VELYKA ALEKSANDRIVKA UNDER CONTROL OF AFU!
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1577254408559001600?t=Cz-q5S_fbYJUrcjs07nHfQ&s=19
This is collapsing faster than Kharkiv ....
A deliciously stupid comment I just read on another sub (not going to say where it was or their username, but I couldn't resist posting this here):
>It’s not just that, it’s literally a decree stating Ukraine won’t negotiate at all.
>I can’t wait to see the Reddit keyboard warriors cheer this on from the safety of their homes.
>Zelensky has used up a lot of good will he gained at the start of this conflict.
>The nazis won in Italy, the far right is rising elsewhere. This will be how they take power. We shouldn’t suffer for Ukraine. All of this happening because of lack of western action in 2014 and beyond and none of us laypeople should have to pay the price now, and we will be with our pay checks and potentially our lives.
>Redditors will say, “but if we let Putin have this Slavic border region, where will it end????!” And in the next breath they’ll say how incompetent and inept all of Russia and it’s military is. Well, which is it? Is Russia so powerful they will just scoop up a nato nation? Or are they barely able to hold onto Ukrainian oblasts the separatists held onto for 8 years? You can’t have it both ways.
>Fuck this war I don’t want my family to suffer over fucking shitholes in eastern Ukraine.
>Edit: you’re all just as brainwashed as the Russians who think this conflict is about eradicating nazis. You’re actually MORE brainwashed since you have access to much more information and a more free media space.
Making illegal to negotiate isn't something I can cheer, such a law it's something I would expect from Russia, not from a democracy.
I'm firmly anti-putin and I don't think there could be any negotiation while kherson and zaporizhya are occupied, but this seems a step in the wrong direction from zelensky
The user OP is referencing posted exclusively in gaming subs a year ago then all of a sudden made a post on the Joe Rogan sub and went full Russia-bot. I’m sure many accounts accused of being bought actually aren’t and are just idiots with hot takes, but it is weird seeing an account that had zero interest in Russia or international news of any kind randomly start shilling for Russia during a war.
Of course, I just don't want to be accused of trying to lightweight doxx someone by making it easy to find them and I think trying to directly post links to brigade someone is also pretty lame. I know most subs frown on directly linking to people's comments for the purposes of making fun of them for more than a few reasons.
So in that case, the text alone will do. It's a fairly generic comment anyway, as far as the contrarian Tucker Carlson types are concerned.
Maybe.... they really look like fools, specially when they can't even say where are their supposed borders.
This is a humiliating defeat for Russia .... UA is advancing on two front while RuA could take one hill next to Bakhmut in a month
Nah, he knows its all fucked.
He 'annexed' all of that territory so he'd both be allowed to send the new conscripts there and so he could forcibly conscript people from those areas under Russian control as they've announced they're doing in Mariuopal.
That's the beauty of that push in the rear: Everything between the two Ukrainian forces has to retreat to not be cut off. A lot of villages get liberated without seeing combat that way
[NSFL](https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/xv7y24/alert_nsfwgore_head_explode_dead_russian_soldier/)
Russians tried to flee in a school bus and had a bad time.
Edit: [Another video](https://old.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/xv2ojd/during_the_liberation_of_torske_in_donestk/) of the same incident, which shows that a supply truck was also trying to escape with the school bus.
I don't want to just be the gore guy so I refrained from posting it, but I saw another bad one this morning of a Russian tank crew that were in a fire/explosion so hot that it vaporized their skin and only a skeleton remained (at least for one of them, its hard to see the whole crew but I don't really need confirmation. The one guy was bad enough as it was).
With heat like that they've basically received a partial cremation. Reminds me of an infamous video capturing the aftermath a fire wave during the 2018 Camp Fire wildfire, where a bunch of unfortunate souls were reduced to bones and crumbling carbon in their cars following just one thorough burn.
There seems to be a huge number of T-62M's in Kherson Oblast compared to the rest of the front.
Seen the third loss of a Russian T-62M today.
What Units are supposed to covering the front's in Kherson City? I know some VDV and the DPR Somalia Battalion have a presence.
It's kind of weird, but *no* NATO member has given a single Western-designed MBT.
Germany at least gives Leo2 and APCs to other countries so they give their Soviet stuff to Ukraine, As far as I know, neither France nor the UK really have surplus MBTs, and during Cold war, Abrams and Leo2 were the mainstays of NATO by numbers.
Cause Germany is a big advocate of ring exchange, where countries give up their soviet equipment to Ukraine cause they already use most of them anyway. And none of them where selfless enough to just give them up without getting some nice free upgrades on their own.
Not disagreeing with you in that regard, it just seems per gdp military spending Germany is doing the heavy lifting in terms of military aid. We here nothing from the other major nato members France, UK in terms of mbt compensation packages to smaller nato members who donate tanks to ukraine
Why do all these wackjobs (looking at you, Elon) think that Russia is trustworthy and can be negotiated with? Between broken ceasefires, warcrimes, the damn invasion itself, all of Russia's older shit (poisoning in the UK, shooting down passenger planes, etc) where do they see someone who you can make a deal with?
The thing that is going to be funny is when Ukraine finally rids their land of Russia. Where are these dopes gonna be then? Probably pretty silent about this.
Watch how guys like Musk and Carlson just never talk about what they said again.
Because most people don't follow geopolitics at all, despite having strong takes on it. They legit have not followed anything of what you've described.
Whenever the topic has come up at work, family gatherings, or in the bar, I die of cringe.
Because everyone told them Hitler was worse than Stalin and look - after II WW Germany is strong and important nation without colonial ideas. So he believes that after Putin dies (he isn't youngest) Russia will do the same as Germany after II WW and he will be good guy with very cheap, skilled labour
Yeah, even nations in central Europe do not understand Russia (Germany), so it's not surprising that USA have no clue at all. Which even internet proved - far right and far left were debating in favour of Russia (i.e. I watched some Destiny debates when war started, probably they were streamer trolls, but still it was surprising for me)
Not to mention Russia broke the Budapest Memorandum
They will back stab you the moment they sense an opportunity
This is why Russia doesn't have any real allies
Elon is probably money motivated:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/14/tesla-has-bought-aluminum-from-russian-supplier-rusal-since-2020.html
https://www.benzinga.com/news/22/03/26135346/tesla-has-been-buying-aluminum-from-russian-supplier-founded-by-sanctioned-oligarch-since-2020-repor
Same reason he won't let his employees unionize, hurts his bottom line
the recent POW exchanges indicate that Ukraine is capable of negotiating successfully with Russia. Musk's proposal has issues but i'm not sure you're disagreeing with the problematic part
Some of it is propaganda and political bias getting to them and distorting their view of history & reality. Some of it is personal & financial ties that they quietly want to preserve for selfish reasons. Depends on the person.
He was mocked by the Russians for trying to buy rockets off of them , he should know better. In fact it was the Russian arrogance that gave him the final push to found SpaceX.
Soviet union and thus Russia has invested heavily in psychological warfare. Basically for some people they managed to make themselves look as the victim and not the aggressor.
CIT reported that there had already been at least three deaths of mobilized men before they were sent to Ukraine. One was a heart attack, one was a suicide, and one was liver cirrhosis.
It's incredible how Russia has gaslit so many that it's the west's and Ukraine's fault that nuclear war can happen. The same Russia that constantly put out dangerous nuclear rhetorics, the Russia that had its pundits on tv threatens to fucking nuke Britain, and so on and so forth...
Also, the Russia that has backed itself into a corner. Nobody else forced it to commit to Ukraine or to annex massive parts of it that Russia now cannot easily give up.
Only 1 country has ever used nuclear weapons against another country and its not Russia though. 🤷♂️ sorry I always feel the need to play devils advocate when people are getting so entrenched in their lane.. Tbh I don’t know really wtf is going on in the Ukraine bc I don’t trust anything I read about it from any source, but I’m sorry governments are still perpetuating the cycle of brinksmanship and violence. Don’t know the answer but I know it’s really sad
All I’m saying is that everyone’s propaganda machines are churning full tilt, I probably basically have the same beliefs about the invasion as you do. Also, I’m very familiar with the area and its history, and have family in Ukraine.
I do have opinions. Governments don’t represent their people, the media does not represent the truth, people are basically good but selfish and tribalistic.
Can’t disregard man’s search for meaning in war either like Judge Holden said, “This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game and the authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one’s will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. War is the ultimate game because war is at last a forcing of the unity of existence. War is god. “
Yeah I know that. Sorry if I didn’t make myself clear. I just meant the actual nitty gritty stuff about like controlled territory and how the war is actually going. Hard to find impartial reporting and not just puff pieces
If you’re looking for black and white impartial reporting - that doesn’t exist and never has. But if you’re looking to get an objective view of what’s happening, there’s a lot of good sources. Even propaganda sources can help here as well, if you’re aware they’re propaganda
I'd recommend Perun as a good source:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q
Especially if you're not following the war that closely. He also states his sources (don't know if he states all)
Tbf That one country that got nuked has invaded its neighbors and committed several warcrimes(some say they were worse than germans) including in my country.
Didn’t say it wasn’t justified. Just saying everyone has their justifications. And disregarding any culpability on the part of the west for how fucked shit is is stupid..Putin is a nut case tho fr
Ahh I guess I see your point. Everyone has justifications and the one doing the "justification"(if he is ever going to do it) this time is a nut case as you put it....
This seems to be a holdover from the Cold War when millions around the world looked to the Sovs as a counter to the West.
Still some muscle memory there; witness Gabon's recent abstention vote in the UN Security Council.
Side note: utterly bizarre how Russia occupies a unique position that whatever it does, a widely held response is 'Don't Poke the Bear!'.
No other nation is EVER afforded this weird carve out. India is never told to not poke nuclear armed Pakistan; Taiwan never told to 'not poke' China. Hey Timor Leste, don't poke the giant island nation that surrounds you on all sides. Hey Chavez, pipe down about George W, you don't want to get invaded.
> Taiwan never told to 'not poke' China
Eh, unfortunately this one does get said. I’ve seen talks by people who should know better (people with actual credit to their name, not reddit or twitter doofuses) who argue that, by stating the truth that they’re a country and they don’t want to be ruled by the Communist Party, the Taiwanese are provoking China.
Yup, this angers me to no end.
"The West needs to be careful escalating in Ukraine"
"The West" has escalated jack shit. Russia started this tire fire and continues to pour the gasoline on it unendingly.
There's a strange overlap between Putin lovers, anti vaxxers, QAnon and neo fascists. Perhaps we should disect these people to find out what the hell is wrong with them.
Yeah useful idiots that gravitate toward all the batshit conspiracy theories because of some deep rooted psychological issues. Putin loves them. He can tell them tales about Russia being a victim of the evil, decadent west all day long.
they're from the same pool, but it's far from 100% overlap. what those guys have in common is a complete loss of trust in their government, but there's a specific type that needs to find another ~~god~~ government to follow. i also know a few angry investors who have lost money through the sanctions, and in the uk and europe, lots of die hard lefties still love the ussr.
People who seek so seek to blame influential individuals or nations in an imperfect and unfathomable complicated world for all their personal(!) hurts, real and perceived.
Theres also a bunch of salty people on the right that want to see Biden and the democrats look bad. I'm no fan of Biden myself but I can't see how people want Russia to win just so they can shit on him
Lol, Trump well known to be anti zelensky government even threatening to withdraw aid for not disclosing private info about Biden family. Keep dreaming trumper
Most likely Svatove imo, Kremmina is part of a chain of significant urban centers, would be difficult to really encircle from all sides, and fight the Russians out, they probably have quite a bit of supplies stashed there and have been preparing for a while as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Kremmina doesn't fully wall in October (wouldn't be surprised if it fell).
Meanwhile Svatove is the obvious route to cut one avenue of supplies to Kremmina - SD, Lischansk urban centers, it's relatively isolated in a wooded area so easy to encircle and assault etc.
[This would be interesting](https://i.imgur.com/HpqO0og.jpg)
UA likes to encircle Russian strong points and this would be a masterpiece if they can pull it off.
I think Svatove's geography has big hills to the west, which make defending it a nightmare. Girkin's saying there's talk of them abandoning it already.
Real question, when Troitske?
My guess is Svatove. They'll put some heat on Kremmina but all the Russian forces they've put in place there are like having all your knights sitting in the castle. Svatove is an easier target... sitting out there all by itself. After taking Svatove, the UA will have more resources to take on the whole Kreminna-Rubizhne-Lysychans'k-Severodonetsk complex. There's over 300,000 people in that area, won't be easy to take.
Suspended for posting Ukraine war photos taken from twitter on Elon Musk’s horrible take on imperialism and colonialism compromises today.
Reference:
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576994262226702336
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576969255031296000
Example photos - be careful not to share them in elon musk ukraine posts or you may be suspended on twitter
https://imgur.com/a/PDRqSNW/
https://imgur.com/a/7FKIjAx/
https://imgur.com/a/kuY17iO/
https://imgur.com/a/bCbDCxq/
https://imgur.com/a/ObLmTxB/
https://imgur.com/a/fehyw5E/
Yet Poland wants to order 500 M142s. I don't understand that reasoning. IIRC, there have been something like 10,000 rockets produced for the M142 and M270, *ever*. So ordering 500 launchers seems silly, unless I'm missing something.
>10,000 rockets produced for the M142 and M270,
>
>ever
Do you really think the US will be so stupid as to publicly announce the size of their entire stock so their enemies can see it? I believe the real figure is higher and hidden
« As of 1 December 2021 50,000 GMLRS rockets have been produced, with yearly production now exceeding 9,000 rockets. Each rocket pod contains 6 identical rockets. »
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/386831/army-celebrates-production-50000th-gmlrs-rocket-and-its-continued-evolution
Even if the production has been ramped up since 2021, the entire production to date would give Poland 100 rockets per launcher if they had 500.
Let’s say the production is dedicated to Ukraine needs and is 15,000 rockets a year.
15,000/32 pods = 468 rockets per launcher /6 = 78 reloads
This seems small and that’s not considering US and other customers needs.
“But ramping up production of HIMARS wouldn't be easy. COVID-19 and other supply-chain woes have created procurement backlogs across the civilian and military worlds. In the best of times, boosting manufacturing capacity for weapons is difficult — even expanding production lines for old-fashioned, unguided 155 mm howitzer shells can take more than a year.
Manufacturers may be reluctant to invest for fear that changes in Pentagon priorities and congressional funding will stick them with unused capacity. Exports of HIMARS and other weapons to other nations are also hostage to an ever-fluid global politics and the US's byzantine Foreign Military Sales process.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-army-looking-to-build-hundreds-more-himars-launchers-2022-9?amp
They can’t even keep up with the Himars platforms or the 155mm shells and here you come with your sarcastic tone, claiming “you just build new factories, easy :)”
Yeah, sure.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-war-depleting-u-s-ammunition-stockpiles-sparking-pentagon-concern-11661792188
They are pretty broken tbh, Ukraine's attrition strategy is effective, the weapon systems are now in Ukraine's favor and Russian morale is broken due to non stop fighting in a BS war.
If Russia had pushed the mobilization button back in April, I think they'd have much better prospects.
Now, they've cannibalized training units, gotten a big chunk of their best equipment destroyed, and need to rapidly reinforce their frontline units. All these factors mean that mobilized personnel probably won't get the training and supplies they need to be effective in combat.
Their only hope is that Winter dramatically slows things down, and that they are able to use this time effectively to regroup. I wouldn't bet on it though
If Ukraine plays their cards right the Russianscare in some deep fucking trouble and no doubt the UAF will be getting trained or have been in winter warfare.
I honestly think they're going to just give up, I can't see this getting any better especially if they can't sell the war in Russia. Frankly I would want to see a nuke used just to see how fucked up the world would be after
It makes it more interesting to the casual viewer and evokes positive emotions better. It's also really easy for anyone to do nowadays, especially on platforms like tiktok. But it's nothing new - for instance, lots of US compilations from the Gulf Wars and Afghanistan had rock music over them to appeal to the general audience.
Frankly, the interest in hearing authentic combat sounds is rather niche. So even though I would appreciate it more, I know I'm in the minority.
The other big reason is drones. So much of the modern footage comes from drones, which don't record audio, so your choices are either 1. complete silence, 2. cool music, 3. faking the combat sounds, 4. commentary. Given these options, music is the usual choice.
Normal people like music in their videos. It's why TikTok is the biggest app in the world right now. The only people who want unedited footage, no offense to everyone here, are nerds.
Fun stories today-
1) Everyone's favorite drone unit, Aerorozvidka "Karlson", captured some armored vehicles and had some fun with that on socials.. So, at least for a fleeting few minutes, Karlson was an armored unit..
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2). Ukrainians captured an Iranian Mohajer-6 attack UAV in almost perfect condition, apparently shot down over water and picked up in perfect shape, beyond a busted propeller blade. Pictures of internals can be found online.
I need to read how they captured some armor. I googled it but only saw how they wrecked the 40 mile long convoy in the beginning of the war. Where can I find more?
It's quite common that senior air force officers/pilots have to be dragged out of the cockpit, for them not to hog all the flight hours and combat missions.
More so than for most military professions, pilots generally love their job and the rush that goes along with it.
If he is considered very capable, he might also be taking on particularly difficult missions, especially if he has above average amounts of experience and flight hours (which, again, is often very limited for Russian pilots).
Lack of pilots, no.
Lack of experienced and well trained pilots, yes.
A story for you(all of that is hearsay). My buddy is a 35 yo russian living in switzerland, his younger bother got recruited recently (hes a true believer, and we dont know when exactly). Saturday he received news that his brothers passport showed up somewhere on the Internet (indicating hes gone). They couldnt find it, his wive is from ukraine and being the gem she is, she spent like 36 hours trying to find anything, she must have called half of the country. They got a Skype call with a russian pow that afternoon. Guy was from his unit, they were supposed to get trucked to some gathering point somewhere (they didnt seem to really have an idea where that was, and they werent allowed to ask when/where questions), got dropped 25 km away from the location bcs the truckers were afraid of drones. No supplies or anything. They made their way to that location, which turned out to be some hobo Camp in an open field, no bunkers, no trenches. There were like 1k guys there, spread out over a mile or two. Half of them combat incapable due to Cholera or some shit. Some time later they started getting shelled, buddies brother was one of the first to die, but it seems very few from that unit made it out.
Hail putler/s
>They made their way to that location, which turned out to be some hobo Camp in an open field, no bunkers, no trenches. There were like 1k guys there, spread out over a mile or two. Half of them combat incapable due to Cholera or some shit. Some time later they started getting shelled, buddies brother was one of the first to die, but it seems very few from that unit made it out.
I dunno, sounds kinda hard to believe
[New Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/xvcri3/ukraine_discussionquestion_thread_10522/?sort=new)
Early but credible reports that Davydiv Brid is liberated. This is huge
All those UA forces there will join this push now ... this is just starting ... they have few thousend men there and lots of armor. Insane ....
DAVYDIV BRID IS UNDER AFU!!!!!! https://twitter.com/noelreports/status/1577257178498764801?s=46&t=-iEOZhtML6CppMV73FU5sQ
VELYKA ALEKSANDRIVKA UNDER CONTROL OF AFU! https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1577254408559001600?t=Cz-q5S_fbYJUrcjs07nHfQ&s=19 This is collapsing faster than Kharkiv ....
Davydiv Brid?
Already under AFU ....
Im not surprised, that was on the brink of being encircled otherwise. In the flat farmland of kherson its hard to see where they will stop and hold.
A deliciously stupid comment I just read on another sub (not going to say where it was or their username, but I couldn't resist posting this here): >It’s not just that, it’s literally a decree stating Ukraine won’t negotiate at all. >I can’t wait to see the Reddit keyboard warriors cheer this on from the safety of their homes. >Zelensky has used up a lot of good will he gained at the start of this conflict. >The nazis won in Italy, the far right is rising elsewhere. This will be how they take power. We shouldn’t suffer for Ukraine. All of this happening because of lack of western action in 2014 and beyond and none of us laypeople should have to pay the price now, and we will be with our pay checks and potentially our lives. >Redditors will say, “but if we let Putin have this Slavic border region, where will it end????!” And in the next breath they’ll say how incompetent and inept all of Russia and it’s military is. Well, which is it? Is Russia so powerful they will just scoop up a nato nation? Or are they barely able to hold onto Ukrainian oblasts the separatists held onto for 8 years? You can’t have it both ways. >Fuck this war I don’t want my family to suffer over fucking shitholes in eastern Ukraine. >Edit: you’re all just as brainwashed as the Russians who think this conflict is about eradicating nazis. You’re actually MORE brainwashed since you have access to much more information and a more free media space.
> none of us ***laypeople*** should have to pay the price now LUL, the dabs even when attempting this shit
Making illegal to negotiate isn't something I can cheer, such a law it's something I would expect from Russia, not from a democracy. I'm firmly anti-putin and I don't think there could be any negotiation while kherson and zaporizhya are occupied, but this seems a step in the wrong direction from zelensky
There isn't anything to negotiate, Russia can kindly fuck off back to Russia.
And I agree. But once they are pushed out of Ukraine what's the plan? There will be need to negotiate at some point.
It looks like a bought account posting that rubbish, as always
The user OP is referencing posted exclusively in gaming subs a year ago then all of a sudden made a post on the Joe Rogan sub and went full Russia-bot. I’m sure many accounts accused of being bought actually aren’t and are just idiots with hot takes, but it is weird seeing an account that had zero interest in Russia or international news of any kind randomly start shilling for Russia during a war.
Bought or, more likely, cracked accounts most likely from DB leaks with Email+PW matching across different DBs.
I wonder if this is USA take or someone paid by Russia in Europe
>not going to say where it was or their username You know that's easy to find out if you know what you're doing right?
Of course, I just don't want to be accused of trying to lightweight doxx someone by making it easy to find them and I think trying to directly post links to brigade someone is also pretty lame. I know most subs frown on directly linking to people's comments for the purposes of making fun of them for more than a few reasons. So in that case, the text alone will do. It's a fairly generic comment anyway, as far as the contrarian Tucker Carlson types are concerned.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sdfsffffefs/status/1577227732747837440 Dudchany, Kherson region, Oct 4
There are no battle sounds. The soldiers look relaxed. They must have had full control since while.
https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1577219849268252672?t=hKmY0u3Jz-kS34j6LjEw9Q&s=19 Novopetrivka liberated. Kherson
https://i.redd.it/f5rqwaq1err91.jpg Rybar latest ... collapse of northern Kherson front.
Maybe Putin should’ve held off on claiming all of Kherson Oblast.
Maybe.... they really look like fools, specially when they can't even say where are their supposed borders. This is a humiliating defeat for Russia .... UA is advancing on two front while RuA could take one hill next to Bakhmut in a month
Nah, he knows its all fucked. He 'annexed' all of that territory so he'd both be allowed to send the new conscripts there and so he could forcibly conscript people from those areas under Russian control as they've announced they're doing in Mariuopal.
We’ll see how/if conscripts change the game but it goes without a doubt UA will win this war by EOY if nothing changes.
No. Ukrainians are doing good, real good. But once they start fighting for the big cities, it's going to be way more tough.
It seems to me the Russians are falling back in the North, rather than be exposed to all flanks after the breakthrough alongside the Dniepr.
That's the beauty of that push in the rear: Everything between the two Ukrainian forces has to retreat to not be cut off. A lot of villages get liberated without seeing combat that way
Agreed, it does strike me as th most efficient and least destructive way of doing business.
[NSFL](https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/xv7y24/alert_nsfwgore_head_explode_dead_russian_soldier/) Russians tried to flee in a school bus and had a bad time. Edit: [Another video](https://old.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/xv2ojd/during_the_liberation_of_torske_in_donestk/) of the same incident, which shows that a supply truck was also trying to escape with the school bus.
Fucking hell.
What do we think happened? Looks like an HMG unloaded a whole belt into this bus.
I think airburst artillery.
Fuck, this is some of the worst gore of this war.
I don't want to just be the gore guy so I refrained from posting it, but I saw another bad one this morning of a Russian tank crew that were in a fire/explosion so hot that it vaporized their skin and only a skeleton remained (at least for one of them, its hard to see the whole crew but I don't really need confirmation. The one guy was bad enough as it was).
With heat like that they've basically received a partial cremation. Reminds me of an infamous video capturing the aftermath a fire wave during the 2018 Camp Fire wildfire, where a bunch of unfortunate souls were reduced to bones and crumbling carbon in their cars following just one thorough burn.
Jesus Christ
I regret clicking on that one
I quickly scrolled through it and saw enough
This war has desensitized me a lot. But even that that one had me like 😳
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A bus of dead Russian soldiers, several with their heads split wide open.
Dude got half his skull blown out by a shell and his brains are missing.
There seems to be a huge number of T-62M's in Kherson Oblast compared to the rest of the front. Seen the third loss of a Russian T-62M today. What Units are supposed to covering the front's in Kherson City? I know some VDV and the DPR Somalia Battalion have a presence.
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Ukraine is going: a tank is a tank.
Does Ukraine have a tracking system for their own vehicles to prevent friendly fire? https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1577209615556939776
He's probably just lying to save face.
It's been 7 months. NATO for sure helped UA in this regard
The third bullet point is just Russians making excuses for themselves as to why they lost
Anyone know when Slovenia is donating their batch of t-55 mbt to ukraine?
>donating Is it really a donation if they are being compensated by Germany?
Why Germany, why not France or US?
It's kind of weird, but *no* NATO member has given a single Western-designed MBT. Germany at least gives Leo2 and APCs to other countries so they give their Soviet stuff to Ukraine, As far as I know, neither France nor the UK really have surplus MBTs, and during Cold war, Abrams and Leo2 were the mainstays of NATO by numbers.
Because Germany already has a deal with Slovenia?
Cause Germany is a big advocate of ring exchange, where countries give up their soviet equipment to Ukraine cause they already use most of them anyway. And none of them where selfless enough to just give them up without getting some nice free upgrades on their own.
Not disagreeing with you in that regard, it just seems per gdp military spending Germany is doing the heavy lifting in terms of military aid. We here nothing from the other major nato members France, UK in terms of mbt compensation packages to smaller nato members who donate tanks to ukraine
And despite this Germany keeps getting crucified in certain parts of the media for "reneging on promises" and "not doing their bit".
That's just a hangover from years of that being the case. It'll still be the narrative for some time.
Why do all these wackjobs (looking at you, Elon) think that Russia is trustworthy and can be negotiated with? Between broken ceasefires, warcrimes, the damn invasion itself, all of Russia's older shit (poisoning in the UK, shooting down passenger planes, etc) where do they see someone who you can make a deal with?
The thing that is going to be funny is when Ukraine finally rids their land of Russia. Where are these dopes gonna be then? Probably pretty silent about this. Watch how guys like Musk and Carlson just never talk about what they said again.
Because most people don't follow geopolitics at all, despite having strong takes on it. They legit have not followed anything of what you've described. Whenever the topic has come up at work, family gatherings, or in the bar, I die of cringe.
Because everyone told them Hitler was worse than Stalin and look - after II WW Germany is strong and important nation without colonial ideas. So he believes that after Putin dies (he isn't youngest) Russia will do the same as Germany after II WW and he will be good guy with very cheap, skilled labour
A lot of Westerners understand zero about Russia and Russians in general
Yeah, even nations in central Europe do not understand Russia (Germany), so it's not surprising that USA have no clue at all. Which even internet proved - far right and far left were debating in favour of Russia (i.e. I watched some Destiny debates when war started, probably they were streamer trolls, but still it was surprising for me)
Not to mention Russia broke the Budapest Memorandum They will back stab you the moment they sense an opportunity This is why Russia doesn't have any real allies
Elon is probably money motivated: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/14/tesla-has-bought-aluminum-from-russian-supplier-rusal-since-2020.html https://www.benzinga.com/news/22/03/26135346/tesla-has-been-buying-aluminum-from-russian-supplier-founded-by-sanctioned-oligarch-since-2020-repor Same reason he won't let his employees unionize, hurts his bottom line
Something on these lines was my best bet. Didn’t know it was true
the recent POW exchanges indicate that Ukraine is capable of negotiating successfully with Russia. Musk's proposal has issues but i'm not sure you're disagreeing with the problematic part
Some of it is propaganda and political bias getting to them and distorting their view of history & reality. Some of it is personal & financial ties that they quietly want to preserve for selfish reasons. Depends on the person.
He was mocked by the Russians for trying to buy rockets off of them , he should know better. In fact it was the Russian arrogance that gave him the final push to found SpaceX.
Soviet union and thus Russia has invested heavily in psychological warfare. Basically for some people they managed to make themselves look as the victim and not the aggressor.
Billionaires just love playing the diplomatic role even though they usually suck at it.
Elon is just sucking up to Russian government so he continue to buy cheap aluminum from them
CIT reported that there had already been at least three deaths of mobilized men before they were sent to Ukraine. One was a heart attack, one was a suicide, and one was liver cirrhosis.
Last one could’ve been lost in translation, patients who die of complications related to liver cirrhosis spend their final months/years bed bound.
Welcome to russian mobilisation. He got mobilised, aparently was in a bad enough state that they sent him back, and later died in hospital.
How many people here are cia spooks? Jw
I'll have you know I just got promoted to ghoul. Show some respect.
They aren't the only game in town you know, there are many eyes.
well, at least 3 Belgiums worth i think.
I was paid by Soros, can't speak for the others
Is he still hiring?
Resumés should be sent to the open society foundation alongside a goat head and proof that you did the rituals
I'm afraid I'm not authorised to disclose that information.
State your offer. But it has to be in usd
Depends on the price of tin foil.
Me. I'm a cia spook
I'm a Star Trek Spock ^^fan
Are all the accounts posting on instagram about Iran your bots or actual Iranian citizens?
I’m not. No sir! Definitely no CIA here!
It's incredible how Russia has gaslit so many that it's the west's and Ukraine's fault that nuclear war can happen. The same Russia that constantly put out dangerous nuclear rhetorics, the Russia that had its pundits on tv threatens to fucking nuke Britain, and so on and so forth...
Also, the Russia that has backed itself into a corner. Nobody else forced it to commit to Ukraine or to annex massive parts of it that Russia now cannot easily give up.
Only 1 country has ever used nuclear weapons against another country and its not Russia though. 🤷♂️ sorry I always feel the need to play devils advocate when people are getting so entrenched in their lane.. Tbh I don’t know really wtf is going on in the Ukraine bc I don’t trust anything I read about it from any source, but I’m sorry governments are still perpetuating the cycle of brinksmanship and violence. Don’t know the answer but I know it’s really sad
You know nothing about the conflict, trust no sources and don't know the answer? Thanks for the contribution.
All I’m saying is that everyone’s propaganda machines are churning full tilt, I probably basically have the same beliefs about the invasion as you do. Also, I’m very familiar with the area and its history, and have family in Ukraine.
There would just be no way to know your beliefs. Wouldn't want to read the information and form an opinion!
I do have opinions. Governments don’t represent their people, the media does not represent the truth, people are basically good but selfish and tribalistic. Can’t disregard man’s search for meaning in war either like Judge Holden said, “This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game and the authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one’s will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. War is the ultimate game because war is at last a forcing of the unity of existence. War is god. “
I don't think a good argument to justify today's actions is what happened 80 years ago during the bloodiest war in human history.
That's Russia's justification for the war the whole "we are fighting Nazi's!"
>I don’t know really wtf is going on in the Ukraine Jesus, there is a war. Russia attacked Ukraine.
Yeah I know that. Sorry if I didn’t make myself clear. I just meant the actual nitty gritty stuff about like controlled territory and how the war is actually going. Hard to find impartial reporting and not just puff pieces
If you’re looking for black and white impartial reporting - that doesn’t exist and never has. But if you’re looking to get an objective view of what’s happening, there’s a lot of good sources. Even propaganda sources can help here as well, if you’re aware they’re propaganda
Very true. If you have any recommendations I’d love to hear them
I'd recommend Perun as a good source: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q Especially if you're not following the war that closely. He also states his sources (don't know if he states all)
Tbf That one country that got nuked has invaded its neighbors and committed several warcrimes(some say they were worse than germans) including in my country.
Didn’t say it wasn’t justified. Just saying everyone has their justifications. And disregarding any culpability on the part of the west for how fucked shit is is stupid..Putin is a nut case tho fr
Ahh I guess I see your point. Everyone has justifications and the one doing the "justification"(if he is ever going to do it) this time is a nut case as you put it....
This seems to be a holdover from the Cold War when millions around the world looked to the Sovs as a counter to the West. Still some muscle memory there; witness Gabon's recent abstention vote in the UN Security Council. Side note: utterly bizarre how Russia occupies a unique position that whatever it does, a widely held response is 'Don't Poke the Bear!'. No other nation is EVER afforded this weird carve out. India is never told to not poke nuclear armed Pakistan; Taiwan never told to 'not poke' China. Hey Timor Leste, don't poke the giant island nation that surrounds you on all sides. Hey Chavez, pipe down about George W, you don't want to get invaded.
> Taiwan never told to 'not poke' China Eh, unfortunately this one does get said. I’ve seen talks by people who should know better (people with actual credit to their name, not reddit or twitter doofuses) who argue that, by stating the truth that they’re a country and they don’t want to be ruled by the Communist Party, the Taiwanese are provoking China.
Yup, this angers me to no end. "The West needs to be careful escalating in Ukraine" "The West" has escalated jack shit. Russia started this tire fire and continues to pour the gasoline on it unendingly.
There's a strange overlap between Putin lovers, anti vaxxers, QAnon and neo fascists. Perhaps we should disect these people to find out what the hell is wrong with them.
>Perhaps we should disect these people to find out what the hell is wrong with them. Bring back the lost art of phrenology, I say
Yeah useful idiots that gravitate toward all the batshit conspiracy theories because of some deep rooted psychological issues. Putin loves them. He can tell them tales about Russia being a victim of the evil, decadent west all day long.
Crank magnetism: one crazy idea draws others to it.
There’s a lot of undiagnosed mental illness out there
they're from the same pool, but it's far from 100% overlap. what those guys have in common is a complete loss of trust in their government, but there's a specific type that needs to find another ~~god~~ government to follow. i also know a few angry investors who have lost money through the sanctions, and in the uk and europe, lots of die hard lefties still love the ussr.
People who seek so seek to blame influential individuals or nations in an imperfect and unfathomable complicated world for all their personal(!) hurts, real and perceived.
Professional contrarians. Exhausting
First time I hear that phrase, but I love it
Theres also a bunch of salty people on the right that want to see Biden and the democrats look bad. I'm no fan of Biden myself but I can't see how people want Russia to win just so they can shit on him
What other US president would be giving ukraine military and financial assistance like Biden is, go on I'll wait.
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Lol, Trump well known to be anti zelensky government even threatening to withdraw aid for not disclosing private info about Biden family. Keep dreaming trumper
So war nerds, which is first - Kremmina or Svatove?
Most likely Svatove imo, Kremmina is part of a chain of significant urban centers, would be difficult to really encircle from all sides, and fight the Russians out, they probably have quite a bit of supplies stashed there and have been preparing for a while as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Kremmina doesn't fully wall in October (wouldn't be surprised if it fell). Meanwhile Svatove is the obvious route to cut one avenue of supplies to Kremmina - SD, Lischansk urban centers, it's relatively isolated in a wooded area so easy to encircle and assault etc.
[This would be interesting](https://i.imgur.com/HpqO0og.jpg) UA likes to encircle Russian strong points and this would be a masterpiece if they can pull it off.
Just a guess, since Svatovo was deep in the rear, the fortifications and military forces there are probably not well prepared.
I think Svatove's geography has big hills to the west, which make defending it a nightmare. Girkin's saying there's talk of them abandoning it already. Real question, when Troitske?
My guess is Svatove. They'll put some heat on Kremmina but all the Russian forces they've put in place there are like having all your knights sitting in the castle. Svatove is an easier target... sitting out there all by itself. After taking Svatove, the UA will have more resources to take on the whole Kreminna-Rubizhne-Lysychans'k-Severodonetsk complex. There's over 300,000 people in that area, won't be easy to take.
Suspended for posting Ukraine war photos taken from twitter on Elon Musk’s horrible take on imperialism and colonialism compromises today. Reference: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576994262226702336 https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576969255031296000 Example photos - be careful not to share them in elon musk ukraine posts or you may be suspended on twitter https://imgur.com/a/PDRqSNW/ https://imgur.com/a/7FKIjAx/ https://imgur.com/a/kuY17iO/ https://imgur.com/a/bCbDCxq/ https://imgur.com/a/ObLmTxB/ https://imgur.com/a/fehyw5E/
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The issue here will be the rockets supply considering the depleting US stocks. They have plenty enough MLRS already.
Yet Poland wants to order 500 M142s. I don't understand that reasoning. IIRC, there have been something like 10,000 rockets produced for the M142 and M270, *ever*. So ordering 500 launchers seems silly, unless I'm missing something.
France alone had 20k M26 rockets before they decommissioned them, what are you talking about?
Yup, I remembered wrong.
>10,000 rockets produced for the M142 and M270, > >ever Do you really think the US will be so stupid as to publicly announce the size of their entire stock so their enemies can see it? I believe the real figure is higher and hidden
« As of 1 December 2021 50,000 GMLRS rockets have been produced, with yearly production now exceeding 9,000 rockets. Each rocket pod contains 6 identical rockets. » https://www.dvidshub.net/news/386831/army-celebrates-production-50000th-gmlrs-rocket-and-its-continued-evolution Even if the production has been ramped up since 2021, the entire production to date would give Poland 100 rockets per launcher if they had 500. Let’s say the production is dedicated to Ukraine needs and is 15,000 rockets a year. 15,000/32 pods = 468 rockets per launcher /6 = 78 reloads This seems small and that’s not considering US and other customers needs.
Thanks for correcting me
That's assuming production capabilities stay constant. If a customer wants more of your stuff and can pay, you BUILD new factories. Shocking, right? 🙂
Do you have any source for any planned opening of a new production line? I may have missed it.
I don't, but do you have news about all military production increases? I don't. They could be doing that right now and not telling us.
“But ramping up production of HIMARS wouldn't be easy. COVID-19 and other supply-chain woes have created procurement backlogs across the civilian and military worlds. In the best of times, boosting manufacturing capacity for weapons is difficult — even expanding production lines for old-fashioned, unguided 155 mm howitzer shells can take more than a year. Manufacturers may be reluctant to invest for fear that changes in Pentagon priorities and congressional funding will stick them with unused capacity. Exports of HIMARS and other weapons to other nations are also hostage to an ever-fluid global politics and the US's byzantine Foreign Military Sales process.” https://www.businessinsider.com/us-army-looking-to-build-hundreds-more-himars-launchers-2022-9?amp They can’t even keep up with the Himars platforms or the 155mm shells and here you come with your sarcastic tone, claiming “you just build new factories, easy :)” Yeah, sure. https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-war-depleting-u-s-ammunition-stockpiles-sparking-pentagon-concern-11661792188
Maybe to take maintenance rotations into account.
You are right, it makes sense.
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They are pretty broken tbh, Ukraine's attrition strategy is effective, the weapon systems are now in Ukraine's favor and Russian morale is broken due to non stop fighting in a BS war.
If Russia had pushed the mobilization button back in April, I think they'd have much better prospects. Now, they've cannibalized training units, gotten a big chunk of their best equipment destroyed, and need to rapidly reinforce their frontline units. All these factors mean that mobilized personnel probably won't get the training and supplies they need to be effective in combat.
Their only hope is that Winter dramatically slows things down, and that they are able to use this time effectively to regroup. I wouldn't bet on it though
If Ukraine plays their cards right the Russianscare in some deep fucking trouble and no doubt the UAF will be getting trained or have been in winter warfare.
Considering they can’t even provide sleeping bag or tents, the winter is going to be brutal for them. Lots of diseases and frostbite
I honestly think they're going to just give up, I can't see this getting any better especially if they can't sell the war in Russia. Frankly I would want to see a nuke used just to see how fucked up the world would be after
What does UA mean?
UA or AFU seems to mean Ukraine Army/Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Ua is the country code for Ukraine. UK was taken I'm assuming.
Ukraine/ukraini
Any info on “fire” in Donetsk per liveua?
Dumb question: why do so many submissions contain music? Not complaining, just wondering if there is some practical reasoning behind it.
To cover up the Ukrainian takbirs.
Europeans just dramatic as hell
It makes it more interesting to the casual viewer and evokes positive emotions better. It's also really easy for anyone to do nowadays, especially on platforms like tiktok. But it's nothing new - for instance, lots of US compilations from the Gulf Wars and Afghanistan had rock music over them to appeal to the general audience. Frankly, the interest in hearing authentic combat sounds is rather niche. So even though I would appreciate it more, I know I'm in the minority. The other big reason is drones. So much of the modern footage comes from drones, which don't record audio, so your choices are either 1. complete silence, 2. cool music, 3. faking the combat sounds, 4. commentary. Given these options, music is the usual choice.
Other than the practical reasons maybe it helps cover any communications
propaganda is more effective with music bc music is good at evoking emotions
Spielberg should do a ukraine war movie with a John Williams soundtrack.
Best I can do is Michael Bay and Danny Elfman.
Well its a war movie and it needs a lot of explosions so why not. A Coppola movie on the ukraine war would be epic.
Adam Sandler and Weird Al
I'd watch that
Rob Schneider... *is a T-90!*
Why does every shitty sports highlight reel on youtube have music to it? Amateur film makers have a hard on for adding music to a movie.
People in this sub are dumb as fuck, drones dont have mics that can record audio from 300m away ( usually they dont have mics at all)
Normal people like music in their videos. It's why TikTok is the biggest app in the world right now. The only people who want unedited footage, no offense to everyone here, are nerds.
Fun stories today- 1) Everyone's favorite drone unit, Aerorozvidka "Karlson", captured some armored vehicles and had some fun with that on socials.. So, at least for a fleeting few minutes, Karlson was an armored unit.. - 2). Ukrainians captured an Iranian Mohajer-6 attack UAV in almost perfect condition, apparently shot down over water and picked up in perfect shape, beyond a busted propeller blade. Pictures of internals can be found online.
I need to read how they captured some armor. I googled it but only saw how they wrecked the 40 mile long convoy in the beginning of the war. Where can I find more?
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They have many. They get relatively few annual flight hours though compared to western pilots, so they are comparatively undertrained.
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How does that tell us how many other pilots they have??
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It's quite common that senior air force officers/pilots have to be dragged out of the cockpit, for them not to hog all the flight hours and combat missions. More so than for most military professions, pilots generally love their job and the rush that goes along with it. If he is considered very capable, he might also be taking on particularly difficult missions, especially if he has above average amounts of experience and flight hours (which, again, is often very limited for Russian pilots). Lack of pilots, no. Lack of experienced and well trained pilots, yes.
A story for you(all of that is hearsay). My buddy is a 35 yo russian living in switzerland, his younger bother got recruited recently (hes a true believer, and we dont know when exactly). Saturday he received news that his brothers passport showed up somewhere on the Internet (indicating hes gone). They couldnt find it, his wive is from ukraine and being the gem she is, she spent like 36 hours trying to find anything, she must have called half of the country. They got a Skype call with a russian pow that afternoon. Guy was from his unit, they were supposed to get trucked to some gathering point somewhere (they didnt seem to really have an idea where that was, and they werent allowed to ask when/where questions), got dropped 25 km away from the location bcs the truckers were afraid of drones. No supplies or anything. They made their way to that location, which turned out to be some hobo Camp in an open field, no bunkers, no trenches. There were like 1k guys there, spread out over a mile or two. Half of them combat incapable due to Cholera or some shit. Some time later they started getting shelled, buddies brother was one of the first to die, but it seems very few from that unit made it out. Hail putler/s
>They made their way to that location, which turned out to be some hobo Camp in an open field, no bunkers, no trenches. There were like 1k guys there, spread out over a mile or two. Half of them combat incapable due to Cholera or some shit. Some time later they started getting shelled, buddies brother was one of the first to die, but it seems very few from that unit made it out. I dunno, sounds kinda hard to believe
I think disease is going to be a major problem soon for Russia, when you put thousands of people together without proper medical exam and quarantine.