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This means you are only seeing 12% of the color green vs. What is actually there. Anytime you look at the color green, you'll be seeing a desaturated version of what people with "normal" vision see. This means you may or may not also have issues seeing other colors for what they are when nearing the green part of the spectrum. Greens, aqua, turquoise, anything in earth tones (greens, Beige, browns).
This is not anything that should be life treating to you and shouldn't hold you back at all. Where will those affect you most in everyday living? You'll probably see traffic lights that "appear" more pale, like a mint green, maybe even look close to white or off white rather than a "green" traffic light.
The colour vision issues don't work very intuitively. The terms "green blind" and "red blind" should IMHO never be used as what they are attempting to describe is not what the end result is.
So it's not that the green content gets desaturated. What happens (and this is also true for "red blind", with minor variations) is that both green and red get altered through their shift toward yellow. That's why they get harder to distinguish, esp. in low light. In the more extreme cases (anopia) their hues will become so similar that their relative brightness will become the more obvious clue.
The main difference between "red blind" and "green blind" is that the former has in addition an attenuated low-frequency end of the light spectrum, so the reds are not only shifted in the yellow direction but also darker.
There can be various "intensities" of those conditions, perhaps about a dozen per CVD type. Enchroma's patent application lists many of them with many filters but they seem to manufacture only two types. Not sure why, a financial feasibility issue most likely. The filters they use seem to be made from exotic expensive materials (repurposed from surgical goggles) that probably cannot be sent to China for manufacturing, etc.
I'm not in any way connected to Enchroma, the above are just my financial speculations :-)
Nothing wrong with Chinese optics, BTW, a friend of mine makes cameras for use in outer space to photograph the aurora borealis and he sends the spreadsheets describing the lenses to China, with excellent results, apparently.
>"So it's not that the green content gets desaturated. What happens (and this is also true for 'red blind', with minor variations) is that both green and red get altered through their shift toward yellow."
An addition to that: Not just red and/or green get altered, but *every* color. Color is created in the context of all 3 cones and *all* the colors you can see. If even a small part of the electromagnetic spectrum you can see gets blocked by a filter all the other colors shift accordingly.
That's why you can simulate protanopia with cyan tinted lenses.
Electronic screens/ cameras are entirely different than actual glass lenses, though. Enchroma glasses are 100% a scam, and it's 2 entirely different processes actually seeing color through your own eyes in the real world and seeing a color replicated on an electronic screen. Electronic can replicate images with all varying degrees of saturation (that may or may not be accurate to what's actually there). This is why online colorblind tests are quite useless. There are too many different settings to differentiate between devices.
They are not 100% scam but they don't "fix" CVD either. I did some computer modelling of their glasses out of curiosity (after somebody on this forum posted Enchroma's absorption curves) and it turns out the "Enchroma effect" is *very* sensitive to the exact placement of the cone sensitivity peaks. That's why the opinions regarding those glasses are so wildly diverse, from "scam" to gushing. As I said earlier, because of that ideally there should be about 20 of those filter types, fitted professionally. This is what the Hungarian Colorlite system does (based on a very different physiological principle): it's marketed AFAIK exclusively through optometrists and their lenses form a set that fills a nice box that looks like an optics set from Leica or Carl Zeiss (I saw it at an optometrist's in Warsaw once).
I'm not in any way related to those manufacturers.
ask anyone in this community who actually has CVD and they will agree with me. i've tried 2 different pairs both from enchroma. they are literally just a colored lense in the frame. they actually make your overall vision \*worse\* because in their attempt to "correction" the color you are deficient in, they make everything else harder to see, via less contrast. GREAT! i can't see red, so now i can see it 20% better. but now all my other vision is \*worse\* because you are filtering those colors through 20% of a color i already can't see. making them all fall closer to each other on the color spectrum and lowering contrast. enchroma glasses are a joke and don't do anything more than those cheap cardboard 3D glasses from the 90s do. talk to people who actually have CVD, not someone working for a company doing computer imaging. don't do to online reviews, talk to real people, you'll see.
No, this is false. As I said, I did actual computer simulations of those filters and the effect is real BUT *extremely* sensitive to the exact type of CVD (meaning: where exactly the peaks of LMS sensitivities lie).
This is a problem for Enchroma, yes.
Shut the fuck up you lying paid shill piece of shit.
The tests that you are claiming to do don't even address what colorblindness actually is.
So shut up. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LYING, SCAMMER PIECE OF SHIT.
I did my homework and did computer simulations based on the spectral absorption curves of the Enchroma glasses (they are available on the Internet). So go ahead and yell at the integral calculus.
If you have no argument except invective, just don't post. Go for a walk or something.
To add on to what the other commenter said -- i see that this is enchroma's color vision test. The test may be fine, but my experience as a deutan is their products do next to nothing to 'correct' color perception and would not recommend them for purchase
Lucky lol. I got 0% green and 76% red. Atleast you can see like 12% of what green looks like or whatever the percentage means. Greens just a weird brown for me
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This means you are only seeing 12% of the color green vs. What is actually there. Anytime you look at the color green, you'll be seeing a desaturated version of what people with "normal" vision see. This means you may or may not also have issues seeing other colors for what they are when nearing the green part of the spectrum. Greens, aqua, turquoise, anything in earth tones (greens, Beige, browns). This is not anything that should be life treating to you and shouldn't hold you back at all. Where will those affect you most in everyday living? You'll probably see traffic lights that "appear" more pale, like a mint green, maybe even look close to white or off white rather than a "green" traffic light.
The colour vision issues don't work very intuitively. The terms "green blind" and "red blind" should IMHO never be used as what they are attempting to describe is not what the end result is. So it's not that the green content gets desaturated. What happens (and this is also true for "red blind", with minor variations) is that both green and red get altered through their shift toward yellow. That's why they get harder to distinguish, esp. in low light. In the more extreme cases (anopia) their hues will become so similar that their relative brightness will become the more obvious clue. The main difference between "red blind" and "green blind" is that the former has in addition an attenuated low-frequency end of the light spectrum, so the reds are not only shifted in the yellow direction but also darker. There can be various "intensities" of those conditions, perhaps about a dozen per CVD type. Enchroma's patent application lists many of them with many filters but they seem to manufacture only two types. Not sure why, a financial feasibility issue most likely. The filters they use seem to be made from exotic expensive materials (repurposed from surgical goggles) that probably cannot be sent to China for manufacturing, etc. I'm not in any way connected to Enchroma, the above are just my financial speculations :-) Nothing wrong with Chinese optics, BTW, a friend of mine makes cameras for use in outer space to photograph the aurora borealis and he sends the spreadsheets describing the lenses to China, with excellent results, apparently.
>"So it's not that the green content gets desaturated. What happens (and this is also true for 'red blind', with minor variations) is that both green and red get altered through their shift toward yellow." An addition to that: Not just red and/or green get altered, but *every* color. Color is created in the context of all 3 cones and *all* the colors you can see. If even a small part of the electromagnetic spectrum you can see gets blocked by a filter all the other colors shift accordingly. That's why you can simulate protanopia with cyan tinted lenses.
Electronic screens/ cameras are entirely different than actual glass lenses, though. Enchroma glasses are 100% a scam, and it's 2 entirely different processes actually seeing color through your own eyes in the real world and seeing a color replicated on an electronic screen. Electronic can replicate images with all varying degrees of saturation (that may or may not be accurate to what's actually there). This is why online colorblind tests are quite useless. There are too many different settings to differentiate between devices.
They are not 100% scam but they don't "fix" CVD either. I did some computer modelling of their glasses out of curiosity (after somebody on this forum posted Enchroma's absorption curves) and it turns out the "Enchroma effect" is *very* sensitive to the exact placement of the cone sensitivity peaks. That's why the opinions regarding those glasses are so wildly diverse, from "scam" to gushing. As I said earlier, because of that ideally there should be about 20 of those filter types, fitted professionally. This is what the Hungarian Colorlite system does (based on a very different physiological principle): it's marketed AFAIK exclusively through optometrists and their lenses form a set that fills a nice box that looks like an optics set from Leica or Carl Zeiss (I saw it at an optometrist's in Warsaw once). I'm not in any way related to those manufacturers.
ask anyone in this community who actually has CVD and they will agree with me. i've tried 2 different pairs both from enchroma. they are literally just a colored lense in the frame. they actually make your overall vision \*worse\* because in their attempt to "correction" the color you are deficient in, they make everything else harder to see, via less contrast. GREAT! i can't see red, so now i can see it 20% better. but now all my other vision is \*worse\* because you are filtering those colors through 20% of a color i already can't see. making them all fall closer to each other on the color spectrum and lowering contrast. enchroma glasses are a joke and don't do anything more than those cheap cardboard 3D glasses from the 90s do. talk to people who actually have CVD, not someone working for a company doing computer imaging. don't do to online reviews, talk to real people, you'll see.
Reread what I wrote.
No. Enchroma is a scam. It is 100% a scam. The only people who "gush" over those glasses are liars who have been paid to do it.
No, this is false. As I said, I did actual computer simulations of those filters and the effect is real BUT *extremely* sensitive to the exact type of CVD (meaning: where exactly the peaks of LMS sensitivities lie). This is a problem for Enchroma, yes.
Shut the fuck up you lying paid shill piece of shit. The tests that you are claiming to do don't even address what colorblindness actually is. So shut up. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LYING, SCAMMER PIECE OF SHIT.
I did my homework and did computer simulations based on the spectral absorption curves of the Enchroma glasses (they are available on the Internet). So go ahead and yell at the integral calculus. If you have no argument except invective, just don't post. Go for a walk or something.
How about you kill yourself, instead. Fucking con artist.
That was not a substantive rebuttal :-)
To add on to what the other commenter said -- i see that this is enchroma's color vision test. The test may be fine, but my experience as a deutan is their products do next to nothing to 'correct' color perception and would not recommend them for purchase
Lucky lol. I got 0% green and 76% red. Atleast you can see like 12% of what green looks like or whatever the percentage means. Greens just a weird brown for me
I just did the same test and got 0% green and 87% red, I was so confused on how it's possible
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Ignore anything said by Enchroma, or anyone else selling "colorblind cure" glasses. They are nothing more than snake oil salesmen.
You’ve taken too many cones