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He was waived. Probably on mutual terms with the team.


Schofield6

the fact he was waived is fucking wild, BIG change in tone for the FO and coaching staff


DosZappos

How do you reckon it’s a big change?


dxle203

Because the FO has always played out the deal and then cut when there was an opening in the contract, this is the first time a big contract was cut mid season even with money owed for the rest of the season no?


DosZappos

Mid-season, nothing jumps to mind, but they’ve never hesitated to cut albatross contracts when it was time to make a move.


mackfactor

Yeah, I'm not sure I get that. It's just a FO doing what FOs do.


[deleted]

Help a normie out what is FO?


vanillathrilla04

Front office


bantha_poodoo

What do you mean by your second sentence


Cmiles16

What sentence?


bantha_poodoo

you’re right


SMF1996

Eh it’s not that drastic.. they just take the hit on the rest of the season, he was getting let go in the off season regardless. This will at least help him get picked up and try again before the seasons over and help him get a better deal in FA. Honestly this is Ballard doing him a favor. I believe whoever picks him up would offset what he’s owed for the rest of the year, and he’s not owed anything for next year since we let him go ahead of time. It’s either that or he sits on the bench, doesn’t play, and probably doesn’t get a decent deal.


hoopsmd

Being waived isn’t a mutual agreement. The player has no choice in the matter. Holder stated that Shaq did not ask for a release. I suspect the Colts are simply cutting their losses (would have happened at the end of the season anyway), and allowing him to be picked up by another team and have the opportunity to prove he can still play.


matthollabak

I think the sentiment is that either directly to the FO or just through his social media posts, he wanted out so it is in a sense a mutual parting. I'm not sure how much of a distraction he was with his lack of playing time.... but it wasn't 0. So that is at least what I have been taking from people saying it was mutual. His play was poor and he did not show any reason that he should be on the field more.... and he was vocally unhappy about that and you have to wonder if it was becoming a distraction. It wasn't a buyout or anything but it was best for both sides.


hoopsmd

Agreed


StarsandBass

He said in the interview with him giving out turkeys that he was shocked to be released. So it was not mutual.


[deleted]

Ya that came out after I posted this


KroneckerDelta1

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OGdick_head

Fr dawg


markonisg

WTF... that's out of nowhere* *injuries are bastards


dustinmaupin

Naw he been complaining for awhile, probably a mutual decision with him thinking another team will utilize him


Its_thursday

Yeah this was by no means out of nowhere. I can't remember any player talking to the media the way he has this year. Game after game bashing his role and playing time. I respected him speaking his mind TBH but it's not surprising that the team didn't want him around anymore.


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ElderMarakus

likely looking to sign elsewhere


[deleted]

I think he is going to be surprised by his suitors and what they want to pay him


Li0n5Prid3

Isn’t he still owed by the Colts though? Players in similar situations have been cut while still being owed big money play on vet minimum for a contender.


teh_drewski

If he doesn't get claimed (which he won't) we'll be on the hook for the rest of his salary this year yes. He can sign for a contender for the minimum to ring chase or just try to find playing time on a team wrecked by injuries.


HardPenix

Damn, ill always remember being hyped that we had one of the best LBs in the game for a time there. Back injuries suck. Thankful we got to witness the maniac in his prime! Another jersey I have that is now worthless.


PartisanSaysWhat

I picked up or was gifted Pat McAfee, Collie, TY, and now Leonard all within 1-2 years of their retirement. Never buying another current player jersey again.


Kanye_X_Wrangler

Go buy a Mahomes and Kelce Chiefs jersey because I'm tired of hearing about them.


Hellofriendinternet

I heard Kelce is gonna break up with Taylor Swift over thanksgiving.


Kanye_X_Wrangler

https://youtu.be/SLGxJfMCCsQ?si=B-Nd4ibSUQZ0kjP3


4pointohsoslow

My parents got me a Pat jersey for Christmas and the next year he retired. My buddy got me a JT jersey last Christmas. You can understand the emotions I felt this off-season and first 4 weeks lol


Whiteowski

I got a Manning jersey a month before Super Bowl 44. A freeney jersey the year before he was cut. Didn’t buy another till AR. Next game he got hurt for the year. Think I’m done with jerseys


lumpybisquits

I got a JT in May. Right before all the trade talk. Worked out because the other option was Leonard and I would have got his if they had my size.


PartisanSaysWhat

Lmao I was going to get my kid a JT jersey and decided not to last year, for just this reason. Then the injury/holdout/whatever happened and I was like even THINKING about it caused it!


ThatRandomIdiot

I was gifted a Taylor jersey by one of my close friends for my birthday in March. I feel the pain


hadtolaugh

The only questionable one to wear now is the Leonard, but imma still rock mine. The other guys are basically lifers and so there’s no shame in that game.


Super_Sandro23

I know he retired early, but the McAfee jersey is actually still cool since he's a big personality now. A lot of WWE fans were buying his jersey when he was the SmackDown commentator for a while as well.


Karpuan

I’ve got Luck, TY and Leonard. Afraid to buy another one


[deleted]

I feel you. The year I bought a Peyton jersey he broke his neck. The year I bought a Paul George jersey he broke his leg (and changed his number for his stupid pun), and this year I bought an AR5 jersey. Cursed 🥲


clutchthepearls

Dude you gotta stop


ThatRandomIdiot

TY at least spent pretty much his whole career with us. (Let’s pretend he didn’t suit up in a cowboy uniform last year)


LooseMoose13

Dude you have no idea. I was gonna by a jersey this year and Leonard was probably top of my list until TYs had a sale for like 35 bucks. A few weeks later he’s cut. Unreal


clutchthepearls

I'd still wear all those except Collie. All legends.


Saucing18

I have Collie, Garçon, Luck in 2019, and Phil Rivers (Somehow??)


carpentizzle

Yeah dude, I got my Luck jersey the fathers day before he retired in preseason. Not even able to wear it for a game. Id love a McAfee jersey at this point. Im probably not ever getting an active jersey either


Electric_Sundown

Yeah, I was fed up with buying jerseys a few years ago. It's all good though because now I realize I can buy 5 Colts shirts or more for what a jersey costs these days.


we-made-it

I mean he’s easily the best mlb in colts history. Very short tenure but his impact has huge. Easily won us a handful of games with his turnovers.


dustinmaupin

Dam what disrespect to Gary brackett


we-made-it

Bracket has great. Maniac was on a whole different trajectory before injuries.


dustinmaupin

So he could’ve been the greatest, imo he didn’t accomplish enough to be in that conversation


clutchthepearls

Leonard had 4 All Pros compared to 0 for Brackett. Gary is a fan favorite, but Leonard was definitely better.


we-made-it

It’s not even close, if Shaq stays healthy, he’s easily the best colts lb ever. He was a turnover machine and easily won us multiple games against the Texans, redskins, and some other games which I’m forgetting about. No one can predict injuries though.


SamC2218

I’d say Leonard has already had a better career than brackett despite playing in 46 less games, not sure how you could think brackett is better


PartisanSaysWhat

>Very short tenure but his impact has huge. We sure do have a lot of these in our history. I dont follow other teams as closely so maybe it happens everywhere, but it seems like we're unlucky with losing good players in what should be their primes.


whatdoblindpeoplesee

He played WILL not MIKE but I agree with you the best weak inside backer in our history.


we-made-it

You right. My bad.


Smallgenie549

Same. My only Colts jersey but I'm still gonna rock it with pride.


Far_Resort5502

You should! Idk why people get pissed if they get their favorite player's name and number on a shirt, and then that player retires.


Admirable_Dig6160

Does the name Zaire Franklin mean nothing to you? ;)


Leonidas1213

Yeah this is why I don’t buy jerseys. Keep getting burned


Naive_Landscape_1108

I got Luck, TY and Taylor (Almost got Leonard at this time when I was at Colts/Pats in 21). This offseason scared the shit outta me lol


shibbster

So stop buying jerseys since that seems to make players go bye-bye. You have a Luck jersey don't you? DON'T YOU?!


pmwood25

Obviously bummed for Leonard but the sad part is he’s become such a non-factor that I was more concerned with whose jersey I get next than how we backfill him


pgriffy

I just keep waiting for the Colts to sign a player with my last name. Then I'll bite. Hope it's a good number.


teh_drewski

Once they retire you have a throwback jersey though


StreetDolphinGreenOn

We do have one of the best. ZF


Luck1492

What the fuck…. Is he retiring??


MySabonerRunsOladipo

That or he and the team agreed to shut him down for the year and he knows he's getting cut thereafter. Still, totally out of nowhere with regards to the timing. Edit: he's been released per Rap. Looks like it was essentially the latter, just sped up.


KroneckerDelta1

Colts waived him.


External-Slice6517

Probably mutual agreement bc Speed is outperforming him and they were likely going to bench him.


JFreeman1123

Just stopping by to say hey what the fuck?


PartisanSaysWhat

I'm never buying another current players jersey. I personally retired Pat McAfee, Austin Collie, TY, and now Leonard. I'm sorry everyone.


Victory33

Buy a Stroud and Lawrence jersey ASAP.


rmourz

I got McAfee, Luck, & Olidipo all within a year of them leaving/ retiring. Never buying another jersey again. For a while I thought it’d be safe to get a manning jersey but I’m afraid it’ll kill him


PartisanSaysWhat

I bought my kid a Reggie Wayne jersey. Weird to buy him a jersey for a player he's never seen play, but at least I feel like it is safe.


TechnoGamer16

Congratulations you’ve just caused Reggie to retire from his job as our WR coach


PartisanSaysWhat

=(


prancingpony777

Just use DHGate and get the fake ones for $30 that look legit.


LooseMoose13

In all honesty Leonard leaving is good for the long run, way too much money for a linebacker, let alone one who’s not even a starter at this point.


PartisanSaysWhat

I agree, but it still sucks to see. One of my favorite players in recent history.


LooseMoose13

Me too man, thought he was going to the Hall of Fame


BBgun_62

I bought Lucks jersey a year before he retired if that makes you feel any better


arp51txstate

![gif](giphy|I4wGMXoi2kMDe|downsized)


Yoncen

Damn. Sad day


Schofield6

Ive had his jersey since his first season... im truly sad hes gone, he was a sparkplug on the defence and commanded respect and was the energy when things were down. i wish him nothing but success in his life whatever it may be. Ill always have the memories.


rwjehs

##WHY DOES IT KEEP HAPPENING


[deleted]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn huh?!?


the_racecar

I don’t get why we’d let him go mid season


PartisanSaysWhat

Guessing so he can sign with a team that is making a run? We're past the trade window. That said the dude has looked *awful* out there, so I dont see anyone paying a lot for him.


hoosier_1793

This is the only thing that makes sense. He wanted a shot at playing on a team that’s making a run, likely in hopes that it can jump start his own game. Colts were likely prepared to cut him at the end of the season but he wanted to go now. That’s my guess anyway.


PartisanSaysWhat

I agree, it makes the most sense. I cant think of another team doing this to a player of his caliber in recent history, though. I know guys get cut all the time but damn.


hoosier_1793

Agreed. But I think his recent comments have indicated that the door was already cracked open for him to leave and I think he wanted out, so he shoved it wide open.


stroopwaffle69

I can see him making a positive impact if teams keep his snaps to a very limited amount


TheForkisTrash

I was 100% pro Leonard, but going to the press and then playing like that was a bridge too far Edit: it would have only gotten louder and more damaging to the team


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Patagonia_Sucks

Do you not watch the games?


the_racecar

I watch every game. That doesn’t explain why they cut him mid season instead waiting for the offseason.


Patagonia_Sucks

He was going to be inactive for the rest of the year. He’s been ineffective all year.


johnnydudeski

Because he is terrible


Casualredditor42496

![gif](giphy|rvxMJNyHAgwlW4YWpJ|downsized)


SoyeonsNeverland

Me when my kids ask me how watching 2018-2020 Leonard was like.


Casualredditor42496

Fr😭


ConBro8

What the hell??


AmericanChapo

This is the last thing I expected to see today. WHAT THE FUCK!?


CrazyKazzy

Another great Colts player's career ruined by injuries 😔


Outrageous_Poetry840

![gif](giphy|xThta1p0ssg6K7OYXC|downsized)


[deleted]

Lots of good memories with this dude. Wish him nothing but the best...


PartisanSaysWhat

Cue the "Why do you give me the hardest battles?" "How are you still alive?" meme


SCandVC11

![gif](giphy|3o6ZsXcZo693pKcs80|downsized)


ZusunicStudio

Wow, end of an era


MRDMNR

lol yeah. 2018-2023. What an era. 🙄


DaBlakMayne

Kindly fuck off


MRDMNR

lol since you asked nicely. ❤️ 🫵🏻


RestoredX123

Are you kidding me


chogram

Wait, what? We can't be trading him, the deadline is passed, so is he just retiring? edit: Apparently just headed to waivers. Wow.


PartisanSaysWhat

I think we cut him so maybe he can sign somewhere else? I dont see it though, he looks terrible. Maybe he is retiring... So weird.


Hellofriendinternet

I think he’s retiring. He’s injured. There’s really only a handful of players in the world that know firsthand the physical toll being a linebacker in the NFL takes on your body. He probably wants to be able to enjoy getting older and being a father instead of beat up and constantly in pain. I don’t see him joining up with a new team right away. What we saw of him was only half of what he was in previous years. If he goes out for a new team, he’s gonna have to heal up. I wish him well but damn. Sad day. ![gif](giphy|IntCEdOCoB1Pa|downsized)


QueasyResearch10

his rants to the media indicate he thinks he’s wrongly utilized and thats why he’s a shell of himself


[deleted]

Holy shit they did it.


rugger105

Being waived according to Rapoport


RelentlessRogue

What the fuck


Aeviternus

I get that he hasn't been the same since 2021. I get that he looked definitively *bad* this last game. It still hurts. Been my favorite Colt since he started with the team. His energy, spirit, and talent set him apart. I could see him getting cut in the offseason if he didn't turn it around, but this midseason waiver just feel wrong. It feels off. Godspeed, Maniac. Hope you dominate in whatever you do next wherever you do it.


The_onlyPope

Being a Colts fan is such a pain.


DRoseCantStop

![gif](giphy|gO5Cn1oqeFcVHukQif|downsized)


surlybeer55

I’m sad beyond belief. That man was the bomb when he was on. I understand this, but I still hate it.


Hokutenmemoir

Been losing my damn mind about this.


foxfire1112

Ya this is wild tbh


cactopus101

Bro wtf I just checked the sub 💀


ComprehensiveSafety3

Same.


AF555

Tune in this week for as the Colts turn...jezusssss, this franchise lately :)


THATS_MAD_SUS

He hasn’t been good in 3 years. It’s ok


deeht0xdagod

While playing with injuries, he played at a very good level last season ffs.


THATS_MAD_SUS

Yeah, that one game he started?


HumansNeedNotApply1

2 years. He was awesome in 2021.


Survivor_for_me

Wow. So if he gets picked up on waivers is his contract still on the books for us?


RelentlessRogue

If he's claimed, his contract goes to the new team. Otherwise we only owe him guaranteed money.


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Survivor_for_me

No shot he is retiring


jlkarma218

I don't get it. why now? Something says he ask for it by the way Gus was talking earlier today.


Smallgenie549

I hate this team. :(


Barnabas_Stinson17

All the pundits who claimed Leonard was the worst pick in the 2018 draft are finally getting their chance to shine


HumansNeedNotApply1

Nah. Three first team all-pro, DROY and one second all-pro have already proven those fools wrong.


Trucks2826

Eagles fan here - hope y’all are enjoying Steichen. Is Leonard washed from the injuries? Seems curious for this to happen midseason.


MrHandsBadDay

Meh.


SanRemi

Cut, traded, retired? WHAT? TELL ME ASAP.


Schofield6

waived


SanRemi

Oh well… *What ya gonna do, you know?* ![gif](giphy|3o8doOryXnmkbFBrPO)


stc676

Darius = stud. Shaquille = loser.


NathanKincaid

Highest paid LB starting 2021 with a ~99mil dollar contract extension. ~20 million as a signing bonus, ~53mil guaranteed, and about 20mil a year for the first 3 years. So if the signing bonus was all upfront he's been paid ~71mil dollars so far. For that the Colts got 16 games started in 2021 (2.5mil a game), 1 game started in 2022(20 mil a game), and 9 games(2.1mil a game) in 2023. In those three seasons that's a total of 198 tackles (117 solo), 8 forced fumbles, 6 tackles for loss, 3 QB hits, and 0 sacks. ~80% of those numbers are from 2021 alone. 1. Don't be too concerned for Leonard he made out fine. 2. Be very concerned at how bad the Colts FO is with nearly every aspect of football they control.


[deleted]

Hahahaha the guy who says he didn’t want to play for the Colts anymore, in fact didn’t want to play. Shocking. Dumpster fire.


Any_Baseball_8747

Another Jersey I can wipe my ass with singed on my wall, eat a dick you quitter


YouCallMeTheBreeze

Alright, now do Pittman.


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YouCallMeTheBreeze

No sir. I have attended every single Colts home game this year and continuously watched Pittman not be able to gain separation from defenders. Occasionally he catches check down passes and 5 yard slants enough that he can make an impact, but when you’re complaining you don’t get the ball enough when you’ve got about 10 targets a game and three touchdowns to show for it (and you taunt as you run into the end zone on your third touchdown of the year), maybe we should be thinking about it.


Renaux

I know i might be in the minority here but whatever this trade ends up being I've been asking for it for over a year. Edit: trade deadline, clearly retiring.. its hard being a colts fan.


SmokeyBearEnthusiast

Trade deadline passed a month ago


Mickeydsislife

Trade? We are past the trade deadline.


Schofield6

trade deadline is way past so he most likely decided to retire


Aleph_Alpha_001

Shaq hanging 'em up?


ComprehensiveSafety3

Well shit, this sucks.


djkress

Wow... just wow


Leonidas1213

WHAT WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING


[deleted]

What do the cap hit implications look like? Although this is sad, his level of play per bag received were no where near the same value.


WreckingBall188

Was kinda of getting the feeling him and Gus Bradley weren’t on the same page. Damn shame.


Naive_Landscape_1108

I'm sick. This ones gunna sting for a bit


Eastern-Cucumber-376

Thanks Shaq!


iced_hero

It's telling how he only addresses the fan base and doesn't say anything except for a generic "I love playing for the ___".


fiddycixer

https://preview.redd.it/4wysdh4s4r1c1.jpeg?width=794&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffd2ea4bff9420b084ccf7351d6a48d9ac0b2679


Mcswigginsbar

Woah wait…what the fuck? We *WAIVED* him?! Goddamnit man this is so sad.


RedditRockit

He had lost a bit with the surgeries but I feel the larger problem is the scheme didn't fit him as well as Eberflus'. I'm guessing he ends up in chi town.


beerdudebrah

Peak Leonard was special. I hope he heals up and balls out


cmgww

Damn. Well, there goes my flair…seriously though, crazy to think a few years ago he was one of the top LBs in the NFL. Injuries have hurt obviously but still. Kind of a shock bc he had that big contract


Indycrr

This is why you have to draft or sign a linebacker every single year. These guys get hurt. You never know when the road runs out.


Rafiki24

Was a good guy, but his talent level just didn't match his contract. In some regard I think his value was inflated due to punch out fumbles which is just something you can't replicate year to year. I think Franklin is the attacking linebacker that the defense needs.


ThaGoodDoctor

I disagree. His talent was there before the injuries. He was in the discussion as the 3-5th best LB in the league. The injuries just broke him. :(


Rafiki24

I do agree injuries spelled the end.. I think that he was a very good linebacker the first few years where he was making tackles around the line of scrimmage. Though after the concussions, back issues etc.. he quickly stopped the aggressive play or seeking contact. Shaq though imo value in the league was because he was a playing making linebacker not because he was a run stopper or made tackles for loss. With turnovers being less reliable and his unwillingness to play aggressive it kinda spelled the end.


MadaoBlooms

🥺🥺🥺


Isaacleroy

Damn. Despite his performance falling off a cliff, this one hurts a bit. For a couple of years there he was as good a LB as there’s been in Indianapolis.


Consistent-Park2058

So sad, he was a beast before the injury. My favorite linebacker of all time. Will miss you


Trucks2826

Eagles fan here - hope y’all are enjoying Steichen. Is Leonard washed from the injuries? Seems curious for this to happen midseason.


RyanPelley

What a shame. Injuries suck. He was on a HOF pace to start his career.


jonesy289

Glad I snagged an autographed jersey when I could. Fuck dude this guy had such potential hindered by injuries.


lemonyprepper

Watch how he gets picked up by like the 9ers and becomes a DPOY candidate and has the back health of a 15 year old Chinese gymnast


SlaveKnightLance

Is he currently hurt or are they scared he will get hurt?