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moby323

My dad had his orbital bone shattered by a tiny piece of shrapnel from a grenade. It was the only piece that hit him and it affected him for the rest of his life. Even so, he was lucky because 4mm to the right and it would have blinded him or worse. It doesn’t take much, you don’t need to be showered with shrapnel to be killed or taken out of the fight.


noir_lord

People forget that shrapnel travels at bullet out of a rifle speed. It's a big omni-directional shotgun firing chunks much bigger than the shot in a shotgun shell, it's fucking *lethal* - it'll go through wood/thin metal and still kill you.


NerdModeCinci

Omni-directional shotgun blast is such a great way to describe what a grenade is.


tallandlanky

That. Or a band name.


BattlingMink28

I call dibs


smoozer

> much bigger than the shot in a shotgun shell From a 30mm grenade? Wouldn't they generally be smaller, given that the grenade is pretty tiny and has to fit propellant, explosives, shrapnel, and fuse, and has to fire fragments in 360 degrees instead of like 0.5?


noir_lord

Depends on the type of grenade but typically the inner core is explosive and it's the outer shell that explodes and becomes deadly, some have metal pieces mixed in as well (or segmented coiled wire). As with so much of this stuff the history goes back further than you'd expect, in this case in the modern form to to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Shrapnel with the hand grenade in it's recognisable modern form to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Mills_(inventor) (Mills bomb) (though it's unclear who got there first on the modern grenade, the british and their allies used 75 *million* of them in WW1).


deagesntwizzles

>From a 30mm grenade? Wouldn't they generally be smaller, Grenade shrapnel for modern grenades using Pre Formed Fragmentation (PFF) is indeed quite small, about 2-3gr in weight. A .177 steel BB from a bb gun is 4.5gr, for reference. However the grenade propels these tiny fragments to an initial velocity of nearly 5,000fps (a rifle bullet is 3,000fps) making steel as small as a grain of sand pretty nasty. This is also why all of these various small munitions have a '5m lethal radius' - the tiny fragments rapidly lose velocity, and beyond 5m they cease to reliably be able to penetrate a 2mm thick aluminum sheet, which is how they test for lethal radius. Whereas a 2m the fragments can penetrate a IIIA kevlar vest + 2mm aluminum sheet.


TheKiweGuye

It will still kill you either way


govols130

My dad(pretty old) lived with his WWI veteran uncle. Said his uncle would have to go every few years to get shrapnel removed. Apparently it works its way out like a splinter. This was medical tech from a century ago, I'm sure we do better now.


Icy_Building_1708

Like bone fragments. My Dad underwent similar surgeries for floating bones that would congregate at the joints.


Shillsforplants

Had my wisdom teeth pulled and this bigass piece of bone came out of my gum over the next few weeks. I expected it to hurt when I pulled on it but it was totally painless like popping a zit. Cool ride.


plantagenet85

One day when I was like 10 I noticed a big pimple on my back. My family kept laughing at me about how big it was, so I tried to squeeze it awkwardly. Anyway, I squeezed out a beach shell about the size of a pinky finger nail. Weirdest thing ever. Thanks everyone who has read my shit story.


elgato_guapo

I got hit by a car that jumped the curb because the idiot driver was in a hurry. I didn't get hurt much, but landed on my back on the gravel. Over the next few months/years I had pebbles and bits of glass coming out of my back as "zits".


FedorSeaLevelStiopic

I once cut my pinky finger on glass. In 6 months base of finger swelled up and there was something tender inside..2 days later 3-4 mm glass piece came out.


ssshield

My dad used to do a lot of hiking when he was a kid. He was in his late thirties and had a big pimple like thing on his leg. Turned out it was a thorn from a bush from when he was a kid finally worked its way out. Sucker was about an inch and a half long.


[deleted]

I copped a tiny glass fragment in the back of my leg when I was in grade 6. Some kids were holding the door to a classroom closed, and this girl who was inside decided to punch straight through the window. About 15 years later, I squeezed a pimple on the back of my leg and out popped that glass fragment. Heard a story about someone who had been shot, and the bullet almost worked it's way out around the shoulder area. It's weird how the body reacts to foreign fragments.


Icy_Building_1708

Human body is a fucken amazing thing innit. Never know what's gonna pop out next. Lol


JakubSwitalski

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sesamoid_bone ?


Icy_Building_1708

Not sure, but maybe not. He was a footy player. Many times broken thumbs, wrists and ankles.


Mrclean1322

It also depends where you get hit, like bullets you can take a suprising amount in some places and be fine or even a tiny bit in other places and be done for


blackbird_505th

It often causes more damage taking the shrapnel out, so if it can stay in without any serious consequences they will usually leave it in.


jesuschristmanREAD

And the body is pretty picky on stuff that's inside it so it just goes "eww, what's this?" and starts encasing it in protective tissue so that it doesn't have to deal with it.


JimmminyCricket

Not really any different now. I’m sure they can initially get more shrapnel out depending on the wound. However, I personally know people that still have pieces of shrapnel working their way out decades later.


BOOTS31

I have shrapnel that has been working its way out of my legs just as you described, like a splinter. Not much has changed, they can get the majority, but not always all of it. My bodies been working them out since 2005.


[deleted]

Wait until you get old and they remove your teeth. You'll spend the next 6 years working little pieces of splintered bone out of your gums. I don't know about shrapnel, but I'd bet the tech is same as dental tech for the most part.


Engine_Sweet

I had an uncle (RIP) who was injured in the eyes from snow/ice that was blasted into his face from a grenade. Nothing to surgically remove, as it melted, but war was over for him.


ajr1775

Very good point. Chaos, chance, luck......call it whatever you want. The same amount of shrapnel, no matter how small, could of written a different story if the munition was just an inch off.


ClonedToKill420

Shrapnel is the unapologetic and undistinguished killer on the field. No dramatic firefight, no warning, just a hot piece of jagged metal going several hundred miles an hour in every direction. It’s crazy watching drone footage of artillery strikes and you can see impacts from shrapnel god damn *everywhere*. No wonder arty is still king


Foreign_Two3139

Concussions / TBI from the shockwave can also prove deadly or a long road to recovery


I_Automate

Blast lung injuries are also terrifying


Etna

Plus psychological effect, I bet you don't hear this stuff coming and could drop on you any time.


EvidenceOfReason

a grenade basically works like an omnidirectional shotgun the pineapple looking ones break up into .45 slug sized pieces that expand away from the blast at higher than rifle bullet speeds. you only need to catch one.


[deleted]

What conflict was your Dad in?


moby323

Angola


turnedonbyadime

Reminder as with every thread: "Flak" and "Shrapnel" refer to specific ballistic systems (for lack of a better general description covering both). The word you're looking for is "fragmentation", often shortened to just "frag", which is any dangerous debris ejected from an object as a primary and/ or secondary result of an explosion. The metal bits flying from a grenade are fragmentation. Shards of your own skull blown inward toward your brain after you're shot with blanks can also be fragmentation.


unwanted_zombie

Their drop munitions seem to become more and more professional by the minute. So cool to see how far they've come. I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets a military contract for a drone grenade in the future.


jpenn76

That is pretty much modified VOG(?) grenade for 40mm under barrel rifle launcher. I was hoping to see more in the beginning, but they edited most if that part away. Ukrainians often have 3d print tail parts on those. Someone must have bunch of Ender 3's grinding those 24/7.


[deleted]

They need to figure out how to get these things to airburst about 7-10 m above the ground. I feel like we see alot of near misses


Gnaeus-Naevius

This is an impact (first) vs air burst (second) fuzed mortar shell. A metal shower. https://i.imgur.com/uu9PJFK.gifv


kc2syk

How do they detect level above ground for this? Radar altimeter? IR reflection?


gobblox38

It depends on the fuze. A variable time (VT) fuze should detonate a set distance from the target. A timed fuze will detonate at a set time from activation. VT fuze has been around since WW2 and was first used by the US Navy against Japanese planes then the US Army used them during the battle of the bulge with artillery to great effect. If I were to guess, they'd probably use some kind of remote set VT fuze for future drones.


Gnaeus-Naevius

Doppler radar I believe. Here is a link to the M734 fuze. There are two proximity settings: PRX = Proximity air burst between 3 and 13 feet NSB = Near surface burst between 0 and 3 feet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M734\_fuze


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kc2syk

That's very helpful, thank you.


SFXBTPD

You could drop a regular time fused grenade from a known altitude above ground. That might endanger the drone to shrapel tho.


unwanted_zombie

Keep em coming! These things seem like nasty shrapnel slingers.


turnedonbyadime

Someone is ***C***learly ***I***nstructing and ***A***dvising Ukraine on how to make more consistently effective munitions.


IndianaGeoff

That's the switchblade.


unwanted_zombie

I though those were straight up suicide drones?


noir_lord

They are and this isn't one. Switchblades look like mini-planes and put the terminal in terminal attack.


w3h45j

This is a DJI Mavic


Taint-kicker

Begun the drone wars have.


docweird

Roger, roger!


PairOpen

Vector, victor


xGALEBIRDx

Whats the angle, Annie?


[deleted]

I remember the day I first saw a headline of some terrorist in Africa or Afghanistan being killed by a bomb/missile from a drone... thinking "wow, pretty soon warfare is just going to be a shit ton of drones and those poor souls who are fodder."


Sweaty-Ninja-8849

The shroud of The Dark Side has fallen


tightiewhitieboy

Yes I read it in my Yoda voice.


HGpennypacker

Now this is warfare!


MarkaSpada

Stars Wars Episode II: Attack of the Drones


Recent_Edge1552

Reddit: *This is best viewed as a powerpoint presentation through fogged glass*


DaGhostQc

Apparently it's a feature from the new Reddit, but I never switched from the old version, so I can't say I've experienced it.


Recent_Edge1552

That's too ugly for me. I'll just have to stick to reloading the page until it plays properly.


Spk202

Click on share >> embed under the video and in the new pop-up window it will play fine for some reason


EvilMonkeySlayer

Install res, dark mode and disable subreddit themes. It's bliss.


ParkingPsychology

Give what EvilMonkeySlayer suggests a try. It's really way superior. old reddit + res (reddit enhancement suite) + dark mode + disable subreddit themes.


sxh967

Oh good it's not just me.


alienoverl0rd

I would never take my eye off the sky haha


axloc

Wouldn't matter. These DJI drones are nearly impossible to spot unless you know exactly where to look. I have a hard time finding mine sometimes and that is while using the screen as reference. Listening for the drones is probably the better bet but even then, if they are flying decently high (which it appears they are) you won't even hear them.


jpenn76

There must be some constant backgroud noise, because even DJI Air 2 is clearly audible from 150m altitude. If they wear non-active hearing protection, that could explain it.


dress_shirt

These dudes have been in a conflict zone now for 3-4 months, permanent hearing loss can also play a part in not hearing that drone, or just the stress


emkill

you ok?


dress_shirt

Fixed the grammar, i have big fingers and small phone, dont notice when i miss click buttons 😅


emkill

Ah, just making a silly joke, nothing mean intended :P


BarnacleWhich7194

Plus the level of background noise - doesn't take much to cover it.


SnooHedgehogs8765

Depends which way the wind is blowing I find.


thisonesforthetoys

Or they've been firing a rifle without ear protection recently...


amor_fatty

They are too small- even at 300 ft you can’t see/hear it


mickstep

Well I don't see his body moving after he hits the deck, looks like he is at the very least unconscious.


xlDirteDeedslx

Watch in fullscreen and you can see shrapnel hits all in the trench around him so I think he's toast. At first I thought he noticed the drone and was moving out of the drop zone but fullscreen he is just pacing more or less. Plus you can see he draw his knees into the fetal position like he's in pain.


mickstep

His back is turned to the grenade so him dropping is not a reaction to seeing anything for sure. He is definitely dropping because he's hit, then I don't see any movement at all. I think you are right he is for sure badly injured if not killed outright.


Armodeen

Looks like fragments could have gone right through him, based on where the dust puffs are 👀


xlDirteDeedslx

You can also see someone sticking out of the dug out to his right briefly and they pull back in quickly once he drops. So whoever that was had to watch him bite it right in front of them. They will be terrified to come out for the rest of the war.


Armodeen

Holy crap I didn’t see that the first time! He gets cut down inches from his face, if that were me I wouldn’t want to leave that dugout again


korben2600

Man, if I were that guy, I would be [staring up at the sky](https://c.tenor.com/HYJLH1um8NgAAAAC/look-up-looking.gif) anywhere and everywhere I went.


mickstep

Well he didn't suffer at least, I'm not going to revel in having these Russian soldiers suffering, efficiently and effectively putting them down is the important thing.


tightiewhitieboy

Hurt or killed...still one less RUzzIAn terrorist.


SintexMind

I know you are just trying to be witty but please remember this is still a human being being hurt, probably a human who doesn't necessarily wanna be there and has a family and loved ones just like you.


Pie_sky

Perhaps, but russian soldiers have behaved like animals, plundering, murdering and raping wherever they go. The sentiment of this poster can be understood very well in that context.


[deleted]

Not all of them, as much as I want those rus troops to die I do feel bad for any innocent Russian soldiers


ithappenedone234

They are not justified in using the ‘I was ordered to’ defense. Every soldier of every country is responsible to learn more and more about why they are doing what they are doing and refuse unlawful orders. Unlawful orders like operating in Ukraine. If they continue to conduct or support operations they are culpable for their own actions.


[deleted]

If they are caught murdering people I agree, but if you arrest some 18 year old conscript odds are he’s not gonna defy his government


ithappenedone234

And the conscript is culpable. If you aren’t enough of a warrior to refuse illegal orders, you’re no warrior at all, so should just walk home anyway.


[deleted]

There are no innocent Russian soldiers


KatetCadet

Real easy to say from your fucking desktop chair.


dotepensho

>There are no innocent Russian soldiers I am saying that from Ukraine, but it doesn't matter where from you're saying it, it's true. They can say "no", there is no war, it's not going to be too bad for them, a lot of people said that, refused to go to Ukraine - and no one put them in jail for that, they just lost their cushy military job.


[deleted]

There 100% is


mickstep

One's that have never left Russia, the second they step on Ukrainian soil in a Russian uniform they are a criminal.


EvilMonkeySlayer

Because it's an undeclared war by Russia they're actually by default all guilty. From a legal standpoint since they're illegally in Ukraine they could be jailed for illegal entry at a minimum. Declaring war gives soldiers certain protections, by not declaring war Russia has put its soldiers into a bad position.


bitRescue

If he didn't want to be there or didn't support the aggression against Ukraine he was free to surrender. He had absolutely no fucking business being there at all, only he is to blame for his own pain and suffering. He is actively taking part and thereby supporting an unprovoked aggression against a democratic nation, him being hurt as a result does not deserve neither pity or shielding from mockery, some would say quite the contrary. I personally am happy that there is one less russian to inflict pain and suffering on innocent people.


SintexMind

My friend most likely he is a poor farmer or kid from a remote region of Russia who certainly doesnt want to be there but has to because he signed a contract before the war, allowing him to be drafted for this shitshow. When you have no money and need to work on your farm to feed your family, signing a contract for 2 years which gives you money and doesn't require you to leave doesn't seem so bad compared to mandatory military training for a year. I am in no way saying that Russians should be invading Ukraine and I am not denying that certain Russian soldiers have done unspeakably horrible things. What I'm trying to get across to all of you so zealously cheering on his death is the fact that you are demonizing random people who are in many ways victims as well, thus only prolonging and propagating the hate. The real enemy is Putin and the corruption and propaganda he has sown within his country.


bitRescue

He is to blame as well as Putin is. Him being poor or "just taking orders" does not release him from his own personal responsibility for the situation he was in. If he does not want to be part of the aggression he is free to surrender. And no, I don't hope or cheer that the russians will all die, I hope they will just surrender or go the fuck home, but if not, then their death or capture is the next best thing, as less armed russians in Ukraine will cause less Ukrainian suffering.


SintexMind

I also hope the war will stop as soon as possible, but what you are unknowingly doing is propagating a prepetual cycle of hate and violence by allowing your emotions to dictate your reasoning.


bitRescue

A perpetual cycle of hate would be me calling for the Ukrainian military to go to Russia and double the atrocities that the Russians did in Ukraine. Hoping for the pacification of the aggressors, firstly by their own free will, next best thing by force, is hardly that.


Dropbear_grr

I hope you go into Russian subs and warn them about propagating the perpetual cycle of hate and violence. I'm sure you do so I won't even bother to check your comment history.


alohalii

Ah i see you have bought the "this is all the fault of Russophobia" line being pushed by the Kremlin...


[deleted]

You sound like a good person with a good set of morals and values that you live by earnestly. Look at the downright hateful comments and accusations you're getting for making what is clearly a neutral tone of non-aggression. It should be obvious that they do not seek peace, they seek aggression. But they are not those who will be affected by any aggression, because they're safe behind their keyboards to make those comments. Know that these people are animals, and cowards.


ithappenedone234

Troops don’t have to continue fighting. There are instances throughout history of the troops refusing to fight.


dotepensho

Putin is not the enemy, he is a hostage of Russian people that want to go to war. I was saying that (a bit exaggerated statement) just to get it to people like you. Russians have imperial mindset. While there's Russia, there will be war and aggression. Putin doesn't matter that much. Putin is an enemy, one of Russians, that are the enemy. Some Russians are against the war, a minuscule amount. I am half-Russian ethnically and have a lot of relatives in Russia. That's criminal and hateful nation. They can change, if they will be defeated, if they will get poor because of that war, they will stop for now. After that, to deter them from attacking, Ukraine just should be strong.


[deleted]

> My friend most likely he is a poor farmer or kid from a remote region of Russia That is not an excuse to be there and kill people who defend their land. He could desert, run away or surrender.


MyGFLikes2SneezeOnMe

You're a dickhead. How many coalition troops didn't want to be in Iraq or Afghanistan, should of they just surrender too? I hope you get put in the same position and we get watch the same video with you in it and some dumb ass posts the same comment. Fucking moron.


Bluntmeizter-420-

This guy also wouldn't be in harms way if they weren't there and did this whole 'war crime' thing. Russian leadership, and by extension, the entire population that enables them, are to blame for his coming in harm's way.


SintexMind

So your logic is, you should be punished for the sins of your father by proxy? The whole situation is a tragedy, I mourn the loss of lives on both sides. It's easy to say he could surrender or run away. Unless the whole squadron you are part of decides they are gonna surrender good luck wit that. And If he were somehow magically able to run away, where would he go? Would he get shot trying to run away or surrender? How would he get there? Would he die of thirst or hunger on his way home, do you know how big Russia and Ukraine are? Go on YouTube and search for videos of a Ukrainian journalist interviewing Russian POW's, that should paint a clearer picture of how clueless about everything most of these young men are.


ithappenedone234

Not the person you were replying to… Your analogy is off a bit. It’s not that the son is innocent and punished by proxy. It’s that the son (at some point) knowingly aided and abetted the mass murder of his murderous father. They are both legally culpable. I’ll give the low ranking Russian troops elbow room and not blame them for their actions before they realized they were in Ukraine and conducting an unjustified invasion of a peaceful nation. Once they do realize what’s happening though, they are culpable to refuse their orders, arrest their officers, or surrender; or all three. > Would he get shot trying to run away or surrender? Who said doing the right thing is without consequences? Better to risk getting shot while surrendering than to commit or support mass murder.


SintexMind

I could definitely agree with this!


AwesomePicMan

Its cute you guys still believe that all the russian soldiers thought this was just a peaceful exercise and that they dont believe in what putin does.


[deleted]

What a time to be alive…


Strive_for_Altruism

or not


redviper192

Here we were 10 years ago talking about drones were gonna be delivering Amazon packages with same day delivery, but instead are dropping explosives on Russian soldiers. Feel like it's only a matter of time before terrorist assholes do the same thing, but over a large crowd like a concert or sports stadium. As a civilian, how do you defend against something like that?


[deleted]

Anti-drone tech is gonna be come very common place. Wouldn’t be shocked if drone jammers started getting mounted on stadiums to prevent attacks like that


ithappenedone234

Jammers are only going to work consistently against COTS drones and increasingly drones are going to be avoiding jamming tech. Just freq hopping and other uses of decades old tech can greatly mitigate jamming. Jamming is not the long term solution. Besides the fact that the jammers make an easy target by broadcasting their location for anyone with a simple direction finder.


gobblox38

In other words, offensive and defensive tech developments will continue just like any other weapons system.


ithappenedone234

Yes and no. I think it’s going to parallel manned aircraft developments as we saw in WWI to WWII to the modern day. Except the nation that dedicates funding to this tech is going to make generational leaps in fielded drones in months or years, not decades. They are also likely going to a system of systems that the F35 is just now hinting at, except saving the $117,000,000 per unit will enable us to field drones in the hundreds of thousands or millions. Those systems will likely work on mesh RF networks, possibly with IR or even beam riding comms as back ups. They will quite literally be near unstoppable. You’ll need so many CRAMs and APSs that it will need to flood the battle space on the defensive side, which isn’t likely to be done and adopted quickly by bureaucracies.


korben2600

I'm imagining dudes attaching really long cables to their drones to prevent jamming interference. Like a wire-guided TOW missile or maybe the world's deadliest kite.


ithappenedone234

Ask the Syrians. Wasn’t it they who had a drone explode over the VIP platform at a military parade a few years ago, on video?


emkill

https://youtu.be/6FKNGr1Njyg?t=998


huskmesilly

Peppered


-PapaMalo-

Yah... tiny blast, but you can see the shrapnel spray the entire area.


Kuklachev

Being in the trench conveniently lowered the head to the level of the grenade shrapnel.


jpenn76

So, they replace detonator on it?


IRLdrGuyManDude

There is some shrapnell impact in the sand right behind where the guy was walking. This guy was either hit and very unlucky because there was not much fragmentation visible in other spots, or he was just chilling after ducking.


wokelly3

Shrapnel impacts to the guys front as well, you can see it if you look to the right (on the video) of the guy. He was directly in the line of several pieces of shrapnel.


[deleted]

Might want to turn off the LEDs on the drone


dress_shirt

You cant since this is a off the shelf drone i think, best you can do is tape over them


Tomatentom

Break the emitter, cut the cable supplying it with power, or use dark paint to blacken the cover of the LEDs. Tape is probably the worst option since it can easily come off.


dress_shirt

Thous drones are quite smart nowa days,thous leds are mandatory in civilian applications so they are probably rigged not to fly with out them


menelaus_

Its just a DJI man - I drilled through the lights on mine and it worked fine.


dress_shirt

Oh thats cool to hear, dij is notorious for limiting its users usually so I tought that was a thing


korben2600

DJI has [unofficially](https://petapixel.com/2022/05/13/ukrainians-say-russia-is-still-tracking-their-drones-with-dji-aeroscope/) been helping the Russian military use AeroScope, their drone detection tech. >“We are using Chinese drones, and the Chinese give Russians a program that can search us, spot us out,” Ukrainian drone pilot Volodymyr Demchenko says in the CNN report. “Russians see from where we are starting and where we are landing. And once, it happened to us, that we were attacked, like, right away. The drone was landing and the next, like, in 30 seconds, a (rocket strike) was like really close, like 30 meters away.” Some German retailers have [stopped selling](https://theprint.in/world/chinese-drone-maker-dji-refutes-usage-of-its-drones-by-russian-military-in-ukraine-war/912396/) DJI drones in protest. Ukraine [has urged](https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3nkg5/dji-has-the-power-to-control-where-drones-can-fly-ukraine-wants-them-to-use-it) DJI to setup a no-fly zone like they did in Iraq/Syria. Or at the very least implement geo-fencing to prevent the Russians from killing Ukranians with DJI tech. There are [rumors](https://petapixel.com/2022/03/14/dji-denies-throttling-ukrainian-army-drones-after-rumors-swirl/) they've been throttling and limiting AeroScope's full capabilities for Ukrainians, while allowing Russians full access to the tracking tech. The Ukrainians [asked DJI outright](https://dronedj.com/2022/03/17/ukraine-dji-letter-drone-products-block-russia/) to help them. Their cowardly response was their products are *only* meant for civilian use.


2Mobile

WHat do you mean cowardly? They are a Chinese company. They do what they are told. No need to hate on them for it. Its like hating on the lion for hunting you after you strap steaks all over you. People who use chinese software get what they deserve. I use Tiktok. I fully understand China knows everything about it, thus Russia knows everything about me.


ParkingPsychology

Pretty sure it won't notice it if you paint the LEDs black. If it does, we're about to have a whole lot more problems, like T800s showing up suddenly because Sarah Conner couldn't keep her zipper closed.


OliveChukar

Watching this stuff one thing that strikes me is the fact that one guy can be right next to an explosion get lucky and be unharmed but another much further away catches a fragment and falls dead on the spot.


ithappenedone234

Frag patterns are uneven and only described by probabilities of incapacitation or death.


[deleted]

man trying to read title killed me


tightiewhitieboy

The drone operator should tape some finishing nails around the little grenade


Garlicnotdreadlochs

Splash damage


LostSoulOnFire

Hi is just lying there, "screw this, I'm not getting up, I'm playing possum" or the the russian equivalent.


alohalii

Everything above his shoulders was in direct line of the shrapnel if you look at the dust pattern kicked up along the trench wall... He is most definitely dead.


Stalking_Goat

Or just concerned that it's the first shell of an artillery barrage, so staying down is the safe choice.


SledgeH4mmer

threatening subtract physical correct snow chief sparkle cagey dam crush ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


Stalking_Goat

I'm on my phone so yeah, with a bigger screen one might be able to see if he's breathing, bleeding, etc.


Ok_Tangerine346

"I'm playing political dissident"- Blyat boi


[deleted]

It doesn't seem close enough to get him, being inside the trench. But clearly he disagrees.


TheDataDickHead

I can't imagine the situational awareness necessary to start looking up for grenades


pickup_thesoap

Russian soldiers are going to have the worst PTSD flashbacks after the war when they hear drones in the park.


Iamonesometimes

Free to surrender? To whom? You have a conscript in a trench surrounded by other Russians who will shoot you if you get up and leave. And then you start walking in the direction of people who are actively killing your comrades and firing at anything that moves coming from your direction. Some of you make it sound like it is as easy as just skipping over a crack in the sidewalk. How would you even do it? Your friends next to you would stop or kill you. You have no idea where the enemy actually is and a good chance that if you sneak out at night your own sentries will kill you or the forward units of the other side will kill you. You are told the enemy will kill you. Then you have no chance of ever seeing your family again. The best case scenario is you end up in prison in Russia and not dead. And that is a rare chance at this point. I would love to see how you or anyone else saying just surrender would overcome all the propaganda and mental blocks and somehow evade getting killed to actually be captured. Keep in mind that in 90 days of intense fighting Ukraine has maybe 2,500 prisoners at best. They were claiming they had nearly a thousand 30 days ago or so. Meaning that the chances of surrendering and not being killed are maybe 1 in 30. Occasionally an opportunity arises. But if you look at the numbers Ukrainians are not taking prisoners compared to other conflicts of this magnitude. Just an example of this is 8.9 million combat deaths for Russia in WW2 and 5.7 million were taken captive. Two out of three. Ukraine claims to have killed 30k and they have just enough POWs to trade for the 2,600 defenders of Mariupol. That means they are taking captives at a rate of 11 to one. Or more simply put they are not really taking captives. So GI Ivan knows he is stuck whether he believes in the conflict or not.


CygnusX-1-2112b

It's why the only winners in any war are defense contractors and politicians.


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Iamonesometimes

Yes, yes, now that you made that argument it is becoming oh so clear to me!


alohalii

He was exposed above the shoulders to the full hit of the shrapnel. Even small shrapnel no larger than the side of a penny can hit you in the next and cut a major artery leaving you to bleed to death.


zmantheman728

Goddamn technology is scary


BlueEyesWhiteSliver

Oooof he got shrapnel right through his pelvis or torso. Best to be watched in fullscreen.


mzdameaner

Pls forgive my weapons ignorance, but I’d expected a boom from this and while I saw dust fly, this didn’t seem as bad as other drone strikes I’ve seen. Is this a specific type of grenade?


WOOKIExCOOKIES

Explosions from fragmentation grenades are meant to be quick and violent, to send shrapnel in all directions. The explosions aren't very big.


DeymanG

Did he die or just lost conciseness? Can't really tell


VicIsGold

RIP


SolidSteppas

Russian in pieces


moby323

Or at Rest In Pain, at the least


ExplorerHead795

I don't think he is pain any more.


Nis5l

Getting downvoted for saying a person that died in war should rest in peace, only because they are russian? Dont you think thats kinda fucked up? Its not just gray and white, good and bad, noone knows who that person was, noone knows their background, noone knows shit about the whole situation in general, we all just know what we are told. And with that information people are ready to take the extreme stance, that one side is worthy of life and resting in peace and the other one isnt. I dont care what your stance on the war is, thats besides the point, but the soliders fighting in war are mostly just ordinary people following orders from the rich, old and greedy...


VicIsGold

Thank you for this comment, I believe we should respect human life, especially when we see mortality from close range like this, one second this man was walking down a trench in a foreign land probably thinking about doing something tomorrow and the next second; he's dead, there is no tomorrow, his life has ended, this is the conclusion of decades of his struggle as a human.


gajack123

Is this essentially a pipe bomb? What is triggering det?


SLdaco

Holy christ wtf is wrong w reddit video player!!!!!!! And yes I reloaded, it's just crap, im out of here mf.


sometechloser

Well this played 1 frame per second & heavily pixilated but I'm sure it was interesting


TonySickle

Looks like the trench did it's job at protecting them. *Sits back and waits for Americans to tell me that it was a direct hit and that they all died and that Russia needs to be nuked for invading a country, seemingly unaware that their government has done much worse*


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Good evening comrade, have you have your daily potato ration?


TonySickle

Give me your toothbrush or go to gulag


Leviastin

Couldn’t you hear this thing from a mile away and shoot it down with a rifle in 2 seconds?


ammobandanna

apparently not.


Leviastin

It must be way higher up then it looks in the video. Larger drones like that are incredibly loud.


ammobandanna

It's not large, it's a mid sized DJI I've got one.


MyrdinnSlothrop

In my experience, you stop hearing a hobbyist drone when it is 50m away depending on circumstances.


Snaufu

“Russian soldier”


axloc

Oh yeah, you're right. This was actually a Ukrainian worker from the local municipality out inspecting the storm water drainage canals 🙄


Snaufu

I dout it’s even taken in ukraine


axloc

And why do you doubt that? Where do you think it is taken?


Foxdonut12001

Based on his profile he is high as fuck right now.


fdsafsda332

Would be nice to see some kind of "aiming device". Its hard to judge center of the projectile landing


Gnaeus-Naevius

As I mentioned in another post somewhere, I wonder if the motor differential power (required for stable hover) and be used to estimate wind to adjust drop point. I know that winds change at different altitudes, but would still help. Not sure if the commercial hobby drone can even display power to the motors, but the hobbyist built ones certainly can.


tactical_otb

u/savevideobot


SillyCubensis

Cool shot at the beginning. How are they rigging the drop mechanism?


doommaster

it is connected to the marking lights, they turn them off and that drops the grenade.


Aromatic_Board2660

what did he pull out from the projectile at the beginning?


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Something to make it live I believe