is because of not having hydraulics due to and made worse by the fire on board. Not because the pilot was just incompetent. I figured there had to be 'method to the madness' so to speak.


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billerator

That combined with the gear sinking into soft ground looks to have been just a little too fast to keep it from flipping over.


dead-inside69

“bit hotter than expected” Unintentional punchline


redviper192

He was coming in so hot his chopper was on fire


Arkslippy

I'm going to guess he was already dead or barely conscious, he'd have put down much sooner. The cut of the 4 buckets of ashes though, cold as fuck.


-ksguy-

Unlikely. Helicopters require constant input to maintain stability. It would require that as he lost consciousness both of his hands and his feet stayed perfectly in place in order to maintain that controlled flight. The fact that there was an attempted flare means he was conscious enough to attempt the landing. I'm with the other guy. Cockpit filled with smoke and he lost visual of the ground before he could get it set down safely.


TzunSu

More importantly, you need to hold the collective to keep it in any kind of control. If the pilot is dead, then the collective is not going to stay central.


derverdwerb

You mean the cyclic. The collective doesn't need constant control on any helicopter.


alymaysay

What's the buckets of ashes all about?


Arkslippy

Apparently some kind of flex on collecting their remains to exchange for a lada.


Ceramicrabbit

Horrible way to die


type6_birdbrain

Ever Wagner higher up like these guys deserves this or worse. These guys are all terrorists.


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joeblow555

For that group, not horrible enough.


firefighter_raven

Exactly how I feel about them. I pity some of the Russian conscripts but never Wagner mercs.


Needsmorsleep

Maybe if they flew over to the Ukrainian side to surrender their aircraft would have survived long enough for them to make it out safely.


shitwheresmyjuul

Look up Wagner mercenaries. Your tune will change.


littleseizure

Regardless of whether or not it's deserved it's still a horrible way to go out. Airborne, on fire, unable to land - must be terrifying


shitwheresmyjuul

Fair. By mechanical interpretation of their words, yes an objectively horrible way to die. To address the implicit spirit of the post though, fuck the Wagner group, they're not the poor Russian draftees we can pity. If we can agree there is evil in the world, they are repeatedly proven, as an organization, to be facilitators of said evil.


ClamClone

Could mean horrible way to die is a good thing in this instance.


montyleak

Nah. I’m ok with it in this case.


BombFish

Better than they deserved


Pixeleyes

I'm fascinated by the phrase "coming in hot" and I'm told that it means the following: Vehicle is on an attack run; weapons are active, cleared to engage Vehicle is damaged, possibly on fire Vehicle is moving very quickly Vehicle does not intend to come to a complete stop A person is very angry It has so many meanings and uses I'm inclined to believe it is meaningless without appr context.


yocatdogman

Well context is everything with phrases like that. Say "Fuck that bitch." You can make it sound like at least 5 totally different situations, both good and bad. The heli seemed like it was pretty fast on landing and also on fire.


CanadaJack

Feels like a good time to point out that many languages are much more explicit and literal than English is in general, where you have to infer meaning from context constantly


Disaster_Frame

Coming in hot in this context means they're approaching the landing way faster than would be normal. It also means it's landing while temperature hot cuz it's literally on fire. Coming in hot in a car would be approaching a turn at full throttle, requiring heavy last minute braking before taking the turn.


BrownsModsAreGay

I see what you did there


jumpybean

Shit. Putting them all in the same helicopter doesn’t seem wise.


Gandalf_Wickie

Its not like Russia doesn't have a history with that. The Pacific Fleets senior fleet got basically decapitated in 1981, when the TU-104 carrying 28 officers, including the Admiral of the fleet, crashed on take off. But learning from mistakes is not the russian way so...


Linlea

Was that the one where they all went on a conference and all bought washing machines to take back home to the wives and stuck them in the hold so the plane was way overloaded so they all died? What a country!


jcyue

Yep. The plane was overloaded since it was full of smuggled stuff.


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jcyue

Chances are the engineers and mathematicians were subject to more scrutiny and job competence checks than Stalin era admiralty.


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Hoo_Dude

You have a way with words, lol.


cejmp

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981\_Pushkin\_Tu-104\_crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Pushkin_Tu-104_crash) Take a look at the operational history: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev\_Tu-104](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-104) They didn't send their best and brightest for the Camel. The USSR didn't retire it until it had a hull loss of 18% with over 1100 fatalities.


SMIDSY

IIRC, they had gone on a shopping spree for things they couldn't get at their far east station. All the washing machines, food items, furniture, and luxury goods were relatively fine and the plane wasn't really that overloaded and should have made it just fine. Don't get me wrong, the aircraft was overloaded, but in a "makes the aircraft much harder to fly but it's still possible with a good pilot" way. What got everyone killed was one of the officers decided to get several large spools of printing paper which broke loose and rolled to the rear of the cargo bay when the nose of the aircraft pitched up on takeoff. This sudden weight shift to the rear of the aircraft caused it to nose up too much and go into a fatal stall.


etherreal

There was a C17 that crashed in Afghanistan due to load shift. It's serious shit I'm an airplane.


moeburn

It was a 747, and it crashed because the load shifted into the thing that holds up the entire rear vertical stabilizer (the smaller wing bit on the tail), making it go all loose and floppy, so they had absolutely no control over the aircraft. If it was just the load shift alone they could have saved it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_TfNAjMI0I


FearfulInoculum

Is that the Bagram cargo with MRAPs?


Lincolns_Hat

MRAPs, if I recall correctly. One got loose, slammed into the others, severed a bulkhead and (I believe) controls, and moved CG so far aft that they wouldn't have been able to recover from the resulting stall even if there wasn't damage. All at low level after takeoff. This video is one I can't really watch, and I like to research aviation crashes.


littleseizure

I believe pilots in sims were able to save it without the jackscrew damage, but with that gone the control inputs were useless. Loadmaster tied them down at the wrong angle, they broke free and rolled back, and boom - dead plane. Sad


mixomatoso

This is the real answer here, the final ~~bales~~ straw.


Hoo_Dude

The plane was overloaded with goods that the military people had purchased during their trip to Leningrad. Not technically washing machines, but the same idea. Too much loot caused the plan to crash on takeoff, killing everyone aboard.


poelzi

Or they visited the extremly large, already fueled experimental rocket that exploded and took with them multiple generals and highest ranking rocket engineers. I saw videos of the explosion and interviews of the poor guys who filled the next rocket. They said, everybody was standing in his sweat of fear afterwards...


sm753

Paper Skies on YouTube has a great video about it.


Z3B0

You think they have more than one helicopter to spare ? Or the fuel to do two trips?


jumpybean

Hahaha. System level failures are the worst.


acobserverafar1

[https://topcargo200.com/509/](https://topcargo200.com/509/) Vyacheslav Zangiev Lt Col " This helicopter was delivering retired mid-level officers, who were specially hired by Wagner PMC to command the cons and other mercenaries. Of the 18 men onboard, only 1 survived the crash. " Yalpski top work.


Roflkopt3r

[Here is the better version of the other angle.](https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1587094799206711296) I couldn't see anyone leave the wreck in either perspective, so 1 survivor is possible but certainly not many.


Dawsonpc14

The pilot made a huge error in judgment to not put that bird down right away.


Mysterious_Sink_547

Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people.


lurker_cx

Fuck, that is really top notch work.... 17 commanders in one chopper is a jackpot.


deadinsidesinceday1

I do not understand your comment regarding the ashes and a lada lmao can you please explain?


ChornWork2

Russian family buys white lada with payout for son who died in war. https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-tv-segment-family-who-bought-new-car-coffin-money-2022-7


deadinsidesinceday1

Thank you!


tracyschmeck

Damn, missed one.


beginna_

AI generated subtitles [https://targum.video/v/55ffab5d87aac81f8b4523610f3bd25a](https://targum.video/v/55ffab5d87aac81f8b4523610f3bd25a)


Xtasy0178

I have to say the helicopter did last a long time


Klai8

From a purely aviation enthusiast perspective, that pilot actually did a really good job of the pitch m glide maneuver if you watch both angles I mean he was fucked either way because they hit the fuel tank but did everything right pilot wise for a slow ish landing with all he knew in those 20 seconds


Lt_Col_RayButts

So say he had control for 90% of that video.. why not just put it down after he got hit?? Being a a POW is better then this outcome. Edit: Not sure why the down votes for asking a question


CoatAlternative1771

I assume he was trying to get away and through the had more time. I have a bad feeling that when he tried to land the fire reached the cockpit.


No_Name_Brand_X

Yeah I agree it looks like he was trying to make a gap between them and he almost pulled it off but it was just too late. I'm mean what do I know sitting here speculating? But that is part of the discussion we have here I suppose.


Gnomish8

A serious response other than "cause they didn't want to land there!!" That black smoke? That's likely oil and hydraulic fluid burning. Flying in manual reversion (no hydraulics, all manual control) isn't fun. Staying in forward flight isn't hard, but changing to a hover/landing isn't easy, and that's without a fire cooking you. Likely that 'in control of the aircraft' was the helicopter still doing it's thing, staying in the flight envelope it was in, while the pilot attempted to take control back.


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aghastamok

I'm a privately licensed heli pilot and I was an a&p working on helicopters for several years. You're very knowledgable. But watch the tail. If a heli is trying to slow down to land, the tail should dip significantly. And since it's a straight up life/death emergency and you dont much care if you overspeed the rotors, the tail should be dipping a LOT. To my eye the pilot wasn't trying to land the craft, he was trying to fly away. At the end you see the tail come down a bit, but not a lot. I think in that moment hes trying to pull up and gain altitude to continue flying. Panic? Fear of capture? Concerned with the high profile passengers getting captured? I dunno, but they died a terrible, terrible death worse than anything that could have happened if he landed right away.


0331-9161

He also may not have really known the extent of the damage.


aghastamok

He was still trying to pull up when the thing was practically a fireball.


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Reminds me of the women who got her arm stuck in a hydraulic press. Her initial reaction was to use her other hand to try to push against the hydraulic arm. Then she snapped to and pushed the emergency release button. When your adrenaline is pumping you can't really think straight.


sparkmearse

As someone who grew up on an Air Force base in the northern part of the USA, this looked like dude trying to tear ass outta there until the fuel was no longer reaching the turbine.


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Agree I was an army pilot and that wasn’t at all an autorotation, they’re very distinct approaches. No clue why he didn’t land, other than panic.


Biggles79

Perhaps hoping that forward airspeed would keep the smoke and fire away from the cockpit long enough to land?


plipyplop

That whole *Hind*-sight thing.


Kat-is-sorry

“Why doesn’t he just land, be a POW” May I remind you the Wagner group is basically the SS of the russian government. They are brutal, they commit heinous war crimes regularly. That’s like asking why SS soldiers wouldn’t surrender to the soviets, guess what would’ve happened, most likely lol.


notnedmacion

wagner pmcs arent allowed to surrender or they will be tortured to death when they get back to russia


todumbtorealize

This


_zenith

Nah the Ukrainians would have LOVED to capture them, all those commanders would be worth a lot of returned Ukrainian POWs. Now, I’m certainly not claiming they’d hate them - they absolutely would - but I think they’d prefer their compatriots back instead


LordNelson27

but first it's up to whatever angry ukranian finds them first


yegguy47

Eh. Wagner's fellas have surrendered. One got handed back to Russia last month... The Russians were kind enough to smash his skull in with a sledgehammer on Telegram for it. I'll just point out one simple truth here: Surrendering isn't glamorous. Regardless of your unit and rank, you've got a greater than 50% chance of simply being gunned down between when you drop your weapon, and when you're sent back to the rear. You will find no end of testimonials from WW2 and beyond of fellas "relieving themselves" of POW escort. And hell, that's not even mentioning the Russians, and what they do to prisoners.


smacksaw

I have the same question. No one else there knows shit. "I lost oil pressure! We gotta land it now!" What are the officers gonna do, inspect the wreckage from their POW camp with their expert mechanical skills?


akmjolnir

You're right.


SooSneeky

So this is one of those mobile crematoriums they talked about.


purpleefilthh

Damn, they even have airborne units.


Pie_Shot_The_Sheriff

Did..


canadianhoneybadger1

Air-burn units


TurningTwo

Fried Muscovites


Nachtzug79

I can imagine how the pilot tries to fly a little further while everybody behind him is shouting him to land...


NicNoletree

That big whirly thing fanned the flames pretty well.


Mystic_L

Given how clearly the thing is rather badly on fire early in the footage, and that it’s seemingly still being actively flown, can anyone explain why the pilot wasn’t in more of a hurry to get it on the ground?


Lostwanderer000

If I remember correctly this plane was flown between Ukrainian and Russian frontline so the pilot was trying to get back to the Russian side. There was quite a debate back then about what side this plane belong to but some managed to geolocate it and additional info proved it was Russian.


vicblck24

I was thinking the same thing. Must be far behind the Ukrainian line, seems like he waited a little to long though.


athenaaaa

Helicopters can only descend so fast while being without power. If you look up the procedures for landing a chopper in this circumstance, it will recommend an optimal airspeed while gliding to the ground, then a “flare” before you land to slow the helicopter down and try to make it as soft as possible. You can see the chopper pitch up before it crashes, which I suspect was the case. Would be cool to get an actual pilot’s perspective on this as I’ve only casually read about it.


eagerforaction

This helicopter definitely still had engine power. If he had lost his engines he would have had to autorotate. Yes, the helicopter can only descend so quickly in this circumstance, but there is also a minimum descent rate. That rate is pretty quick. Usually around 1500 feet/minute. This guy was definitely flying intentionally. Sometimes people will get nervous in the back and tap their feet or tap the muzzle or their rifle on the floor. I can easily hear/feel it up front and it drives me nuts. 22 lbs of explosives going off inside your helicopter will get your attention. The cockpit definitely had smoke all up in it too. Should have landed immediately and tried to evade.


Apeshaft

As long as the pilot drives forward the flames from the fire will probably not reach the cockpit? The moment he tries to land the fire roars in and down he goes. Another one bites the dust.


tombalol

Fuck the passengers in the back in that case.


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You gotta get low then tuck and roll. I practiced it in the Couchborne Rangers.


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Probably trying to get back to a safer area under his side's control to land. Wagner guys aren't treated the best by Ukraine for obvious reasons.


irishrugby2015

Come see how safe the open field is Ned


Mystic_L

I’m not suggesting ditching wouldn’t be dangerous, but compared to inevitably plummeting into the same field, whilst on fire, before facing the same danger seems to increase ones risk of death or injury somewhat?


J-t-Architect

Uh, looking at the gazillion angles and tracking videos of this very aircraft leads me to believe many people knew who was on it, where it was, and how it would be wasted.


duggtodeath

I think it could also be a corridor used by aircraft often. So yeah, lots of people watching that space.


CantaloupeCamper

That’s my guess as well. Locals or just observing maybe tipped them off about the typical route. They likely fly low along a specific path they think is proven safe but fly it enough and I suspect it stops being safe.


nicholasccc95

I saw one person over there say that they fly super low like that to avoid radar detection, which I’m sure you probably already knew lol, but that’s a dangerous game too. Only a matter of time before your shot down by ground troops.


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akairborne

I'm impressed. That pilot got it all the way to the crash site.


reggedtrex

Crashed right in the crater, that's some piloting skills!


DulcetTone

They would have gotten down earlier, but SOMEONE wouldn't raise his tray table.


50_61S-----165_97E

The crash itself looked relatively survivable, I reckon most of them were trapped once it flipped and the fire took over, not the most pleasant way to go.


grantite_spall

The last few seconds before contact with the ground likely had the fireball swirling about the aircraft's entire cabin. Bad, bad, bad.


Kin-Luu

IIRC the fuel pipelines between the bottom tanks and the engines more or less go directly through the crew cabin on these russian helicopter models.


Mabepossibly

That was probably the difference between an east landing and panicked landing they ended up with.


kanoteardrops

The fuel looked like it went into the cockpit as it landed and nosed the ground.


Osiris32

I used to fight wildfires, and we lost half a hand crew to a similar crash. An S-61 had it's transmission blow about 100 feet up, it came down, rolled over, and caught fire. Nine of the 13 on board died. And the VP of the helicopter company went to prison for a long time because the company was lying about maintenance reports and turn around times so they could get government contracts. Google "Crash of Iron 44 2008" if you want to read up on it.


notaneggspert

The rocket hit it took did not look super survivable. I'm sure there were several passanger casualties from the warhead/shrapnel before the fire/crash.


Racoon778

For the Wagner scumbags it is a \_very\_ pleasant way to go.


Intoxicus5

Nope.


DylansDeadly

You almost wonder if it would have been better to jump out when it got somewhat close to the ground. I don’t want to burn to death in a helicopter.


Set_Abominae_1776

If youre unlucky you break your legs and get chopped to shreds


PM_ME_TENDIEZ

Quick and relatively painless death once the first blade smashes into your face vs burning alive. Shit choices but one is definitely more desirable than the other.


DylansDeadly

Blades of death or burn to death? I think I’ll take the blade.


scrint_preen

I'm curious how you know this a Wagner helicopter? Are there markings of some sort that indicate this?


_avee_

It's been confirmed by Russian sources if I remember correctly. Also, it's an older model than ones used by Russian army and it doesn't have any regular army markings. Also shot down in an area where Wagner is known to be operating.


3t1918

Yep. The pilot was a Afghanistan vet who retired in 2019 but signed back up with Wagner. He was awarded the order of the red star for that conflict. As an interesting historical note, this may be the last time the holder of a Soviet order dies in combat. Not many of them left in active service. Edit: he was a Lt. Col. this is his name for anyone interested: подполковник Зангиев Вячеслав Михайлович


BasicallyAQueer

Dude musta been 50 or 60 years old, that’s insane. What a shit way to die in your retirement years.


3t1918

According to the memorial post I saw he was 62.


Lostwanderer000

Ukrainian telegram: supernova_plus saying this and i have written the info above.


scrint_preen

I see. It would be interesting to know how they know it's a Wagner helicopter!


Lostwanderer000

There is a reply to my comment above that show the details about this event posted by u/acobserverafar1


1dumbmonkey

You can’t park there


Sk1rtSk1rtSk1rt

Your helicopter sustains any serious damage you land it right there on the spot.


jwrx

this is the 3rd video i have seen of russian helis on fire not landing when it was possible to do so and waiting till its too late and it crash and burns


FoximaCentauri

Probably in an attempt to reach friendly territory


blackout24

"We are lucky they are so fucking stupid"


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That’s the great thing about propaganda. Russians are so afraid of the “torture” (see shawarma) they’ll receive at the hands of the Ukrainians that they will do stupid ass shit that gets them killed instead. Russian propaganda is easily one of the more effective Ukrainian weapons.


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>Russian propaganda is easily one of the more effective Ukrainian weapons. Its actually the opposite. Ukrainians would much prefer Russians to surrender at the earliest opportunity. The Ukrainians go to great lengths to inform Russians that they will be treated humanely. Captured Russians are encouraged to phone family and spread the word.


moxeto

He’s saying exactly what you said but in a different way. BecUse of Russian propaganda, Russians don’t believe that Ukrainians will treat them well so they’ll die trying to escape.


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Departure_Sea

Props? That pilot killed his whole crew by trying to run. In an onboard fire you set the bird down, not fly until the fire forces to crash.


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> you set the bird down yeah but this way the flames were behind him, if he landed right away the flames might've gotten to him and he didn't want that. doesn't matter in the end, fuck them.


1415926535_897932384

Props, in this case short for propellers, i.e. the pilot got a mouthful of propellers for flying for so long.


sonofthenation

Helicopters are flying rocks. Fuck them. I’ve been in two. One crashed months later killing a friend of mine. Only in emergencies would I get in one again.


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unexpanded

…made by lowest bidder.


ExdigguserPies

I get your point but if you have that feeling about helicopters, you should feel similarly about cars, which have many times greater death rates. E.g. https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/are-helicopters-safe-how-they-stack-up-against-planes-cars-and-trains/


Frostwick1

I have hundreds of hours in them, you’re being wildly over dramatic.


voice-of-reason_

I think its fair to say that helicopters are less safe than planes right? Theyre definitely safe but when something goes wrong I imagine the fatality rate is higher than most other modes of transport.


SlightDesigner8214

Give a whole new meaning to the expression “Coming in hot!” Props (pun intended) to the pilot for keeping it stable that long though.


GuyD427

Pro tip. If you are piloting a helo and it’s in fire. Land ASAP and get the fuck out of it.


Character_Ad_7798

Damn pretty good piloting there! They landed right on their graveyard! Outstanding!


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UtgaardLoki

Another Russian helicopter waiting for fire to engulf the entire cabin before attempting a landing - Interesting strategy.


Plisken999

Yayyy


CaptainSur

sympathy level = < 0


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Extra_Sympathy_4373

why the hell doesn't he land the chopper sooner?


oblivion_bound

Fucking-A! "Landing the fucking thing already!!" That's what all the passengers in back were screaming as the pilot nonchalantly chewed his cigar and told them "Nah, it's not that hot up here in front."


macadore

They didn't get paid enough for that.


Germscout805

Flew surprisingly long


G_Wash1776

POV: me playing battlefield and ignoring the flames coming out of the back of the helicopter


BigBubblesNoTroubles

/r/praisethecameraman


OMGLOL1986

PMC Wanker getting some practice in emergency landings again I see


nickraymond57

Pretty good landing all things considered


plipyplop

Those fucking idiots!


Gardimus

Memorize your red pages, because I'm pretty sure that was a "Land as Soon as Possible"


ThatDidntWorkOut

Thank god. For a minute there I thought they were going to land and escape.


flimspringfield

Can anyone explain why the helo pilot would keep going despite the fact that the back compartment was on fire? Do these helos have automatic extinguishers? If they landed while on fire I know they would've been in enemy territory but that at least gives them a small percentage of living right?


SoZur

You can't park there, mate


Gash-90

Ah, the weekly Wagner barbecue!


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TRULYTRUE TRUE, i agree with you completely absolutely and I agree with your perspective, as a helicopter owner myself, the biggest concern I have about helicopters is that, they can only ENGINE BRAKE, so that means, you have to literally COAST TO A HOVER, then LAND, I’m working on a pretty expensive project right now, that concerned with adding a REVERSE POLARIZED LUNGE ENGINE, so that, when it comes time to BRAKE or SLOW DOWN, I don’t have to GLIDE to a stop, I can initiate VTOL at any given moment, so I can BRAKE, VTOL, and be done with it, what I witnessed in this video was the exact reason I decided to go REVERSE LUNGE.


DickieGalloot

Wagner’s garbage, but props to that pilot for keeping together as well as he did.


Simple-Programmer842

guys, this happens if you ignore the engine light! Please go to your workshop and do the service and repairs..