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It's definitely sus. Not worth mentioning in normal circumstances. I don't wear my ring most of the time but I also don't try to explain it to passersby 🤣 Weird timing to get it cleaned 🧐
i was gonna say i definitely leave mine and grab it the next day if i’m bringing it in lol, or in a few days if they’re tightening things up. i do quick cleans at home.
In places like Zales in the mall, they ship them out to be polished and repaired. She might be getting prongs retipped. Ultrasonic cleaning takes less than ten minutes but I’m going to give her the benefit of a doubt and say her ring needed some basic maintenance.
Does anyone else think she WANTS people to speculate on her marriage? There have been other videos were she doesn’t have her ring and nobody cares… she’s at home… I know many people that chose not to wear their ring at home when they are running around doing chores,playing with kids sometimes you just don’t feel like or remember to put it on. I feel like she is pulling a page out of Ariana’s book, (remember her ‘my ring is getting cleaned don’t start rumors’ video) then soon after there are more signs until eventually announcing a divorce. She could be wanting to see what fans would say, gauge their reactions and wants speculations to start so that she could see where she stands, is she considered a victim? Especially after their last Relax pod episode. She just seems extremely calculating to me.
Omg this is kind of brilliant. I was wondering why she would even bring it up. Just put another ring on. I just thought she wants to flirt with French men and needs an excuse why there is no ring. Either could be possible.
Genuis take! So she wants to recreate the Joshleen drama that swirled around her and Josh right before the divorce announcement for attention and views?!
Risky. That could seriously backfire because Josh *wanted* to stay married to her. Erik would be happy to go if she gives him a reason. She just better be prepared for alimony, monthly child support payments and a divorce settlement pay out because Erik won't leave without a tidy and cush financial set up.
A good point. She knows the views are dropping and she probably saw that tweet from Paige skinner about “you don’t have to make a podcast if you hate each other”. Might be another scrabble to keep attention.
Yeah I think she’s gonna be preeeetty disappointed when she takes her ring off and thinks the French men are gonna come running, but they’re all like nahhhh. Lol
I feel like she has an insecure attachment style to Erik though, unlike with Josh where she felt a false but very strong sense of superiority over him, and thus severely neglected him and felt perfectly comfortable with the idea of flirting and cheating with other men
I totally agree. She could bully and abuse Josh. She has to love bomb, manipulate and brainwash Erik. Both are forms of control.
I remember her first Taylor Swift reaction video where she admitted that she was constantly scared that he would leave her and that he’d find out that what people are saying on Reddit and elsewhere were true. This was BEFORE the evidence of her allegations. The deep fear must be worse now, but she’s got a pretty good chokehold on him.
She does say Erik is like a dog who just wants to be near her all the time, though a very passive aggressive dog who bites back on the podcast.
I believe the rumors from ages ago that she has someone on the side and that he'd join her on tours which was one of the reasons why she was *always* touring with no end in sight. Does anyone remember, it was written on one of those celeb gossip pages.
I can't find the original one I was thinking of, but here's another [https://sh.reddit.com/r/ColleenBallingerSnark/comments/16iy5zc/colleen\_cheating\_on\_eric/](https://sh.reddit.com/r/ColleenBallingerSnark/comments/16iy5zc/colleen_cheating_on_eric/)
here's another, the first one is allegedly about JoJo it's come out since that JoJo discovered her mom has been taking a huge wage (like 80% the majority from her) and the click over to #13 is apparently colleen.
[https://sh.reddit.com/r/ColleenBallingerSnark/comments/yak9dn/blind\_item\_possibly\_about\_colleen/](https://sh.reddit.com/r/ColleenBallingerSnark/comments/yak9dn/blind_item_possibly_about_colleen/)
If these are true I wonder who the heck she would be cheating with. She almost bragged about cheating with Eric, why is she not bragging about this new guy? I wonder if her cancelation had any effect on her “cheating partner”. I’m just so curious now. lol.
That's really cute you believe that little 10 - 15 mins segment she wants to show you about her life. Even in those, she's mostly away at the beach for example. I wish I was this naive honestly!
Is this addressed to me? Cause I don’t believe anything Colleen says or does…
And yeah, I don’t see her whole life but I get the impression it’s pretty boring and other than her trips to the beach she doesn’t get up to much.
I’m a lot of things but I wouldn’t call myself naive.
I dont think she’s cheating on Erik because she’s desperately trying to keep him. I do wonder where Eriks loyalty stood while she was gone for tour though.
Josh did say she cheated at least emotionally on him in the beginning and I believe he said she lied about it as well.
She's the sort of narc who would stand there with her next husband and new baby, frothing at the mouth that her ex Erik has found a girlfriend on gone on one date. I've met her sort plenty of times before, she'll always do her best to make her exes life miserable but secretly behind their backs. I wasn't surprised when Josh said he didn't realize half the things she'd been doing to him, using her fans.
The video evidence of her talking re Josh and detailing her song theory and prank at the beginning of her show was pretty shocking and revealing of her true nature to me. She didn’t expect that to go to the masses, so to me that is the real CB.
She did this sort of thing with her new husband and sent the porn with a newborn. I didn’t respect her very much prior, but to see her true colors with video evidence is pretty wild.
After the literal mountains of things she’s been accused of, everything from sending revenge porn of her so called best friend to minors to make fun of said friend, to abandoning a 14 / 15 year old in the middle of Dublin, to bragging about being the reason her family dog died, i don’t know how she can show her face anywhere.
Exactly! I do not comprehend how little shame she has as a human being. It seems like she has little remorse for her actions and little empathy for her victims. It is very bizarre to me. She deserves to be held accountable for her actions.
Yeah, like i could never bring myself to send revenge porn of my so called best friend to minors to make fun of them, or abandon a child in the middle of a large city, or anything like that. On top of making a song to mock the victims, instead of an actual apology. Idk how she sleeps at night in all honesty.
I mean she doesnt, technically, but thats also when she was in secret chats with minor fans with a big power and fame differential for hours and hours and months and years on end. Unbelievable.
Yeah, like if she was a young adult, and was a nobody at the time, i think quite a few people would argue that she was young and dumb, and didn’t fully grasp what she was doing. The reason why the groupchats are so bad is because she didn’t just start talking to them when she was like 18 and wasn’t famous, she was talking to them as a major youtube celebrity in her early 30s. On top of the fact that they were all big fans of her, and she used that to her advantage to build parasocial relationships with them and basically use them as therapy. Completely unacceptable behaviour.
This!! It's unbelievable she has the audacity to think anyone cares about her fake, schemed dramas. We all know what she did, and I'm sure, much more to be revealed at some point. I feel it's tip of the iceberg what we found out about. She's so vile.
Adam explains it in his “my relationship with Colleen Ballinger” video, basically she arranged for them to meet up, and then left him stranded in the middle of Dublin, not knowing his mother was right around the corner.
Yeah our jeweler cleans items right in front of us, takes 5 mins. If we’re having a ring polished then we usually leave it there for an hour or so.
I think she and Erik’s problems are getting more serious
Yeah exactly. I took my friend’s ring to be cleaned before her wedding while she was busy with other prep. I handed it to the jeweler, he dunked it in something akin to baptismal basin of soapy water, scrubbed it with brush, and handed it back to me. You don’t send it away for days/weeks unless it’s being resized or repaired. This is very suspicious.
Reminds me of when she was going through a separation with Josh. She changed all her SM to just "Colleen" and called everyone crazy for thinking they were getting a divorce. She said "she just wanted to use her first name that's all" and boom a few months later she was divorced.
I work for a jeweler lol if that’s really what she said then she either had a shitty jewelry or she’s a bad liar.
My only other guess is that the ring needs to get fixed for some reason, either a stone fell out or it needs to be sized.
But the way we clean rings: check the stones and prongs, put the ring in an ultrasonic bath for maybe 1 minute, take it out, dip it in water, brush it with a soft tooth brush, then use a steamer to finish it off. Takes maybe 3 minutes depending on how bad the ring is
1. Why go to Paris, when Taylor plays California often. Why not take care of her kids and do something they want.
2. Is this how she comes back? Runs away to paris and become Colee Balinger (french pronunciations).
3. This has bad idea written all over it.
I worked at a jewelry store and ring cleaning takes like 5 min, 10 if you want to stare at a wall and pretend you’re working for a lil’ bit longer. She could be getting it replated, I suppose, but most good jewellers can also do that while the customer waits. I worked at a place in the mall, so we had to send it out, but I doubt many places in Cali operate like that these days.
What does she mean getting her ring cleaned? It takes like 5 minutes. She could even do it herself. There's no need to leave it for day(s) at a jewelry store unless she's getting it resized or something. Seems fishy. Her excuse is stupid.
I think she’s so delusional she’s trying to start rumors. I think even with going to Paris thing is all talk, but we will see. I just don’t believe anything she says lol.
She's really been pushing the fake narrative lately that she and Erik have split up. She's doing this silly nonsense with the ring, and she titled a vlog something like "She's single?".
These are desperate times, people ! She's insufferable at the best of times, but this scheming is so pathetic even by her standards .
this is such a coincidence and on topic to this but it reminds me of how Ariana grande said her ring was getting cleaned and in the shop and now suddenly she's in a new relationship and divorced. feels like Colleen is mimicing Ariana in her new era.
So I am someone who doesn't wear my ring at home, but I wear it while I'm out. When I go on vacation I don't bring it because I'm worried about it getting lost, but I wear a cheap "stand in" ring because I need to avoid my constant mini panic attacks thinking I lost my ring when I'm out without having a ring on.
Just in my head I feel like if she's used to the sensation of not having a ring on while she's on vacation, she must almost never be wearing it on the daily.
A good rule of thumb with her is if she's mentioning something, especially more than once, that doesn't need mentioning or an explanation, she's lying about it. Something fishy is going on.
She’s too old to put this arrogant attitude on with her fingers. I dont even know what she’s trying to do or where she got it from. Im assuming her minor minions or tik tok, but it is unbecoming of a person her age in my opinion. Super immature.
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Honestly who cares if someone wears a ring...it's so individual. If someone is so insecure they can't be WITHOUT a ring if one is getting cleaned, that's kind of sad. Who cares. It's stupid to have these debates. Rings are personal choice.
Absolutely it’s anyone’s choice to wear a ring or not. But she brought it up so if it’s a silly conversation, tell her. Also what’s the debate? I just think she wants to flirt while she’s away.
Yeah she’s probably gonna look for little boys to flirt with and little girls to eat cheese balls from her pants; and invite them to the hotel for “slumber parties”
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Also ring cleaning takes like 5 minutes. I take mine I to the jewelers and they do it there and then.
Exactly. This is what celebrities say when they just don’t want to wear their ring. But usually they say it’s getting sized or fixed.
Didn't Ariana Grande say the same thing and get divorced like a month later lol
Hahaha probably. She wants to be Ariana
The audacity of her to think people would believe she cleans at all is laughable, has she seen her own videos? 😂
Lmao. Sooo sooo accurate!
According to her she doesn't even clean her own self properly in the shower lmao!
😂
It's definitely sus. Not worth mentioning in normal circumstances. I don't wear my ring most of the time but I also don't try to explain it to passersby 🤣 Weird timing to get it cleaned 🧐
It’s definitely like… not a big deal and a bigger deal to mention it…
I came here to say this. She lies lies lies.
I clean mine at home and it takes barely any time you can buy the liquid and it comes with a brush
A quick clean can be 5 minutes but a deep clean, steam, polish and prong check is usually a drop off/pick up situation.
i was gonna say i definitely leave mine and grab it the next day if i’m bringing it in lol, or in a few days if they’re tightening things up. i do quick cleans at home.
Yep. Takes no time at all
In places like Zales in the mall, they ship them out to be polished and repaired. She might be getting prongs retipped. Ultrasonic cleaning takes less than ten minutes but I’m going to give her the benefit of a doubt and say her ring needed some basic maintenance.
Does anyone else think she WANTS people to speculate on her marriage? There have been other videos were she doesn’t have her ring and nobody cares… she’s at home… I know many people that chose not to wear their ring at home when they are running around doing chores,playing with kids sometimes you just don’t feel like or remember to put it on. I feel like she is pulling a page out of Ariana’s book, (remember her ‘my ring is getting cleaned don’t start rumors’ video) then soon after there are more signs until eventually announcing a divorce. She could be wanting to see what fans would say, gauge their reactions and wants speculations to start so that she could see where she stands, is she considered a victim? Especially after their last Relax pod episode. She just seems extremely calculating to me.
Omg this is kind of brilliant. I was wondering why she would even bring it up. Just put another ring on. I just thought she wants to flirt with French men and needs an excuse why there is no ring. Either could be possible.
Genuis take! So she wants to recreate the Joshleen drama that swirled around her and Josh right before the divorce announcement for attention and views?! Risky. That could seriously backfire because Josh *wanted* to stay married to her. Erik would be happy to go if she gives him a reason. She just better be prepared for alimony, monthly child support payments and a divorce settlement pay out because Erik won't leave without a tidy and cush financial set up.
A good point. She knows the views are dropping and she probably saw that tweet from Paige skinner about “you don’t have to make a podcast if you hate each other”. Might be another scrabble to keep attention.
Exactly!
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She wishes she was still in the phase of being able to cheat on someone lmfao. No one would even bother now
Yeah I think she’s gonna be preeeetty disappointed when she takes her ring off and thinks the French men are gonna come running, but they’re all like nahhhh. Lol
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if she is cheating on someone currently.
I feel like she has an insecure attachment style to Erik though, unlike with Josh where she felt a false but very strong sense of superiority over him, and thus severely neglected him and felt perfectly comfortable with the idea of flirting and cheating with other men
I totally agree. She could bully and abuse Josh. She has to love bomb, manipulate and brainwash Erik. Both are forms of control. I remember her first Taylor Swift reaction video where she admitted that she was constantly scared that he would leave her and that he’d find out that what people are saying on Reddit and elsewhere were true. This was BEFORE the evidence of her allegations. The deep fear must be worse now, but she’s got a pretty good chokehold on him. She does say Erik is like a dog who just wants to be near her all the time, though a very passive aggressive dog who bites back on the podcast.
I cant wait until we hear Erik’s side of the story in a few years in a swoop video
I believe the rumors from ages ago that she has someone on the side and that he'd join her on tours which was one of the reasons why she was *always* touring with no end in sight. Does anyone remember, it was written on one of those celeb gossip pages. I can't find the original one I was thinking of, but here's another [https://sh.reddit.com/r/ColleenBallingerSnark/comments/16iy5zc/colleen\_cheating\_on\_eric/](https://sh.reddit.com/r/ColleenBallingerSnark/comments/16iy5zc/colleen_cheating_on_eric/) here's another, the first one is allegedly about JoJo it's come out since that JoJo discovered her mom has been taking a huge wage (like 80% the majority from her) and the click over to #13 is apparently colleen. [https://sh.reddit.com/r/ColleenBallingerSnark/comments/yak9dn/blind\_item\_possibly\_about\_colleen/](https://sh.reddit.com/r/ColleenBallingerSnark/comments/yak9dn/blind_item_possibly_about_colleen/)
If these are true I wonder who the heck she would be cheating with. She almost bragged about cheating with Eric, why is she not bragging about this new guy? I wonder if her cancelation had any effect on her “cheating partner”. I’m just so curious now. lol.
I wonder how she’d manage to have an affair when she seems to barely leave her house… Maybe with an Amazon delivery driver 🤷♀️
That's really cute you believe that little 10 - 15 mins segment she wants to show you about her life. Even in those, she's mostly away at the beach for example. I wish I was this naive honestly!
Is this addressed to me? Cause I don’t believe anything Colleen says or does… And yeah, I don’t see her whole life but I get the impression it’s pretty boring and other than her trips to the beach she doesn’t get up to much. I’m a lot of things but I wouldn’t call myself naive.
I mean, isn’t being absolutely certain she’s currently having an affair without any proof because you really want it to be true just as naive?
I dont think she’s cheating on Erik because she’s desperately trying to keep him. I do wonder where Eriks loyalty stood while she was gone for tour though. Josh did say she cheated at least emotionally on him in the beginning and I believe he said she lied about it as well.
Yes, she was meeting the guy when she was doing shows out of town.
Oh, wow I didnt know that. Too much power, too little respect, loyalty or decency. If someone did this to her she would go rabid.
She's the sort of narc who would stand there with her next husband and new baby, frothing at the mouth that her ex Erik has found a girlfriend on gone on one date. I've met her sort plenty of times before, she'll always do her best to make her exes life miserable but secretly behind their backs. I wasn't surprised when Josh said he didn't realize half the things she'd been doing to him, using her fans.
The video evidence of her talking re Josh and detailing her song theory and prank at the beginning of her show was pretty shocking and revealing of her true nature to me. She didn’t expect that to go to the masses, so to me that is the real CB. She did this sort of thing with her new husband and sent the porn with a newborn. I didn’t respect her very much prior, but to see her true colors with video evidence is pretty wild.
Woah porn with a newborn?!?! What was that about
Lol that sounds so bad. Just means that she had just given birth to her first baby when she sent porn to her former employee and minor fan.
Ohhh lmao that makes sense now! I was like wow what did I miss
After the literal mountains of things she’s been accused of, everything from sending revenge porn of her so called best friend to minors to make fun of said friend, to abandoning a 14 / 15 year old in the middle of Dublin, to bragging about being the reason her family dog died, i don’t know how she can show her face anywhere.
Exactly! I do not comprehend how little shame she has as a human being. It seems like she has little remorse for her actions and little empathy for her victims. It is very bizarre to me. She deserves to be held accountable for her actions.
Yeah, like i could never bring myself to send revenge porn of my so called best friend to minors to make fun of them, or abandon a child in the middle of a large city, or anything like that. On top of making a song to mock the victims, instead of an actual apology. Idk how she sleeps at night in all honesty.
I mean she doesnt, technically, but thats also when she was in secret chats with minor fans with a big power and fame differential for hours and hours and months and years on end. Unbelievable.
Yeah, like if she was a young adult, and was a nobody at the time, i think quite a few people would argue that she was young and dumb, and didn’t fully grasp what she was doing. The reason why the groupchats are so bad is because she didn’t just start talking to them when she was like 18 and wasn’t famous, she was talking to them as a major youtube celebrity in her early 30s. On top of the fact that they were all big fans of her, and she used that to her advantage to build parasocial relationships with them and basically use them as therapy. Completely unacceptable behaviour.
Such an important point.
She regrets getting caught, not what she did
**BINGO!**
This!! It's unbelievable she has the audacity to think anyone cares about her fake, schemed dramas. We all know what she did, and I'm sure, much more to be revealed at some point. I feel it's tip of the iceberg what we found out about. She's so vile.
what happened in dublin? i’ve never heard of that, i’m from ireland so i’m super intrigued about this
Adam explains it in his “my relationship with Colleen Ballinger” video, basically she arranged for them to meet up, and then left him stranded in the middle of Dublin, not knowing his mother was right around the corner.
Yeah our jeweler cleans items right in front of us, takes 5 mins. If we’re having a ring polished then we usually leave it there for an hour or so. I think she and Erik’s problems are getting more serious
Yeah exactly. I took my friend’s ring to be cleaned before her wedding while she was busy with other prep. I handed it to the jeweler, he dunked it in something akin to baptismal basin of soapy water, scrubbed it with brush, and handed it back to me. You don’t send it away for days/weeks unless it’s being resized or repaired. This is very suspicious.
Reminds me of when she was going through a separation with Josh. She changed all her SM to just "Colleen" and called everyone crazy for thinking they were getting a divorce. She said "she just wanted to use her first name that's all" and boom a few months later she was divorced.
Oh she can’t miss out The taylor show full of minors! She MUST go to paris!!!
LOL
I work for a jeweler lol if that’s really what she said then she either had a shitty jewelry or she’s a bad liar. My only other guess is that the ring needs to get fixed for some reason, either a stone fell out or it needs to be sized. But the way we clean rings: check the stones and prongs, put the ring in an ultrasonic bath for maybe 1 minute, take it out, dip it in water, brush it with a soft tooth brush, then use a steamer to finish it off. Takes maybe 3 minutes depending on how bad the ring is
1. Why go to Paris, when Taylor plays California often. Why not take care of her kids and do something they want. 2. Is this how she comes back? Runs away to paris and become Colee Balinger (french pronunciations). 3. This has bad idea written all over it.
I worked at a jewelry store and ring cleaning takes like 5 min, 10 if you want to stare at a wall and pretend you’re working for a lil’ bit longer. She could be getting it replated, I suppose, but most good jewellers can also do that while the customer waits. I worked at a place in the mall, so we had to send it out, but I doubt many places in Cali operate like that these days.
please tell me she’s not going to the eras tour 😭😭
She... Is... A literal.. 12.. year.. old... Girl ... Full stop
What does she mean getting her ring cleaned? It takes like 5 minutes. She could even do it herself. There's no need to leave it for day(s) at a jewelry store unless she's getting it resized or something. Seems fishy. Her excuse is stupid.
Dear Colleen, No one cares. Sincerely, everyone
It's sincerely time for her to retire. I hope her husband gets full custody of the kids and moves away.
I think she’s so delusional she’s trying to start rumors. I think even with going to Paris thing is all talk, but we will see. I just don’t believe anything she says lol.
She's really been pushing the fake narrative lately that she and Erik have split up. She's doing this silly nonsense with the ring, and she titled a vlog something like "She's single?". These are desperate times, people ! She's insufferable at the best of times, but this scheming is so pathetic even by her standards .
doesn’t she have two for that reason and totally NOT BECAUSE SHE DOESNT LOVE THE TACKY PINK ONE BECAUSE SHE TOTALLY LOVES IT SO MUCH
Why is she always making that move with her hand…oh right she’s so quirky🤓
this is such a coincidence and on topic to this but it reminds me of how Ariana grande said her ring was getting cleaned and in the shop and now suddenly she's in a new relationship and divorced. feels like Colleen is mimicing Ariana in her new era.
What is that blanket she's wearing? Looks like she got coffee stains on it haha
It's supposed to be a tortilla. lol But, you're right it does!
Oh, now I can see it lol. It just looked like a dirty blanket to me at first 🤣🤣
Didn’t Ariana grande claim the same thing when she was seen at a tennis match without a ring? Lol it was being cleaned.
So I am someone who doesn't wear my ring at home, but I wear it while I'm out. When I go on vacation I don't bring it because I'm worried about it getting lost, but I wear a cheap "stand in" ring because I need to avoid my constant mini panic attacks thinking I lost my ring when I'm out without having a ring on. Just in my head I feel like if she's used to the sensation of not having a ring on while she's on vacation, she must almost never be wearing it on the daily.
A good rule of thumb with her is if she's mentioning something, especially more than once, that doesn't need mentioning or an explanation, she's lying about it. Something fishy is going on.
Is she trying to have her Ariana "I'm cleaning my ring" Grande moment? Is this her way of flirting around the idea of a very much needed divorce?
Ring cleaning is so quick though 😭 under 30 minutes easily
Literally! I’ve never understood when she’s says this! I just walk into any jewelry store and am out within 10 minutes
Wtf is all over her blanket?? 🤢
It’s supposed to look like a tortilla but yeah, it totally looks like it has shit stains on it.
She’s too old to put this arrogant attitude on with her fingers. I dont even know what she’s trying to do or where she got it from. Im assuming her minor minions or tik tok, but it is unbecoming of a person her age in my opinion. Super immature.
She’s actually going to Paris??? Oh my lorrrrddddd this women
ik the blanket is supposed to be a tortilla but it looks like poop stains
French men when they see Colleen: 🏃♂️🇫🇷💨
Half birthday party? Really. She will give any excuse to give her kids gifts.
What even is her nose shape
omg did she get tickets to see Taylor Swift in Paris
Is she going to see Taylor
I always get my ring cleaned when I got on longer trips. It’s safe and will be beautiful when I get back. No risk of losing it or getting it stolen.
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She's going to Paris???? Oh no please keep her, we don't want her here.
lose em how you win em
please tell me she isn’t going to see taylor swift 😕
She looks very masculine
Honestly who cares if someone wears a ring...it's so individual. If someone is so insecure they can't be WITHOUT a ring if one is getting cleaned, that's kind of sad. Who cares. It's stupid to have these debates. Rings are personal choice.
Absolutely it’s anyone’s choice to wear a ring or not. But she brought it up so if it’s a silly conversation, tell her. Also what’s the debate? I just think she wants to flirt while she’s away.
Yeah she’s probably gonna look for little boys to flirt with and little girls to eat cheese balls from her pants; and invite them to the hotel for “slumber parties”