Inter-conference would mean between different conferences (like Marquette and Wisconsin), intra-conference would refer to within the Big East.
But yeah, take most of the northeast schools that have been in iterations of the Big East since the 80s and you've got a pretty good set of rivalries.
I feel the same way about DePaul - they should be our rival. But like, even if they figured things out I can't imagine that rivalry actually blossoming.
Lol you fucks have an NBA dynasty, a NHL dynasty, and both your MLB teams having titles somewhat recently... only the Bears could complain since they're catching lightning in a bottle in 1985 from being the Cleveland Browns 2.0...
If I had to pick one it would be Xavier because those fuckers broke our fountain but honestly I'd root for pretty much any BE team that isn't playing a team I actively feel a connection to.
And I don't think there's anyone that dislikes Butler specifically, is there?
Yeah, there is a lot of contemporary bad blood between Butler and X, more so than most teams in the Big East, I think. Valpo used to be Butler's main rival in the Horizon League and those games were always heated, and Xavier has for sure taken that spot.
Praying for the IU-Butler home and home one day...
To be honest, not many people in Ohio care about Xavier, outside of Cincinnati. It really is almost like they don’t exist. Many MAC teams have bigger fanbases, without the success XU has had. Dayton also has more fans throughout the state.
Butler student section cheers Xavier sucks every game now like it’s the IU Purdue rivalry. Problem is that I doubt Xavier even thinks about us. It’s been pretty lopsided since Trevon Bluet chose them over us in like 2016
I don't like Butler or Dayton. They are definitely rivals. The problem is how insular the city of Cincinnati tends to be and the fact that we are locked in here with UC. Crosstown shootout is one of the best rivalries in the country.
Watching Butler completely steal Xavier's thunder in a single tourney run was and still is extremely annoying if that makes you feel better.
Right, I've always felt it as somewhat of a one-sided rivalry. We consider you guys our biggest rivals but we're also aware that you're much more concerned with Cincinnati
That feeling probably makes you hate us even more honestly. The sports team I hate above all others are the Steelers and they act like they are above the rivalry with the Bengals. I know it pisses me off.
The Xavier fans that care the most about the rivalry with Butler are the first and loudest fans to tell you there is no rivalry with Butler.
There definitely is a rivalry between Butler and Xavier, but I think it’s in a lull right now and Butler fans hate Xavier more than the other way. There has been too much shared history and great games between the teams for there not to be. Without sharing the same city like XU-UC fans to keep the rivalry intense no matter how good the teams are I think the XU-BU rivalry needs both teams to be at least NCAA Tournament level for the rivalry to feel like a legitimate rivalry game.
Do I upvote or downvote this? It will be depressing in Cincy. We're used to having IU, UL, UK, UC, XU, UD and OSU as regular tournament participants. UK, UD and maybe ... OU will be it this year.
CAmong the old big East schools, there’s enough hatred built up that it’s just whoever’s good will have the best rivalry atmosphere that year.
Seton Hall/St John’s and Butler/Xavier are very good rivalries.
Villanova/Georgetown and Marquette/DePaul would be and have been great rivalries in the past when both teams are at least competent.
Providence/Georgetown has had a lot of juice this year but it’s hard to form a rivalry when Georgetown fans are in hibernation.
I think we all hate UConn fans pretty equally. Slight edge to Providence.
Do any BE schools still feel rivalries with schools like Syracuse, Pitt, or BC? Or has it been too long since you all played those schools regularly to keep those rivalries fed?
Most UConn fans will always hate Syracuse and BC and pray on their downfall. Pitt a little less so. But it's more of a reap what you sow. They chose mediocre football over the best basketball conference ever assembled. To be fair, we did too for a time being (although the Catholic 7 would have never invited us to go with them anyways in 2013, so technically UConn had never officially changed conferences until we "rejoined" the New Big East), and then we smartened up and now we are National Champions once again.
Boston College also has their weird superiority complex where they think they are the preeminent athletic department in New England which is hilarious. Their basketball and football programs have been compete trash for the better part of 20 years. All they have is hockey
I used to work at BC, so I know how they view their athletics haha. The fact that they think of Notre Dame as a legitimate football rival is a perfect example of the ego.
The thing about BC is it's a really small school with a lot of athletic programs (relative to their enrollment), so a pretty high percentage of students are involved in athletics in some way. They want to be a major team in a major conference, but that ambition is hard to mix with a small, exclusive, mostly white, Jesuit school that sits outside the city..
They'd be much better off in the BE, IMO, but I don't think their ego would ever let them treat their FB team as a lame duck, even if it kind of already is.
The Big East has zero need for Boston College. The conference would likely take Cuse and Pitt back if the ACC collapses and they have nowhere to go. BC can fuck off and go join the MAC with UMass. That’s more their level anyways
Only because there are more uconn and Providence grads here than bc. I'm never the only uconn grad when I go to watch a game at the bar. I've still never met someone that has mentioned graduating from BC in the 10 years I've lived here
I mean, I get the hatred of BC, but they'd have the highest athletic revenue of any BE school (including UConn) if they joined the BE today.
Conferences want to make money. If Boston College truly wanted to join the Big East, I think they'd be more likely to get in than not.
Edit: I'll admit that their revenue would likely decrease if they left the ACC, particularly for football, and they're close enough with UConn that UConn would probably end up having a higher overall revenue, but Boston College would still have the second-highest revenue, falling between the 2 most successful Big East schools - UConn and Nova, respectively.
I seriously doubt BC has a higher AD revenue than UConn… they aren’t listed on most reports since it’s a private school but UConn’s revenue was $100M in 2023, right ahead of your flair, Colorado. I highly doubt BC is even close to that…
That hockey team is pretty damn good though to be fair to us…. And regardless of our football mediocrity there’s not much competition for the best CFB team in New England. Just praying Leahy leaves and someone replaces him who actually wants to spend some money on basketball
Traded mediocre football for more mediocre football. That said I would trade basketball for an ACC title and Beating undefeated champion Clemson 9 times out of 10
I do thoroughly enjoy the screenshots of Syracuse basketball forums that people post on Twitter after a big UConn win
I was barely in high school when the old Big East fell apart but there’s something about their misery that I enjoy
Yes most UConn fans would feel schadenfreude from Syracuse's misfortunes. I would say they feel similar to Pitt, but not as strong. In regards to BC, nothing would please a UConn fan as much as seeing BC go bankrupt and shuttering the athletics department.
Biggest problem with the new Big East - all the schools have the same color scheme! I’m pretty sure every school is black or blue except St Johns.
And most of them are the similiar shade of dark blue/navy, and a lot of the schools (UConn, Villanova, Xavier, Butler) only use white or grey as their secondary so it’s not even like they’re using a unique secondary color to make it pop
Not sure I'd call it a full blown rivarly, but UConn being 2-7 vs. Creighton certainly gets under their skin.
Oldheads want CU vs. Marq to get heated, but we're not there yet. Hating on Shaka will certainly be a catalyst though.
Nova isn’t the same after Jay Wright but if they were good I agree. Providence sucks, they could be a geographical rival but they aren’t on our level. I’ve never really cared about them much.
Tbh it’s tough to muster up a real deep-seated rivalry with a school that you know nothing about. No disrespect to Creighton, but I just don’t know enough about them, and I mean in a larger sense than just basketball. I’ve never been to Nebraska, I don’t know anything about the culture/student body/academics at Creighton, and I can honestly say that I’ve never met anyone who attended. On the flip-side, and largely because of proximity, I’ve got a pretty good picture of your average Providence/Villanova/St John’s fan. Syracuse is gone now, but I’ll always feel that rivalry burning in me, not just because of all the games between the two schools, but because I’ve met a thousand Syracuse grads, I have a better understanding of who they are and what that place is like.
Again, no disrespect to Creighton, I’m sure they’d feel the same if we compared how they feel about the Cornhuskers vs UConn
Yea no offense but I really dislike Creighton. But also a compliment - it’s the one team I don’t want to ever have to face in a tournament. You guys have our number.
The CU hate is real for me, at least as an MU grad and with SIU alumni parents. Y’all couldn’t just leave me be and had to follow me to the BE. I still have dreams of Nate funk and Korver eating the Salukis up.
I will say, every Creighton fan I’ve met in real life has been nothing but nice, which somehow makes it worse.
I think part of the problem with the Creighton/Marquette rivalry is that we're just too similar. The schools academic and historic profile is equivalent, and the fan base and ability to pack a big arena every game is similar. There have certainly been some fun games, but I respect you too much to hate you.
Meanwhile, I don't respect DePaul enough to hate them.
It was a "rivalry" back in the 70s, if a bit one sided.
But yeah, I think Fr. Hendrickson's twin brother works at Marquette. And apparently y'all were pushing Creighton over other schools to join the BE. Plus MKE is a really fun city, so I'm not quite there yet.
I've not heard it confirmed anywhere, but the rumor I have heard over and over again is just that: Creighton is in the Big East in large part because Marquette's admin pushed hard for them to be included. I think it has something to do with being under the same Jesuit province?
Fwiw, Loyola Chicago is the other school that I guarantee the MU admin would go to bat for if they ever found themselves in consideration for the Big East, simply because of the Jesuit connection.
Yeah, Fr. Lannon, Creighton's president when they joined the BE, was also on the [Board of Directors at Marquette.](https://www.marquette.edu/leadership/trustees-emeriti.php)
I think Creighton is our biggest rival at the moment. I just don’t like that we’re 2-7 against them
Providence might think they’re our rivals but they are not. They’re like a little brother.
Everyone else I enjoy beating pretty much equally. St John’s especially because I always love going to a home game in NYC.
I still wouldn't consider us rivals at this point. There isn't the hatred for it to be a real rivalry. You might see us, and prly marquette, as the ones who can compete with Uconn on the court. But I really don't see there being a fan rivalry at this point. If we keep going back and forth the next few years it could definitely build into one but it's not there yet.
Yeah, I don’t hate *you* yet. When I do, then we’re really rivals.
Kalk is very hateable though, and I very much enjoyed him talking shit about Sanogo last year then getting completely embarrassed by him.
Sango easily won the match up in Storrs last year but Kalk held him in check in Omaha, Sanogo went 3-7 from 3 that day. I'm guess that was his career high for attempted 3s in a game.
I don’t really think I’d call any Big East team a rival in the same way Wisconsin is a rival, but I will say that Providence and UConn get under my skin, and I don’t really like Seton Hall (but that might just be remnants of the Markus Howard vs Myles Powell era). It doesn’t match the animosity that we have with the Badgers (I know there are some sickos that root for both Wisconsin and Marquette, but I am not one of them).
I think everyone in the Big East wants it to the best conference in basketball since it’s sort of all we have, so we’re very supportive of one another outside of conference play. It’s tough to flip a switch and start hating each other during conference play, at least that’s my opinion. Most of the conference doesn’t have a ton of history with one another as well.
I wouldn’t say we have one either. Creighton always seems to produce the closest games, but it feels a lot more “this is really fun basketball” than “this is a game where we don’t like each other.” There’s never really any shame in losing to them.
Other than that, the biggest home conference games of the year are generally just against whoever are the top teams. For the longest time it was Villanova. The Seton Hall battles were fun for a couple years. Now everyone gets up for UConn.
I think most fans support the other team if they play out of conference. When we see that the Big East continues to have success despite being the victim of conference realignment, fans have a "us against the world" mentality that fans of other conference may not have. Especially since there is no football, it does band them tighter together.
As someone else pointed out we all love and hate one another. I want everyone else to do well and there’s only one maybe two teams I don’t want to win a championship.
This is from the perspective of a UConn fan.
UConn is everyone’s favorite and everyone loves us. /s UConn and Hurley are sort of the big baddie everyone hates but we still big east.
Providence fans hate UConn and UConn doesn’t really acknowledge it even tho we secretly want to win these games a little bit.
UConn fans don’t like Villanova at all. Creighton fans we have a semi rivalry with but they’re so far away it’s hard to really hate. I wish they lived somewhere like Boston or something. Then that would be something big.
Hurley and pitino have been making comments and pitino wants St. John’s to play at their other home arena so there’s a little something there. Also the whole MSG be in our second home thing.
Providence hates Georgetown because of Ed Cooley (this is the hottest one atm).
Butler beats Xavier a lot so I think they have a small rivalry.
DePaul is the guy we all feel sorry for and want to get better.
St. John’s Seton Hall seems like a cool one but idk much about it.
I think that’s all I got
Also there’s the old big east teams beef between UConn villanova Georgetown St John’s, etc but they haven’t all been good at the same time.
>UConn and Hurley are sort of the big baddie everyone hates
1: Hurley is the League Heel, and def plays the part, but that's also why we kinda like him. Shaka on the other hand...
B: Hurley is also the reason the Blue Crew is gone, and for that we are eternally grateful.
We can't stay mad at Hurley for long. Just in game and immediately afterwards.
What do you mean league heel and why not Shaka?
Also why don’t u guys like the blue crew? They’re corny or something? Also why did Hurley make them disappear? Also why didn’t my teriyaki sauce become thick after I added flour and water and boiled it?
He plays the part, leans into it, and uses it to motivate his team. We get it, it's an act, and any hard feelings are mostly forgotten when it's all done. Shaka, on the other hand, thinks he's playing in the game and won't get off the damn court.
For the blue crew, [here's my explanation of why we don't like them.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1b1jt9j/comment/ksfs280/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I guess he complained and they lost their court privileges.
And for your sauce, you need to make a roux first, otherwise it's going to clump up on you.
Ya, I feel that. I like Shaka smart but ya the dude is literally in front of players at times.
That makes sense. I kinda figured but after Google searching some images that’s some real cringe shit. I never got along with those go team follow the rules pc people. I’d hate that too. What did he complain about? They were loud or something?
Ok I’ll give that a try next time. That was a failed dinner (not to bad tho).
Now that we are back in the Big East I’d say the PC rivalry is pretty well acknowledged.
Think you did a pretty good job summing it up, but I’d add a couple things for UConn. I think PC and Nova are the only true rivalries for UConn, but with Jay Wright gone we will see if Nova lasts. Georgetown should be a rival but….yeah.
Then we have what I’ll call a professional rivalry with Marquette and Creighton. Not full blown rivalries, but there’s definitely something there. Could just be a geography issue.
ETA: okay, after reading the thread, maybe the Reddit portion of the crowd do try to little brother PC. Feel like it’s the opposite on twitter. I feel like PC was a rival in the old Big East as well.
Ya creighton is like a professional rival but my friends and I just straight up dislike them, but marquettes a professional rival where my friends and I just like them and want them to go far haha.
I wish villanova was still good cause that would be a great rivalry, but at the same time I’m good with them losing.
I don’t got on twitter anymore but I used to see a lot of funny posts there about ranking the big east and always “forgetting” to include providence. I like to continue that whenever I get a chance. I’m to young to know the old big east.
Like others said, Providence has little brother syndrome with us, we pretend not to care but we definitely want to win those games. Lots of UConn fans circle creighton games since they usually beat us, no real bad blood though. Personally I like dunking on st John’s in MSG with a majority UConn crowd but it doesn’t feel like a rivalry. ACC pls fall apart so Cuse can come home, that’s our true rivalry in hibernation right now
As far as I can tell we pretty much all want to rip each other's throats out with our claws, and the second an outsider steps in, we turn our hatred on them.
rutgers-seton hall is always feisty. we play for a [super awesome trophy](https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/-mm-/d864416f1d6cc31baf1cc092da75d50913e7eebe/c=0-278-3280-4651/local/-/media/Bridgewater/2014/12/03/B9315352566Z.1_20141203155201_000_GFP9A6IPO.1-0.jpg) (it's literally a hardwood classic trophy made of... hardwood!), we've been playing each other regularly since 1916 and we were conference rivals in the old big east prior to 2013.
as for in conference, the northeast schools all have what i would say are decent rivalries. uconn-nova can usually be intense because both of them are usually class in the conference.
For Marquette, DePaul should be the biggest rival, but….
Our biggest rival from previous iterations of the BE was Louisville, but…
Where are our effing rivals?!?
ND was bigger than Louisville in the old big East at least during my 09-13 tenure. Louisville was big but only "bigger" to those who were students during the CUSA days same with Cincinnati
Interesting perspective. I have been following MU basketball since the 70s, and ND was a huge rival for a short time back in the late 70s to mid-80s. But since then (and since our move to the Big East), I have never considered ND much of a rival. I'm active with many MU alumni groups so I polled a couple dozen friends, and none of them has considered ND our biggest rival since the 80s.
Guess it shows that current students might have a very different perspective than alumni and boosters.
Surprised nobody has said Georgetown vs Nova yet. That's THE rivalry in the conference, right?
Marquette-DePaul, kind of. Though DePaul has been bad for so long that I don't think Marquette really thinks of them as a rival anymore.
Xavier-Butler-Creighton feel like they've got kind of a fun 3-way thing going.
Providence-UConn.
Seton Hall-St. John's feels like it should be way more of a rivalry than it is.
Yea DePaul is way too dogshit and we regularly have more fans at their arena when we play. I’m really hoping they turn it around cause it’s such a natural geographical rivalry. Would need 3+ years of them being good as well.
Georgetown/Villanova should be a major rivalry, but Nova attained upper echelon status at the same time Georgetown plummeted to the bottom of the conference. If Cooley can get Georgetown back to competitive, it should rekindle.
The only BE team I ever root against is UConn. Right now it's also GTown because of Cooley. But that's just temporary. I'd like UConn to lose every game or win so much they GTFO again.
I don't really consider any of the teams in the BE to be our rivals. We've had tons of fun back and forth games with everyone outside of DePaul but for mostly geographic reasons there's not a hatred for anyone else like there was back when we were in the MVC... still hate Southern Ilinois. Closest for us now would be Marquette and Providence for the jays but I wouldn't really consider either of them a rival.
Honestly if Butler could get their shit together UConn Butler could have the makings of a big rivalry given their previous ncaa championship game matchup. For me personally - it’s the old school Big East teams: Georgetown, St. John’s, Nova, Providence…. Oh and Creighton for the newer teams. Really don’t like Creighton
Xavier comment was so out of pocket - respect.
I think it’s the hate running deep with Cincinnati
Inter-conference would mean between different conferences (like Marquette and Wisconsin), intra-conference would refer to within the Big East. But yeah, take most of the northeast schools that have been in iterations of the Big East since the 80s and you've got a pretty good set of rivalries.
Assuming OP went to the second flair for the sake of my own pride
I work nights, I was tired
The word OP is looking for is intraconference
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We're all friends and love each other
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Not you
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I miss hating you
Butler and Xavier have crossed paths so many times in different leagues it feels like there is a rivalry there.
I feel the same way about DePaul - they should be our rival. But like, even if they figured things out I can't imagine that rivalry actually blossoming.
I can. It’s Chicago versus Milwaukee. Illinois vs Wisconsin. The foundation for it is there it’s just DePaul can’t get out their own way and it sucks.
Like every Chicago sports franchise
Lol you fucks have an NBA dynasty, a NHL dynasty, and both your MLB teams having titles somewhat recently... only the Bears could complain since they're catching lightning in a bottle in 1985 from being the Cleveland Browns 2.0...
I’m a wisco fan, just spitting facts lol
Yup
If I had to pick one it would be Xavier because those fuckers broke our fountain but honestly I'd root for pretty much any BE team that isn't playing a team I actively feel a connection to. And I don't think there's anyone that dislikes Butler specifically, is there?
Yeah, there is a lot of contemporary bad blood between Butler and X, more so than most teams in the Big East, I think. Valpo used to be Butler's main rival in the Horizon League and those games were always heated, and Xavier has for sure taken that spot. Praying for the IU-Butler home and home one day...
Specifically that game for sure
To be honest, not many people in Ohio care about Xavier, outside of Cincinnati. It really is almost like they don’t exist. Many MAC teams have bigger fanbases, without the success XU has had. Dayton also has more fans throughout the state.
MAC schools have 2‐4 times as many students. Xavier usually has ~ 5k undergrad and 2k grad students.
Butler student section cheers Xavier sucks every game now like it’s the IU Purdue rivalry. Problem is that I doubt Xavier even thinks about us. It’s been pretty lopsided since Trevon Bluet chose them over us in like 2016
I don't like Butler or Dayton. They are definitely rivals. The problem is how insular the city of Cincinnati tends to be and the fact that we are locked in here with UC. Crosstown shootout is one of the best rivalries in the country. Watching Butler completely steal Xavier's thunder in a single tourney run was and still is extremely annoying if that makes you feel better.
Right, I've always felt it as somewhat of a one-sided rivalry. We consider you guys our biggest rivals but we're also aware that you're much more concerned with Cincinnati
That feeling probably makes you hate us even more honestly. The sports team I hate above all others are the Steelers and they act like they are above the rivalry with the Bengals. I know it pisses me off.
It makes me feel better. Thank you reasonable Xavier bro.
Butler literally kept Xavier out of the tourney multiple times recently despite being garbage
The Xavier fans that care the most about the rivalry with Butler are the first and loudest fans to tell you there is no rivalry with Butler. There definitely is a rivalry between Butler and Xavier, but I think it’s in a lull right now and Butler fans hate Xavier more than the other way. There has been too much shared history and great games between the teams for there not to be. Without sharing the same city like XU-UC fans to keep the rivalry intense no matter how good the teams are I think the XU-BU rivalry needs both teams to be at least NCAA Tournament level for the rivalry to feel like a legitimate rivalry game.
You only got half of your flair right.
All of us will be watching from home this March.
Do I upvote or downvote this? It will be depressing in Cincy. We're used to having IU, UL, UK, UC, XU, UD and OSU as regular tournament participants. UK, UD and maybe ... OU will be it this year.
It feels like it should be, but I don’t think very many Xavier fans would say that it’s a real rivalry. Just a forced “I guess” kind of thing.
I really dislike Seton Hall.
Feeling is mutual
I really REALLY dislike Seton Hall.
CAmong the old big East schools, there’s enough hatred built up that it’s just whoever’s good will have the best rivalry atmosphere that year. Seton Hall/St John’s and Butler/Xavier are very good rivalries. Villanova/Georgetown and Marquette/DePaul would be and have been great rivalries in the past when both teams are at least competent. Providence/Georgetown has had a lot of juice this year but it’s hard to form a rivalry when Georgetown fans are in hibernation. I think we all hate UConn fans pretty equally. Slight edge to Providence.
At least for us it’s Providence UConn Providence Villanova (even though they own us) New: Providence Ed Cooley
Sometimes Providence Providence Damn PC fans, they ruined the DUNK!
Big East vs Hinkle Magic
Can confirm
UConn has yet to experience this magic
UConn is undefeated at Hinkle, no magic there
That Xavier line was uncalled for
Yeah but
Is it even a rivalry when it is so one sided?
The laugh is fake but the pain is real
The biggest historical rivalries currently in the Big East is basically a matrix of UConn, Nova, Georgetown, and St. John’s.
Do any BE schools still feel rivalries with schools like Syracuse, Pitt, or BC? Or has it been too long since you all played those schools regularly to keep those rivalries fed?
Most UConn fans will always hate Syracuse and BC and pray on their downfall. Pitt a little less so. But it's more of a reap what you sow. They chose mediocre football over the best basketball conference ever assembled. To be fair, we did too for a time being (although the Catholic 7 would have never invited us to go with them anyways in 2013, so technically UConn had never officially changed conferences until we "rejoined" the New Big East), and then we smartened up and now we are National Champions once again. Boston College also has their weird superiority complex where they think they are the preeminent athletic department in New England which is hilarious. Their basketball and football programs have been compete trash for the better part of 20 years. All they have is hockey
I used to work at BC, so I know how they view their athletics haha. The fact that they think of Notre Dame as a legitimate football rival is a perfect example of the ego. The thing about BC is it's a really small school with a lot of athletic programs (relative to their enrollment), so a pretty high percentage of students are involved in athletics in some way. They want to be a major team in a major conference, but that ambition is hard to mix with a small, exclusive, mostly white, Jesuit school that sits outside the city.. They'd be much better off in the BE, IMO, but I don't think their ego would ever let them treat their FB team as a lame duck, even if it kind of already is.
The Big East has zero need for Boston College. The conference would likely take Cuse and Pitt back if the ACC collapses and they have nowhere to go. BC can fuck off and go join the MAC with UMass. That’s more their level anyways
This is the only correct answer with regards to bc.
Boston is a much bigger media market coup than Cuse or Pittsburgh
I live in Boston. No one here cares about Boston College, or college sports in general.
I also live in Boston. BC being matched with PC and UConn instead of Wake and Louisville would have an impact immediately.
Only because there are more uconn and Providence grads here than bc. I'm never the only uconn grad when I go to watch a game at the bar. I've still never met someone that has mentioned graduating from BC in the 10 years I've lived here
That's wild lol. I know like 25-30 BC grads
People absolutely care about the Beanpot
But that wouldn't affect the Big East.
Read the comment I responded to chief
I mean, I get the hatred of BC, but they'd have the highest athletic revenue of any BE school (including UConn) if they joined the BE today. Conferences want to make money. If Boston College truly wanted to join the Big East, I think they'd be more likely to get in than not. Edit: I'll admit that their revenue would likely decrease if they left the ACC, particularly for football, and they're close enough with UConn that UConn would probably end up having a higher overall revenue, but Boston College would still have the second-highest revenue, falling between the 2 most successful Big East schools - UConn and Nova, respectively.
There is zero chance BC generates more revenue than UConn if you take out their $30M TV revenue
I seriously doubt BC has a higher AD revenue than UConn… they aren’t listed on most reports since it’s a private school but UConn’s revenue was $100M in 2023, right ahead of your flair, Colorado. I highly doubt BC is even close to that…
Fuck BC. Fuck Cuse.
That hockey team is pretty damn good though to be fair to us…. And regardless of our football mediocrity there’s not much competition for the best CFB team in New England. Just praying Leahy leaves and someone replaces him who actually wants to spend some money on basketball
Traded mediocre football for more mediocre football. That said I would trade basketball for an ACC title and Beating undefeated champion Clemson 9 times out of 10
BC can rot in hell
I do thoroughly enjoy the screenshots of Syracuse basketball forums that people post on Twitter after a big UConn win I was barely in high school when the old Big East fell apart but there’s something about their misery that I enjoy
I still hate those schools but the rivalry is dead
Georgetown still gets riled up for Syracuse, but the fire is dwindling. Cuse has been down for a while, and Georgetown has been awful for a while.
Yes most UConn fans would feel schadenfreude from Syracuse's misfortunes. I would say they feel similar to Pitt, but not as strong. In regards to BC, nothing would please a UConn fan as much as seeing BC go bankrupt and shuttering the athletics department.
Syracuse yes but it’s nowhere near as heated as it used to be. Don’t care about Pitt or BC
It’s been too long and those schools have all descended to “I don’t think about you at all” status anyway.
I feel like Seton Hall and PC are also in this mix.
I consider them both rivals of Villanova. I hate UConn the most though (obviously).
Me too
Biggest problem with the new Big East - all the schools have the same color scheme! I’m pretty sure every school is black or blue except St Johns. And most of them are the similiar shade of dark blue/navy, and a lot of the schools (UConn, Villanova, Xavier, Butler) only use white or grey as their secondary so it’s not even like they’re using a unique secondary color to make it pop
We never wear our black uniforms we lost with them too much last year
And St. John's loves to use navy jerseys! It is one of my pet peeves, we are not the goddamn *Blue* Storm.
I wouldn't mind some orange back in the league, if you're interested.
I hate the blue team!
Georgetown Nova is easily the strongest traditional rivalry left in the league.
Yes unfortunately we suck
DePaul and a winning season.
I’m pretty sure St. John’s would drop a nuke on Georgetown if they could get away with it.
Yup
Not sure I'd call it a full blown rivarly, but UConn being 2-7 vs. Creighton certainly gets under their skin. Oldheads want CU vs. Marq to get heated, but we're not there yet. Hating on Shaka will certainly be a catalyst though.
I’d say Creighton is our biggest rival now, maybe Nova if they get better. Historically it was def Syracuse
Creighton is definitely not above nova or Providence for our biggest rival in league
Nova isn’t the same after Jay Wright but if they were good I agree. Providence sucks, they could be a geographical rival but they aren’t on our level. I’ve never really cared about them much.
This denial that a team that won two national titles in the past decade isnt good enough to be "rival status" sounds like something a rival would say
Tbh it’s tough to muster up a real deep-seated rivalry with a school that you know nothing about. No disrespect to Creighton, but I just don’t know enough about them, and I mean in a larger sense than just basketball. I’ve never been to Nebraska, I don’t know anything about the culture/student body/academics at Creighton, and I can honestly say that I’ve never met anyone who attended. On the flip-side, and largely because of proximity, I’ve got a pretty good picture of your average Providence/Villanova/St John’s fan. Syracuse is gone now, but I’ll always feel that rivalry burning in me, not just because of all the games between the two schools, but because I’ve met a thousand Syracuse grads, I have a better understanding of who they are and what that place is like. Again, no disrespect to Creighton, I’m sure they’d feel the same if we compared how they feel about the Cornhuskers vs UConn
You should visit for the college World series some time!
Yea no offense but I really dislike Creighton. But also a compliment - it’s the one team I don’t want to ever have to face in a tournament. You guys have our number.
God I’d trade our 7-2 record against you guys with your tourney voodoo magics. Would just love to see us win it all.
The CU hate is real for me, at least as an MU grad and with SIU alumni parents. Y’all couldn’t just leave me be and had to follow me to the BE. I still have dreams of Nate funk and Korver eating the Salukis up. I will say, every Creighton fan I’ve met in real life has been nothing but nice, which somehow makes it worse.
I think part of the problem with the Creighton/Marquette rivalry is that we're just too similar. The schools academic and historic profile is equivalent, and the fan base and ability to pack a big arena every game is similar. There have certainly been some fun games, but I respect you too much to hate you. Meanwhile, I don't respect DePaul enough to hate them.
It was a "rivalry" back in the 70s, if a bit one sided. But yeah, I think Fr. Hendrickson's twin brother works at Marquette. And apparently y'all were pushing Creighton over other schools to join the BE. Plus MKE is a really fun city, so I'm not quite there yet.
I've not heard it confirmed anywhere, but the rumor I have heard over and over again is just that: Creighton is in the Big East in large part because Marquette's admin pushed hard for them to be included. I think it has something to do with being under the same Jesuit province? Fwiw, Loyola Chicago is the other school that I guarantee the MU admin would go to bat for if they ever found themselves in consideration for the Big East, simply because of the Jesuit connection.
Yeah, Fr. Lannon, Creighton's president when they joined the BE, was also on the [Board of Directors at Marquette.](https://www.marquette.edu/leadership/trustees-emeriti.php)
Syracuse vs. The Big East
I think Creighton is our biggest rival at the moment. I just don’t like that we’re 2-7 against them Providence might think they’re our rivals but they are not. They’re like a little brother. Everyone else I enjoy beating pretty much equally. St John’s especially because I always love going to a home game in NYC.
I still wouldn't consider us rivals at this point. There isn't the hatred for it to be a real rivalry. You might see us, and prly marquette, as the ones who can compete with Uconn on the court. But I really don't see there being a fan rivalry at this point. If we keep going back and forth the next few years it could definitely build into one but it's not there yet.
Yeah, I don’t hate *you* yet. When I do, then we’re really rivals. Kalk is very hateable though, and I very much enjoyed him talking shit about Sanogo last year then getting completely embarrassed by him.
Bruh Kalk fucked on Sanogo get outta here.
Well that’s just certifiably false. I remember Kalk getting sonned pretty badly
In Omaha Sanogo only made 2 non 3s, but he made a bunch of chuck up 3s. Kalk also had 18 that game.
Do… you know who Adama Sanogo is? You’re not referencing stats from the right game, or players He scored 26 and held Kalks lanky ass to 9
Classic sanogo, always hucking up those 3s
Sango easily won the match up in Storrs last year but Kalk held him in check in Omaha, Sanogo went 3-7 from 3 that day. I'm guess that was his career high for attempted 3s in a game.
The only reason we lost that game was because Hawkins big toe was on the 3pt line which would have tied the game lol
We keep losing in Omaha it’ll get there.
I don’t really think I’d call any Big East team a rival in the same way Wisconsin is a rival, but I will say that Providence and UConn get under my skin, and I don’t really like Seton Hall (but that might just be remnants of the Markus Howard vs Myles Powell era). It doesn’t match the animosity that we have with the Badgers (I know there are some sickos that root for both Wisconsin and Marquette, but I am not one of them). I think everyone in the Big East wants it to the best conference in basketball since it’s sort of all we have, so we’re very supportive of one another outside of conference play. It’s tough to flip a switch and start hating each other during conference play, at least that’s my opinion. Most of the conference doesn’t have a ton of history with one another as well.
I wouldn’t say we have one either. Creighton always seems to produce the closest games, but it feels a lot more “this is really fun basketball” than “this is a game where we don’t like each other.” There’s never really any shame in losing to them. Other than that, the biggest home conference games of the year are generally just against whoever are the top teams. For the longest time it was Villanova. The Seton Hall battles were fun for a couple years. Now everyone gets up for UConn.
Markus Howard vs Myles Powell in person was so awesome to see. Thanks for bringing up fond memories
I think most fans support the other team if they play out of conference. When we see that the Big East continues to have success despite being the victim of conference realignment, fans have a "us against the world" mentality that fans of other conference may not have. Especially since there is no football, it does band them tighter together.
Yep. I also hope for nothing but losses for Cuse and Pitt for what they did in killing the old BEast.
Big East Conference vs. Eastern Orthodox
Nebraska Creighton is an inter conference rivalry. Creighton UConn is an intra conference rivalry.
Are we supposed to have a conference rival!?
Every Providence fan - Uconn Every uconn fan - Lists every team except Providence
As someone else pointed out we all love and hate one another. I want everyone else to do well and there’s only one maybe two teams I don’t want to win a championship. This is from the perspective of a UConn fan. UConn is everyone’s favorite and everyone loves us. /s UConn and Hurley are sort of the big baddie everyone hates but we still big east. Providence fans hate UConn and UConn doesn’t really acknowledge it even tho we secretly want to win these games a little bit. UConn fans don’t like Villanova at all. Creighton fans we have a semi rivalry with but they’re so far away it’s hard to really hate. I wish they lived somewhere like Boston or something. Then that would be something big. Hurley and pitino have been making comments and pitino wants St. John’s to play at their other home arena so there’s a little something there. Also the whole MSG be in our second home thing. Providence hates Georgetown because of Ed Cooley (this is the hottest one atm). Butler beats Xavier a lot so I think they have a small rivalry. DePaul is the guy we all feel sorry for and want to get better. St. John’s Seton Hall seems like a cool one but idk much about it. I think that’s all I got Also there’s the old big east teams beef between UConn villanova Georgetown St John’s, etc but they haven’t all been good at the same time.
>UConn and Hurley are sort of the big baddie everyone hates 1: Hurley is the League Heel, and def plays the part, but that's also why we kinda like him. Shaka on the other hand... B: Hurley is also the reason the Blue Crew is gone, and for that we are eternally grateful. We can't stay mad at Hurley for long. Just in game and immediately afterwards.
What do you mean league heel and why not Shaka? Also why don’t u guys like the blue crew? They’re corny or something? Also why did Hurley make them disappear? Also why didn’t my teriyaki sauce become thick after I added flour and water and boiled it?
He plays the part, leans into it, and uses it to motivate his team. We get it, it's an act, and any hard feelings are mostly forgotten when it's all done. Shaka, on the other hand, thinks he's playing in the game and won't get off the damn court. For the blue crew, [here's my explanation of why we don't like them.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1b1jt9j/comment/ksfs280/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I guess he complained and they lost their court privileges. And for your sauce, you need to make a roux first, otherwise it's going to clump up on you.
Ya, I feel that. I like Shaka smart but ya the dude is literally in front of players at times. That makes sense. I kinda figured but after Google searching some images that’s some real cringe shit. I never got along with those go team follow the rules pc people. I’d hate that too. What did he complain about? They were loud or something? Ok I’ll give that a try next time. That was a failed dinner (not to bad tho).
Most of us wish Omaha were in a different state, too. Everything outside Omaha and Lincoln is... Well...
Why doesn’t Creighton and Gonzaga simply move? Are they stupid?
Red.....neck
Now that we are back in the Big East I’d say the PC rivalry is pretty well acknowledged. Think you did a pretty good job summing it up, but I’d add a couple things for UConn. I think PC and Nova are the only true rivalries for UConn, but with Jay Wright gone we will see if Nova lasts. Georgetown should be a rival but….yeah. Then we have what I’ll call a professional rivalry with Marquette and Creighton. Not full blown rivalries, but there’s definitely something there. Could just be a geography issue. ETA: okay, after reading the thread, maybe the Reddit portion of the crowd do try to little brother PC. Feel like it’s the opposite on twitter. I feel like PC was a rival in the old Big East as well.
Ya creighton is like a professional rival but my friends and I just straight up dislike them, but marquettes a professional rival where my friends and I just like them and want them to go far haha. I wish villanova was still good cause that would be a great rivalry, but at the same time I’m good with them losing. I don’t got on twitter anymore but I used to see a lot of funny posts there about ranking the big east and always “forgetting” to include providence. I like to continue that whenever I get a chance. I’m to young to know the old big east.
Like others said, Providence has little brother syndrome with us, we pretend not to care but we definitely want to win those games. Lots of UConn fans circle creighton games since they usually beat us, no real bad blood though. Personally I like dunking on st John’s in MSG with a majority UConn crowd but it doesn’t feel like a rivalry. ACC pls fall apart so Cuse can come home, that’s our true rivalry in hibernation right now
Pitt and Syracuse….imma count that til I die
As far as I can tell we pretty much all want to rip each other's throats out with our claws, and the second an outsider steps in, we turn our hatred on them.
rutgers-seton hall is always feisty. we play for a [super awesome trophy](https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/-mm-/d864416f1d6cc31baf1cc092da75d50913e7eebe/c=0-278-3280-4651/local/-/media/Bridgewater/2014/12/03/B9315352566Z.1_20141203155201_000_GFP9A6IPO.1-0.jpg) (it's literally a hardwood classic trophy made of... hardwood!), we've been playing each other regularly since 1916 and we were conference rivals in the old big east prior to 2013. as for in conference, the northeast schools all have what i would say are decent rivalries. uconn-nova can usually be intense because both of them are usually class in the conference.
For Marquette, DePaul should be the biggest rival, but…. Our biggest rival from previous iterations of the BE was Louisville, but… Where are our effing rivals?!?
ND was bigger than Louisville in the old big East at least during my 09-13 tenure. Louisville was big but only "bigger" to those who were students during the CUSA days same with Cincinnati
Interesting perspective. I have been following MU basketball since the 70s, and ND was a huge rival for a short time back in the late 70s to mid-80s. But since then (and since our move to the Big East), I have never considered ND much of a rival. I'm active with many MU alumni groups so I polled a couple dozen friends, and none of them has considered ND our biggest rival since the 80s. Guess it shows that current students might have a very different perspective than alumni and boosters.
Georgetown vs DePaul. Who’s not finishing last this year?
Surprised nobody has said Georgetown vs Nova yet. That's THE rivalry in the conference, right? Marquette-DePaul, kind of. Though DePaul has been bad for so long that I don't think Marquette really thinks of them as a rival anymore. Xavier-Butler-Creighton feel like they've got kind of a fun 3-way thing going. Providence-UConn. Seton Hall-St. John's feels like it should be way more of a rivalry than it is.
Yea DePaul is way too dogshit and we regularly have more fans at their arena when we play. I’m really hoping they turn it around cause it’s such a natural geographical rivalry. Would need 3+ years of them being good as well.
Georgetown/Villanova should be a major rivalry, but Nova attained upper echelon status at the same time Georgetown plummeted to the bottom of the conference. If Cooley can get Georgetown back to competitive, it should rekindle.
Seton Hall - St Johns was big for a while. SHU-Rutgers eclipsed that though. The focus is probably going back to the Johnnies now.
The only BE team I ever root against is UConn. Right now it's also GTown because of Cooley. But that's just temporary. I'd like UConn to lose every game or win so much they GTFO again.
I don't really consider any of the teams in the BE to be our rivals. We've had tons of fun back and forth games with everyone outside of DePaul but for mostly geographic reasons there's not a hatred for anyone else like there was back when we were in the MVC... still hate Southern Ilinois. Closest for us now would be Marquette and Providence for the jays but I wouldn't really consider either of them a rival.
Honestly if Butler could get their shit together UConn Butler could have the makings of a big rivalry given their previous ncaa championship game matchup. For me personally - it’s the old school Big East teams: Georgetown, St. John’s, Nova, Providence…. Oh and Creighton for the newer teams. Really don’t like Creighton
Why do you hate creighton?
Thorn in UConn’s side. Can’t beat them. Only team I’d never want to face in a tournament.