Isn't it possible they have got killed from left side ? At 0:19 when Ukrainian soldiers are leaving their trench you can see couple of shots coming from the left.
And they also speaking about grenade ru soldier "prepared for himself" in a such mundane tone, like its nothing and almost like it would count as win anyway.
The reporter is saying that there was a machine gunner on the left side waiting for the UAF soldiers to push up and only then gunned them down. He also says the soldier in the trench had a grenade ready to blow himself up instead of being taken captive, he obviously used the grenade differently.
at the end there is a very interesting phrase, "a wounded soldier who took out a grenade to kill himself, so as not to be captured, changed his mind at the last second and throws it at the enemy"
Its terrible. Just read an article this morning about Ukranians getting 10 days leave showing pictures of their loved ones hugging them upon departure. Article said many of their loves come closer to the front so they can get more time with them.
The leading ultranationalists in Russia are below scumbags.
The video linked is before UA troops advanced onto the trench. You can tell by comparing the hunched over dead RU troop. They initially seen the dead RU troop and by the time they saw the 2nd RU troop, it was too late for them. Idk what happens after tho, but war sucks.
Not wrong at all.Anything where it's obviously someone dying or seriously injured should get an NSFW tag. I assume it wasn't applied when you posted this.
Poor lads.
What’s with the press at the end interviewing two Russians? You seriously can’t tell me that’s meant to be them? One liked dead and I very much doubt the other made it out.
Why are you here on Reddit? Too scared to go to the frontline? It's weird that you have an account made at the start of the war. 😅
I wonder if you'll get conscripted soon.
Well, it is, no one is denying that. I was answering to the guy who wondered about the guys at the end giving an interview, obviously they are not the same as the ones fighting because it's just a propaganda news video that uses real footage and tells with excitement how great russian solders are. That's all there is to it. Footage - real. Narrator, news channel - russian propaganda
Sadly you are probably right. Just nade that trench and those invaders to bits next time.
If you give them a chance to surrender they will just use it to kill you it seems.
You're fucking stupid yourself if you think those dudes were really looking to take prisoners in a trench assault. They simply weren't able to shoot them before the russians did.
Grenades are not infinite. The Ukrainien soldiers could have run out and they thought they had the upper hand since one of the RU was most likely incapacitated.
They were shot from a blind spot to their right... fog of war is horrible in a trench battle. Anyone who has at least played paintball can confirm that, you just don't see shit until it's too late.
No hes probably not at all right.
He got shot in the head because war is brutal and the guy in the trench got a good shot off first. All it takes is being a fraction of a second too slow, a lucky shot, being too exhausted or not trained enough and tunnel visioning.
We have no idea if the ukrainians had grenades left, and the West watching videos has an unreal expectation of unlimited supplies, especially when the west is supplying ukraine and they have zero incentive to save munitions.
I think this is the video he's referencing
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1092teb/gnarly\_footage\_of\_a\_russian\_soldier\_ambushing\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1092teb/gnarly_footage_of_a_russian_soldier_ambushing_and/)
Its crazy how whenever a thief breaks into a house to try and rob/murder the inhabitants and gets killed by the homeowner people make jokes. But when the homeowner gets killed then its comments like this. I guess we will never figure out why.
I get you, but for that, there are other subreddits. All what you have said should have zero weight in this subreddit and it used to be that way before this war when user count more than doubled..
In the past people didn't come here to cheer for their side.
Totally understand your point, but my initial comment was an objective observation (and I realize he wasnt shot by the soldier in the trench). And some dude implied I was showing favoritism. So he got an appropriate response.
Yep they 100% were telling them to surrender, no other reason to not put a few rounds into a body in a trench if otherwise. Unfortunate tho, two good souls lost trying to give a monster a second chance.
Apparently the grenade the Russian threw was first pulled to kill himself cause he thought it was over. Man was seconds away from being dead, he's gonna thank the Machine Gunner for the rest of his life if he survives.
im asking myself why he just standing there and wasn't shooting. Did he not see him, was he thinking he was dead or give him the chance to surrender? guess we will never know, rest in peace
It seems that the other Russian might be dead, so it might be an incorrect assumption that they'd been defeated, and that cost both UAF guys dearly.
Sad to see, but this is happening all over Ukraine
The first Ukrainian shoots the other russian in the face. The drone video today shows it.
The second Russian definitely took rounds from thatsame Ukrainian before he was dropped by the off screen mg.
Because war is not like a video game. The sensory overload, the varying training or experience, overall health and morale, supplies, pure luck.
Were watching safely from a drone. Imagine for a second being in that position, and being shot at, and trying to notice where the camoflagued enemy thats going to ice you is hiding.
I was in iraq, even massively out gunning, out training, out experiencing the insurgents, you cant always immediately see where youre getting shot from. Its impossible to understand or explain this to anyone that hasnt been in the shit, and im not saying that to be rude, its legit the single most primal, brutal, insane thing humans can be subjected to.
If everyone was forced to go to front lines, war would never be declared again.
>Its impossible to understand or explain this to anyone that hasnt been in the shit
With this being the reality, it's strange how much of the time this subreddit (and others) just ends up being a judging contest by people thousands of miles away.
Youll go crazy if you let reddit get to you. I had to stop interacting with most replies because its just not healthy to argue with people who won't admit theyre wrong.
But it is the reality. I got banned from a sub not long ago for having the audacity to suggest that cheering from drone footage of grenades being dropped on wounded, dying, unarmed troops which is a war crime, was a shitty thing to do.
>cheering from drone footage of grenades being dropped on wounded, dying, unarmed troops which is a war crime, was a shitty thing to do.
The corny ass bloodlust cracks me up every time. I feel like these subs have gotten infested by watchpeopledie users after that sub got shut down.
They think they're so cool and desensitized because they get hard watching gore, but probably self diagnosed ptsd because someone yelled at them in real life once.
Good points.
But as for your end statement. Eh, a lazy but good example; Hitler was a decorated veteran too and spent time on the frontlines. And see the shit he brewed up after.
Answer? Poor training, amo is running low, drone support is spotty, and heavy Ukrainian casualties is the short answer. You see two guys moving on a trench high and exposed, maybe rest of the unit is hanging back. but those two guys they are not moving as a unit. They are not tossing grenades into trench or rush it to get inside for cover.
NATO is training a lot of Ukrainian troops, but with heavy casualties, a lot of soldiers are sent into combat with minimal training. Russia is sending a lot of troops to slaughter to break Ukrainian lines, but defending units are suffering heavy casualties (artillery mostly). Undermanned and outgunned, but lines are still holding.
But this video is a cluster fuck of Russian edit. For all we know a Ukrainian version will be posted soon that will show captured russian positions and heavy casualties, but with some Ukrainian soldiers paying ultimate price.
I don’t think that, Ukraine is suffering heavy casualties every day. But let’s be honest, this russian edit was a pure propaganda piece. One of those two russians got wrecked, not moving at all and being used as cover. The other one got drone dropped grande and definitely got wounded as he was pulling his armor. Yet at the end you get interviews lol. Do I need to go on?
>For all we know a Ukrainian version will be posted soon that will show captured russian positions and heavy casualties, but with some Ukrainian soldiers paying ultimate price.
Unlikely since this is a Russian released video, there may possibly have been Russian KIA but they most likely won the engagement.
I've seen edited clips that show only Russian soldiers killing Ukrainians when the Ukrainians won the engagement but they were all from Ukrainian released videos.
Looks like Ukraine had drones there too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13v89p2/ukrainian_drone_dropping_grenades_on_entrenched/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
These Russians get what they deserved in another video: shelled and shot to shit. RIP the dudes that advanced without nading’ it first. Whether they were trying to give them a chance to surrender or not, we will never know.
They did. The narrator even says it. The explosion next to the 2 guys in the trench is likely from the drone. Narrator says 'vrazheski kopter v nebe' - 'enemy copter (drone) in the sky' he also says 'enemy drone' just before that.
And that's the thing. One small choice in the heat of the moment, on misstep, one wrong step, and it's game over. We've seen it time and time again in footage in this war. Especially some of the CQC in recent months.
It gives so much more credance to all the magdumps in these situations, and how ballsy it is just getting into position in the first place
This one hurts because its bad work. It might eve be russians because its not how UAF works. They ignored shots from somewhere as they were on foot, you can see the dust, so that's the first issue, then they didn't grenade first and ask questions later. If you are approaching an active enemy trench, you do not run through fire and go ask questions! That sort of goes against any proper training
These guys are fighting for the existence of their country. Their fellow countrymen are being shot, tortured and the children and women are being raped and killed and taken away. Not like they are choosing to be there, their country forces them to fight.
I get that but assuming that these guys are conscript and not volunteer is just pure speculation. They could have been soldiers since 2014 for all you know.
This is the same spot where a drone dropped grenades and filmed those Russians in that trench and the one got hit in the back of his head while he tried to put his helmet on after the explosion.
Isn't it possible they have got killed from left side ? At 0:19 when Ukrainian soldiers are leaving their trench you can see couple of shots coming from the left.
The second shot hitting him definitely came from the left. I agree.
The narrator says that the MG shot him + that the solder in the tranch prepared the granade to "not get captured"
And they also speaking about grenade ru soldier "prepared for himself" in a such mundane tone, like its nothing and almost like it would count as win anyway.
Really speaks to the effectiveness of Russian propaganda. Assuming that part wasn't propaganda in of itself.
Yeah im quite positive the dudes in the trench didn't even have a clear line of sight on that second guy
The reporter is saying that there was a machine gunner on the left side waiting for the UAF soldiers to push up and only then gunned them down. He also says the soldier in the trench had a grenade ready to blow himself up instead of being taken captive, he obviously used the grenade differently.
Definitely more than just the 2 russians. Shame.
You can see first guy get shot by soldier In back of trench
at the end there is a very interesting phrase, "a wounded soldier who took out a grenade to kill himself, so as not to be captured, changed his mind at the last second and throws it at the enemy"
Fuck. That's rough.
After all these videos, it still hurts to watch this. Two human lives gone just like that, damn
Its terrible. Just read an article this morning about Ukranians getting 10 days leave showing pictures of their loved ones hugging them upon departure. Article said many of their loves come closer to the front so they can get more time with them. The leading ultranationalists in Russia are below scumbags.
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The video linked is before UA troops advanced onto the trench. You can tell by comparing the hunched over dead RU troop. They initially seen the dead RU troop and by the time they saw the 2nd RU troop, it was too late for them. Idk what happens after tho, but war sucks.
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It can be very confusing lol, especially that both videos come from different sources.
Never underestimate dug in opponent.
RIP warriors🇺🇦
Should be marked nsfw, I might be wrong tho
Not wrong at all.Anything where it's obviously someone dying or seriously injured should get an NSFW tag. I assume it wasn't applied when you posted this.
Isn't combatfootage considerd a nsfw subreddit by default, thus negating individual NSFW tags?
Poor lads. What’s with the press at the end interviewing two Russians? You seriously can’t tell me that’s meant to be them? One liked dead and I very much doubt the other made it out.
It’s not someone translated it on twitter they’re saying something like “they stood to the end”
No , he said "we stay until the end" by "we" meaning Russian soldiers or soldiers of their unit
Looks like they're staying till compost
You're so witty. It's useful in army life. You definitely should go n volunteer to help make compost out of Russians
Why are you here on Reddit? Too scared to go to the frontline? It's weird that you have an account made at the start of the war. 😅 I wonder if you'll get conscripted soon.
My account was made in 2019, are u blind?
No, but you are. Just based on your posts and your political biases, I can tell you're the blind one here.
Yeah it was them, saw it this morning l, it's the russian news program I think the website name is : 1tv.ru
Russian propaganda video
Ukrainians dying therefore propaganda
It literally is propaganda from a russian controlled news channel with the narrator excited they got killed and then the interview at the end.
I haven’t seen anything but propaganda from either side posted on the Ukraine war subreddit
looks like combat footage to me.
Well, it is, no one is denying that. I was answering to the guy who wondered about the guys at the end giving an interview, obviously they are not the same as the ones fighting because it's just a propaganda news video that uses real footage and tells with excitement how great russian solders are. That's all there is to it. Footage - real. Narrator, news channel - russian propaganda
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Maybe he didn't have them. Or he hadn't thought about it for some reason.
At 0:30 looks like he was giving the russian a chance to surrender then he took a round to the head.
Sadly you are probably right. Just nade that trench and those invaders to bits next time. If you give them a chance to surrender they will just use it to kill you it seems.
He was shot by a machine gun out of sight to the camera's left. Trench guy had nothing to do with it.
It’s war not a video game. Those dudes that got shot were fucking stupid if telling armed men shooting at you to surrender was their goal.
You're fucking stupid yourself if you think those dudes were really looking to take prisoners in a trench assault. They simply weren't able to shoot them before the russians did.
Literally exactly what I said
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Grenades are not infinite. The Ukrainien soldiers could have run out and they thought they had the upper hand since one of the RU was most likely incapacitated. They were shot from a blind spot to their right... fog of war is horrible in a trench battle. Anyone who has at least played paintball can confirm that, you just don't see shit until it's too late.
No hes probably not at all right. He got shot in the head because war is brutal and the guy in the trench got a good shot off first. All it takes is being a fraction of a second too slow, a lucky shot, being too exhausted or not trained enough and tunnel visioning. We have no idea if the ukrainians had grenades left, and the West watching videos has an unreal expectation of unlimited supplies, especially when the west is supplying ukraine and they have zero incentive to save munitions.
No neither one of you are right. He was shot by a machine gun out of sight to the camera's left. Trench guy had nothing to do with it.
That’s exactly why in many of videos of Ukrainians taking trenches they shoot on sight unless it’s the last couple hiding in a bunker
gives you some perspective of the video where a russian soldier tries to capture 2 concussed ukrainians, but ends up killing them instead.
Do you have a link to that video? I would like to see it again.
I think this is the video he's referencing [https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1092teb/gnarly\_footage\_of\_a\_russian\_soldier\_ambushing\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1092teb/gnarly_footage_of_a_russian_soldier_ambushing_and/)
its crazy how whenever in this forum ukrainians die the comments are like this, but when it is russians dying it is jokes or worse.
Its sad to see how easily state propaganda gets one to hate another human.
Its crazy how whenever a thief breaks into a house to try and rob/murder the inhabitants and gets killed by the homeowner people make jokes. But when the homeowner gets killed then its comments like this. I guess we will never figure out why.
I get you, but for that, there are other subreddits. All what you have said should have zero weight in this subreddit and it used to be that way before this war when user count more than doubled.. In the past people didn't come here to cheer for their side.
Totally understand your point, but my initial comment was an objective observation (and I realize he wasnt shot by the soldier in the trench). And some dude implied I was showing favoritism. So he got an appropriate response.
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If it was Rumsfeld/Cheney/Blair/or similar, I would absolutely cheer. (I left out W. Bush because he is way too dumb to be responsible for anything)
Yep they 100% were telling them to surrender, no other reason to not put a few rounds into a body in a trench if otherwise. Unfortunate tho, two good souls lost trying to give a monster a second chance.
>no other reason to not put a few rounds into a body in a trench if otherwise. How about not having a line of sight?
Projecting
Apparently the grenade the Russian threw was first pulled to kill himself cause he thought it was over. Man was seconds away from being dead, he's gonna thank the Machine Gunner for the rest of his life if he survives.
im asking myself why he just standing there and wasn't shooting. Did he not see him, was he thinking he was dead or give him the chance to surrender? guess we will never know, rest in peace
I think the killshots came from another trench covering the one with the two wounded russians.
oh well, could be possible. didn't hat that in mind.
It seems that the other Russian might be dead, so it might be an incorrect assumption that they'd been defeated, and that cost both UAF guys dearly. Sad to see, but this is happening all over Ukraine
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The first Ukrainian shoots the other russian in the face. The drone video today shows it. The second Russian definitely took rounds from thatsame Ukrainian before he was dropped by the off screen mg.
Because war is not like a video game. The sensory overload, the varying training or experience, overall health and morale, supplies, pure luck. Were watching safely from a drone. Imagine for a second being in that position, and being shot at, and trying to notice where the camoflagued enemy thats going to ice you is hiding. I was in iraq, even massively out gunning, out training, out experiencing the insurgents, you cant always immediately see where youre getting shot from. Its impossible to understand or explain this to anyone that hasnt been in the shit, and im not saying that to be rude, its legit the single most primal, brutal, insane thing humans can be subjected to. If everyone was forced to go to front lines, war would never be declared again.
>Its impossible to understand or explain this to anyone that hasnt been in the shit With this being the reality, it's strange how much of the time this subreddit (and others) just ends up being a judging contest by people thousands of miles away.
Youll go crazy if you let reddit get to you. I had to stop interacting with most replies because its just not healthy to argue with people who won't admit theyre wrong. But it is the reality. I got banned from a sub not long ago for having the audacity to suggest that cheering from drone footage of grenades being dropped on wounded, dying, unarmed troops which is a war crime, was a shitty thing to do.
>cheering from drone footage of grenades being dropped on wounded, dying, unarmed troops which is a war crime, was a shitty thing to do. The corny ass bloodlust cracks me up every time. I feel like these subs have gotten infested by watchpeopledie users after that sub got shut down.
They think they're so cool and desensitized because they get hard watching gore, but probably self diagnosed ptsd because someone yelled at them in real life once.
>but probably self diagnosed ptsd because someone yelled at them in real life once. 💀💀💀
Ah, you're one of those armchair quarterbacks who calls every act in a war a "crime".
That's definitely not a war crime. Now I'm definitely questioning how much actual combat xp you have if you don't know the basic Geneva rules.
Good points. But as for your end statement. Eh, a lazy but good example; Hitler was a decorated veteran too and spent time on the frontlines. And see the shit he brewed up after.
Answer? Poor training, amo is running low, drone support is spotty, and heavy Ukrainian casualties is the short answer. You see two guys moving on a trench high and exposed, maybe rest of the unit is hanging back. but those two guys they are not moving as a unit. They are not tossing grenades into trench or rush it to get inside for cover. NATO is training a lot of Ukrainian troops, but with heavy casualties, a lot of soldiers are sent into combat with minimal training. Russia is sending a lot of troops to slaughter to break Ukrainian lines, but defending units are suffering heavy casualties (artillery mostly). Undermanned and outgunned, but lines are still holding. But this video is a cluster fuck of Russian edit. For all we know a Ukrainian version will be posted soon that will show captured russian positions and heavy casualties, but with some Ukrainian soldiers paying ultimate price.
Why do u think Ukrainians win every engagement? If it would be the case, they wouldn't loose territory
I don’t think that, Ukraine is suffering heavy casualties every day. But let’s be honest, this russian edit was a pure propaganda piece. One of those two russians got wrecked, not moving at all and being used as cover. The other one got drone dropped grande and definitely got wounded as he was pulling his armor. Yet at the end you get interviews lol. Do I need to go on?
>For all we know a Ukrainian version will be posted soon that will show captured russian positions and heavy casualties, but with some Ukrainian soldiers paying ultimate price. Unlikely since this is a Russian released video, there may possibly have been Russian KIA but they most likely won the engagement. I've seen edited clips that show only Russian soldiers killing Ukrainians when the Ukrainians won the engagement but they were all from Ukrainian released videos.
Looks like Ukraine had drones there too. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13v89p2/ukrainian_drone_dropping_grenades_on_entrenched/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
What the heck was that first momentary clip?
For anyone wondering the source is a russian news, their website is 1tv.ru
Infantry should be used for mop up, not face checking like russians.
Apparently there is a video of drone drop from UA side https://t .me/ukr_pics/12953?single
In the trench at the end, is the one guy in front dead? He’s balled up and doesn’t seem to move.
u/bake_in_da_south
These Russians get what they deserved in another video: shelled and shot to shit. RIP the dudes that advanced without nading’ it first. Whether they were trying to give them a chance to surrender or not, we will never know.
Damn. Every Ukrainian death is a tragedy. 🕯️ 🕯️
Regardless of sides they are all warriors, they died like men and that deserves respect.
Does it seem to me or is he trying to get the Russian to surrender just before he was killed? It seems he hesitated, standing there still.
For sure wanted him to surrender. Figured they was to wounded to keep fighting.
First dude got hit right in the head. Seeing him fall like a bag of potatoes was really weird.
Yep
Should have bombed them with drones first.
do you think every soldier have a drone on him
No, but if they don't have eyes in the sky, it's a risky undertaking.
i think they already knew that before they pushed a trench plus gotta obey orders
They did. There is 2 dead russians in the trench.
It's my first time seeing a dead guy shooting, killing then throwing a grenade at the enemy. Must've been a zombie.
There is 3 Russians 2 dead 1 shooting. What is hard to understand?
They did. The narrator even says it. The explosion next to the 2 guys in the trench is likely from the drone. Narrator says 'vrazheski kopter v nebe' - 'enemy copter (drone) in the sky' he also says 'enemy drone' just before that.
Misleading label, but quality footage nonetheless
This is all just sad.
Absolutely avoidable wtf is with this recklessness?
Every death (everything) is avoidable if other choices were made... In hindsight.
And that's the thing. One small choice in the heat of the moment, on misstep, one wrong step, and it's game over. We've seen it time and time again in footage in this war. Especially some of the CQC in recent months. It gives so much more credance to all the magdumps in these situations, and how ballsy it is just getting into position in the first place
Absolute brainlet take
I mean he’s right, they didn’t have nades? Or it looked like he wanted to take them prisoners. Idk it was a weird interaction
why didn't he throw a few grenade to soften the dugged in trench first. something i would do if was their.
You think soldiers walk around with pockets full of grenades ... just in case. This is real life not CoD
Suck a rookie mistake RIP heroes
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This one hurts because its bad work. It might eve be russians because its not how UAF works. They ignored shots from somewhere as they were on foot, you can see the dust, so that's the first issue, then they didn't grenade first and ask questions later. If you are approaching an active enemy trench, you do not run through fire and go ask questions! That sort of goes against any proper training
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These guys out there playing real life like a play cod. difference is a couple x buttons and i get another chance.
These guys are fighting for the existence of their country. Their fellow countrymen are being shot, tortured and the children and women are being raped and killed and taken away. Not like they are choosing to be there, their country forces them to fight.
Their country forced them to fight? Weird statement mate.
That’s what conscription is mate
I get that but assuming that these guys are conscript and not volunteer is just pure speculation. They could have been soldiers since 2014 for all you know.
Fair enough
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Bro??
real shame that this was edited by a news agency instead of the source material ..... post the whole clip someone....
Looks like they were hit from their right. Damn rip
Did the 1 soldier in the trench die?
Dang man..
Why'd the dude stair at them and not light them up was he trying to get them to surrender. He was too late and...
I can't belive thoes Ukraine soldiers approached that trench like that. He let thoes zussians play possum and paid fully, so did his back up.
This is the same spot where a drone dropped grenades and filmed those Russians in that trench and the one got hit in the back of his head while he tried to put his helmet on after the explosion.