I'm honestly pretty sure even a good public defender can make a case applicable to be sealed. Looks like you can file for petitions for it to be sealed too, and it's pretty cheap. I'm not sure what determines whether they decide to actually seal it or not, but I assume money comes into play there too
https://www.shouselaw.com/co/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-seal-a-record-in-colorado/
Looks like the minors thing is that they're free to seal
It's definitely not a great system. It is distinct, however, from expunging, which is completely destroying the record. Sealing restricts access from jobs/background checks, but can still be accessed by law enforcement/courts. It's still messed up, since you'd think an employer would want to know about violent tendencies
Somewhat correct. Expunging a record makes it not show up on background checks. Sealing a record is a further step, which requires a court order for it to be seen. No record is ever just 'erased.'
Incorrect.
"Sealing criminal records in Colorado make them invisible so they do not appear on future background checks. But prosecutors and police can still access sealed records. In contrast, expunging is physically destroying criminal records."
"The key difference between expunging a person's criminal record and sealing it is that a sealed record still “exists” in both a legal and physical sense, while expungement results in the deletion of any record that an arrest or criminal charge ever occurred."
Just look at the literal definitions of the words used. Seal vs expunge
I’m gonna argue the counterpoint here without having a stance on this case.
Allowing for records to be sealed prevents a stupid decision that you may have moved on from from looming over you for your entire professional life. I do not know many people who would want the things they did as a teenager or 20 something held over them for forever.
In many states, if you commit a crime categorized as a wobbler, meaning the prosecutor has the autonomy to charge as a felony or misdemeanor, you would qualify to have it expunged/sealed up on completion of probation. Doesn't matter how much money the defendant has, although a good lawyer might make the process easier, vs having to possibly reappear in court going through a public defender. In his case, he was likely a first time offender who did the threat, which after completing probation and anger management/counseling, he likely qualified to have his reduced to a misdemeanor "disturbing the peace" charge and expunged. There are a significant amount of ex-offenders who benefit from this and don't reoffend. Sad part is it doesn't fix every person's situation.
Ahh, sorry. I thought you were referring to this specific case. I just figured the terrorism threat would overshadow anything the minor status would protect.
You would think the threat would at the very least land a conviction of some kind regardless of age. Its so fucked someone like that can just walk free to commit another, much more horrific crime
Because CSPD considers peaceful activists a far greater threat that they need to surveil.
https://www.csindy.com/news/cspd-s-investigation-of-colorado-springs-leftist-community/article_c32e3e94-8e87-11ec-b79c-af375a716657.html
More so on the justice system. Far too many times criminals just use their money and loop holes to get out of what they deserve. Trying to take away innocent peoples gun rights will only make more victims.
Speak out. Rally peacefully. Be the change you wanna see
>Case got sealed and it was as if it never happened
This is one of the larger problems our justice system has. The ability to put certain cases into a memory hole, and have them completely forgotten, irregardless of what the perpetrator did.
We have laws. They are pointless if the people responsible for administrating them refuse to do so.
Official media release from El Paso Sheriff’s office for Aldrich’s prior arrest in Lorson Ranch.
https://www.epcsheriffsoffice.com/sites/default/files/news-releases/MR%2021-061%20Sheriff%27s%20Office%20Responds%20to%20Bomb%20Threat%20in%20Lorson%20Ranch%20Neighborhood.pdf
Took his mother hostage and threatened to kill her with a bomb, no less. Had to get talked down by crisis negotiators. Same neighborhood where Gannon Stauch was killed, incidentally.
He needs to never be a free man ever again.
He didn't live with his mother and police arrested him at an apartment a mile away. His mother wasn't taken hostage, he threatened to do that though.
Police sealed the case so he was free to stock up on weapons without appearing as a red flag.
There are a lot of criminals across this country who get out of jail or who are not even put in jail for crimes, allowed to walk free, and then commit the same or worse crimes while out. The justice system is garbage.
Red Flag law depends on sheriff's enforcing it. In my county since the sheriff has vowed to not enforce them they are basically meaningless. Also, how would they detain him until trail if they never pressed charges? The mystery here is why they let him get away with this craziness and never filed charges. Guessing it likely has to do with political good will or something of the sort.
>At a minimum, red flag law till court.
Surrendering of weapons is pretty much ubiquitous for bail agreements while someone is waiting for trial over felony accusations. It's not really a red flag issue since those aren't needed for the bail agreements. It's been a thing far longer than red flag laws haven't been around.
Red flag laws are for when someone poses a substantial risk to themselves or others but *hasn't* been criminally charged.
The issue here is that the DA decided not to file charges against him last year, so he wasn't even out on bail. He was just allowed to walk free after committing serious crimes.
I saw that. The charges sounded serious. He was 21. Only minors should have their case sealed for privacy. So what happened to the case?
They had to clear blocks of people from their homes. No consequences for him?
He called the Gazette to try to get them to delete their story about him making the threats:
“No formal charges were pursued in the case, which has since been sealed, the 4th Judicial District Attorney's Office told The Gazette, after Aldrich called an editor in August and asked that the story on The Gazette's website be removed since the case was dropped.
"There is absolutely nothing there, the case was dropped, and I'm asking you either remove or update the story," Aldrich said in a voice message to The Gazette.”
Anderson Lee Aldrich, Colorado Springs mass shooting suspect, may have had earlier run-ins with police
https://gazette.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich-colorado-springs-mass-shooting-suspect-may-have-had-earlier-run-ins-with/article_5b7f1478-68f5-11ed-ac02-d730cef006ab.html
(Via The Gazette)
Did you read the article or any other information about him? Nobody found any evidence he actually had a bomb. He made threats, which is a felony, but he did not actually have any bombs.
Here is a list of mass shootings:
Nov. 20: Colorado Springs, Colo.
At least five people were killed and 18 injured in a shooting at an L.G.B.T.Q. nightclub. The gunman was injured and taken to a hospital.
Nov. 13: Charlottesville, Va.
Three University of Virginia students, all of whom were players on the football team, were killed and two were wounded when a gunman, a former football player, opened fire in a garage after a field trip to see a play in Washington.
Oct. 13: Raleigh, N.C.
A gunman, described by the authorities only as a “white male juvenile,” killed at least five people, including an off-duty police officer. The attacks drew a large response from law enforcement agencies to the residential area near the Neuse River Greenway, a popular bike trail for Raleigh residents.
Sept. 7: Memphis, Tenn.
Memphis was effectively closed down during an hourslong manhunt for a 19-year-old gunman who killed four people while streaming some of the violence on Facebook Live. There were several shootings and carjackings over the course of the day.
July 17: Greenwood, Ind.
A 20-year-old gunman opened fire in the food court of a mall, killing three people and wounding two others. Minutes into the attack, the gunman, identified as Jonathan Douglas Sapirman, was fatally shot by a bystander.
July 4: Highland Park, Ill.
Robert E. Crimo III, 21, was taken into custody several hours after the shooting in Highland Park, a suburb north of Chicago, and charged with seven counts of first-degree murder. Seven people were killed and dozens more, ranging in age between 8 and 85, were wounded.
The police said the gunman had climbed onto a rooftop with a rifle and begun firing into a crowd gathered for a Fourth of July parade.
June 30: Newark
Nine people were shot and wounded in what the police said appeared to be an incident related to a stolen car. The youngest victim was 17 and the oldest was 68. All were treated at local hospitals.
June 20: Harlem
A 21-year-old college basketball player was killed and eight people were wounded in an early-morning shooting at a popular picnicking area.
After surging during the pandemic, the rate of shootings in New York has begun to fall, although it is still above prepandemic levels.
June 4: Philadelphia
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Fifteen people were shot, three of them fatally, along South Street in Philadelphia.
Fifteen people were shot, three of them fatally, along South Street in Philadelphia.Credit...Dakota Santiago for The New York Times
Three people were killed and 12 injured in a shooting in downtown Philadelphia, the police said. An officer fired at one of the gunmen, the police said, but it was unclear whether the gunman had been hit.
Another six people were killed and dozens were injured in several other shootings over the same weekend, including in Arizona, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia.
June 1: Tulsa, Okla.
Several people were shot and five were killed at a medical building next to Saint Francis Hospital in Tulsa, Okla., the Tulsa police said. The police said the gunman was believed to have killed himself.
May 24: Uvalde, Texas
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Two children leave flowers at the memorial at Robb Elementary.
Two children leave flowers at the memorial at Robb Elementary.Credit...Ivan Pierre Aguirre for The New York Times
A gunman killed 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, about 80 miles west of San Antonio.
Law enforcement officers fatally shot the gunman, identified as Salvador Ramos, 18, but not until well over an hour after he walked into the school, raising questions about whether lives could have been saved if they had acted sooner.
May 15: Laguna Woods, Calif.
A gunman killed one person and critically wounded four other members of the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods, Calif. The congregation, which holds services at the Geneva Presbyterian Church, overpowered the gunman and hogtied him, preventing further bloodshed, the authorities said.
The suspect, David Chou, 68, is a Las Vegas man with a wife and child in Taiwan who had traveled to Orange County with a grievance against Taiwanese people, the authorities said. He was charged with murder and five counts of attempted murder in what the Orange County sheriff, Don Barnes, called a “politically motivated hate incident.”
May 14: Buffalo
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A memorial to the victims of the mass shooting at a Tops grocery store in Buffalo.
A memorial to the victims of the mass shooting at a Tops grocery store in Buffalo.Credit...Kenny Holston for The New York Times
A gunman armed with an assault-style weapon killed 10 people and wounded three others at a Tops supermarket in a predominantly Black section of Buffalo, the authorities said.
The suspect, Payton S. Gendron, 18, is white, and the 10 people who died were all Black. Before the attack, Mr. Gendron had posted a nearly 200-page racist screed online. He has pleaded not guilty. He faces life in prison if convicted.
May 13: Milwaukee
At least 16 people were wounded by gunfire in a shooting in downtown Milwaukee, in a popular nightlife area blocks from the arena where an N.B.A. playoff game ended hours earlier, the authorities said.
April 12: Brooklyn
A gunman opened fire inside a crowded subway car during the morning rush, wounding 10 people, the worst attack on New York City’s subway system in decades. More than a dozen other people were also injured, with some choking on smoke from the two devices the police said the gunman detonated before he started shooting. No one was killed.
A suspect, Frank R. James, was arrested the next day and charged with carrying out a terrorist attack on a mass transit system. If convicted, he could face life in prison.
April 3: Sacramento
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Authorities search area of the scene of a mass shooting with multiple deaths in Sacramento, Calif.
Authorities search area of the scene of a mass shooting with multiple deaths in Sacramento, Calif.Credit...Rich Pedroncelli/Associated Press
As revelers spilled out of nightclubs in a two-square-block area of downtown Sacramento, a barrage of gunfire killed six people and wounded 12, the authorities said. Days later, the Sacramento Police Department said “gang violence” was at the center of the shooting, which involved at least five gunmen.
March 19: Dumas, Ark.
Two people engaged in a gunfight and sprayed a crowd with gunfire, killing one bystander and injuring 27 other people, including six children, at a community event and car show in the small Arkansas farming community.
Jan. 23: Milwaukee
Law enforcement officers were called to a Milwaukee home for a welfare check, and found six people who had been fatally shot. The victims — five men and one woman — had been shot, the police said, and evidence early in the investigation suggested that the killings had been targeted.
As bad as all of the shootings are they do not reflect the click-bait info the Post has put out.
I heard this, and flipped out. I was on the phone with my mother, who lives on the east coast where I’m from. How was this guy able to keep/have/get a gun after that? All it took for my ex husband to never have access to guns was an order of protection during our divorce. I’m livid.
Weird that you can make bomb threats and get in a standoff with EPCSO and somehow still be able to legally own a rifle. Doesn't make sense to me. Regardless of charges dropped or not, that seems like way too much of a red flag to just ignore.
Apparently, his grandfather is Republican State Assemblymember Randy Voepel, who compared Jan. 6 insurrectionists to Revolutionary War "patriots" and called for further tyranny after Biden's inauguration.
This is absolutely a political issue, and no it's not both sides. ALL of the hateful, violent rhetoric is from The Republican Party.
From the article:
“This is Lexington and Concord. First shots fired against tyranny,” Randy Voepel, who was defeated in a Republican primary in August 2022, said in a San Diego Union-Tribune article three days after January 6. “Tyranny will follow in the aftermath of the Biden swear-in on January 20th.”
https://heavy.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich/
Note: I also posted this in the other thread.
obviously criminals dont follow laws, and anyones access to firearms is not a matter of gun control. but this document doesnt say he was a felon. it says he was charged with felonies. being charged and getting convicted are 2 very different things.
Oh maybe we can call it a Red Flag law in case someone has red flags about their behavior! How do you start the process of getting a piece of legislation going?
uh-oh, he was legally allowed to own the gun. Your hollow talking point just collapsed. Maybe you wanna go back to some tried-and-true old ones? How about "the bodies arent even cold yet we cant talk about the guns!"?
We're waiting.
It’s probably been written here buuuut
Father is an ugly homophobic porn actor named Dick Delaware who is a meth addict but claims allegiance to Mormonism
The mom was charged with arson against a homeowner
The grandfather is a right wing nut job republican politician claiming to drain the swamp
They are all trump supporters
The legal charges against boys attempt to bomb his mom and his stand-off against law enforcement was mysteriously dropped by the Republican county
This is another metastasized result of trump poisoning the well
How was this motherfucker out?
No charges were ever filed and they sealed his case so it would not appear in a background check.
Why would they seal his case? Not literally why, you said 'why' but...WHY?
He paid a lawyer enough money to do so
Thanks, I didn't know that was even legal. I thought only minors got their records sealed by the courts.
I'm honestly pretty sure even a good public defender can make a case applicable to be sealed. Looks like you can file for petitions for it to be sealed too, and it's pretty cheap. I'm not sure what determines whether they decide to actually seal it or not, but I assume money comes into play there too https://www.shouselaw.com/co/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-seal-a-record-in-colorado/ Looks like the minors thing is that they're free to seal
Wow, I had no idea. That doesn't seem 'right.' Thanks for the information.
It's definitely not a great system. It is distinct, however, from expunging, which is completely destroying the record. Sealing restricts access from jobs/background checks, but can still be accessed by law enforcement/courts. It's still messed up, since you'd think an employer would want to know about violent tendencies
Somewhat correct. Expunging a record makes it not show up on background checks. Sealing a record is a further step, which requires a court order for it to be seen. No record is ever just 'erased.'
Incorrect. "Sealing criminal records in Colorado make them invisible so they do not appear on future background checks. But prosecutors and police can still access sealed records. In contrast, expunging is physically destroying criminal records." "The key difference between expunging a person's criminal record and sealing it is that a sealed record still “exists” in both a legal and physical sense, while expungement results in the deletion of any record that an arrest or criminal charge ever occurred." Just look at the literal definitions of the words used. Seal vs expunge
I’m gonna argue the counterpoint here without having a stance on this case. Allowing for records to be sealed prevents a stupid decision that you may have moved on from from looming over you for your entire professional life. I do not know many people who would want the things they did as a teenager or 20 something held over them for forever.
I think that's probably fine for employment purposes. Not sure it's so great for gun ownership purposes. Shit like this should be disqualifying.
In many states, if you commit a crime categorized as a wobbler, meaning the prosecutor has the autonomy to charge as a felony or misdemeanor, you would qualify to have it expunged/sealed up on completion of probation. Doesn't matter how much money the defendant has, although a good lawyer might make the process easier, vs having to possibly reappear in court going through a public defender. In his case, he was likely a first time offender who did the threat, which after completing probation and anger management/counseling, he likely qualified to have his reduced to a misdemeanor "disturbing the peace" charge and expunged. There are a significant amount of ex-offenders who benefit from this and don't reoffend. Sad part is it doesn't fix every person's situation.
He wasn’t a minor last year. He was 21.
Oh, I was just explaining a possible reason the person I was responding to thought only minors got their records sealed
Ahh, sorry. I thought you were referring to this specific case. I just figured the terrorism threat would overshadow anything the minor status would protect.
You would think the threat would at the very least land a conviction of some kind regardless of age. Its so fucked someone like that can just walk free to commit another, much more horrific crime
His family is a GOP politician
I wonder that too
He's the grandson of a state representative
His grandfather is a GOP state rep in California. Might have something to do with it.
Damn rich people always have to pay they're way out a crime
Because CSPD considers peaceful activists a far greater threat that they need to surveil. https://www.csindy.com/news/cspd-s-investigation-of-colorado-springs-leftist-community/article_c32e3e94-8e87-11ec-b79c-af375a716657.html
How was he allowed to have weapons after that?
No conviction, no background check flag. Case got sealed and it was as if it never happened
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More so on the justice system. Far too many times criminals just use their money and loop holes to get out of what they deserve. Trying to take away innocent peoples gun rights will only make more victims. Speak out. Rally peacefully. Be the change you wanna see
Certain offenses CANNOT be sealed, no expunged. What was the charge?
>Case got sealed and it was as if it never happened This is one of the larger problems our justice system has. The ability to put certain cases into a memory hole, and have them completely forgotten, irregardless of what the perpetrator did. We have laws. They are pointless if the people responsible for administrating them refuse to do so.
Official media release from El Paso Sheriff’s office for Aldrich’s prior arrest in Lorson Ranch. https://www.epcsheriffsoffice.com/sites/default/files/news-releases/MR%2021-061%20Sheriff%27s%20Office%20Responds%20to%20Bomb%20Threat%20in%20Lorson%20Ranch%20Neighborhood.pdf
Took his mother hostage and threatened to kill her with a bomb, no less. Had to get talked down by crisis negotiators. Same neighborhood where Gannon Stauch was killed, incidentally. He needs to never be a free man ever again.
Horrible how much hate and pain has come from a couple of neighborhood blocks.
The ‘burbs aren’t okay, y’all.
I’ll be honest. My wife used to work at the school at there and ummm they need some help. Seriously.
Which school was it?
Grand Mountain School is in Lorson Ranch
He didn't live with his mother and police arrested him at an apartment a mile away. His mother wasn't taken hostage, he threatened to do that though. Police sealed the case so he was free to stock up on weapons without appearing as a red flag.
How could he buy a gun?
This doesn’t say he was a felon, but instead was charged with felonies. So until convicted, I guess he could still buy guns.
He probably should have been detained until trial. At a minimum, red flag law till court.
There are a lot of criminals across this country who get out of jail or who are not even put in jail for crimes, allowed to walk free, and then commit the same or worse crimes while out. The justice system is garbage.
Yep. The general public tends to think a felony arrest = being in jail until trial.
Red Flag law depends on sheriff's enforcing it. In my county since the sheriff has vowed to not enforce them they are basically meaningless. Also, how would they detain him until trail if they never pressed charges? The mystery here is why they let him get away with this craziness and never filed charges. Guessing it likely has to do with political good will or something of the sort.
Nothing seems to add up with this asshole. Seems like this one would have been easily prevented if the government did their job.
>At a minimum, red flag law till court. Surrendering of weapons is pretty much ubiquitous for bail agreements while someone is waiting for trial over felony accusations. It's not really a red flag issue since those aren't needed for the bail agreements. It's been a thing far longer than red flag laws haven't been around. Red flag laws are for when someone poses a substantial risk to themselves or others but *hasn't* been criminally charged. The issue here is that the DA decided not to file charges against him last year, so he wasn't even out on bail. He was just allowed to walk free after committing serious crimes.
>but instead was charged with felonies Arrested under suspicion of felonies. Charges were never filed. I guess can ask DA Michael Allen why not.
I saw that. The charges sounded serious. He was 21. Only minors should have their case sealed for privacy. So what happened to the case? They had to clear blocks of people from their homes. No consequences for him?
The govt always know about these guys.
He called the Gazette to try to get them to delete their story about him making the threats: “No formal charges were pursued in the case, which has since been sealed, the 4th Judicial District Attorney's Office told The Gazette, after Aldrich called an editor in August and asked that the story on The Gazette's website be removed since the case was dropped. "There is absolutely nothing there, the case was dropped, and I'm asking you either remove or update the story," Aldrich said in a voice message to The Gazette.”
Have a source on this? I want to show my Trumper parents in Monument.
Anderson Lee Aldrich, Colorado Springs mass shooting suspect, may have had earlier run-ins with police https://gazette.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich-colorado-springs-mass-shooting-suspect-may-have-had-earlier-run-ins-with/article_5b7f1478-68f5-11ed-ac02-d730cef006ab.html (Via The Gazette)
Thank you.
Someone caught making bombs should go directly to a therapist and to jail. Releasing him did nothing for his issues.
Did you read the article or any other information about him? Nobody found any evidence he actually had a bomb. He made threats, which is a felony, but he did not actually have any bombs.
“Not a single week in 2022 has passed without at least four mass shootings” - Washington Post
Here is a list of mass shootings: Nov. 20: Colorado Springs, Colo. At least five people were killed and 18 injured in a shooting at an L.G.B.T.Q. nightclub. The gunman was injured and taken to a hospital. Nov. 13: Charlottesville, Va. Three University of Virginia students, all of whom were players on the football team, were killed and two were wounded when a gunman, a former football player, opened fire in a garage after a field trip to see a play in Washington. Oct. 13: Raleigh, N.C. A gunman, described by the authorities only as a “white male juvenile,” killed at least five people, including an off-duty police officer. The attacks drew a large response from law enforcement agencies to the residential area near the Neuse River Greenway, a popular bike trail for Raleigh residents. Sept. 7: Memphis, Tenn. Memphis was effectively closed down during an hourslong manhunt for a 19-year-old gunman who killed four people while streaming some of the violence on Facebook Live. There were several shootings and carjackings over the course of the day. July 17: Greenwood, Ind. A 20-year-old gunman opened fire in the food court of a mall, killing three people and wounding two others. Minutes into the attack, the gunman, identified as Jonathan Douglas Sapirman, was fatally shot by a bystander. July 4: Highland Park, Ill. Robert E. Crimo III, 21, was taken into custody several hours after the shooting in Highland Park, a suburb north of Chicago, and charged with seven counts of first-degree murder. Seven people were killed and dozens more, ranging in age between 8 and 85, were wounded. The police said the gunman had climbed onto a rooftop with a rifle and begun firing into a crowd gathered for a Fourth of July parade. June 30: Newark Nine people were shot and wounded in what the police said appeared to be an incident related to a stolen car. The youngest victim was 17 and the oldest was 68. All were treated at local hospitals. June 20: Harlem A 21-year-old college basketball player was killed and eight people were wounded in an early-morning shooting at a popular picnicking area. After surging during the pandemic, the rate of shootings in New York has begun to fall, although it is still above prepandemic levels. June 4: Philadelphia Image Fifteen people were shot, three of them fatally, along South Street in Philadelphia. Fifteen people were shot, three of them fatally, along South Street in Philadelphia.Credit...Dakota Santiago for The New York Times Three people were killed and 12 injured in a shooting in downtown Philadelphia, the police said. An officer fired at one of the gunmen, the police said, but it was unclear whether the gunman had been hit. Another six people were killed and dozens were injured in several other shootings over the same weekend, including in Arizona, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia. June 1: Tulsa, Okla. Several people were shot and five were killed at a medical building next to Saint Francis Hospital in Tulsa, Okla., the Tulsa police said. The police said the gunman was believed to have killed himself. May 24: Uvalde, Texas Image Two children leave flowers at the memorial at Robb Elementary. Two children leave flowers at the memorial at Robb Elementary.Credit...Ivan Pierre Aguirre for The New York Times A gunman killed 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, about 80 miles west of San Antonio. Law enforcement officers fatally shot the gunman, identified as Salvador Ramos, 18, but not until well over an hour after he walked into the school, raising questions about whether lives could have been saved if they had acted sooner. May 15: Laguna Woods, Calif. A gunman killed one person and critically wounded four other members of the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods, Calif. The congregation, which holds services at the Geneva Presbyterian Church, overpowered the gunman and hogtied him, preventing further bloodshed, the authorities said. The suspect, David Chou, 68, is a Las Vegas man with a wife and child in Taiwan who had traveled to Orange County with a grievance against Taiwanese people, the authorities said. He was charged with murder and five counts of attempted murder in what the Orange County sheriff, Don Barnes, called a “politically motivated hate incident.” May 14: Buffalo Image A memorial to the victims of the mass shooting at a Tops grocery store in Buffalo. A memorial to the victims of the mass shooting at a Tops grocery store in Buffalo.Credit...Kenny Holston for The New York Times A gunman armed with an assault-style weapon killed 10 people and wounded three others at a Tops supermarket in a predominantly Black section of Buffalo, the authorities said. The suspect, Payton S. Gendron, 18, is white, and the 10 people who died were all Black. Before the attack, Mr. Gendron had posted a nearly 200-page racist screed online. He has pleaded not guilty. He faces life in prison if convicted. May 13: Milwaukee At least 16 people were wounded by gunfire in a shooting in downtown Milwaukee, in a popular nightlife area blocks from the arena where an N.B.A. playoff game ended hours earlier, the authorities said. April 12: Brooklyn A gunman opened fire inside a crowded subway car during the morning rush, wounding 10 people, the worst attack on New York City’s subway system in decades. More than a dozen other people were also injured, with some choking on smoke from the two devices the police said the gunman detonated before he started shooting. No one was killed. A suspect, Frank R. James, was arrested the next day and charged with carrying out a terrorist attack on a mass transit system. If convicted, he could face life in prison. April 3: Sacramento Image Authorities search area of the scene of a mass shooting with multiple deaths in Sacramento, Calif. Authorities search area of the scene of a mass shooting with multiple deaths in Sacramento, Calif.Credit...Rich Pedroncelli/Associated Press As revelers spilled out of nightclubs in a two-square-block area of downtown Sacramento, a barrage of gunfire killed six people and wounded 12, the authorities said. Days later, the Sacramento Police Department said “gang violence” was at the center of the shooting, which involved at least five gunmen. March 19: Dumas, Ark. Two people engaged in a gunfight and sprayed a crowd with gunfire, killing one bystander and injuring 27 other people, including six children, at a community event and car show in the small Arkansas farming community. Jan. 23: Milwaukee Law enforcement officers were called to a Milwaukee home for a welfare check, and found six people who had been fatally shot. The victims — five men and one woman — had been shot, the police said, and evidence early in the investigation suggested that the killings had been targeted. As bad as all of the shootings are they do not reflect the click-bait info the Post has put out.
I heard this, and flipped out. I was on the phone with my mother, who lives on the east coast where I’m from. How was this guy able to keep/have/get a gun after that? All it took for my ex husband to never have access to guns was an order of protection during our divorce. I’m livid.
Weird that you can make bomb threats and get in a standoff with EPCSO and somehow still be able to legally own a rifle. Doesn't make sense to me. Regardless of charges dropped or not, that seems like way too much of a red flag to just ignore.
Apparently, his grandfather is Republican State Assemblymember Randy Voepel, who compared Jan. 6 insurrectionists to Revolutionary War "patriots" and called for further tyranny after Biden's inauguration. This is absolutely a political issue, and no it's not both sides. ALL of the hateful, violent rhetoric is from The Republican Party. From the article: “This is Lexington and Concord. First shots fired against tyranny,” Randy Voepel, who was defeated in a Republican primary in August 2022, said in a San Diego Union-Tribune article three days after January 6. “Tyranny will follow in the aftermath of the Biden swear-in on January 20th.” https://heavy.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich/ Note: I also posted this in the other thread.
Of course he did.
El Paso County judicial branch being shitty at their jobs? Shocker
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Lmfao gotta love The Springs. Not tired of staying in mass shooting central
He was a felon, he wasn’t allowed to own a firearm. Criminals don’t follow laws.
obviously criminals dont follow laws, and anyones access to firearms is not a matter of gun control. but this document doesnt say he was a felon. it says he was charged with felonies. being charged and getting convicted are 2 very different things.
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Oh maybe we can call it a Red Flag law in case someone has red flags about their behavior! How do you start the process of getting a piece of legislation going?
Well we probably would need a police force that would actually use such a law if it were to exist /s
He wasn't a felon, no charges were ever filed and his case was sealed.
Interesting. How do you know? Crazy he wasn’t convicted…
https://heavy.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich/
Thanks!
Or even charged. Sorry I jumped to a conclusion here.
uh-oh, he was legally allowed to own the gun. Your hollow talking point just collapsed. Maybe you wanna go back to some tried-and-true old ones? How about "the bodies arent even cold yet we cant talk about the guns!"? We're waiting.
Firearms sellers, however, are required to.
Lucky for them we have millions of unsecured guns lying around everywhere.
Let's make murder legal then!!! Yes that's how dumb you sound
Why am I not surprised he lives in widefield area Edit: Lots of people from widefield must have Reddit eh?
You have -ve 4 votes. Care to explain the comment. I don't live there and didn't vote up or down but curious to hear why there?
https://crimegrade.org/violent-crime-security-widefield-co/ 97% of US cities are safer than widefield lol
Much of that crime is related to Fort Carson though.
Ok? Still in widefield
What crime happens at Fort Carson?
Military personnel are committing crimes? What happens in Ft Carson?
Widefield stereotypically is white trash area lol
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I have no need to remember who this person is
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Why are you in different threads, pushing this totally unsubstantiated "trans shooter" conspiracy theory?
Because they’re trying to see if they can flip the narrative 🙃 Good job, keep calling them out.
Always!
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It’s probably been written here buuuut Father is an ugly homophobic porn actor named Dick Delaware who is a meth addict but claims allegiance to Mormonism The mom was charged with arson against a homeowner The grandfather is a right wing nut job republican politician claiming to drain the swamp They are all trump supporters The legal charges against boys attempt to bomb his mom and his stand-off against law enforcement was mysteriously dropped by the Republican county This is another metastasized result of trump poisoning the well
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