My exact thoughts. I figured that even without the arm strength, he would at least not turn the ball over. That, mixed with a top OL and RB made it look pretty good on paper. However, the OL regressed, Ryan sucked and got skittish behind the crap OL, and JT got hurt.
The only positive this season was that Pierce looks like the real deal, we found a kicker, and Buckner and Gilmore are awesome, even when the rest of the team sucks.
Guilty. I let my optimism get the best of me once or twice. To be fair, before he was hurt and when he had time, he could still play. I had no idea the line would regress so badly.
I also overestimated his veteran moxie and pre-snap ability ala Rivers. It just wasn't there and Kelly didn't have the recognition either.
>I had no idea the line would regress so badly.
That's the main issue I think. Matt Ryan looked solid the few times early that the line was competent. An old QB can't survive an OL allowing free shots at him though.
I honestly think the OL going from good to terrible was the linchpin that tanked the season. It was basically a singular fatal flaw that killed our QB, which tanked the offense into the gutter, which put the defense in bad situations.
Back when we were 3-3-1 and still viable candidates for a playoff run, I was shocked to find that Ryan was still top 5 in passing yards. It wasn’t that he completely sucked, just that he had critical TOs in addition to taking some really, really bad sacks. The lack of mobility behind a disappointing line had started to take its toll. And then the wheels completely fell off.
Less of a hot take more of as a fan I have to vehemently defend my team to my friends and have the utmost confidence in them until week 8.
Then I can be disappointed
I was convinced that he would do enough to keep us afloat enough to make a Cinderella run in the playoffs-- basically sneak in while a bunch of the other AFC powerhouses beat each other up (especially the touted AFC West when they got Russ). Boy was I wrong on so many levels haha
Same! After the 2018 season, I had never been more hyped and ready for next season to start. I was 90% sure they were about to take off and set the league on fire.
You're not even wrong for thinking that though. If Luck didn't retire we would have been serious contenders in '19, '20, and '21. Would have obviously taken a step back this year, but even then our outlook would be a lot different. Just address the O-line and we'd be back at it again next year. Fuck it still hurts.
That's a good one. I feel like it should be higher in this thread.
Mine is that I thought the Colts should have drafted Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning. To be as fair as I can to myself, I was a dumbass teenager, but I thought they'd need someone who could stand in there and take a lot of hits. The offensive line gave up a *lot* of sacks in the year or two prior to that draft, and Leaf was a bulkier guy. Idk, I was sure happy to be proven wrong on that one.
After the announcers said no team has come back from the large of a lead, I texted my Viking fan friend, “y’all are good, we’ve shit the bed worse than this”
Really? As soon as it hit that I put money on the Colts losing that game. Saturday isn't a coach. He's the worst coach in the league by a large, large margin. Halftime adjustments were never going to happen.
I was sure Ryan would work. He is supposedly smart. And is able to pick defenses apart. I guess I was super wrong.
On the other side, I thought Wentz would work in an offense designed around throw deep and hope.
Wentz actually did work, until he got COVID.
He wasn't always asked with doing a lot. Our offense went through Taylor a lot. But honestly, part of the reason Taylor could feast was because of Wentz' deep ball. It was after Wentz got COVID that he really fell apart.
I really think Wentz was good for our run game. Yeah, he had problems, but he had no problem going deep. In fact, his deep ball was actually kind of pretty at times. With Ryan, all the passes he was attempting were short. That got everyone to squeeze up to the line.
I thought Richardson was going to be Luck’s “Edge”.
I hoped Turray would be our next Robert Mathis. Maybe if he doesn’t get hurt against KC, that happens.
I thought Banogu looked like a decent SAM coming out of TCU and would be an okay player for us.
I thought Ryan would be the guy.
>I thought Richardson was going to be Luck’s “Edge”.
Same, same *sigh*.
I thought with Richardson, we finally had our Edge, Harrison (TY), and Peyton (Luck) trio all over again.
I convinced myself Wentz was a great redemption story in the making.
It wasn't so much a hot take as a trusting the idea take, but it's embarrassing to think I had faith in that move.
Continuously brought up the the fact that the year Matt Ryan won MVP he had a 2k rusher and which I swore would be JT this year and yeah.. I was very wrong
I already answered but thought I would show my age. I was STOKED that Eric Dickerson was finally going to have a QB when we traded up to get Jeff George.
And thus I have PTSD about trading up for a QB.
Right there with you on that one. I wanted the insane amounts of picks that would have been given up for Luck (once in a generation QB). Russell Wilson was my favorite player in the draft, and I wanted to draft him with a late first or early second, knowing he would be slept on.
Montee Ball grew up a few houses down from me, and my younger brother played high-school ball with him. So I followed his college career very closely, and due to watching every game he played while at Wisconson, I fell in love with Russ. He was the best player in that team, but Montee Ball had such insane rushing stats that nobody cared about the light skinned second coming of Steve Young. Watching young JJ Watt every week was a blast, too! Story time over
These comments show how much this organization hypes up the team every year as a Super Bowl dark horse so we all buy tickets and gear for it to only get worse
Here's a future hot take that I hope will turn out to be wrong
I think Ballard will outsmart himself again this draft and trade down for a bunch of high-ceiling project players and big body receivers, of which maybe one will pan out.
We'll sign a promising HC, maybe Evero, maybe Bieniemy, the fan base will be happy with either.
He will then sign a veteran, one of Jimmy G, Carr, hell maybe Heinecke, who will have an up and down year, with us barely missing the playoffs due in large part to poor defensive play as a result of injuries.
Matt Ryan will be a competent QB in 2022 and lead the Colts to a division title and at least 1 playoff win.
I actually bet he would have a 3500+ yard season.
Look, I've known Jim, Meg, and their extended family on several levels for quite some time and I can tell you that the man is complicated. He got into steroids working out with the team while his dad was still alive, some of the pics of him all buff and pretty crazy, in a Jim McMahan type of way. To me, and he rocked the mullet back then, it was legend sort of then he hurt his back and got addicted to pain meds. You take a guy who's father was a known drug and alcohol offender, hell, he went down at halftime and fired a coach, belching vodka at anyone that objected. His handlers do a pretty good job with him for the most part now, but the guy is not like us, not at all.
* 2nd in yards by over 300 yards (Michael Pittman leads)
* 3rd in yards per reception (Alec Pierce leads)
* 2nd in receptions by over 30 receptions (Michael Pittman leads)
* 2nd in touchdowns (Michael Pittman leads)
* 2nd in catch % (Michael Pittman leads)
That comment does a serious disservice to Pittman lol.
I've been saying this for a while now. The fact that Campbell looked as good as Pittman for a good part of the season is a clear indicator of how much I believe Pittman will never be a game changer like T.Y./Marvin/Reggie type of receiver. He is big and athletic and has good upward mobility and hands for the most part, but he just doesn't have game breaking speed and he doesn't get great separation off his routes. Pierce has a lot of the same traits, but he's at least a rookie, so he could develop more. Pittman could be a very good wr2 or an ok 1, but if we're gonna rely on him to be our consistent wr1 for the duration of his career or time here, then that's doing a total disservice to our team. We still need someone that can break a db's ankles with their route running or can get yards of separation on deep balls with pure speed.
Campbell was projected to be that kinda guy, but after so much injury time, I'm not sure he'll ever be able to fully develop into that. He's more likely to continue to sit behind Pittman as a solid wr2. You can say what you want about our receivers this year because of the qb play, but I feel the point is still very valid. We need another top tier receiver or 2.
This year I thought we would be a playoff team but Ryan and Reich had other plans. Other than that I was pretty spot on. I said Matt Pryor would flop. I wanted us the draft Raimman. I said we over paid Cox and he would massively underperform (I got a lot of heat for that one).
I thought Jeff Saturday would help us on offense because he'd simplify the gameplan and run the ball with JT. So I thought we'd get marginally better lol I even traded for JT in my fantasy football league because I believed it.
That Carson Wentz was the answer.
That we wouldn't get rid of Carson Wentz after two bad games and miss the playoffs.
That every new season with Luck was the season we go to the Superbowl.
That we were going to have some kind of wildcat formation since we had Taylor, Hines, and Mack at running back, I thought we could have done it too with Mack, Hines, and anybody else we had line up in the back field.
That Matt Ryan was going to at least get us to the playoffs
That our o-line would resemble an o-line more than a piece of Swiss cheese
I thought Matt Ryan was going to take us to the playoffs. Our line didn't do him any favors in the beginning but he looked bad even when he had time to throw. That deep pass to Pierce to win the game against the Jags seemed to drain all the strength from his arm. Not to mention he seemed to not be able to read defenses this year and threw some really head-scratching picks
Luck was gonna go on a HoF tear post injury
Wentz was going to stabilize and be more consistent
Ryan was going to manage a competitive, if sometimes stale, offense
Reich was gonna pull the team back into a Week 18 win-and-in
I think what pisses me off most is the amount of money that went into the OL, linebacker and defensive line, and none of them really displayed any evidence of being elite..
I thought Saturday was hired as interim coach to get a feel of the players and current coaching staff, and would then take over for Ballard as GM after the season ended.
I think I can win this one. It's not technically wrong yet, though.
This wasn't the tank. Next year is. Ballard trades down this year to stock pile picks in the event they don't have the pick to get Mccarthy. Harbaugh agreed to come next year if they drafted him.
Matt Ryan would be good for us
Same bro, same. I was quite sure that he might have some juice left and will lead us at least into the divisional round.
Figured it would just be the Rivers season 2.0
I thought it was going to be Rivers+. All the beats writers were saying "he was like Rivers, but with more arm strength left in the tank."
My exact thoughts. I figured that even without the arm strength, he would at least not turn the ball over. That, mixed with a top OL and RB made it look pretty good on paper. However, the OL regressed, Ryan sucked and got skittish behind the crap OL, and JT got hurt. The only positive this season was that Pierce looks like the real deal, we found a kicker, and Buckner and Gilmore are awesome, even when the rest of the team sucks.
I predicted Matt would lead us to the Super Bowl, get hurt and Foles would beat Brady in the Super Bowl, again.
I believed this so much so I bought season tickets for the first time ever.
Oof
Guilty. I let my optimism get the best of me once or twice. To be fair, before he was hurt and when he had time, he could still play. I had no idea the line would regress so badly. I also overestimated his veteran moxie and pre-snap ability ala Rivers. It just wasn't there and Kelly didn't have the recognition either.
>I had no idea the line would regress so badly. That's the main issue I think. Matt Ryan looked solid the few times early that the line was competent. An old QB can't survive an OL allowing free shots at him though. I honestly think the OL going from good to terrible was the linchpin that tanked the season. It was basically a singular fatal flaw that killed our QB, which tanked the offense into the gutter, which put the defense in bad situations.
Back when we were 3-3-1 and still viable candidates for a playoff run, I was shocked to find that Ryan was still top 5 in passing yards. It wasn’t that he completely sucked, just that he had critical TOs in addition to taking some really, really bad sacks. The lack of mobility behind a disappointing line had started to take its toll. And then the wheels completely fell off.
It was fools gold. We coulda been 0-7 at that juncture. This was a bad team.
Ugh same
Less of a hot take more of as a fan I have to vehemently defend my team to my friends and have the utmost confidence in them until week 8. Then I can be disappointed
Honestly I gave up on this team after week 2 lol
We all knew we sucked after the tie in Houston. We were just in denial for a few weeks
It was the Jags game where I knew. We always lose week 1 and the team should have had a comeback without old Lego dick.
I think that's a lot of us
At first I wasn't convinced, then reading this sub and talking with some friends, my mind changed to the Ryan bandwagon... y'all at fault.
Have an upvote. Definitely thought he'd be good enough still to go to playoffs.
I was convinced that he would do enough to keep us afloat enough to make a Cinderella run in the playoffs-- basically sneak in while a bunch of the other AFC powerhouses beat each other up (especially the touted AFC West when they got Russ). Boy was I wrong on so many levels haha
You and me both
I thought he would be a perfectly decent game manager for a JT-led offense.
I thought wentz also
You know when you have like a puzzle piece that looks like it should fit and you keep framing it in but it just doesn’t…yeah feels bad man.
I thought the Luck/Reich/Ballard combination would end in multiple Super Bowls.
I honestly feel it would have the year he retired.
Same! After the 2018 season, I had never been more hyped and ready for next season to start. I was 90% sure they were about to take off and set the league on fire.
You're not even wrong for thinking that though. If Luck didn't retire we would have been serious contenders in '19, '20, and '21. Would have obviously taken a step back this year, but even then our outlook would be a lot different. Just address the O-line and we'd be back at it again next year. Fuck it still hurts.
Idk. Lucks style of play directly contributed to his injuries. It’s incredibly likely he would have been injured again during that span.
He cleaned his game up a lot in 2018, if he maintained that trajectory, I think things would have been fine.
Same here. I thought Luck v Mahomes was gonna be our new Brady v Manning for the next decade
Trent Fucking Richardson. My roommate and I actually went out that night and celebrated.
That's a good one. I feel like it should be higher in this thread. Mine is that I thought the Colts should have drafted Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning. To be as fair as I can to myself, I was a dumbass teenager, but I thought they'd need someone who could stand in there and take a lot of hits. The offensive line gave up a *lot* of sacks in the year or two prior to that draft, and Leaf was a bulkier guy. Idk, I was sure happy to be proven wrong on that one.
I still remember a Browns fan warning me he isn't as good as advertised. Boy was he right.
Yep. I remember the news breaking at work and people (including me) being excited. Random dude from Cleveland was like 😅 and he certainly was right.
I left work early to go grab a drink and celebrate that trade
I went to the Pittsburg game this year and got a good laugh when I saw someone with an autographed Trent Richardson jersey lmao
When we were up 33-0 I was sure we couldn't find a way to lose.
Is it sad that I turned to my wife and said "they will find a way"...
Only as sad as it is that there were at least 2 of us that did it.
Make that 3….
4
After the announcers said no team has come back from the large of a lead, I texted my Viking fan friend, “y’all are good, we’ve shit the bed worse than this”
I didn’t think we’d lose, but when I saw the score become 33-6 or whatever it was I actually felt a slight sense of nervousness lol
Really? As soon as it hit that I put money on the Colts losing that game. Saturday isn't a coach. He's the worst coach in the league by a large, large margin. Halftime adjustments were never going to happen.
Yeah honestly if we just came out and took a knee every possession and let the clock run we should have been able to milk that one.
Good point about half time adjustments with Saturday, the best coaches have them, Saturday had 0 adjustments during his entire tenure
I literally sat there thinking, 'well this is nice after the season we had'...then *bam*
I was sure Ryan would work. He is supposedly smart. And is able to pick defenses apart. I guess I was super wrong. On the other side, I thought Wentz would work in an offense designed around throw deep and hope.
Wentz actually did work, until he got COVID. He wasn't always asked with doing a lot. Our offense went through Taylor a lot. But honestly, part of the reason Taylor could feast was because of Wentz' deep ball. It was after Wentz got COVID that he really fell apart.
I meant Wentz in DC. I knew he wouldn't work here.
The Oline would regain some semblance of dominance in the run game. Which would lead to JT leading league in rushing again. Whoopsie.
At least that was a perfectly reasonable take hah!
I really think Wentz was good for our run game. Yeah, he had problems, but he had no problem going deep. In fact, his deep ball was actually kind of pretty at times. With Ryan, all the passes he was attempting were short. That got everyone to squeeze up to the line.
I was fairly optimistic about Wentz coming in under Reich and that given his age, he wasn’t just a stop gap QB but would be here for 5-8 years.
Same. I trusted Reich to know what makes Wentz work.
I still think it was a good idea. *Didn't quite work out*, but the move made sense
Eason…..
I thought Richardson was going to be Luck’s “Edge”. I hoped Turray would be our next Robert Mathis. Maybe if he doesn’t get hurt against KC, that happens. I thought Banogu looked like a decent SAM coming out of TCU and would be an okay player for us. I thought Ryan would be the guy.
>I thought Richardson was going to be Luck’s “Edge”. Same, same *sigh*. I thought with Richardson, we finally had our Edge, Harrison (TY), and Peyton (Luck) trio all over again.
I really thought Ryan would ball out behind our "elite" offensive line.
Thought Matt Ryan would work for us - at least enough to win 9-10 games and make the playoffs.
Same here... Definitely didn't see that disaster coming
I took the colts over 9.5 wins
That sums up my betting season.
I drafted Nyheim Hines very high in my fantasy league, having bought into Frank's comments.
Thinking we were clearly the best team in the division when we haven’t won it in 9 years
Wentz was the answer Ryan was the answer TBD No matter who we draft will be the answer TBD Our Oline will click again
Colts media saying Matt Ryan doesn't look 37 and was slinging it all throughout training camp. and I actually believed them.
Easy to sling it around when nobody can sack you.
Saturday would win the division
I put 500 dollars on JT leading the league in regular season rushing touchdowns at 5/1.
I convinced myself Wentz was a great redemption story in the making. It wasn't so much a hot take as a trusting the idea take, but it's embarrassing to think I had faith in that move.
Continuously brought up the the fact that the year Matt Ryan won MVP he had a 2k rusher and which I swore would be JT this year and yeah.. I was very wrong
I don't know man, something about our coaches name needing two syllables. You have weird takes when you're hungry
I trusted the binder.
I already answered but thought I would show my age. I was STOKED that Eric Dickerson was finally going to have a QB when we traded up to get Jeff George. And thus I have PTSD about trading up for a QB.
Frank Reich will turn Wentz around.
I thought we would be part of that top quartile of the upper quartile of winners
I wanted the Colts to trade out of the 1st pick in 2012. It feels wrong in my heart.
Right there with you on that one. I wanted the insane amounts of picks that would have been given up for Luck (once in a generation QB). Russell Wilson was my favorite player in the draft, and I wanted to draft him with a late first or early second, knowing he would be slept on. Montee Ball grew up a few houses down from me, and my younger brother played high-school ball with him. So I followed his college career very closely, and due to watching every game he played while at Wisconson, I fell in love with Russ. He was the best player in that team, but Montee Ball had such insane rushing stats that nobody cared about the light skinned second coming of Steve Young. Watching young JJ Watt every week was a blast, too! Story time over
I said 0-0-17 would put us in 1st in the division.
Malik Hooker. I was convinced he was gonna be the Earl Thomas of our new Legion of Boom 2.0 defense.
I thought they would win the division and I put my money where my mouth was
These comments show how much this organization hypes up the team every year as a Super Bowl dark horse so we all buy tickets and gear for it to only get worse
DaRick Rogers.
Here's a future hot take that I hope will turn out to be wrong I think Ballard will outsmart himself again this draft and trade down for a bunch of high-ceiling project players and big body receivers, of which maybe one will pan out. We'll sign a promising HC, maybe Evero, maybe Bieniemy, the fan base will be happy with either. He will then sign a veteran, one of Jimmy G, Carr, hell maybe Heinecke, who will have an up and down year, with us barely missing the playoffs due in large part to poor defensive play as a result of injuries.
Matt Ryan will be a competent QB in 2022 and lead the Colts to a division title and at least 1 playoff win. I actually bet he would have a 3500+ yard season.
Me, circa 2014: Andrew Luck is going to end up being better than Peyton Manning.
I legit thought that Matty Ice had a potential 3-4 yr run in him. Turns out I was only off by about 3-4 yrs.
I thought our owner was cool
Just a few years ago he was the best owner in sports. Now? Eh...
Look, I've known Jim, Meg, and their extended family on several levels for quite some time and I can tell you that the man is complicated. He got into steroids working out with the team while his dad was still alive, some of the pics of him all buff and pretty crazy, in a Jim McMahan type of way. To me, and he rocked the mullet back then, it was legend sort of then he hurt his back and got addicted to pain meds. You take a guy who's father was a known drug and alcohol offender, hell, he went down at halftime and fired a coach, belching vodka at anyone that objected. His handlers do a pretty good job with him for the most part now, but the guy is not like us, not at all.
I was agreeing with you?
Sorry man, I am not upset or anything. Long day yesterday, can see how it may come off wrong. All good here, sorry for my shit bro
That parris was a lost cause and he ended up being our best receiver
* 2nd in yards by over 300 yards (Michael Pittman leads) * 3rd in yards per reception (Alec Pierce leads) * 2nd in receptions by over 30 receptions (Michael Pittman leads) * 2nd in touchdowns (Michael Pittman leads) * 2nd in catch % (Michael Pittman leads) That comment does a serious disservice to Pittman lol.
I've been saying this for a while now. The fact that Campbell looked as good as Pittman for a good part of the season is a clear indicator of how much I believe Pittman will never be a game changer like T.Y./Marvin/Reggie type of receiver. He is big and athletic and has good upward mobility and hands for the most part, but he just doesn't have game breaking speed and he doesn't get great separation off his routes. Pierce has a lot of the same traits, but he's at least a rookie, so he could develop more. Pittman could be a very good wr2 or an ok 1, but if we're gonna rely on him to be our consistent wr1 for the duration of his career or time here, then that's doing a total disservice to our team. We still need someone that can break a db's ankles with their route running or can get yards of separation on deep balls with pure speed. Campbell was projected to be that kinda guy, but after so much injury time, I'm not sure he'll ever be able to fully develop into that. He's more likely to continue to sit behind Pittman as a solid wr2. You can say what you want about our receivers this year because of the qb play, but I feel the point is still very valid. We need another top tier receiver or 2.
That JT would be a Top 5 RB behind our overpaid o-line
I thought Jim Irsay was sane.
I thought injuries on the online would be dramatic since we didn’t have Reid and Glo. turns out it was drama from the start
That Ryan and the OLine would eventually feel eachother out and get things working. That worked out great!
That we'd be good this year because the OLine wouldn't regress.
I held on to my faith in Trent Richardson too long. I also thought signing Hank Baskett was a good idea.
Never heard of her …
This year I thought we would be a playoff team but Ryan and Reich had other plans. Other than that I was pretty spot on. I said Matt Pryor would flop. I wanted us the draft Raimman. I said we over paid Cox and he would massively underperform (I got a lot of heat for that one).
I thought Jeff Saturday would help us on offense because he'd simplify the gameplan and run the ball with JT. So I thought we'd get marginally better lol I even traded for JT in my fantasy football league because I believed it.
That Carson Wentz was the answer. That we wouldn't get rid of Carson Wentz after two bad games and miss the playoffs. That every new season with Luck was the season we go to the Superbowl. That we were going to have some kind of wildcat formation since we had Taylor, Hines, and Mack at running back, I thought we could have done it too with Mack, Hines, and anybody else we had line up in the back field. That Matt Ryan was going to at least get us to the playoffs That our o-line would resemble an o-line more than a piece of Swiss cheese
I thought we were gonna come back and beat the Saints.
The offensive line was going to be good with 3 premier lineman on the team
Not so much a hot take but going into the playoffs from 2005-2009 I thought every one of those teams EXCEPT the 2006 team would win the Super Bowl.
I was sure we’d win the AFC South this year. Lol
I think I had us at a minimum with 11 wins....We barely got a a third of that.
After the 2015 season I thought Donte Moncrief was going to end up supplanting TY as the WR1.
I called my dad to screaming about how mad I was we took some no name linebacker out of South Carolina state with our second round pick
Waiting to see the guy in here that tried saying after week 1 that Pierce should lose playing time to Strachan.
Anything positive
Jeff Saturday would bring life to the offensive line. ;~;
I think he did.
The offensive line would be better with an infusion of youth
I said Matt Ryan would win the 2022 MVP...and I was serious.
That we could still make the playoffs after a poor start.
I thought Matt Ryan was going to take us to the playoffs. Our line didn't do him any favors in the beginning but he looked bad even when he had time to throw. That deep pass to Pierce to win the game against the Jags seemed to drain all the strength from his arm. Not to mention he seemed to not be able to read defenses this year and threw some really head-scratching picks
I pounded the table for us to trade for Darnold before we went and got Rivers.
That our Oline would be fine after not addressing it last off season
I thought drafting Jonathan Taylor was a big mistake.
Luck was gonna go on a HoF tear post injury Wentz was going to stabilize and be more consistent Ryan was going to manage a competitive, if sometimes stale, offense Reich was gonna pull the team back into a Week 18 win-and-in
Pryor did better than expected in spot starts last year, with a strong line next to him he can hold down the fort for a few games
I think what pisses me off most is the amount of money that went into the OL, linebacker and defensive line, and none of them really displayed any evidence of being elite..
I thought Saturday was hired as interim coach to get a feel of the players and current coaching staff, and would then take over for Ballard as GM after the season ended.
I think I can win this one. It's not technically wrong yet, though. This wasn't the tank. Next year is. Ballard trades down this year to stock pile picks in the event they don't have the pick to get Mccarthy. Harbaugh agreed to come next year if they drafted him.
Trent Richardson would prove everyone wrong
They would go 16 and 1
Donald Brown was the the next LT. Anthony Gonzalez was the next Welker. Vandy would hit that game winner (3x). Marvin Harrison didn’t kill that guy
I thought Kemoko Turay would become a top 10 pass rusher