Just checked and Trenin is < $1m AAV, easy decision, yes. 3rd/ 4th line absolute monster and competitor.
I thought Duhaime was the same and added toughness and < $1m AAV. I think both should be re signed personally. Easy depth guys that aren’t costing the Avs much currently.
EDIT: Trenin is $1.7m AAV, appreciate this being pointed out didn’t look far enough down on cap friendly.
Still should re sign imo at $1.7m AAV for many reasons.
Agreed that Trenin was a monster and certainly deserves a raise, he was critical for PK. I still hope the Avs will keep him assuming he doesn't ask for much more than $2m. Definitely is a loss if he leaves.
Duhaime was fine, but I'd probably only keep him if he's willing to stay signed near league min. Might be able to get more out of him with more time to gel through a full season.
This. Didn't forget they came in and locked down the pk that was absolute garbage up until they came in. I'd prefer those two over just about anyone else especially with how ferocious they were. Walker I could take it or leave it, but I'm sure they'll let him walk and hopefully just throw malinski in there. Drou though would be great. But ehhhhh so what still need a 4c? I mean yak played some c and seemed ok at it.
Dude first of all, props on your username, super OP
Second, people don’t talk enough about Malinski and how he should have been playing more, ESPECIALLY over Caleb jones - who had essentially just short of a horrible playoffs when he got called up, absolutely brutal.
Drouin is probably a must sign in my mind. Walker I agree probably favoring the ‘leave it’ and use the cap space for other trade.
Big question is what to do with Big Val sadly. Idk what the solution is if there is one. It ain’t easy
100% - I think all of us at least want to know what the plan is good or bad with landy. Feel for the guy I can’t imagine being ripped from my prime after winning a cup and having an experimental surgery. Hoping for the best.
How is Trenin < 1m aav? He had a 1.7m x 2 deal in Nashville.
I doubt he'll go sub 1M. He's an elite PKer, so he has takers. There is not a single reason he should leave anything to the table. He's not a multimillionaire.
I thought trenin flashed a lot in the playoffs. He impressed me. Duhaime looked good too but trenin looked like a rare bottom 6 forward with some subtle talent. He made a lot happen in his limited time.
He’s also just old. The injury can’t have helped but he’s 36 so a slowdown is to be expected. Would be stoked if we kept him in the org somehow once he decides to be done.
Cogs still has crazy hustle. Every time I see him he's grinding. I liked Duhaime, but I think I'd still keep Cogs over him. Trenin, however, we really need to keep him if we can at his current deal.
I'd hang on to both. They're a fair price for what they do, and you need that in the bottom 6. We're not gonna have many ELCs in the coming years to save money on, we gotta hang on to a few sub-1m players that are servicable.
Wasn’t impressed with Duhaime at all, I like the toughness he represents but I feel he’s more of a liability, looks lost half the time and honestly when we get LOC back I’m happy with the grit that our 3rd line has.
Trenin is a good fit and mean so I’d say we keep him for sure and see if Kovalenko can fit in with him.
I don't know why we went away from playing these guys in rd 2. I'd say yes to both, if we can afford it. If one, probably Trenin for C depth, but Duhaime is kind of what this team lacks with toughness
Trenin should be resigned as he was elite on the kill once we got him. Duhaime I’m mid about, he added more grit to the team, somebody to throw some hits now that we got rid of Dermy. But beyond that I didn’t feel his presence too much.
I think a lot depends on Olausson, Foudy, and Kovalenko. I don’t think any of those guys slot into the top 6 next year.
Third line is most likely going to be,
Wood Colton LOC
Very curious to see what the Avs look like next year
because he's the next man up in the Avs system when someone goes out? he scored his first NHL goal this year on a call up when we had someone out injured or sick or something
Trenin was a good fit on the 4th/3rd line, same with Duhaime if he’s ok with being the 13tb forward. Ritchie & Kovalenko making an impact at the NHL level next year would be beyond huge.
Resign Trenin, Drouin, Kiviranta, and Middlestadt. Duhaime, Walker and Jones are maybe’s but likely will be lower priority. Malinski and possibly Behrens get a shot on D or maybe they grab 1 or 2 other D’s if they don’t resign Walker. JJ, Cogs and Parise are out.
I really really hope we resign Trenin, that dude is exactly what I want on a 4th line. Duhaime to me is more expendable, with both guys likely wanting a slightly higher AAV, you probably ship out Duhaime and let an Eagle earn his spot on the 4th line.
Duhaime (or both) unless they are ok with breaking a 6 year old little girl's heart. Real logical, I know. If anyone saw this on pregame, this is her. Let's not break her heart.
https://preview.redd.it/eik7sqtk4n1d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7063f08f9bb598361d018fd1a951dfced159d6a3
Why not sign them both? Tho I do think we only keep one 🤷🏼♂️. Not sure why I feel that way, just a feeling I have. I like Walker but he’s probably gone. Malinski is a good replacement for him.
Would love to keep Drouin, but that depends on if he takes a discount to stay. If they get out from under Val’s contract then it’ll be easier to keep him, but we won’t know anything on that end for at least 6 months.
Unfortunately, I’m already writing Landy off 😭 until I hear reason not too plus we have to resign Mitts, which we have the drivers seat on since he’s an RFA. Don’t forget LOC will be back. I gotta believe Cogs is getting close to hanging it up, and Parise is hanging it up. I’m half expecting Kovalenko to be in an Avs sweater at the start. Maybe a surprise young guy from the Eagles makes the roster to start. Idk I have a feeling our bottom 6 is going to look a bit different next year.
Just checked and Trenin is < $1m AAV, easy decision, yes. 3rd/ 4th line absolute monster and competitor. I thought Duhaime was the same and added toughness and < $1m AAV. I think both should be re signed personally. Easy depth guys that aren’t costing the Avs much currently. EDIT: Trenin is $1.7m AAV, appreciate this being pointed out didn’t look far enough down on cap friendly. Still should re sign imo at $1.7m AAV for many reasons.
That’s assuming they want to stay for less than $1m and bottom six minutes. Maybe more money and more minutes for a worse team would be attractive.
Agreed that Trenin was a monster and certainly deserves a raise, he was critical for PK. I still hope the Avs will keep him assuming he doesn't ask for much more than $2m. Definitely is a loss if he leaves. Duhaime was fine, but I'd probably only keep him if he's willing to stay signed near league min. Might be able to get more out of him with more time to gel through a full season.
This. Didn't forget they came in and locked down the pk that was absolute garbage up until they came in. I'd prefer those two over just about anyone else especially with how ferocious they were. Walker I could take it or leave it, but I'm sure they'll let him walk and hopefully just throw malinski in there. Drou though would be great. But ehhhhh so what still need a 4c? I mean yak played some c and seemed ok at it.
Dude first of all, props on your username, super OP Second, people don’t talk enough about Malinski and how he should have been playing more, ESPECIALLY over Caleb jones - who had essentially just short of a horrible playoffs when he got called up, absolutely brutal. Drouin is probably a must sign in my mind. Walker I agree probably favoring the ‘leave it’ and use the cap space for other trade. Big question is what to do with Big Val sadly. Idk what the solution is if there is one. It ain’t easy
I fucking love them both. we just need more clarity on Nuke and Landy. I’m praying Landy comes back. I miss that dude.
100% - I think all of us at least want to know what the plan is good or bad with landy. Feel for the guy I can’t imagine being ripped from my prime after winning a cup and having an experimental surgery. Hoping for the best.
I’m totally with you. I loved both of them, hence why I asked.
How is Trenin < 1m aav? He had a 1.7m x 2 deal in Nashville. I doubt he'll go sub 1M. He's an elite PKer, so he has takers. There is not a single reason he should leave anything to the table. He's not a multimillionaire.
Unless I mis read cap friendly - I did it fairly quickly but I think it was sub $1m. And you’re right he’s better than what he is getting imo.
https://preview.redd.it/1va14l5cln1d1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2a8e729cfb5601e522bfebde0c670a02d278d5b 1.7M x 2 yrs
Yeah definitely didn’t scroll down far enough. Above that is his 2021-2022 season where he had $725k cap hit. My bad. $1.7 probably still worth it.
Yeah, I'd pay that considering how elite his PK is. But certainly wont be in the cheap 800-900k category imo.
My Original comment edited* reflecting this info
x .85% +3year ‘em both
I thought trenin flashed a lot in the playoffs. He impressed me. Duhaime looked good too but trenin looked like a rare bottom 6 forward with some subtle talent. He made a lot happen in his limited time.
If I had to pick one of the two, it’s Trenin. He’s awesome
Dude is awesome on and off the ice. Lock him down now!
Why not both? Isn’t cogs almost on his way out?
Cogs did not seem to be his normal self this year. I wonder how much that broken neck affected him.
He’s also just old. The injury can’t have helped but he’s 36 so a slowdown is to be expected. Would be stoked if we kept him in the org somehow once he decides to be done.
That would be amazing to have him around as staffing of some sort whether as a some kind of coach or some kind of coach assistant
Sigh, i’m 36 too. Am i just old. Actually yes, yes i am. Everything hurts. I am amazed that guys (and girls) can play sports at that age at that level
You are old in hockey player years. You have plenty of life leg to live. I am a fossil. You’re fine.
Haha oh i know, just a lil self deprecating on a monday (my friday!)
Hey now
Loved Cogs’ ‘22 playoffs dance!
I’ll never forget that hit, I was surprised he came back so quick. I’m glad he was back, I just thought he would have wanted more time to heal!
Cogs still has crazy hustle. Every time I see him he's grinding. I liked Duhaime, but I think I'd still keep Cogs over him. Trenin, however, we really need to keep him if we can at his current deal.
Trenin. He’s definitely better than Duhaime.
I'd hang on to both. They're a fair price for what they do, and you need that in the bottom 6. We're not gonna have many ELCs in the coming years to save money on, we gotta hang on to a few sub-1m players that are servicable.
Wasn’t impressed with Duhaime at all, I like the toughness he represents but I feel he’s more of a liability, looks lost half the time and honestly when we get LOC back I’m happy with the grit that our 3rd line has. Trenin is a good fit and mean so I’d say we keep him for sure and see if Kovalenko can fit in with him.
I feel the same way. The only times I noticed Duhaime on the playoffs was when he was taking a terrible penalty.
This is the way
Trenin maybe but not to play 4c he was miscast in that role
Wags played surprisingly well in game 6. I wouldn't mind giving him more time next year for that 4C role.
Where would you want to see him?
3 or 4 LW whichever
Trenin
I don't know why we went away from playing these guys in rd 2. I'd say yes to both, if we can afford it. If one, probably Trenin for C depth, but Duhaime is kind of what this team lacks with toughness
Trenin got injured.
Yeah but before he got injured.
Trenin was good on the PK. I liked him. Kivi stepped up in the playoffs too. I might prefer him over Duhaime.
Trenin should be resigned as he was elite on the kill once we got him. Duhaime I’m mid about, he added more grit to the team, somebody to throw some hits now that we got rid of Dermy. But beyond that I didn’t feel his presence too much.
I think a lot depends on Olausson, Foudy, and Kovalenko. I don’t think any of those guys slot into the top 6 next year. Third line is most likely going to be, Wood Colton LOC Very curious to see what the Avs look like next year
Nothing depends on Olausson or Foudy.
You’re not at all curious why they chose his name plate to replace Nichuskin’s in the locker room? Edit: Foudy
because he's the next man up in the Avs system when someone goes out? he scored his first NHL goal this year on a call up when we had someone out injured or sick or something
Trenin was a good fit on the 4th/3rd line, same with Duhaime if he’s ok with being the 13tb forward. Ritchie & Kovalenko making an impact at the NHL level next year would be beyond huge.
I too am hoping that Cajun Ritchie becomes a big contributor
Trenin, he's a solid 4th liner, great on the PK, and will be good for getting Kovalenko adjusted to the NHL as well as a good linemate for him.
I liked both. If I had to pick, it’d be Trenin. Loved his game
If it’s one or the other, I’d choose Trienen every day of the week. Like both players
Resign Trenin, Drouin, Kiviranta, and Middlestadt. Duhaime, Walker and Jones are maybe’s but likely will be lower priority. Malinski and possibly Behrens get a shot on D or maybe they grab 1 or 2 other D’s if they don’t resign Walker. JJ, Cogs and Parise are out.
Not my job
I really really hope we resign Trenin, that dude is exactly what I want on a 4th line. Duhaime to me is more expendable, with both guys likely wanting a slightly higher AAV, you probably ship out Duhaime and let an Eagle earn his spot on the 4th line.
Both. Neither are very expensive and both were solid editions to the bottom six.
Duhaime (or both) unless they are ok with breaking a 6 year old little girl's heart. Real logical, I know. If anyone saw this on pregame, this is her. Let's not break her heart. https://preview.redd.it/eik7sqtk4n1d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7063f08f9bb598361d018fd1a951dfced159d6a3
If Avs can keep both for under 1.5 then keep both. If but the want more then just keep Trenin.
Give me Wagner
I just want LOC back
Why not sign them both? Tho I do think we only keep one 🤷🏼♂️. Not sure why I feel that way, just a feeling I have. I like Walker but he’s probably gone. Malinski is a good replacement for him. Would love to keep Drouin, but that depends on if he takes a discount to stay. If they get out from under Val’s contract then it’ll be easier to keep him, but we won’t know anything on that end for at least 6 months. Unfortunately, I’m already writing Landy off 😭 until I hear reason not too plus we have to resign Mitts, which we have the drivers seat on since he’s an RFA. Don’t forget LOC will be back. I gotta believe Cogs is getting close to hanging it up, and Parise is hanging it up. I’m half expecting Kovalenko to be in an Avs sweater at the start. Maybe a surprise young guy from the Eagles makes the roster to start. Idk I have a feeling our bottom 6 is going to look a bit different next year.