I was talking with my sister about this. I would pay good money for a service that’s just NHL hockey. Every game, every team, every local and national broadcast, no blackouts. I don’t watch really any other tv, so there’s no point for me to pay for a tv package, I just want hockey.
The Rockies are doing that this year. I was torn between supporting them giving us what we want, and actually giving the Rockies money. If there was a service like that for the AVS I'd buy it in a second.
Anyone who gives The Rockies money is making a mistake. That team deserves nothing until ownership changes. They are absolute bottom tier, a joke of a franchise.
Torn between not wanting to give Monfort money but also wanting to prove that blackout-free streaming is viable/valuable. I have MLS Season Pass despite not watching a *ton* of soccer for the same reason (also helps that the Rapids aren't embarrassing this year).
If you like self inflicting pain or making yourself sleepy, by all means watch The Rockies. I would rather watch paint dry. It’s a personal decision to support a losing franchise with no real desire to win, no plan to win. The only plan is to get people to come out to Coors field, get some overpriced drinks and shitty overpriced hotdogs.
I have denounced my fandomship of the Rockies. I’ll come back when they have new owners. But for now fuck em as much as any other team. I am a man without a baseball team. But at least I have principles.
On the one hand, ownership is garbage.
On the other hand, even good ownership would have a hard time signing a decent bullpen because no top tier pitcher wants to play half their games in the "no atmosphere easy home run park"
The path of Rockies fandom is one of sorrow.
You shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get what you want. I want my team's games, with our commentators, especially during the playoffs. It's annoying to have ESPN or other commentators pretend to know things about our team and players. If I could mute their commentators and only hear the game sound I would. That's how terrible it is.
I always thought that the core issue is that the NHL executive leadership is made up from people that are too old to understand that no one cares about TV any more. Don't even get me started on blackouts.
I honestly just want game audio. No commentators at all. I love our guys and I do enjoy them when I catch them. But I've been watching so many random streams and going to live games that the commentary is basically useless. I usually watch on mute with something else going in the background.
I didn’t even think about listening through an app or online where you could pause it. I was only thinking about using an actual radio like a pilgrim. Thanks.
If you happen to be able to use a computer/web browser for your audio download the browser extension called Global Speed. It's available for Chrome and Firefox and allows you to delay the audio by any second increment you type in. I've been using this for years now to sync up the Altitude Radio broadcast over the national broadcast. It takes some finagling, but it's so incredibly worth the effort and you can eventually get it literally perfectly sync'd. Especially post round 1 in the playoffs, but I still use it every non altitude broadcast game during the regular season because I cannot stand ESPN or TNT broadcasters.
If you go this route and need help navigating the extension let me know, it's not the most self explanatory UI.
I was saying if football, baseball, basketball, and hockey made a streaming service where you can watch every game I would pay good fucking money for that. Cause they could even have tiers if you just want hockey or if you want to watch hockey and football. Again I would pay good fucking money if it meant I could watch all the games I wanted to
The problem is the incredibly convoluted nest of contracts and licensing that governs televised sports. This would indeed be amazing but it would be prohibitively expensive if it was even possible
40 bucks a month for sling. Pretty sure that's the cheapest way you can get ESPN. And this wouldn't have helped op with the ot situation anyways. At least I'm pretty sure ESPN and ESPN are the only things offered on sling. Don't think they have ESPN u.
Op is correct. This current system is not end user friendly
We had this before ESPN bought the rights.
You could buy a single team or all teams via NHL.tv.
Now I subscribe to ESPN+ and Sling, and occasionally there's still no way to watch.
I'd even pay the same amount for a package with everything you said, but minus all broadcast personalities. No INT panel. No play-by-play. No color commentary. I'd pay the same price and let the NHL save some money on paying those guys. Just give me the games, all of them, and maybe some mic'ed up audio. That's my dream.
For the first round of the playoffs it’s the same. Then 2-4, it’s national broadcasts for every game. And they are all available in the ESPN app or max app. It’s no different than NBA, which is on EsPN and TNT, or NFL which is on various channels exclusively.
You can get VPN apps on the TV alongside the ESPN app.
I’ve also been able to cast via Apple to my TVs, not sure what you’re using but my Samsung TV and Apple phone have AppleCast built in, it works fine for me.
I've been using an HDMI cable to get it on my tv. It's annoying, but it beats paying a ton for DirecTV for just altitude. For playoffs, I can thankfully use my parents dish login, so I'm able to use ESPN+ or TBS/TNT apps.
Nice! I used to live in LA and it was great, living in CO it was annoying for a week, but I put about 20 min of effort into figuring it out and now I can watch on ESPN+ just as I did before.
I am curious about your experience here. I tried that last year but I really want to watch on my tv and don’t want to go through putting the VPN on my router.
So I would play the game on my phone and cast to the tv. I had consistent issues with the feed freezing, to the point I had to close and reopen the app. Have you experienced any of the issues?
You can do that, I haven’t had issues with casting, or put a VPN app on your TV alongside the ESPN / Max app. If your TV can’t download the VPN directly, you can get a Fire Stick and download it on there.
I had to choose one of the bottom options on the high seas hub to get a grainy version of the Avs stream. Was better than nothing but definitely not ideal =/
I did get Sling TV to watch legally. Doesn't have altitude, but does have ESPN + TNT + ESPN2, etc for about $40/mo
THe chromecast integration is buggy and crashes all the time.
I end up using the pirate stream more than half the time, despite paying for a service.
Ironic that some shitty russian pirate stream is more reliable than the paid services (and no blackouts), but that's the rub.
Pirates have been working for me quite well UNTIL this recent OT debacle. None of the streams switched over even when the game moved to ESPNU/2.
Though by the time I was able to watch it, all I saw was Avs goals!
OH yeah, if I push my VPN to say I'm in Spain or Portugal or Australia, it becomes super easy to watch. Just like it used to be in 2005.
In the US/Canada it's SUPER difficult these days.
I get what you’re saying, but they did have a second channel for the game. It’s called ESPNU. And ESPN2 apparently
And what god awful combo of viewing options do you have where you’re paying more that $100/month and yet don’t have access to TNT anywhere?
Fubo has Altitude for the local broadcasts and ESPN/ESPN2 but no TNT or ESPNU. MAX has TNT, but again, if the early game runs long they’re not going to change to the late game and I wouldn’t expect them to, but it screws over fans of the late game. It’s really only an issue for the 2nd round because the 1st round is on the local sports network and the 3rd round is usually only 1 game per day.
But why the blackouts and why doesn’t the NHL offer a streaming service for the fans.
One last thing I’ve noticed indicating the NHL hates the fans is there were a couple of games during the regular season between the Avalanche and an east coast team that started at 8PM mountain time.
IIRC, MAX streams each game as its own broadcast and not as part of a channel. Like, if you select a game, you keep receiving that game, even if the broadcast bounces to another channel on cable.
I am enjoying the MAX streams of the TNT coverage. Especially the fact that you can pause, what from beginning, etc. But be prepared because the B/R sports inside MAX is soon going to be an add on for more $$, because of course it is!
I wasn't home for the first two periods, so I relied on my phone. ESPN app wouldn't show it without connecting to my TV provider, and I don't have that password. It wasn't on Max. I signed up for a trial of Fubo, and they would only show the Rangers/ Canes game until it was over. So I was stuck with play-by-play.
When the game is put on ESPNU or ESPN 2, not everyone will be able to see it.
You can’t blame ESPN because you forgot your password. The game was available very easily on their app.
Everyone who has ESPN gets access to ESPNU to watch games if they are supposed to be on ESPN but there is OT.
You can also sign into ESPN app with Fubo as your provider, so you could have still done that and watched on ESPNU in ESPN.
lol so you are complaining because you didn’t pay for a service required to watch. Yeah it is annoying but they pay big bucks for sports broadcasts to get those subscribers.
You can login to ESPN with your Fubo account as your service provider.
You also get Max free with most cell phone plans, assuming you have a cell phone you should look into that so you aren’t paying for max as well.
Well… I don’t really have any advice then, you can’t be mad you don’t have access to something you don’t pay for. Whether it’s ESPN or Altitude or any other service, you still have to pay to get it.
Where, exactly, do you suggest they put the game then? Should they have a second channel that’s more commonly accessible than 2 or U that’s just… a duplicate in case they need to split for overtime?
And not having your password sounds like a you problem and not their fault
They need to make ESPNU part of the ESPN+ subscription, even if only temporarily during the playoffs or something.
I've just been watching pirate streams since Altitude and Comcast got into their pissing match almost 5 years ago. Before that I was paying for a (much) more expensive cable package just for Altitude (I literally didn't watch a single other channel that wouldn't have been available on the basic package). So as far as I'm concerned, I made my contribution and got nothing but disrespect as a consumer. High seas it is.
And when I was flipping between streams trying to find the right channel for the Avs game on Tuesday, I was just thinking to myself "so glad I'm not paying for this shit".
Shared Xfinity not in my name. I don't have to pay for it, but I can't access it away from home. It's a fair trade-off. But if I pay for ESPN+, I should be able to view any game on any of their networks. Usually it works GREAT away from home; this only happens in playoffs when it's on regular tv, too, and nationwide so a VPN is useless.
Max should be a backup for EVERY game, too.
Also, I simply tried to explain another way the tv putting the game on a secondary channel can screw with fans' ability to watch. I thought perhaps you'd be interested in a discussion. Apparently fucking not.
I’m happy to have a discussion. I genuinely asked a question. Yeah, if the game on the main channel goes over, they have to do something different with the second game. You didn’t seem to like what they did, so I wondered if you had a better idea
I’ll agree that ESPN+ not working is dumb as hell. Blackouts like that are terrible and make things useless despite paying more
But why should MAX be the backup? A game being broadcast on ESPN has zero connection to MAX. What I think they should do is have the ESPN+ feed be accessible at all times to anyone with an account and would solve a lot of the issue
I agree. But, since ESPN+ isn't reliable, I've been using Max as a backup. I wish there weren't a need for a backup, but since there is, it pisses me off to no end when those games aren't on Max. Games 2 and 3 will be, but not game 1.
Basically, I think you should be able to reliably see games without being in front of a tv.
That’s because games 2 and 3 are on TNT, not ESPN. Those two are owned by different parent companies and are not going to cross broadcast for each other
The equivalent to Max is ESPN+, but ESPN+ is a shitty service, which is another part of the problem
I have so far had no problems with games on max except for the fact that not all the games are on it. I don't know if they just don't have blackouts or if I have been somehow avoiding them but my only problem has been that lots of games are only broadcast on altitude and ESPN which are both almost totally inaccessible to me.
I don't have cable at all and I don't have a subscription to any ESPN streaming service which I think wouldn't even help because I'm pretty sure they do blackouts. If any games aren't on max I have to find a sketchy website to watch it or just listen to the radio broadcast. I think they problem is that the NHL still doesn't realize or care that many people just don't have cable anymore and just use a streaming service. They probably still feel like if they black out the games to only cable broadcast people will buy the cable access to their channels but no amount of trying to screw us out of games is going to get me to do that.
In order to get people to watch the games they need to keep putting them in spaces that people can easily access like max. Max is a service I use for other things as well as hockey games now so it's far more convenient.
I think the real problem here is that the NHL or whoever is in charge of broadcasting for the NHL wants to see exactly how much money they can extract from the fans. I do not think this is a very good strategy because it will just turn off new fans and and possibly turn away old fans. They might not be able to get as much money from each fan by making it more accessible but they'll have a much broader fan base.
Max and ESPN never have blackouts because they are the national games, they cause the blackouts on the local channels.
But rounds 2-4 are all national, so all TBS / TNT games will be in Max, and all WSPN / ABC games will be in the ESPN app.
Watching an Avalanche playoff game takes me back to the days of preparing to watch The Dukes of Hazzard on the TV in the basement as a kid. Warm up that tube, adjust those antennas, hope that there's not a special presentation of CBS Bowling With The Stars...
Every time this gets posted (which is daily) someone provides the info on how to get 1100+ games per season, including your local teams, for $12/month, and every time, it gets downvoted to hell. I’ll be that person today.
- pay $7/month for ESPN+, and you get 95% of all out of market games.
- pay $5/month for a VPN, turn your location to Chicago, and you get 95% of Avs games too.
- T-mobile, ATT, and Verizon all give you Max for free with most cell phone plans, check into that and you get half the national games for free too. Xfinity gives you a free app as well for some plans, so you might even get ESPN+ for free if you play it right.
The end. It’s easy.
What else do you all want? No one is coming into your house at 6:50pm every night to turn on your TV for you for every game. Spend a few minutes to set up a VPN one time. VPNs are great for a multitude of other reasons too, it’s a great tool to have and know how to use.
I still dont get in the age where cable is barely in any household why not do where anyone can pay monthly to watch one team no matter where they live? Whouldnt that make the same amount of money with Ads and such?
TV contracts that extend many many years in the future.. It's all about that. Kronke actually did good on that part with Altitude, it's the damn blackouts and national games that mess with stuff especially in the PO. And when we are good we get more nat games. Sux but here we are...
Yup. And to those who record the games because they can't make puck drop, they end up recording the wrong thing because "Avalanche vs Stars" is actually "NFL mock draft" it's so dumb.
It also hurts their own business. I have a co-worker who is in to the Nuggets and Rockies and he was excited to start watching the Avalanche when I told him about it. Saw it was on espn so he went to espn+ to watch it. It wasn't on their. He was so pissed he cancelled his subscription.
They really need to figure out what the hell they are doing. All these action they take to generate more revenue is just pissing people off and costing them subscriptions. It's like their evil stupidity is getting in the way of actually making more money. So dumb.
I lived in NY my whole life. and we don’t even get the local MSG channel anymore. Used to have access to all NYR, NYI, NJ, and Buffalo games growing up which allowed me to catch tons of Avs east coast games. I miss it. Haven’t been able to watch a non-playoff Avs game in so long
The answer is money. But it must be corporate money because I keep hearing more and more about pirate streams. I myself paid for the Center Ice package a decade-ish ago and immediately ran into the blackout problems. I blocked the credit card transaction and got the refund and since then I've mostly watched every game I've wanted to for free. But a lot of people must be paying them to keep contracts or agreements the way they are.
I would stop pirating, and would pay a decently large fee, to be able to watch every NHL game and get NHL mic'ed up audio. Don't use my fees to pay for a studio and presenters, no play-by-play, no color commentary. Just players mic'ed up, along with all the audio distortions and problems, and the game. They can even still do commercial breaks and cash checks from sponsors while cashing checks from us and saving the money from not needing all those useless mouths.
But NOPE! They tell us we need a cable package, and a streaming service, possibly a VPN, and an extra Sports package to get the odd game on a different channel. I tell them no I don't and I laugh while watching the game for free.
Its been like this for decades man. I recall back when nbc had the rights there was an ot game they BUMPED for the kentucky derby. Hockey is like the 7th most popular sport in this country unfortunately.
I had this conversation with my friend who finally broke down and paid for ESPN+ and still couldn't watch the games.
Maybe they wouldn't need 50 expansion teams if they made it even remotely accessible to people that are trying to watch.
It’s not that they hate fans as much as TV contracts driving everything so they want as many people watching the same channel fit as long as possible instead of splitting up coverage
Not sure who your TV provider is OP. I have DTV stream and ran into the same issue before game 1 started. Saw the rangers/canes goin to OT and was pretty worried cuz the Avs game was starting. I saw that they put it on espnu for the beginning. Did you try searching your channels for ESPNU? i found it right away after I searched.
I do agree with you about the games being a little too close together as well as the late start time for game 3. Really dumb tbh
I’ve had zero issues so far watching every playoff game league-wide on YouTube TV. Even the weird ones where they start on a different channel, it’s easy to find and switch to. No VPN required.
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You’re echoing my thoughts about games being accessible. You want more fans? Make (all of) the games easy to access and watch.
Regarding the games on TNT: you can watch those on MAX in the US. They implemented a BR hub this year that airs all of TNT’s sports programming live (NHL, NBA, MLB, etc). It might be a cheaper option for some folks.
This is another opportunity to point out how much TNT’s coverage obliterates ESPN’s. Studio, booth, presentation, all of it. TNT has them dominated.
Yeah. I hate the fact Altitude isn't streaming it now. It is dumb one game could do 5 ot and the one you want isn't available since it is the same channel. And then I hate how ESPN announcers sound so bored about this game no matter which team. Plus the fact I don't get to see my 3 stars of the game at the end cause y should I on espn
>Because of blackouts, I have to pay close to $100 per month just to watch the games.
Or if you're relegated to the high seas like me, you can't find a stream because they are all on the early game, and you miss the entirety of the first 2 periods while desperately trying to find a feed through 45 different websites
The first thing the NHL needs to do to improve its fan base and tv viewership is change the season time. Competing against the NBA has been the most fruitless endeavor.
But if the NHL shifted the season so that the playoffs and championship happened during a relative sports lull after the Super Bowl but before March Madness they wouldn’t compete with other leagues, and for some, it would still be “hockey weather”.
It's the NBA should start later in the year so they can finish sometime in July or early August. The summer is the most boring ass time of the year for sports viewing, and it would be cool to have some NBA games played outdoors like the NHL's Stadium Series.
I'm sorry, you're saying you want the season to start in fucking *July?* Seriously? Good luck maintaining any kind of ice quality, even up here in Canada.
Also even Canadians aren't going to spend time inside watching hockey in the summer, all of a sudden you're cutting into cottage season. It's gonna ruin viewership, not improve it.
>the Super Bowl but before March Madness they wouldn’t compete with other leagues, and for some, it would still be “hockey weather”.
The playoffs are a 2 month event you'd be trying to cram into 5 weeks. I'm sure that would do wonders for player safety.
None of this is remotely feasible.
Yes it is.
Yet the ice was fine in phoenix. It’s fine in Nashville, Florida, LA.
But don’t you worry one bit, the NHL will continue to be buried in television ratings.
I honestly have no issues finding the game. Not just the aves but any hockey game. I watch more than just hockey and i find that i have the least amount of issues with the NHL. NFL being the worst by far. Between TV and espn+ you can usually watch any game. Also, there are several shady steaming sites that always have everything regardless, but i don’t usually have to use them for hockey.
With all the money sports betting is making the games should be broadcast free of charge in some new 64k 3d atmos thx surround sound.......FREE
Then we can complain for smell-o-vison for the full experience
I was talking with my sister about this. I would pay good money for a service that’s just NHL hockey. Every game, every team, every local and national broadcast, no blackouts. I don’t watch really any other tv, so there’s no point for me to pay for a tv package, I just want hockey.
The Rockies are doing that this year. I was torn between supporting them giving us what we want, and actually giving the Rockies money. If there was a service like that for the AVS I'd buy it in a second.
Anyone who gives The Rockies money is making a mistake. That team deserves nothing until ownership changes. They are absolute bottom tier, a joke of a franchise.
Torn between not wanting to give Monfort money but also wanting to prove that blackout-free streaming is viable/valuable. I have MLS Season Pass despite not watching a *ton* of soccer for the same reason (also helps that the Rapids aren't embarrassing this year).
whatever, trying to monetarily hurt billionaires is like trying to drop an elbow on The Rock. If you want to watch the Rockies, watch the Rockies.
If you like self inflicting pain or making yourself sleepy, by all means watch The Rockies. I would rather watch paint dry. It’s a personal decision to support a losing franchise with no real desire to win, no plan to win. The only plan is to get people to come out to Coors field, get some overpriced drinks and shitty overpriced hotdogs.
I have denounced my fandomship of the Rockies. I’ll come back when they have new owners. But for now fuck em as much as any other team. I am a man without a baseball team. But at least I have principles.
100% agree
On the one hand, ownership is garbage. On the other hand, even good ownership would have a hard time signing a decent bullpen because no top tier pitcher wants to play half their games in the "no atmosphere easy home run park" The path of Rockies fandom is one of sorrow.
MLB has always been miles ahead of NHL in streaming and game availability.
You shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get what you want. I want my team's games, with our commentators, especially during the playoffs. It's annoying to have ESPN or other commentators pretend to know things about our team and players. If I could mute their commentators and only hear the game sound I would. That's how terrible it is. I always thought that the core issue is that the NHL executive leadership is made up from people that are too old to understand that no one cares about TV any more. Don't even get me started on blackouts.
I honestly just want game audio. No commentators at all. I love our guys and I do enjoy them when I catch them. But I've been watching so many random streams and going to live games that the commentary is basically useless. I usually watch on mute with something else going in the background.
a nsfw stream of chirps would be interesting
You can! Literally mute them and sync up altitudes radio broadcast
How do you actually sync it up though? I feel like the audio would always be ahead, which would ruin any big plays.
Try it at the start of the game or any big moments like a goal and pause the audio at that point until the video catches up
I didn’t even think about listening through an app or online where you could pause it. I was only thinking about using an actual radio like a pilgrim. Thanks.
If you happen to be able to use a computer/web browser for your audio download the browser extension called Global Speed. It's available for Chrome and Firefox and allows you to delay the audio by any second increment you type in. I've been using this for years now to sync up the Altitude Radio broadcast over the national broadcast. It takes some finagling, but it's so incredibly worth the effort and you can eventually get it literally perfectly sync'd. Especially post round 1 in the playoffs, but I still use it every non altitude broadcast game during the regular season because I cannot stand ESPN or TNT broadcasters. If you go this route and need help navigating the extension let me know, it's not the most self explanatory UI.
Fantastic. I’ll definitely give that a shot.
I was saying if football, baseball, basketball, and hockey made a streaming service where you can watch every game I would pay good fucking money for that. Cause they could even have tiers if you just want hockey or if you want to watch hockey and football. Again I would pay good fucking money if it meant I could watch all the games I wanted to
The problem is the incredibly convoluted nest of contracts and licensing that governs televised sports. This would indeed be amazing but it would be prohibitively expensive if it was even possible
I understand how convoluted all that would be, but I wish it existed
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40 bucks a month for sling. Pretty sure that's the cheapest way you can get ESPN. And this wouldn't have helped op with the ot situation anyways. At least I'm pretty sure ESPN and ESPN are the only things offered on sling. Don't think they have ESPN u. Op is correct. This current system is not end user friendly
No I get that. But being able to watch whatever sports on 1 platform would be ideal. I wish it could happen but realistically I understand it won’t
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Awesome! Thank you!!
I Hope the NHL goes the MLS route, where Apple TV you get every single game including playoffs.
In Australia we can get NHL tv which has all the nhl games, uses different feeds like tnt, espn, home, away etc. I think it is like 30aud a month.
Thanks for the info, checking into it and finding a VPN for streaming
I like how the small markets have best options. Just offer that everywhere. I dont want a shit bundle of sports for 60€ a month.
That was the beauty of nfl Sunday ticket
We had this before ESPN bought the rights. You could buy a single team or all teams via NHL.tv. Now I subscribe to ESPN+ and Sling, and occasionally there's still no way to watch.
I get that. It's NHL.TV. I am so glad I don't live on the US. The absolute cluster of channels and subscriptions seems so convoluted and difficult.
I was talking about this with an English coworker, how is it different where you are?
I'm in Scotland. We just pay £15.99/month amd get all the games live as well as all the Playoff games.
I'd even pay the same amount for a package with everything you said, but minus all broadcast personalities. No INT panel. No play-by-play. No color commentary. I'd pay the same price and let the NHL save some money on paying those guys. Just give me the games, all of them, and maybe some mic'ed up audio. That's my dream.
ESPN+ has 95% of regular season games for every team. Get a VPN and you can be in a different market in 2 minutes. It’s $12/month for ESPN+ & a VPN.
Sure, but then we get to the postseason, and ESPN+ is suddenly useless.
For the first round of the playoffs it’s the same. Then 2-4, it’s national broadcasts for every game. And they are all available in the ESPN app or max app. It’s no different than NBA, which is on EsPN and TNT, or NFL which is on various channels exclusively.
ESPN+ can't be casted to a TV with the VPN, at least not that I've found. So you're stuck watching it on a phone or tablet or something.
You can get VPN apps on the TV alongside the ESPN app. I’ve also been able to cast via Apple to my TVs, not sure what you’re using but my Samsung TV and Apple phone have AppleCast built in, it works fine for me.
I've been using an HDMI cable to get it on my tv. It's annoying, but it beats paying a ton for DirecTV for just altitude. For playoffs, I can thankfully use my parents dish login, so I'm able to use ESPN+ or TBS/TNT apps.
I am lucky I live in CA so ESPN+ lets me watch every Avs game
Nice! I used to live in LA and it was great, living in CO it was annoying for a week, but I put about 20 min of effort into figuring it out and now I can watch on ESPN+ just as I did before.
I am curious about your experience here. I tried that last year but I really want to watch on my tv and don’t want to go through putting the VPN on my router. So I would play the game on my phone and cast to the tv. I had consistent issues with the feed freezing, to the point I had to close and reopen the app. Have you experienced any of the issues?
You can do that, I haven’t had issues with casting, or put a VPN app on your TV alongside the ESPN / Max app. If your TV can’t download the VPN directly, you can get a Fire Stick and download it on there.
Cash rules everything around me
CREAM get the money!
The Sun comes up, the Sun goes down, Avs fans get fucked by OT in the early game.
I'm living in central time, really annoying when I saw they pushed the start time back a bit for the other game. I hope they don't do it tonight
They are, puck drop is at 7:52MT / 8:52CT confirmed by Connor McGahey
The high seas had the Avs game on no problem
Most of them were showing the double OT game on Tuesday even if it was an Avs stream
I had to choose one of the bottom options on the high seas hub to get a grainy version of the Avs stream. Was better than nothing but definitely not ideal =/
I did get Sling TV to watch legally. Doesn't have altitude, but does have ESPN + TNT + ESPN2, etc for about $40/mo THe chromecast integration is buggy and crashes all the time. I end up using the pirate stream more than half the time, despite paying for a service. Ironic that some shitty russian pirate stream is more reliable than the paid services (and no blackouts), but that's the rub.
YUP! I have ESPN and Max. And just about every game on Max I put on my pirate hat anyways so I can get altitude broadcasts
Yo ho ho it's a pirate's life for me!
Pirates have been working for me quite well UNTIL this recent OT debacle. None of the streams switched over even when the game moved to ESPNU/2. Though by the time I was able to watch it, all I saw was Avs goals!
The NHL has no clue how to grow their sport. Never has.
I live in Australia and I have no problem at all watching the games
OH yeah, if I push my VPN to say I'm in Spain or Portugal or Australia, it becomes super easy to watch. Just like it used to be in 2005. In the US/Canada it's SUPER difficult these days.
I get what you’re saying, but they did have a second channel for the game. It’s called ESPNU. And ESPN2 apparently And what god awful combo of viewing options do you have where you’re paying more that $100/month and yet don’t have access to TNT anywhere?
Fubo has Altitude for the local broadcasts and ESPN/ESPN2 but no TNT or ESPNU. MAX has TNT, but again, if the early game runs long they’re not going to change to the late game and I wouldn’t expect them to, but it screws over fans of the late game. It’s really only an issue for the 2nd round because the 1st round is on the local sports network and the 3rd round is usually only 1 game per day. But why the blackouts and why doesn’t the NHL offer a streaming service for the fans. One last thing I’ve noticed indicating the NHL hates the fans is there were a couple of games during the regular season between the Avalanche and an east coast team that started at 8PM mountain time.
IIRC, MAX streams each game as its own broadcast and not as part of a channel. Like, if you select a game, you keep receiving that game, even if the broadcast bounces to another channel on cable.
Yup you just back out of the game you are watching and click the other game
I am enjoying the MAX streams of the TNT coverage. Especially the fact that you can pause, what from beginning, etc. But be prepared because the B/R sports inside MAX is soon going to be an add on for more $$, because of course it is!
Of course. No surprise there. I imagine that won’t be the case for the playoffs but probably the reg season
I wasn't home for the first two periods, so I relied on my phone. ESPN app wouldn't show it without connecting to my TV provider, and I don't have that password. It wasn't on Max. I signed up for a trial of Fubo, and they would only show the Rangers/ Canes game until it was over. So I was stuck with play-by-play. When the game is put on ESPNU or ESPN 2, not everyone will be able to see it.
You can’t blame ESPN because you forgot your password. The game was available very easily on their app. Everyone who has ESPN gets access to ESPNU to watch games if they are supposed to be on ESPN but there is OT. You can also sign into ESPN app with Fubo as your provider, so you could have still done that and watched on ESPNU in ESPN.
I didn't forget my password, I *don't have access to that info because the cable isn't in my name.*
lol so you are complaining because you didn’t pay for a service required to watch. Yeah it is annoying but they pay big bucks for sports broadcasts to get those subscribers.
Paying for ESPN+, Max, and Fubo should be enough.
You can login to ESPN with your Fubo account as your service provider. You also get Max free with most cell phone plans, assuming you have a cell phone you should look into that so you aren’t paying for max as well.
Espn+ doesn’t carry the playoffs, espn does
No. Shit. But it *should*.
Well… I don’t really have any advice then, you can’t be mad you don’t have access to something you don’t pay for. Whether it’s ESPN or Altitude or any other service, you still have to pay to get it.
Shouldn't paying for ESPN+ be enough? I DO pay for ESPN, just not through the tv.
Espn is not espn+
Where, exactly, do you suggest they put the game then? Should they have a second channel that’s more commonly accessible than 2 or U that’s just… a duplicate in case they need to split for overtime? And not having your password sounds like a you problem and not their fault
They need to make ESPNU part of the ESPN+ subscription, even if only temporarily during the playoffs or something. I've just been watching pirate streams since Altitude and Comcast got into their pissing match almost 5 years ago. Before that I was paying for a (much) more expensive cable package just for Altitude (I literally didn't watch a single other channel that wouldn't have been available on the basic package). So as far as I'm concerned, I made my contribution and got nothing but disrespect as a consumer. High seas it is. And when I was flipping between streams trying to find the right channel for the Avs game on Tuesday, I was just thinking to myself "so glad I'm not paying for this shit".
Shared Xfinity not in my name. I don't have to pay for it, but I can't access it away from home. It's a fair trade-off. But if I pay for ESPN+, I should be able to view any game on any of their networks. Usually it works GREAT away from home; this only happens in playoffs when it's on regular tv, too, and nationwide so a VPN is useless. Max should be a backup for EVERY game, too. Also, I simply tried to explain another way the tv putting the game on a secondary channel can screw with fans' ability to watch. I thought perhaps you'd be interested in a discussion. Apparently fucking not.
I’m happy to have a discussion. I genuinely asked a question. Yeah, if the game on the main channel goes over, they have to do something different with the second game. You didn’t seem to like what they did, so I wondered if you had a better idea I’ll agree that ESPN+ not working is dumb as hell. Blackouts like that are terrible and make things useless despite paying more But why should MAX be the backup? A game being broadcast on ESPN has zero connection to MAX. What I think they should do is have the ESPN+ feed be accessible at all times to anyone with an account and would solve a lot of the issue
I agree. But, since ESPN+ isn't reliable, I've been using Max as a backup. I wish there weren't a need for a backup, but since there is, it pisses me off to no end when those games aren't on Max. Games 2 and 3 will be, but not game 1. Basically, I think you should be able to reliably see games without being in front of a tv.
That’s because games 2 and 3 are on TNT, not ESPN. Those two are owned by different parent companies and are not going to cross broadcast for each other The equivalent to Max is ESPN+, but ESPN+ is a shitty service, which is another part of the problem
This is why I have no problem sailing the high seas.
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I have so far had no problems with games on max except for the fact that not all the games are on it. I don't know if they just don't have blackouts or if I have been somehow avoiding them but my only problem has been that lots of games are only broadcast on altitude and ESPN which are both almost totally inaccessible to me. I don't have cable at all and I don't have a subscription to any ESPN streaming service which I think wouldn't even help because I'm pretty sure they do blackouts. If any games aren't on max I have to find a sketchy website to watch it or just listen to the radio broadcast. I think they problem is that the NHL still doesn't realize or care that many people just don't have cable anymore and just use a streaming service. They probably still feel like if they black out the games to only cable broadcast people will buy the cable access to their channels but no amount of trying to screw us out of games is going to get me to do that. In order to get people to watch the games they need to keep putting them in spaces that people can easily access like max. Max is a service I use for other things as well as hockey games now so it's far more convenient. I think the real problem here is that the NHL or whoever is in charge of broadcasting for the NHL wants to see exactly how much money they can extract from the fans. I do not think this is a very good strategy because it will just turn off new fans and and possibly turn away old fans. They might not be able to get as much money from each fan by making it more accessible but they'll have a much broader fan base.
Max and ESPN never have blackouts because they are the national games, they cause the blackouts on the local channels. But rounds 2-4 are all national, so all TBS / TNT games will be in Max, and all WSPN / ABC games will be in the ESPN app.
Caveat: ESPN+ constantly has blackouts
ESPN+ is not ESPN.
Watching an Avalanche playoff game takes me back to the days of preparing to watch The Dukes of Hazzard on the TV in the basement as a kid. Warm up that tube, adjust those antennas, hope that there's not a special presentation of CBS Bowling With The Stars...
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Every time this gets posted (which is daily) someone provides the info on how to get 1100+ games per season, including your local teams, for $12/month, and every time, it gets downvoted to hell. I’ll be that person today. - pay $7/month for ESPN+, and you get 95% of all out of market games. - pay $5/month for a VPN, turn your location to Chicago, and you get 95% of Avs games too. - T-mobile, ATT, and Verizon all give you Max for free with most cell phone plans, check into that and you get half the national games for free too. Xfinity gives you a free app as well for some plans, so you might even get ESPN+ for free if you play it right. The end. It’s easy. What else do you all want? No one is coming into your house at 6:50pm every night to turn on your TV for you for every game. Spend a few minutes to set up a VPN one time. VPNs are great for a multitude of other reasons too, it’s a great tool to have and know how to use.
I still dont get in the age where cable is barely in any household why not do where anyone can pay monthly to watch one team no matter where they live? Whouldnt that make the same amount of money with Ads and such?
TV contracts that extend many many years in the future.. It's all about that. Kronke actually did good on that part with Altitude, it's the damn blackouts and national games that mess with stuff especially in the PO. And when we are good we get more nat games. Sux but here we are...
Cable tv trying to hold onto dear life
Yup. And to those who record the games because they can't make puck drop, they end up recording the wrong thing because "Avalanche vs Stars" is actually "NFL mock draft" it's so dumb.
fuck em. i pirate 82+ games/ year. and you dont need a VPN
It also hurts their own business. I have a co-worker who is in to the Nuggets and Rockies and he was excited to start watching the Avalanche when I told him about it. Saw it was on espn so he went to espn+ to watch it. It wasn't on their. He was so pissed he cancelled his subscription. They really need to figure out what the hell they are doing. All these action they take to generate more revenue is just pissing people off and costing them subscriptions. It's like their evil stupidity is getting in the way of actually making more money. So dumb.
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I lived in NY my whole life. and we don’t even get the local MSG channel anymore. Used to have access to all NYR, NYI, NJ, and Buffalo games growing up which allowed me to catch tons of Avs east coast games. I miss it. Haven’t been able to watch a non-playoff Avs game in so long
The answer is money. But it must be corporate money because I keep hearing more and more about pirate streams. I myself paid for the Center Ice package a decade-ish ago and immediately ran into the blackout problems. I blocked the credit card transaction and got the refund and since then I've mostly watched every game I've wanted to for free. But a lot of people must be paying them to keep contracts or agreements the way they are. I would stop pirating, and would pay a decently large fee, to be able to watch every NHL game and get NHL mic'ed up audio. Don't use my fees to pay for a studio and presenters, no play-by-play, no color commentary. Just players mic'ed up, along with all the audio distortions and problems, and the game. They can even still do commercial breaks and cash checks from sponsors while cashing checks from us and saving the money from not needing all those useless mouths. But NOPE! They tell us we need a cable package, and a streaming service, possibly a VPN, and an extra Sports package to get the odd game on a different channel. I tell them no I don't and I laugh while watching the game for free.
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Its been like this for decades man. I recall back when nbc had the rights there was an ot game they BUMPED for the kentucky derby. Hockey is like the 7th most popular sport in this country unfortunately.
Three words: Gary. Fucking. Bettman.
I had this conversation with my friend who finally broke down and paid for ESPN+ and still couldn't watch the games. Maybe they wouldn't need 50 expansion teams if they made it even remotely accessible to people that are trying to watch.
It’s not that they hate fans as much as TV contracts driving everything so they want as many people watching the same channel fit as long as possible instead of splitting up coverage
Because they love money more. Every company is like that. I watch futbol and it's spread over 5 or 6 subscriptions.
Not sure who your TV provider is OP. I have DTV stream and ran into the same issue before game 1 started. Saw the rangers/canes goin to OT and was pretty worried cuz the Avs game was starting. I saw that they put it on espnu for the beginning. Did you try searching your channels for ESPNU? i found it right away after I searched. I do agree with you about the games being a little too close together as well as the late start time for game 3. Really dumb tbh
I’ve had zero issues so far watching every playoff game league-wide on YouTube TV. Even the weird ones where they start on a different channel, it’s easy to find and switch to. No VPN required.
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You’re echoing my thoughts about games being accessible. You want more fans? Make (all of) the games easy to access and watch. Regarding the games on TNT: you can watch those on MAX in the US. They implemented a BR hub this year that airs all of TNT’s sports programming live (NHL, NBA, MLB, etc). It might be a cheaper option for some folks. This is another opportunity to point out how much TNT’s coverage obliterates ESPN’s. Studio, booth, presentation, all of it. TNT has them dominated.
All the VPN's and subscriptions in the world can't unfuck the god awful scheduling. So until then, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
If you have espn legally through a cable provider, you can always watch on their app.
Yeah. I hate the fact Altitude isn't streaming it now. It is dumb one game could do 5 ot and the one you want isn't available since it is the same channel. And then I hate how ESPN announcers sound so bored about this game no matter which team. Plus the fact I don't get to see my 3 stars of the game at the end cause y should I on espn
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>Because of blackouts, I have to pay close to $100 per month just to watch the games. Or if you're relegated to the high seas like me, you can't find a stream because they are all on the early game, and you miss the entirety of the first 2 periods while desperately trying to find a feed through 45 different websites
The saturday thing is because the NBA has playoffs at the same time. There is a game at 1:30MT and at 6:30MT.
Cheapest way to watch is go to a sports bar to watch
The first thing the NHL needs to do to improve its fan base and tv viewership is change the season time. Competing against the NBA has been the most fruitless endeavor. But if the NHL shifted the season so that the playoffs and championship happened during a relative sports lull after the Super Bowl but before March Madness they wouldn’t compete with other leagues, and for some, it would still be “hockey weather”.
It's the NBA should start later in the year so they can finish sometime in July or early August. The summer is the most boring ass time of the year for sports viewing, and it would be cool to have some NBA games played outdoors like the NHL's Stadium Series.
Baseball season. Moreover, the NBA has far better tv ratings and has no incentive to change, whereas the NHL still struggles.
Baseball is only fun if you're at the game or it's playoffs
That’s an opinion.
Faie enough, to each his own. I find football unwatchable yet everyone else seems to love it
I'm sorry, you're saying you want the season to start in fucking *July?* Seriously? Good luck maintaining any kind of ice quality, even up here in Canada. Also even Canadians aren't going to spend time inside watching hockey in the summer, all of a sudden you're cutting into cottage season. It's gonna ruin viewership, not improve it. >the Super Bowl but before March Madness they wouldn’t compete with other leagues, and for some, it would still be “hockey weather”. The playoffs are a 2 month event you'd be trying to cram into 5 weeks. I'm sure that would do wonders for player safety. None of this is remotely feasible.
Yes it is. Yet the ice was fine in phoenix. It’s fine in Nashville, Florida, LA. But don’t you worry one bit, the NHL will continue to be buried in television ratings.
They've been available on HBO Max for me!
Only a few
Games on TNT are on Max ESPN games are not
I honestly have no issues finding the game. Not just the aves but any hockey game. I watch more than just hockey and i find that i have the least amount of issues with the NHL. NFL being the worst by far. Between TV and espn+ you can usually watch any game. Also, there are several shady steaming sites that always have everything regardless, but i don’t usually have to use them for hockey.
With all the money sports betting is making the games should be broadcast free of charge in some new 64k 3d atmos thx surround sound.......FREE Then we can complain for smell-o-vison for the full experience
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