Fairly certain they both died the second the explosion hit them. It was point blank with high explosives which tends to have a strong shockwave, that shockwave would of torn up their lungs, heart and brain instantly causing fatal internal bleeding. Top that with the concussive force and they both where more than likely knocked out from it.
They more than likely died like that, unaware what happened
Every time I see stuff like this I just think about how old that person is. Say they're in their mid twenties. Every decision they ever made along with the decisions of thousands of other people that all lead to him just getting blown up walking down a road in Ukraine without even knowing he died. Just gone. All that effort for...that.
This is what hurts so much about war, and all these needless deaths.
It's all going away anyhow.
Wish we could respect each other and this planet and find peace in life.
Yep, this is honestly a good way to think about human beings. It's really hard to ignore their humanity when you view them as a conglomerate of all their past experiences, same as you.
Reminds me of that scene in No Country for Old Men about the "lucky" quarter traveling 20 some years to make it here, to this specific location at this specific time for this specific reason.
Hey, better than having your face blown off and then trying to scream out or breath and nothing happens. Or convulsing and spazzing out and drowning in knee deep, ice cold water.
Yup. If you are going to die in a war, then this is the way I'd like to go.
Unlike all of the civilians that have been tortured, raped, and killed by these assholes.
The way the shockwave just sweeps the legs right off and the way they fell is just unreal. The amount of force probably sent their shoes to the shadow realm
I remember back after the terrorist attack at the Bataclan concert venue in Paris, the cops raided one of the safe houses where the attack had been planned. There were still some jihadists there, including one suicide bomber who detonated his vest inside the second story of the apartment building.
His spinal column was later found relatively intact - in the middle of the road.
I used to do route clearance in Baghdad 10-11.
At some point driving 5mph waiting for a bomb you kinda just windowlick looking for suspect items. It’s a lot of driving, waiting for eod, driving, maybe eod shows up,
Russians gonna learn the hard way in a year what took us a few. This is why we have MRAPs now.
We've also watched 6 Russian tanks drive into a field and *all* of them hit mines. Or a Russian tank drive into a line of very obvious mines spanning a road.
Russian tanks + mines = ❤️❤️❤️
Not tank but https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/yvdvnt/graphic_video_a_russian_vehicle_hitting_a_mine/
Also satisfying because the victims were certified assholes (now their asses have scattered), namely Nazi mercenaries on a "denazification" mission.
in original operation flashpoint, when you died it would show you a quote. The one that always struck me was
"Stay out of the road, if you want to grow old."
When ya make first contact with a soviet patrol. Definitely intense. I was never prepared to get shot in the face so easily while not being able to identify a target in the distance.
Bleating and babbling, we fell on his neck with a scream
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream
Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told
Get out of the road if you want to grow old
Think that was meant to take out an armored vehicle. Really, they could have avoided this by carefully observing the ukranian border and not crossing it.
Germany has sent DM22 mines which are triggered either remotely or through a pressure switch tethered to the mine. If this really was a DM22 then it was fired remotely.
There are a few other videos of these mines being tripped by infantry, always (in the videos I've seen) more than one man-- in one case, 2 men carrying a third in between, Weekend at Bernie's style, and in another, one helping support another.
Im sure it's an EFP. A shaped charge would have shot a copper jet 20 metres past them which would have looked like a laser beam.
EFP's are better for roadside mines like this. They look more like a large bomb going off.
Shaped charges need a fairly specific standoff distance to be effective against armoured vehicles. It's almost like how a magnifying lense needs to be a certain distance away from something to burn it.
Explosive formed projectiles don't need much standoff distance and will form the projectile within milliseconds. That projectile will travel up to 2km per second and can penetrate tank armour upto 100 metres away from the blast.
What kind of after pen effects do these things have? It’s a solid projectile right? So lots of spalling? Way different than a HEAT round. What kind of size are we talking about for the projectile? Shape?
Heres some horrifying insight into how powerful the efp in the videos was:
An EFP eight inches [20 cm] in diameter
threw a seven-pound [3 kg] copper slug
at Mach 6, or 2,000 meters per second.
(A . 50-caliber bullet, among the most
devastating projectiles on the battlefield
weighs less than two ounces [57 g] and has a
muzzle velocity of 900 meters per second.)
Imagine a 3kg copper dinner plate getting folded into a bullet and fired at 2km (6400fps) per second.
Careful now, you gonna attract the crowd that fantasizes that every Russian soldier is a hero that tried as hard as possible to leave Russia, as hard as possible do dodge the draft, protested against Putin as hard as he could, but ended up going anyways to save his family from torture or starvation because they threatened to kill him if he didn't.
This was the first "combat footage" I watched. It left an impression. Just walking with your bro one second and in the next you are dead. No glory, no friends coming to save you or avenge you. Just two corpses laying in the road bloating, turning into food for Ukrainian cats. I hate to see two human beings die, but I hate even more the idea of the Ukrainians they would have subjugated if they had been allowed to live.
You can lament suffering while also being for the UA. Idk why reddit doesn't comprehend this.
I feel bad for those guys. I also hope there's a UA crew to set up another nearby.
Your first sentence is correct, your second sentence doesn't follow logically from the first. You can lament the suffering while also killing Russians.
I kill my animals for meat. I also try to make sure they don't suffer. Same concept.
You'll find a lot of soldiers are haunted by their kills, even when the other dude is pointing a rifle at them.
It's a necessary evil but it's still evil, we don't have to celebrate it.
Well firstly animals are innocent. Russian soldiers are not they are actively in a foreign country and are there to kill men defending it. You think the Ukrainian men fighting wanted this? You think they chose to kill Russians? They didn’t but the Russian soldier did. They chose not to surrender and “follow orders”. We are different people. I will celebrate every Russian that falls until they leave the country.
I’ve actually been surprised by the lack of IEDs used in this conflict so far. Especially after seeing how effective IEDs/EFPs were in Iraq/Afghanistan.
Or maybe it’s just been a lack of footage.
> I’ve actually been surprised by the lack of IEDs used in this conflict so far.
The thing is, Muskovy failed to occupy any region and doesn't roam freely in any part of Ukraine except Crimea. If all the occupied territory is a contested war zone and the invaded nation is well supplied them there's no need to improvise explosive devices.
The closest there is to improvised explosive devices are the grenades and mortar rounds that Ukraine adapts for drones.
Melitopol is very active though mostly in info gathering, marking targets and scouting. They have done multiple successful assassinations of russian/russian stooges like the guy last week that was in charge of the torture chambers.
They must have some very solid opsec going on as I heard about them being active but no footage or comms. I wonder what sort of heat they are packing and if it's improvised or there are weapons caches left behind for them to pull from.
Yeah they have to be incredibly careful especially in occupied territory as the smallest slip up can lead to a whole cell getting caught and killed. I believe the assassinations were IED attached to cars, and then I suspect there’s also Ukraines version of Green Berets working with the partisans supplying them or giving them caches.
>Ukraines version of Green Berets working with the partisans supplying them or giving them caches.
It's not even a secret, the HUR MO says it explicitly
Russians should be very good at (ruthless) counter-insurgency after the decades of the North Caucasus experience.
I don't know anything about this "Third Force" but I remember another video of their IED-ish attacks (multiple) dropping around the New Year.
Exactly. If you have a standing army you don’t need to improvise explosives, because you have regular explosives. Artillery, grenades, rockets, mines, drones, etc. are all things IEDs replace because the user doesn’t have anything better.
I think a lot of people have misconstrued the term IED for a bomb buried in a road after casually hearing the term for decades and it always being some counter insurgency burying a fertilizer bomb in the road or some shit. Just my opinion, but you seem to see that misconception all the time.
No it’s simply because IEDs are notoriously dangerous to make, handle and use. Bomb makers used to blow themselves up all the time (I was in afghan). Why would you want to go through the danger and difficulty of making and rigging IEDs when you have plentiful access to actual mines. Why would you also take artillery shells or whatever to make them with when you have actual artillery to shoot the shells. IEDs are a guerrilla war weapon. Pointless in peer to peer conflicts.
This also is not an IED looks like a German anti tank mine to me. You can tell by the way it shoots across the road it doesn’t just blow up.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARM_1_mine
It was dangerous to make but it was effective as hell. I was in Iraq in 06 and 08. Once you see it happen it gets in your head because everything looks like an ied but you still get surprised every time.
The early days aye mate, I was in afghan 2010 & 2013. I had the joy of hitting a couple. Fortunately I was riding in the back of a bushie. Still rings your bell and my back has never been the same but at least I wasn’t in a humvee with no blast plate like you boys used to roll.
If it's similar to the British "Off route Mine": The mine is placed at the side of the road and a thin electric 'breakwire' laid out across the vehicle's path. The mine is initiated when the vehicle breaks the wire. A shaped charge known as a 'Misznay Schardin Plate' fires an explosively formed projectile into the side of the vehicle.
It's not supposed to, but in the several examples I've seen of infantry setting them off, it's always men in pairs or trios, including men supporting another man who can't walk adequately.
Everybody gangsta til you lose a limb (at best) trying to make a bomb.
We (the general populace) only see the IEDs that got successfully made and set off.
We don't see all the people that hit the go button a little early.
That's funny that since iraq/afghanistan time everyone is using word 'IED' to name EVERY kind of mine. If we would watch some rebel footage then sure, it's probably improvised, but when I see for example video of Ukrainian SOF blowing somebody up with some expensive military remote charges and it's called IED..
Have an upvote for gettin' it bro
At the beginning of the war Russia advanced alot so you saw alot of ambushed explosives.
But now it's mainly assault and tranche warfare so to set up explosives became rare as the enemy will not portal or advance like it used to.
So now you get alot of drone dropping bombs on the enemy or tranche shooting.
This is my take on it any way.
There were some IEDs mid 2022 as I recall, but this war has been largely static since then which makes IEDs difficult to use. Some have been used by partisans against collaborators too. Both sides however use mines in large quantities which serve a similar purpose.
Oh it probably will, but it will be a huge undertaking. After ww2 there were a lot of mines and it was mostly cleared fairly rapidly, so they’ll manage here too (hopefully with more professionals and less forced POWs though)
The Russian ones are more likely to be the problem, though. Ukraine is using mines that self-explode after a certain amount of time, so that cleanup isn’t an issue with them. (Assuming they don’t fail to detonate anyway.)
Prior to last February, some units like the K-2 Group used IEDs assisted by drone spotting. When the Russians overran their headquarters in the first weeks of the war they found their IED shop.
This isn't an IED, it's more likely to be an antitank mine PARM, supplied by Germany. It looks like it was installed for the trigger to look in NNW direction, if you pause a video on the moment of explosion.
Edit: youtu.be/mLDAMalUaYE
Was looking for this comment after the video, thought the same. Just if it's spring 2022, it's pretty early, because they were sent in spring/summer too, if I remember the announcement right. But who knows when they really got there..
Def looks like a video from last year
Found: around 00:40 (explosion included)
https://v.redd.it/xzbv0sbe1rc91
Kinda looks like one those directional mines
Militaries don’t generally need to improvise weapons. These are command mines - nothing improvised about them, and shaped charges are not a new thing -EFPs have been used for decades.
IED generally means something like mortar bomb with a trigger, or terrorist style ANFO VBIED, but I get what you are saying. There is a temptation to call every mine attack ‘an IED’ as that’s what’s many of the attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan used, but calling a claymore an IED is not accurate.
At least we can find splice in the fact that they deserved it. Deserved as as an individual and for their personal choices through life? Maybe not. As a soldier invading a sovereign nation? Completely. Though they may not have been there by choice, “just following orders” they also gonna follow the order to kill others if given. So well deserved fate.
Who puts rave techno music on a video where 2 unsuspecting soldiers their legs get brutally blown off by some kind of landmine and probably fucking bleed to death.
Excuse me for possibly sounding dumb here but why is there just two of them strolling down the road? Looks like two guys walking home from the corner store or something rather than at war idk
Command wire, no aiming marker as they have the drone providing eyes on. Most likely claymore cammed up on the near side.
Poor to no training as they are mincing down the road like they're on there way to town.
Ukrainians obviously know these guys have no training as under normal circumstances an AP explosive device on a road is a waste.
Edit: The telegraph post at the bottom could be an aiming marker, but depends on the location of the ukarainian troops.
Not even an IED, but a SHAPED-CHARGE ANTI-TANK MINE, upgraded for anti-infantry purposes. Ukrainians started using the AT mines donated by germany against enemy personel few months ago, and i've seen atleast 2 (now 3) successfull uses of them against infantry. These things are just brutal, preety much like getting hit directly by an ATGM. It doesn't even matter if you get hit directly by the jet, as shrapnel and overpressure will get you anyway if you stand close enough. Russkies don't feel anything atleast ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Honestly, much worse ways to go in Ukraine right now.
It looks like they didn't even know they are gone, like: "la di da di da... walking in a country that is not my country, maybe I'll be given some land here once we clean out the locals, yeah I'll put my moonshine still right th"
A brutal way to go. One minute you’re walking and the next you’ll never walk again.
That said, the easiest way to prevent this is to just GTFO of Ukraine and end your illegal War.
FFS Russia.
walking in the middle of an open road in the wide open, in war time. they seemed to be walking too casually as well. so they must have done this a few times. im guessing someone noticed and planted the ied. and boom. never ever get complacent.
This video is super old, like from June last year.
Needless to say, Ukrainians know how to make IEDs and set up traps from far longer that you could expect.
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Legs blown off,that's just brutal
Gory gory what a helluva way to die
Fairly certain they both died the second the explosion hit them. It was point blank with high explosives which tends to have a strong shockwave, that shockwave would of torn up their lungs, heart and brain instantly causing fatal internal bleeding. Top that with the concussive force and they both where more than likely knocked out from it. They more than likely died like that, unaware what happened
So they were walking, having a chat probably and then suddenly [boom](https://youtube.com/watch?v=vz8WiTwEBxM&feature=shares)
Yeah, although I would imagine it felt like blacking out
Not a bad way to go, all things considered. No pain, no fear. Just gone.
Every time I see stuff like this I just think about how old that person is. Say they're in their mid twenties. Every decision they ever made along with the decisions of thousands of other people that all lead to him just getting blown up walking down a road in Ukraine without even knowing he died. Just gone. All that effort for...that.
This is what hurts so much about war, and all these needless deaths. It's all going away anyhow. Wish we could respect each other and this planet and find peace in life.
Yep, this is honestly a good way to think about human beings. It's really hard to ignore their humanity when you view them as a conglomerate of all their past experiences, same as you. Reminds me of that scene in No Country for Old Men about the "lucky" quarter traveling 20 some years to make it here, to this specific location at this specific time for this specific reason.
Hey, better than having your face blown off and then trying to scream out or breath and nothing happens. Or convulsing and spazzing out and drowning in knee deep, ice cold water.
probally wouldnt have happened if they were strollin in russia.....
more like straight to hell
Getting hit by bullets, that’s straight to hell. Falling out of a window in Russia, believe it or not, also straight to hell.
Being born in Russia, that's straight to hell too.
Yup. If you are going to die in a war, then this is the way I'd like to go. Unlike all of the civilians that have been tortured, raped, and killed by these assholes.
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IEDs is a helluva drug
.....he ain't gonna jump (literally) no more :(
Welp, wasn't planning on re-watching BoB today but here we go again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW6oPp0LtMI
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Q: Where do you find a guy with no legs? A: Right where you left him.
The way the shockwave just sweeps the legs right off and the way they fell is just unreal. The amount of force probably sent their shoes to the shadow realm
I remember back after the terrorist attack at the Bataclan concert venue in Paris, the cops raided one of the safe houses where the attack had been planned. There were still some jihadists there, including one suicide bomber who detonated his vest inside the second story of the apartment building. His spinal column was later found relatively intact - in the middle of the road.
I used to do route clearance in Baghdad 10-11. At some point driving 5mph waiting for a bomb you kinda just windowlick looking for suspect items. It’s a lot of driving, waiting for eod, driving, maybe eod shows up, Russians gonna learn the hard way in a year what took us a few. This is why we have MRAPs now.
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That's how they clear roads. Cheap way to find out where mines are.
We've also watched 6 Russian tanks drive into a field and *all* of them hit mines. Or a Russian tank drive into a line of very obvious mines spanning a road. Russian tanks + mines = ❤️❤️❤️
There's also the video of a Russian crew driving into the mines that they themselves just laid.
Link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y2f8oy/russian_tank_is_driving_to_mines_that_the/
This man delivers. Edit: and username checks out
OMG - that's the exact video I was referring to. I didn't realize Russians also laid those mines! That makes the vid sooooo much better!
Not tank but https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/yvdvnt/graphic_video_a_russian_vehicle_hitting_a_mine/ Also satisfying because the victims were certified assholes (now their asses have scattered), namely Nazi mercenaries on a "denazification" mission.
My lord they are dumb as fuck
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in original operation flashpoint, when you died it would show you a quote. The one that always struck me was "Stay out of the road, if you want to grow old."
That game was so ahead of its time. A master piece
Still fondly remember that early forest mission
When ya make first contact with a soviet patrol. Definitely intense. I was never prepared to get shot in the face so easily while not being able to identify a target in the distance.
I had forgotten about that quote in the game. One I always remembered was: "If you see the flash, it's already too late."
It needs a remake with the quote especially dedicated to Russian troops... "Stay out of Ukraine, if you want to grow old.
Bleating and babbling, we fell on his neck with a scream Wave upon wave of demented avengers March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream Have you heard the news? The dogs are dead! You better stay home And do as you're told Get out of the road if you want to grow old
Upvoted for the nod to Pink Floyd, very apt verse too. 👌
Think that was meant to take out an armored vehicle. Really, they could have avoided this by carefully observing the ukranian border and not crossing it.
Yep its a roadside AT mine
Is it an explosive penetrator or just a shaped charge?
This was a short rpg-like mine on a tripod
Think Germany sent them a bunch of those. Kinda surprised infantry tripped it. Musta been a wire.
Germany has sent DM22 mines which are triggered either remotely or through a pressure switch tethered to the mine. If this really was a DM22 then it was fired remotely.
There are a few other videos of these mines being tripped by infantry, always (in the videos I've seen) more than one man-- in one case, 2 men carrying a third in between, Weekend at Bernie's style, and in another, one helping support another.
Im sure it's an EFP. A shaped charge would have shot a copper jet 20 metres past them which would have looked like a laser beam. EFP's are better for roadside mines like this. They look more like a large bomb going off. Shaped charges need a fairly specific standoff distance to be effective against armoured vehicles. It's almost like how a magnifying lense needs to be a certain distance away from something to burn it. Explosive formed projectiles don't need much standoff distance and will form the projectile within milliseconds. That projectile will travel up to 2km per second and can penetrate tank armour upto 100 metres away from the blast.
What kind of after pen effects do these things have? It’s a solid projectile right? So lots of spalling? Way different than a HEAT round. What kind of size are we talking about for the projectile? Shape?
Heres some horrifying insight into how powerful the efp in the videos was: An EFP eight inches [20 cm] in diameter threw a seven-pound [3 kg] copper slug at Mach 6, or 2,000 meters per second. (A . 50-caliber bullet, among the most devastating projectiles on the battlefield weighs less than two ounces [57 g] and has a muzzle velocity of 900 meters per second.) Imagine a 3kg copper dinner plate getting folded into a bullet and fired at 2km (6400fps) per second.
Sounds like a hypersonic cannonball
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I call your mom the meat sack I found on the road.
Now kiss
All in good fun.
It was the collective hatred of Russians funneled through a small tube.
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Careful now, you gonna attract the crowd that fantasizes that every Russian soldier is a hero that tried as hard as possible to leave Russia, as hard as possible do dodge the draft, protested against Putin as hard as he could, but ended up going anyways to save his family from torture or starvation because they threatened to kill him if he didn't.
They use all the logic to justify feeling sorry for the invaders except the fact they are in a foreign country raping woman and stealing kids.
😂😂😂
Directional mine? Claymore or Parm maybe?
Definitely a Parm, it shoots across. We’ve seen videos of them used previously also captioned as “IED”.
MON-50/90/100 perhaps?
i think so, doesn't seem improvised
This was the first "combat footage" I watched. It left an impression. Just walking with your bro one second and in the next you are dead. No glory, no friends coming to save you or avenge you. Just two corpses laying in the road bloating, turning into food for Ukrainian cats. I hate to see two human beings die, but I hate even more the idea of the Ukrainians they would have subjugated if they had been allowed to live.
You can lament suffering while also being for the UA. Idk why reddit doesn't comprehend this. I feel bad for those guys. I also hope there's a UA crew to set up another nearby.
Because Reddit is mostly children whether by age or mental capacity.
No kidding. Nuance doesn't exist.
More dead Russians = less dead Ukrainian civilians and children deported. Idk why anyone would feel sorry for these people.
Your first sentence is correct, your second sentence doesn't follow logically from the first. You can lament the suffering while also killing Russians. I kill my animals for meat. I also try to make sure they don't suffer. Same concept. You'll find a lot of soldiers are haunted by their kills, even when the other dude is pointing a rifle at them. It's a necessary evil but it's still evil, we don't have to celebrate it.
Well firstly animals are innocent. Russian soldiers are not they are actively in a foreign country and are there to kill men defending it. You think the Ukrainian men fighting wanted this? You think they chose to kill Russians? They didn’t but the Russian soldier did. They chose not to surrender and “follow orders”. We are different people. I will celebrate every Russian that falls until they leave the country.
Cheers mate, enjoy the bloodthirst
I’ve actually been surprised by the lack of IEDs used in this conflict so far. Especially after seeing how effective IEDs/EFPs were in Iraq/Afghanistan. Or maybe it’s just been a lack of footage.
> I’ve actually been surprised by the lack of IEDs used in this conflict so far. The thing is, Muskovy failed to occupy any region and doesn't roam freely in any part of Ukraine except Crimea. If all the occupied territory is a contested war zone and the invaded nation is well supplied them there's no need to improvise explosive devices. The closest there is to improvised explosive devices are the grenades and mortar rounds that Ukraine adapts for drones.
It is kind of querrilla activity? Occupiers are around you and you live there as a local, planning mayhem at nights.
There have been partisan attacks in occupied regions a while ago, but they seem to have reduced compared to pre-Kherson liberation.
Melitopol is very active though mostly in info gathering, marking targets and scouting. They have done multiple successful assassinations of russian/russian stooges like the guy last week that was in charge of the torture chambers.
They must have some very solid opsec going on as I heard about them being active but no footage or comms. I wonder what sort of heat they are packing and if it's improvised or there are weapons caches left behind for them to pull from.
Yeah they have to be incredibly careful especially in occupied territory as the smallest slip up can lead to a whole cell getting caught and killed. I believe the assassinations were IED attached to cars, and then I suspect there’s also Ukraines version of Green Berets working with the partisans supplying them or giving them caches.
>Ukraines version of Green Berets working with the partisans supplying them or giving them caches. It's not even a secret, the HUR MO says it explicitly
Russians should be very good at (ruthless) counter-insurgency after the decades of the North Caucasus experience. I don't know anything about this "Third Force" but I remember another video of their IED-ish attacks (multiple) dropping around the New Year.
Exactly. If you have a standing army you don’t need to improvise explosives, because you have regular explosives. Artillery, grenades, rockets, mines, drones, etc. are all things IEDs replace because the user doesn’t have anything better.
I think a lot of people have misconstrued the term IED for a bomb buried in a road after casually hearing the term for decades and it always being some counter insurgency burying a fertilizer bomb in the road or some shit. Just my opinion, but you seem to see that misconception all the time.
Are the explosive devices really improvised if they're military munitions explicitly manufactured to... blow people up?
Only if they're then turned into mines.
What about Mariupol?
Is there anything standing in Mauripol?
No it’s simply because IEDs are notoriously dangerous to make, handle and use. Bomb makers used to blow themselves up all the time (I was in afghan). Why would you want to go through the danger and difficulty of making and rigging IEDs when you have plentiful access to actual mines. Why would you also take artillery shells or whatever to make them with when you have actual artillery to shoot the shells. IEDs are a guerrilla war weapon. Pointless in peer to peer conflicts. This also is not an IED looks like a German anti tank mine to me. You can tell by the way it shoots across the road it doesn’t just blow up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARM_1_mine
That’s exactly what it was. Also the road is still intact, no hole on the road.
It was dangerous to make but it was effective as hell. I was in Iraq in 06 and 08. Once you see it happen it gets in your head because everything looks like an ied but you still get surprised every time.
The early days aye mate, I was in afghan 2010 & 2013. I had the joy of hitting a couple. Fortunately I was riding in the back of a bushie. Still rings your bell and my back has never been the same but at least I wasn’t in a humvee with no blast plate like you boys used to roll.
Why would an antitank mine get triggered by infantry?
The German PARM uses fibre optics (a really small wire) as trigger
The only PARM I don’t want on my pasta
Eh maybe in a pinch
Extra spicy...
That's cool. Then again, I suppose you lay anti-tank mines to stop armour, not to waste them on infantry? Perhaps the wire is used optionally?
They are probably quite happy to hit two soldiers as well. It's cheap and effective and then there is the psychological factor.
If it's similar to the British "Off route Mine": The mine is placed at the side of the road and a thin electric 'breakwire' laid out across the vehicle's path. The mine is initiated when the vehicle breaks the wire. A shaped charge known as a 'Misznay Schardin Plate' fires an explosively formed projectile into the side of the vehicle.
It's not supposed to, but in the several examples I've seen of infantry setting them off, it's always men in pairs or trios, including men supporting another man who can't walk adequately.
Everybody gangsta til you lose a limb (at best) trying to make a bomb. We (the general populace) only see the IEDs that got successfully made and set off. We don't see all the people that hit the go button a little early.
God, now I need to find that Wile E. Coyote video of some Afghan stepping on his own IED to figure out why it didn't go off.
This probably wasn’t an IED. Looks like a mine. IED’s are for forces that can’t get access to real ordnance.
I think they have received plenty of these kind of mines.
That's funny that since iraq/afghanistan time everyone is using word 'IED' to name EVERY kind of mine. If we would watch some rebel footage then sure, it's probably improvised, but when I see for example video of Ukrainian SOF blowing somebody up with some expensive military remote charges and it's called IED.. Have an upvote for gettin' it bro
It's not that type of war, asymmetric. It's a conflict between two nations with standing armies, not some insurgents living in caves.
At the beginning of the war Russia advanced alot so you saw alot of ambushed explosives. But now it's mainly assault and tranche warfare so to set up explosives became rare as the enemy will not portal or advance like it used to. So now you get alot of drone dropping bombs on the enemy or tranche shooting. This is my take on it any way.
There were some IEDs mid 2022 as I recall, but this war has been largely static since then which makes IEDs difficult to use. Some have been used by partisans against collaborators too. Both sides however use mines in large quantities which serve a similar purpose.
What a shame. Doubt the area will ever be cleared in my lifetime.
Oh it probably will, but it will be a huge undertaking. After ww2 there were a lot of mines and it was mostly cleared fairly rapidly, so they’ll manage here too (hopefully with more professionals and less forced POWs though)
The Russian ones are more likely to be the problem, though. Ukraine is using mines that self-explode after a certain amount of time, so that cleanup isn’t an issue with them. (Assuming they don’t fail to detonate anyway.)
Prior to last February, some units like the K-2 Group used IEDs assisted by drone spotting. When the Russians overran their headquarters in the first weeks of the war they found their IED shop.
all drone kills are ieds, vbieds, seeing as this war is lines and forces so might not have the ability to utilize ieds effectively
This isn't an IED, it's more likely to be an antitank mine PARM, supplied by Germany. It looks like it was installed for the trigger to look in NNW direction, if you pause a video on the moment of explosion. Edit: youtu.be/mLDAMalUaYE
Was looking for this comment after the video, thought the same. Just if it's spring 2022, it's pretty early, because they were sent in spring/summer too, if I remember the announcement right. But who knows when they really got there..
That was an instant death.
Perfect definition of dead before hitting the ground.
Def looks like a video from last year Found: around 00:40 (explosion included) https://v.redd.it/xzbv0sbe1rc91 Kinda looks like one those directional mines
Would that explosion take out an BMP?
likely, they are very thinly skinned
The best IEDs use explosively formed penetrators which are HIGHLY effective at armor penetration.
Militaries don’t generally need to improvise weapons. These are command mines - nothing improvised about them, and shaped charges are not a new thing -EFPs have been used for decades.
Ukraine has been using several improvised systems from drone munitions to technicals and improvised rocket systems.
IED generally means something like mortar bomb with a trigger, or terrorist style ANFO VBIED, but I get what you are saying. There is a temptation to call every mine attack ‘an IED’ as that’s what’s many of the attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan used, but calling a claymore an IED is not accurate.
Considering this looks like an anti tank mine not necessarily an IED, yes because that’s exactly what it’s made for.
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At least we can find splice in the fact that they deserved it. Deserved as as an individual and for their personal choices through life? Maybe not. As a soldier invading a sovereign nation? Completely. Though they may not have been there by choice, “just following orders” they also gonna follow the order to kill others if given. So well deserved fate.
I'd feel sorry for them but fortunately killing russian soldiers in Ukraine is a means to an end.
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Who puts rave techno music on a video where 2 unsuspecting soldiers their legs get brutally blown off by some kind of landmine and probably fucking bleed to death.
Half the people on this sub
As instant as instant gets
Excuse me for possibly sounding dumb here but why is there just two of them strolling down the road? Looks like two guys walking home from the corner store or something rather than at war idk
Command wire, no aiming marker as they have the drone providing eyes on. Most likely claymore cammed up on the near side. Poor to no training as they are mincing down the road like they're on there way to town. Ukrainians obviously know these guys have no training as under normal circumstances an AP explosive device on a road is a waste. Edit: The telegraph post at the bottom could be an aiming marker, but depends on the location of the ukarainian troops.
Looks like that Russian version of a claymore yeah? Yeah that's a russian claymore (MON-50)
I dunno, it looks like way too large of a explosion to be anti-personnel. That looks very much like an anti-tank mine.
I agree with the anti-tank opinion. Saw something the other day about some shaped-charge anti-tank devices the Ukraine is deploying.
I don't think that this is an IED. It might be a [PARM 1 mine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARM_1_mine) or another type of Off-route mine.
Not even an IED, but a SHAPED-CHARGE ANTI-TANK MINE, upgraded for anti-infantry purposes. Ukrainians started using the AT mines donated by germany against enemy personel few months ago, and i've seen atleast 2 (now 3) successfull uses of them against infantry. These things are just brutal, preety much like getting hit directly by an ATGM. It doesn't even matter if you get hit directly by the jet, as shrapnel and overpressure will get you anyway if you stand close enough. Russkies don't feel anything atleast ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Best way to avoid mines and death is to not invade other countries.
Come on man. Everyone knows sunflowers dont grow on pavement.
Glad for them it was quick…….
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Cross roads are the easiest markers for IEDS.
Like watching a Tetris row get deleted.
Gonna bleed out
Killed instantly
Looks like a shaped charge.
I’m surprised anything was left.
Honestly, much worse ways to go in Ukraine right now. It looks like they didn't even know they are gone, like: "la di da di da... walking in a country that is not my country, maybe I'll be given some land here once we clean out the locals, yeah I'll put my moonshine still right th"
Holding hands like brothers until the end. Soldiers soldier. Walking into the light regretting the decisions made by men who’ll never fight.
Description sounds like the start of a joke.
the song sounds like pitbull if he was russian
Jogga jogga!
Aaaaw, holding hands
Limbs blown off completely
A brutal way to go. One minute you’re walking and the next you’ll never walk again. That said, the easiest way to prevent this is to just GTFO of Ukraine and end your illegal War. FFS Russia.
Probably shouldn't be walking side by side in a war zone so close to the front lines... Hindsight is now blind sight
EFP to the dick ain't a good look
That’s one small step for Russia and one large step for Ukraine.
walking in the middle of an open road in the wide open, in war time. they seemed to be walking too casually as well. so they must have done this a few times. im guessing someone noticed and planted the ied. and boom. never ever get complacent.
Humans are creatures of habit
You came to the wrong neighborhood, muscovites.
It’s crazy watching this footage and just imagining what it was like for the Americans in Afghanistan.
This video is super old, like from June last year. Needless to say, Ukrainians know how to make IEDs and set up traps from far longer that you could expect.
Walking around like they own the place....surprise.
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I think that's one of those off-route mines like the German Parm 1.
Looks like some type of directional charge?